Kevyn I cannot believe you have posted this- if this was a true
salmonella outbreak caused by raw milk I promise you it would be all
over the local news and the health dept would be involved.. This
family bought milk along with many other people on that day and the
only person confirmed with salmonella is this child; if George's milk
had salmonella more then one person would have been involved as his
milk is collected in a bulk tank holding several hundred gallons. I
feel for this mother and family, but it is simply not fair to spread
this gossip about the Christians and I am very sad for George that you
have shared this with the list.

Salmonella is usually passed through infected produce, factory raised
poultry and pasteurized milk. While it can be present in raw milk the
lacto bacilli tend to overwhelm it and clean milking practices are
your best guarantee of safety. George has run a Grade A dairy for over
30 years- he has a closed milking system with a refrigerated bulk tank
and his milk is routinely tested by the state.

About 2 years ago an OKC child was sicken with e-Coli and all the
dairy producers at the OSU farmers market were tested by the Health
dept. All the dairies were clean, the contamination was from spinich.
GEORGE"S MILK WAS NOT TO BLAME! It is unfortunate that people lose all
sense of reason the minute raw milk is mentioned and figure that must
be the cause when people get sick.

The Christians have a large commercial cheese account in the works
and they need their full milk production to meet this demand; this is
the real reason they are thinking about quitting raw milk sales.

Sally Fallon compiled a list of U.S. government documented outbreaks
of food-borne illness from Pasteurized milk for Ted Elkins, Deputy
Director for Maryland's Office of Food Protection and Consumer Health
Services.

Here is that list:

1945—1,492 cases for the year in the US
1945—1 outbreak, 300 cases in Phoenix, Arizona.
1945—Several outbreaks, 468 cases of gastroenteritis, 9 deaths, in
Great Bend, Kansas
1976—Outbreak of Yersinia enterocolitica in 36 children, 16 of whom
had appendectomies, due to pasteurized chocolate milk
1978—1 outbreak, 68 cases in Arizona
1982—over 17,000 cases of Yersinia enterocolitica in Memphis, TN
1982—172 cases, with over 100 hospitalized from a three-Southern-state
area.
1983—1 outbreak, 49 cases of Listeriosis in Massachusetts
1984—August, 1 outbreak S. typhimurium, approximately 200 cases, at
one plant in Melrose Park, IL
1984—November, 1 outbreak S. typhimurium, at same plant in Melrose
Park, IL
1985—March, 1 outbreak, 16,284 confirmed cases, at same plant in
Melrose Park, IL
1985—197,000 cases of antimicrobial-resistant Salmonella infections
from one dairy in California
1985—1,500+ cases, Salmonella culture confirmed, in Northern Illinois
1987—Massive outbreak of over 16,000 culture-confirmed cases of
antimicrobial-resistant Salmonella typhimurium traced to pasteurized
milk in Georgia
1993—2 outbreaks statewide, 28 cases Salmonella infection
1994—3 outbreaks, 105 cases, E. Coli & Listeria in California
1993-1994—outbreak of Salmonella enteritidis in over 200 due to
pasteurized ice cream in Minnesota, South Dakota and Wisconsin
1995—1 outbreak, 3 cases in California
1995—outbreak of Yersinia enterocolitica in 10 children, 3
hospitalized due to post-pasteurization contamination
1996—2 outbreaks Campylobactor and Salmonella, 48 cases in California
1997—2 outbreaks, 28 cases Salmonella in California

According to the Weston Price Foundation:

Pathogens Can Multiply in Pasteurized Milk and Other Foods but Not
in Raw Milk

Campylobacter in chilled raw milk (4o C):
Day 0 = 13,000,000/ml
Day 9 = less than 10/ml (1)

Campylobacter in body temperature raw milk (37o C):

Bovine strains decreased by 100 cells/ml in 48 hrs
Poultry strains decreased by 10,000 cells/ml in 48 hrs (2)

Note that the protective components work more quickly to reduce
levels of pathogens in warm milk than in chilled milk.

1. Applied and Environmental Microbiology, 1982;44(5):1154-58
2. Mikrobiyolji Bul,1987:21(3):200-5

And yet…

Raw milk is often blamed for causing infection with Listeria
Monocytogenes, a deadly food pathogen that can cause severe illness
and fetal death, premature birth or neonatal illness and death.

Let's look at the facts:

In a 2003 USDA/FDA report:

Deli meats caused 515 times more illness from listeria than raw milk
Pasteurized milk caused 29 times more illness from listeria than
raw milk

On a PER-SERVING BASIS, deli meats were TEN times more likely to
cause illness than raw milk.

FDA: "Raw milk is inherently dangerous and should not be consumed"

Where are the FDA's charges that deli meats are "inherently
dangerous and should not be consumed? Where is the FDA's exhortation
to "everyone charged with protecting the publish health" to "prevent
the sale of deli meats to consumers"?

In a response to a Freedom of Information request, the Centers for
Disease Control provided data on raw milk outbreaks 1993-2005—a
23-year period.



Since 1999:

40 million servings of Organic Pastures raw milk, not one reported
illness; in 1,300 tests, no human pathogens ever found in the milk, or
even in the manure on the farm.

19 recalls of pasteurized milk products during the same period.

KATHY GIBB
OKC WESTON A PRICE FOUNDATION CHAPTER LEADER
http://www.realmilk.com/




--- In WAPFOKCentral@yahoogroups.com, "kevyn holdcraft"
<kevyn.kennedy@...> wrote:
>
> i don't know if you have heard or not, but george and lawanna are no
longer going to be
> selling their milk. they will be using it for cheese only.
>
> the only details i know is that a milk customer with 7 children has
a child in the hospital with
> salmonella and called george to suggest that he have the dairy and
cows inspected.
> subsequently, several of her other children are now at home sick but
aren't in the hospital
> nor do they have salmonella (as far as i know) and they didn't get
sick at the same time.
>
> my friend told me that george is so worried that someone will get
ill that they just don't want
> to risk it anymore and will use their milk for cheese only. i think
a similar situation happened
> a couple of years ago, and they just don't want to go through this
again.
>
> i feel sad that this has happened.
>