Hi Vanessa,
You are most welcome!!!
Believe me, I understand what you mean about these sites…when I found the Sotos group 4 years ago…it was a lifeline. We had been to several doctors who never thought much of his size and b/c he was always healthy (only a few colds and a few ear infections) they were ready to just say “autism” as he has many autistic traits and that he is a “big boy”. We saw a neuropsychologist who suggested a genetics consult b/c he did not really believe my son was “autistic”, but could see the traits…he had the feeling there was something more going on with Kevin. Luckily for us, the geneticist we saw knows Dr. Schaefer personally and forwarded our stuff to him for review. He and she consulted and agreed upon a Sotos-like diagnosis. That description fits him to a T. I wear a size 8.5 to 9 in women’s shoes and I can squish my foot into his shoes now and he is 7. What a cutie…I went and looked at his pics! I will have to add a recent pic of Kevin.
Take care!
Pam J
-----Original Message-----
From: UndiagnosedOvergrowthSyndromes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:UndiagnosedOvergrowthSyndromes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Sent: Thursday,
November 16, 2006 5:47 PM
To: UndiagnosedOvergrowthSyndromes@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[UndiagnosedOvergrowthSyndromes] Re: Hello.
Thank you for responding so quickly!!
That clears up a lot actually. I believe that's
what my son may have. I don't believe he has classic Sotos either, as his
head is more large diameter-wise than tall (it's 3 cm larger at 18 months old
than his 38-year-old father's head!!), he's above the 100th percentile in
height, weight, and HC, and he had a normal brain scan. He is behind in
walking and talking and is very unsteady and has the downsloping eyes and cute
little button nose as well. I posted his picture up and he does have a
lot of the same characteristics as your son and the rest of the Sotos-like
kids' pics I have seen here and at the other Sotos groups. I'm so
glad groups like this exist. It makes this scary time a lot easier.
Thanks again. ![]()
--- In UndiagnosedOvergrow
>
> Hello!
>
>
>
> There are group of individuals who have many of the characteristics of
> Sotos, but may be missing some of the main criteria used in diagnosing
> Sotos, my son is one of them. He has many traits of Sotos, but does not
> have the classic facial appearance (tall narrow skull). He has many other
> characteristics such as birth length 23 inches, no speech till age 4, fine
> motor & coordination issues (getting better now) his head is 98
percentile
> and always has been (it was 1 inch smaller than mine at age 5), large
hands,
> feet, knees, his bone age was over 2 years advanced, down slanted eyes.I
> could go on and on. I snipped a section from the Sotos handbook for you to
> read.written by experts on Sotos Syndrome. Also, Sotos like kids tend to
be
> chunkier with more rounded faces from what I am told. My son did not
really
> have a prominent or pointed chin until he lost the baby chub on his face
at
> about age 4 or so.
>
>
>
> "The strict criteria proposed for a diagnosis of Sotos syndrome
requires at
> least three of the following: facial appearance consistent with the
> original reports; birth length above the 90th percentile, bone age above
the
> 90th percentile; and early verbal and motor delays. Many children have
> large heads, low tone and developmental delay, without the classic
> constellation which can be confidently called Sotos syndrome. Children who
> lack a number of these features are more properly classified as showing
> "Sotos-like" characteristics. Specialists do not yet know
whether these
> children are part of the spectrum of Sotos syndrome, or whether they
> represent variants or distinct conditions. For practical purposes, the
> medical, emotional, educational and behavioral needs are very similar.
> Maintaining a distinction will help researches define these conditions
more
> accurately and will prevent mistaken assumptions with regard to particular
> children. On the whole, our experience is that children with Sotos-like
> patterns may resolve their early tone and speech problems more completely
> than children with Classic Sotos syndrome."
>
>
>
> My son had 3 of the main criteria (birth length, bone age, early verbal
> delays), but did not have the exact facial appearance and his gross motor
> skills were not considered delayed.but after about 18 months you could see
> he was falling behind peers his age with coordination. Dr. Schaefer (USA
> expert on Sotos) diagnosed him with our geneticist as
"Sotos-like" after
> reviewing his medical/development
>
>
>
> Hope this clarified it for you a bit?
>
>
>
> It could be an as of yet unrecognized overgrowth syndrome too.
> Unfortunately this group is not very active. You might get more responses
> if you go the Sotos Yahoo group and ask there. There are people on that
> group who have kids with Classic Sotos, Sotos-like, Weavers, BWS and other
> syndromes. The group is for "overgrowth syndromes" not just
Sotos anymore.
> There is a genetic test for Sotos, but it is NOT 100% accurate. A
diagnosis
> can be made by clinical observation as well.looking at medical &
> developmental histories and your child's pictures at various ages and of
> course seeing your child in person. Our son was diagnosed without the
> genetic test.it did not exist when he was diagnosed.
>
>
>
> Take care!
>
> Pam :-)
>
> (Mom to Kevin age 7 Sotos-like)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UndiagnosedOvergrow
> [mailto:Undiagnosed
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:05 PM
> To: UndiagnosedOvergrow
> Subject: [UndiagnosedOvergro
>
>
>
> Hi. I joined this group because my son Michael has an as of yet
> undiagnosed overgrowth syndrome. The neurologist mentioned Sotos
> syndrome and he has a lot of the symptoms. He is due to see the
> geneticist in a month to find out for sure. Does anyone know how they
> diagnose this? I have noticed that my son looks an awful lot like some
> of the kids who have been diagnosed as being "Sotos-like"
> exactly does that mean? Could this possibly be a syndrome that hasn't
> been discovered yet? If anyone could give me any advice, I would be
> very grateful. I would like to go in to the geneticist's office with
> as much information as possible. Thanks. :)
>