Hi April

you know I don't really know? Nathans brothers Jonathan 23 and Jamie 18 when
they hit puberty they just seemed to sailed through it apart from the obvious
signs like voice breaking and body hair it just gradual and then it was over.
Evan with my eldest daughter (Iv put all their photos in Nathan album) Jessica
was again gradual and uneventful she didn't have mood swings etc she just seem
to deal with all the changes. Rebecca my 11 year old Iv noticed has just started
puberty and I suspect I will have a few more dramas with her lol

All I have notice with Nathan is a change in his behaviour and his wellbeing he
seems so unhappy more aggressive crying more so angry at times no patients which
I suppose could be subtle symptoms of puberty

Talk to you again very soon take care April

San xx






--- In WSSA@yahoogroups.com, April Hooper <ahooburg79@...> wrote:
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> No problem Sandy, glad I could help! This is what this support group is here
for. Greta mentioned that many of the kids with weavers also have autistic
features, kids can have the autistic features (tendencies) and not be autistic,
they can be "autistic like." They will perform some tests and ask you questions,
I am happy you have called, sometimes its th first step that is so scary.
> Devon will be 8 in October, so would be in 2. Kids have to be 5 before
kindergarten starts, then they go to 1st, 2nd, and so on till they pass a tests
in 12th grade. This is new, I never had to pass a test to graduate. The kids are
usually 18 or 19 years old by then. They can then join the service, go to work
or college. This is so interesting for me, thanks for sharing!
> Has Nathan shown any signs of starting puberty? Devon did/was last summer, he
was only 6! It has since stopped completely, all pubic hair fell out and
everything! His bone age advanced by three years during his early puberty!!
Anyways, just thought I would ask. Talk to you later!
> April Hooper
> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Sandy <znandra40@...> wrote:
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> From: Sandy <znandra40@...>
> Subject: [WSSA] Re: Sandy
> To: WSSA@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 5:21 AM
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> Hi April
>
> I read the link you are right some very interesting facts! there was so many I
could relate too and apply to Nathan and his behaviour I don't know whether to
feel relieved or sad I suppose I feel a bit of both (I do have a tendency to
bury my head) anyway I rang the NSD Nurse and I was told that she is on annual
leave this week but she will ring me next week to arrange a home visit which is
great because although I don't really know what type of help we need I do
realize we need some sort of help...thanks for the support and encouragement
April!
>
> Getting back to the school thing lol…. If Devon is 7 I suppose he would be
in the same year as Nathan year 3 only if Devon is turning 8 before of September
this year if not he would be in year 2
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> Our kids start Nursery part time at 3 then at 4 they enter reception class
full time (8:45 - 15:00) then year 1 2 3 etc until year 7 when they enter
secondary/high school until year 11 (age 16) when they have the option to leave
school or stay on another year. If they choose to leave they then can either
start work or go to college or university (only if they are clever enough can
they attend university)
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> Anyway April Il keep you updated on how we get on Thanks again for all your
help… take care
>
> Sandy xx
>
> --- In WSSA@yahoogroups. com, April Hooper <ahooburg79@ ...> wrote:
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> > No problem Sandy. I'm glad I could help, anytime! We all have days like
this. It is nice to have parents to talk to about it, especially ones that can
actually relate!Yes the journal can be very helpful! It should state what was
going on right before the behavior, during and after, along with duration and
consequences. This way if there are any patterns or repetitive issues, I can see
it and help get it fixed.
> > Autism is so fascinating to me. http://www.nimh. nih.gov/health/
publications/ autism/nimhautis mspectrum. pdf
> > this link should help answer some of your questions. There are five
diagnosis that make up ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorders); autism, asperger
syndrome, rett syndrome, pervasive developmental delay and
> > childhood disintegrative disorder . This link has a description of them all.
If you have any more questions, ask!
> > LOL, I have no idea how to interpret your grades either...Devon is 7. He
started pre-school at 3.
> > Do you have special education, or is he normal functioning besides behavior?
I guess I am asking, what are his other delays besides behavior?
> > Talk with you soon!
> >
> > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Sandy <znandra40@ ..> wrote:
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> > From: Sandy <znandra40@ ..>
> > Subject: [WSSA] Re: Sandy
> > To: WSSA@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 6:09 PM
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> > Hi April...
> >
> > Thank you for your response to my email you always talk so much sense and I
appreciate your questions as they are so relevant...The FBA you speak of sounds
similar to the Journal we now part take in between the teachers and ourselves of
everything Nathan does at school and at home, which has helped a lot!
> >
> > You mentioned five disorders of the autistic spectrum? I don't know anything
about autism a part from the obvious traits that everyone knows about, you will
have to tell me more about that April please when you have time x
> >
> > I don't know what grade means April sorry lol but I can tell you Nathan is
now in year 3 (the year he makes his 1st Holy Communion)he has 3 more years in
primary school than at 11 yrs he will then go to secondary/high school
> >
> > Nathan did have extra support (a lady used to watch him at play/lunch times)
up until last year when the school claimed that they thought he didn't need it
any more which Paul and I disagreed with at the time but the community
paediatrician said she would like Nathan to have this support re established
plus within the class room also which I think can only benefit Nathan teachers
and all other kids in his class
> >
> > Thanks again April for your supporting words it helps so much I will keep
you updated
> >
> > Blessings to you and your family
> >
> > Sandy xxx
> >
> > --- In WSSA@yahoogroups. com, April Hooper <ahooburg79@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Sandy! Sorry things are going a little rough right now. I have been
there so many times with Devon it is not funny. We keep a daily log of his
behavior at school, called a FBA...if you would like more information,
ask... Anyways about the autistic diagnosis... schools get more help and
can have different guide lines if there is an autistic diagnosis. Although they
will get the same supports if the diagnosis is one of the autism spectrum
disorders (five disorders). Devon falls under the PDD-NOS (one of the autism
spectrum disorders) and health impaired category for special education
qualification.
> > > Is Nathan being mainstreamed (in an inclusive setting)? What grade? Does
he have a support aid all day, or does he need one?
> > > Sorry, I guess I am asking more questions than helping...
> > > Devon is in first grade, and this is his fifth year of public school
(three years pre-k, then K). Hope to hear from you soon!
> > > April
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> > > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Sandy <znandra40@ ..> wrote:
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> > > From: Sandy <znandra40@ ..>
> > > Subject: [WSSA] What should we do???
> > > To: WSSA@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 10:20 AM
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> > > I couple of weeks ago we received a phone call from Nathans school
reporting to us that something serious had happened in school involving Nathan!
As you can imagine we rushed to the school were we were told had `attacked a
little girl in his class! I was filled with horror at the mere thought of it,
luckily the little girl wasn't hurt thank god, but she was upset and crying! so
we took him home there and then…after sitting him down and taking
to him it turns out that he attacked her because she was just sitting in his
`chair'…no one at that point had realized that he had focused so
much on his chair (Nathan has many autistic traits)
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> > > The following day we had a meeting with his teacher and the special needs
teacher etc they reported that even if they move anything around in his class
room it upsets and unsettles him for a few days. To cut a long story short the
school is pushing us to get some sort of diagnosis for autism or aspersers in
relation to Nathans behaviour .
> > >
> > > A week later we had an appointment with community paediatrician and she
gave us 2 phone numbers to ring even though people who get these numbers usually
have a diagnosis (autistic nurse who can put us in touch with various services
that can help with this behaviour) now Iv had these numbers for 2 days and I
still haven't rang them yet… why? probably because I am frightened
of being rejected because Nathan hasn't a diagnosis for autism they may not help
us and if they don't…well I just don't know what we will do?
….I'm in such a confused state I didn't know how to react I didn't
know what to say to Nathan I even didn't know how to punish him as he does not
fully understand what he actually did! I think I need help and some
advise…if it was you what would you do in this situation?
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> > > Sandy xxx
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