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Re: Christian Milk

Kevyn I don't think you owe me an apology, but thank you none the less.
In the last incident they had to hold production till test results
came in but that was a very short space of time;they were mainly
tested for E.coli O157:H7 as was Wagon Creek Creamery; both dairies
were clean- their milk was not contaminated.
Grassfed cows have the wrong body ph to grow this strain of bacteria;
E. coli O157:H7 is found in the intestine,manure and wastewater runoff
of grain fed, confinement cows and factory farm operations. Salmonella
on eggs is a similar story as the bacteria is rarely found on
pastured eggs but can be rampant in filthy,overcrowded chicken houses..
But I feel everyone needs to stop talking about this particular
incident before this story gets out of hand and blows up into a real
problem which could jeopardize George's business. The truth is this
child's illness is not the reason for their decision, they simply need
the milk for cheese..and knowing George, I would not be surprised if
they start selling RM at the dairy a few weeks down the road.
kathy


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their cheese contracts

--- In WAPFOKCentral@yahoogroups.com, kevyn kennedy
<kevyn.kennedy@...> wrote:
>
> i don't know if i said this in my last post. but, i do not think
the milk caused this child's illness, i did not mean to slander or
implicate the Christians, and i feel sympathy for them because they
have had to go through this before and it is very painful for them. i
hope this does not cause the same kind of trouble they had before, the
incident you mentioned, where they had to stop their milk sales and
cheese production.
>
> when i said that other children were sick in the family and had
gotten sick as different times with no indication of salmonella - i
was trying to say that because of these facts i don't think the milk
(or any food) could have caused them all to get sick.
>
> again, please accept my apology and explanation.
>





Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:31 pm

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i don't know if you have heard or not, but george and lawanna are no longer going to be selling their milk. they will be using it for cheese only. the only...
kevyn holdcraft
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Nov 18, 2008
9:30 pm

Kevyn I cannot believe you have posted this- if this was a true salmonella outbreak caused by raw milk I promise you it would be all over the local news and...
gibbkathy
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Nov 20, 2008
4:24 am

kathy, i am so sorry and apologize that i did not make myself clear in my post. no, i did not intend to suggest that this was the fault of the milk or the...
kevyn kennedy
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Nov 20, 2008
8:37 pm

i don't know if i said this in my last post. but, i do not think the milk caused this child's illness, i did not mean to slander or implicate the Christians,...
kevyn kennedy
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Nov 20, 2008
8:47 pm

Kevyn I don't think you owe me an apology, but thank you none the less. In the last incident they had to hold production till test results came in but that was...
gibbkathy
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Nov 22, 2008
4:31 pm

I spoke with George at length today and I am happy to report he has changed his mind and will continue to sell milk at the Christian Dairy in Kingfisher. ...
gibbkathy
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Nov 23, 2008
2:18 am

YAY! ... From: gibbkathy To: WAPFOKCentral@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: [WAPFOKCentral] Re: Christian Milk I spoke with...
Stephanie Nichols
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Nov 23, 2008
2:55 pm

I wonder if anyone in Edmond would be interested in sharing the trips it takes to go get George's milk? If we took turns it wouldn't be such a long endeavor....
Stephanie Nichols
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Nov 23, 2008
3:01 pm

Stephanie Nichols, How many gallons and how often do you go? I go every 2 weeks for 7 gallons(I freeze a portion). I am presently unable to login to...
Guy Dickinson
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Nov 23, 2008
8:09 pm

Just to clear things up, here are our state statues concerning raw cow's milk..for those of you who have bought milk at John McDaniel's farm,or run out to...
gibbkathy
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Nov 24, 2008
10:35 pm

"We are lucky to have several excellent producers in the metro area" ???? Do tell???? I'd love a list of this plentiful bounty! I love George's milk, but it is...
Stephanie Nichols
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Nov 25, 2008
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Yes, I'd be interested in this information as well since I am in the South Central portion of the state and have not been able to find anyone within driving...
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Nov 25, 2008
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There is a dairy in Blanchard, one in Tecumseh,John McDaniel in the SE part of OKC behind Draper lake, and Randy porter who has a pickup point in N Nichold...
gibbkathy
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Nov 25, 2008
7:52 pm

I could attach the old producers list but none of the folks I mentioned here are on it. Bev, it sounds like you should be going out to John Mcdaniels or to...
gibbkathy
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Dec 4, 2008
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