This came thru from another WAPF chapter leader, I thought some on
this list would find it of interest. Much is not new to me..oh yes, I
would never get a flu shot either!!
kathy gibb

You should be able to get the MP3 file here, it is very big to mail
http://tinyurl.com/4vsmxk - click on "download the
podcast"immunologist whistleblower on vaccines - Bill & Melinda Gates
Founda

Posted by: "Suze Fisher" suzefisher@... suzefisher

Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:31 am (PDT)

Alex Jones did an incredible 2-hour interview Friday of a woman who was a
high up immunologist with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and who
also worked for the gov't and big Pharma. Some of what she says about what
is really going on in big pharma and at this purported humanitarian
organization is stuff we already know to some extent, but some of it I
wasn't aware of and is very disturbing.

Both she and a statistician recently left the Gates Foundation because
they
couldn't morally stomach what they were doing.

The very first thing she says when the interview opens is that she is not
suicidal and has never been. This is due to the fact, I believe, that many
scientists in the biotech field are winding up dead and the official story
is that they are suicides. As I understand it, these are people who "know
too much". I assume her saying she's not suicidal at the outset of the
interview also has to do with the fact that many whistleblowers end up
"committing suicide", or so we're told.

The interview is in MP3 format and here's where you can get it:

Source 1: http://www.infowars.com/ (right column "Today on the Alex Jones
Show" - click on listen now. I think it's live streaming because it
doesn't
begin at the beginning. This may not be available for a long time if
it gets
bumped by a newer interview.)

Source 2: http://tinyurl.com/46ht89 (this is a seven part Google video. It
probably cuts out some parts because each part appears to be 10 mins long
and the interview was around two hours.)

Source 3: http://www.infowars.com/listen.html (subscribe to podcast and
download Friday's show. It will no longer be available after 7 or so
tonight
because it will be replaced with Sunday's podcast.)

Source 4: Email me for an MP3 of the entire Friday radio show. It's 4
hours
long. You can skip ahead to the interview which begins at the 70 minute
point in the broadcast.

Here are some of the things this whistleblower reveals:

1. They were growing animal fetuses and possibly chimera fetuses alive in
tanks of fluid in a lab in DC 15 years ago in order to harvest
maturing eggs
so that they could figure out how to grow humans in tanks, outside the
womb.
The friend of a friend who worked with the Chinese doctor doing this said
the fetuses were gulping fluid which freaked her out. Additionally,
and that
they also worked on Chinese human fetuses because in China they can get
abortions up until delivery (or thereabouts) and they harvested the eggs
from these fetuses in their research on how to grow humans outside the
womb.
It was not clear whether the Chinese doctors in China who were providing
these fetuses were actually *harvesting* them for this research or whether
these almost born fetuses were being aborted for other reasons. I don't
think she said they were keeping them alive like the animal fetuses -
although that part wasn't entirely clear to me. The friend of a friend got
so freaked out about this she quit and went into real estate.

2. Big pharma uses third world women and children as guinea pigs to test
vaccines and drugs. They also now use human guinea pigs in Poland and
Checkloslovakia. Some of these are vaccines that had only previously been
tested on *worms* for instance.

3. They've had a lot of bad reactions to the new HPV vaccine - Gardasil -
including seizures and death. This whistleblower, Cynthia (not her real
name) recalls the case of a 12-yr-old girl who died from some blood
abnormality from it for instance.

4. She has witnessed doctors falsifying data, such as eliminating a
laundry
list of reports of adverse events. The particular doc she was referring to
in one instance got promoted after this.

5. They buy off third world villages with booze and free clinics and
such in
order to get their guinea pigs. In one instance, she mentions an event for
local leaders where the booze tab was $12,000! Often the people being
vaccinated don't understand what it is all about. They don't do long-term
follow-ups to see if there are adverse reactions. They just "show" to the
FDA, this vaccine is working on Poland and such and such a place and get
much quicker approval.

6. There are weird proteins being used in the vaccines as growth
mediums or
something - I don't remember the exact reason they are in there. They
don't
really know how this might affect people getting the vaccines.

7. Vaccine manufacturers go to hospitals and get the foreskins of
circumcised babies to grow the viruses on that will be in the vaccine.

8. One of her main points is that they are doing all kinds of things
without
sufficient data or long term studies to know what the results will be,
ramming it through approval processes by testing on unknowing,
impoverished
third world villages, fudging the results, then brainwashing the US
population to think they need this new vaccine.

9. She said "I am an immunologist and I would never get a flu shot!" She
said they are useless, which many of us already know. But this is
something
you might want to pass on to friends and family members who are
brainwashed
by big Pharma and their doctors to think they need it.

10. They are replacing mercury in vaccines with *aluminum*.

These are only some of the points that stuck with me the most. There's
a lot
more ground that she covers. Please forward this to any list or person you
think should know what's really going on in Big Pharma and what is
probably
going on in other powerful purported humanitarian organizations such
as the
Gates Foundation.

I think this will be of particular interest to vaccine-related email
lists,
even dog and cat ones as some of the same manufacturers make both
human and
pet vaccines.

There was another interview on earlier last week with a Dartmouth
professor
about fluoride in drinking water and how it was originally used as a
way to
hide materials from the Manhattan Project and how it wasn't actually just
fluoride but a larger molecule with all sorts of potentially toxic
stuff in
it and they just called it "fluoride". According to this prof, it's also
been found that the damage from lead is much worse wherever the water is
fluoridated.

Suze Fisher