hi - i have called about rice dream and they state all of their flavors are gluten free. i did wonder which milk they use if their rice milk has barley in it but even after i asked their customer service rep that they still said it was dairy and gluten free

I'm so sorry, but Rice Crispies has Barley Malt in it and that is gluten. But Trix, Dora the Explorer, Little Einsteins and Micky Mouse Clubhouse are supposedly okay.

---

From: USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Angela Lord
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:24 PM
To: USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [USASillyYaks] Re: Warning and complaint about Enjoy Life foods.

--- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, "Keith MacFarland"
<keith3196@...> wrote:
>
> I was at the store the other day and saw this really appetizing box
of
> Gluten Free cereal.. advertised as "Cinnamon Crunch granola" by
Enjoy
> Life foods. The picture looked great.. something from a textbook
> looking granola cereal.
>
> When I got the box home and opened it, it was half full, the product
> in half the box weighed in very heavy. In addition it was a very
dark
> brown, almost brownie in color - NOT LIKE THE PICTURE AT ALL. In
> addition it tasted horrible.. to say it was disgusting would be an
> understatement.. it did not get better with milk (which in my book
is
> what cereal should do), it was in crumbs and huge heavy chunks..
>
> I would highly NOT recommend this product, in fact, I am so pissed
at
> the obvious attempt at misleading advertising, which in my mind,
takes
> advantage of people who have been "longing" for replacement foods
for
> their restricted diets.
>
> I would not believe any of the pics on their products at all.. I
don't
> know if anyone else has had similar experiences with their products
or
> even positive ones.. but I felt it was my obligation to pass this
> review along so no one else throws away $4.59 on a pile of tasteless
> crumbs and mudballs.
>
> I have half a mind to report them to a consumer board.. I get so
angry
> when these mfgers take advantage of people who are desperate to find
> palatable foods...
>
> Keith (NJ)
>
Keith,
I feel your pain!! I got diagnosed 2 days ago with Celiac, but can't
meet with a dietician until July, so off to the health food store. I
also purchased the granola, mine was berry flavored. It looked alot
like the IAMS that I give to my Jack Russell. The texture was
horrible and there weren't any dried berries included. I am also
wondering why they need such a big box for such a small amount of
product...
I heard that we can eat rice crispies, and you can get a HUGE box for
half the cost, so SNAP CRACKLE POP!

I guess on the positive
side, for a baked good with no nuts, soy, eggs,
gluten, corn, or dairy, they weren't the worst thing
I've ever had.

---

I had to laugh when I read this. It's amazing what we will tolerate these days, isn't it.

Whenever I discover something that I think is great, because I can eat it, I tell my sister to taste it (she eats whatever she wants). Her standard response is "It has been a long time since you've had real cookies (or bread, or whatever), hasn't it? "

Bunnie

Angela,
Rice Krispies are NOT gf -- they have barley malt in them!  You will have to
find a gf version!
Otherwise, try Cocoa Pebbles and Fruity Pebbles :)
~Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Angela Lord

I heard that we can eat rice crispies, and you can get a HUGE box for
half the cost, so SNAP CRACKLE POP!

Angela-
   The information that you have posted about Rice Krispies is not
true. Kellog's Rice Krispies contain malt. Malt is from barley and
barley is not safe for the gluten free diet. Please be careful of the
information that you are posting. Someone can get very sick from mis-
info like this. Thanks.

-Jessica

--- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, "Angela Lord" <lordz1@...> wrote:
>
> --- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, "Keith MacFarland"
> <keith3196@> wrote:
> >
> > I was at the store the other day and saw this really appetizing
box
> of
> > Gluten Free cereal.. advertised as "Cinnamon Crunch granola" by
> Enjoy
> > Life foods. The picture looked great.. something from a textbook
> > looking granola cereal.
> >
> > When I got the box home and opened it, it was half full, the
product
> > in half the box weighed in very heavy. In addition it was a very
> dark
> > brown, almost brownie in color - NOT LIKE THE PICTURE AT ALL. In
> > addition it tasted horrible.. to say it was disgusting would be an
> > understatement.. it did not get better with milk (which in my
book
> is
> > what cereal should do), it was in crumbs and huge heavy chunks..
> >
> > I would highly NOT recommend this product, in fact, I am so
pissed
> at
> > the obvious attempt at misleading advertising, which in my mind,
> takes
> > advantage of people who have been "longing" for replacement foods
> for
> > their restricted diets.
> >
> > I would not believe any of the pics on their products at all.. I
> don't
> > know if anyone else has had similar experiences with their
products
> or
> > even positive ones.. but I felt it was my obligation to pass this
> > review along so no one else throws away $4.59 on a pile of
tasteless
> > crumbs and mudballs.
> >
> > I have half a mind to report them to a consumer board.. I get so
> angry
> > when these mfgers take advantage of people who are desperate to
find
> > palatable foods...
> >
> > Keith (NJ)
> >
> Keith,
> I feel your pain!! I got diagnosed 2 days ago with Celiac, but
can't
> meet with a dietician until July, so off to the health food store.
I
> also purchased the granola, mine was berry flavored.  It looked
alot
> like the IAMS that I give to my Jack Russell.  The texture was
> horrible and there weren't any dried berries included.  I am also
> wondering why they need such a big box for such a small amount of
> product...
> I heard that we can eat rice crispies, and you can get a HUGE box
for
> half the cost, so SNAP CRACKLE POP!
>

Hanna-
  The info you posted is not true. Please check your facts before
posting. Thanks!! MSG has nothing to do with gluten ingredients in
the US. Many people have trouble with MSG, but it has nothing to do
with gluten.
-Jessica

--- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, Hanna Kapitulnik
<hkapitulnik@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> glutamate is not gluten that is true BUT msg is not safe it
originates
> from a wheat base and is NOT gluten free it is also very bad for
non gf
> people so celiacs should avoid it. there are some corn based msg but
> only in Europe. So stay away...
> Hanna
> --- annette lutzen <annettel101@...> wrote:
>
> > the glutamate isn't gluten so it's okay, I think.  And have nut-
thins
> > changed their labeling?  The ones I've seen say "made in a
facility
> > that also processes wheat" or words to that effect.  I hope
they're
> > okay since I really do like their product - I ate them pre-celiac.
> >
> > joanneh1213 <joanneh1213@...> wrote:          Does anyone know
> > if Monosodium Glutamate{MSG} safe or not? I didn't
> > know if the glutamate had anything to do with it?
> > I don't know if anyone came across these crackers called Nut-
Thins by
> >
> > Blue Diamond and they are proud sponsors of the Celiac Disease
> > Foundations Yeahhh I tried some myself and they are pretty darned
> > good.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Building a website is a piece of cake.
> > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
>
>
> Hanna Kapitulnik, Pastry Chef/Owner
> Kapcakes Gluten Free Bakehouse
> Palo Alto, CA 94306
> Tel: (650) 494 8232
> http://www.kapcakes.com
>

Carol-
   It's me...Jessica...the owner. All of the recipes are posted by me :)
Anyways....the chips are banana chips....dried banana. You can make
them at home or usually pick them up at the health food store (don't
have a brand name for you).

As far as a sub for the nuts. Maybe you could do some flavored popcorn,
corn nuts, fritos, something crunchy & salty. I do nuts for the
protein. Helps it "stick with you" longer.

You really don't have to follow that recipe to a "T". Put in your kids
favorites if they like raisins, dried cranberries, fruit snacks,
whatever throw those into the bag. It's a pretty user friendly
recipe ;) Good luck and let me know how it goes!!

-Jessica
--- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, "iammamapie" <iammamapie@...>
wrote:
>
> I am not sure whose ID this is but you have the snack recipe in the
> files.
> I wanted to make this and wanted to know are these dried banana's you
> are referring to or chips like potatoe chips ...
>
> If you make this for kids can you sub something else for all of the
> nuts and if so what would you recommend ??
> My kids do not eat nuts at least not very often.
>
>
>
> And what brand do you use ???
>
> Thanks    Carol P.
>

Kellogg's Rice Krispies are NOT gluten free. They contain malt flavor
which is made from barley and is an offending grain on the gluten
free diet.


MSG is not a concern in reguards to gluten (in the US). Many people
have trouble with MSG, however it is NOT because of any offending
gluten grains.  You can find it on the "safe list" at celiac.com by
following this link.
http://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?
p_prodid=183&p_catid=12&sid=91hH9H1kD2jw1xr-07107321559.1f


Just a reminder to be VERY sure of your information before you post
it. It takes less time to look up info and be SURE of it before you
post than it does to try to correct mis-information once it is put
out there!! I would really hate for someone to get sick just because
of someone's mis-information. Please Please BE CAREFUL!!

As always, please check things for yourself before following any
info. This board is meant as a guideline...not gospel!!

Take care,
Jessica
USASillyYaks Owner :)

Hi all
glutamate is not gluten that is true BUT msg is not safe it originates
from a wheat base and is NOT gluten free it is also very bad for non gf
people so celiacs should avoid it. there are some corn based msg but
only in Europe. So stay away...
Hanna
--- annette lutzen <annettel101@...> wrote:

> the glutamate isn't gluten so it's okay, I think.  And have nut-thins
> changed their labeling?  The ones I've seen say "made in a facility
> that also processes wheat" or words to that effect.  I hope they're
> okay since I really do like their product - I ate them pre-celiac.
>
> joanneh1213 <joanneh1213@...> wrote:          Does anyone know
> if Monosodium Glutamate{MSG} safe or not? I didn't
> know if the glutamate had anything to do with it?
> I don't know if anyone came across these crackers called Nut-Thins by
>
> Blue Diamond and they are proud sponsors of the Celiac Disease
> Foundations Yeahhh I tried some myself and they are pretty darned
> good.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Building a website is a piece of cake.
> Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.


Hanna Kapitulnik, Pastry Chef/Owner
Kapcakes Gluten Free Bakehouse
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Tel: (650) 494 8232
http://www.kapcakes.com

--- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, "Keith MacFarland"
<keith3196@...> wrote:
>
> I was at the store the other day and saw this really appetizing box
of
> Gluten Free cereal.. advertised as "Cinnamon Crunch granola" by
Enjoy
> Life foods. The picture looked great.. something from a textbook
> looking granola cereal.
>
> When I got the box home and opened it, it was half full, the product
> in half the box weighed in very heavy. In addition it was a very
dark
> brown, almost brownie in color - NOT LIKE THE PICTURE AT ALL. In
> addition it tasted horrible.. to say it was disgusting would be an
> understatement.. it did not get better with milk (which in my book
is
> what cereal should do), it was in crumbs and huge heavy chunks..
>
> I would highly NOT recommend this product, in fact, I am so pissed
at
> the obvious attempt at misleading advertising, which in my mind,
takes
> advantage of people who have been "longing" for replacement foods
for
> their restricted diets.
>
> I would not believe any of the pics on their products at all.. I
don't
> know if anyone else has had similar experiences with their products
or
> even positive ones.. but I felt it was my obligation to pass this
> review along so no one else throws away $4.59 on a pile of tasteless
> crumbs and mudballs.
>
> I have half a mind to report them to a consumer board.. I get so
angry
> when these mfgers take advantage of people who are desperate to find
> palatable foods...
>
> Keith (NJ)
>
Keith,
I feel your pain!! I got diagnosed 2 days ago with Celiac, but can't
meet with a dietician until July, so off to the health food store.  I
also purchased the granola, mine was berry flavored.  It looked alot
like the IAMS that I give to my Jack Russell.  The texture was
horrible and there weren't any dried berries included.  I am also
wondering why they need such a big box for such a small amount of
product...
I heard that we can eat rice crispies, and you can get a HUGE box for
half the cost, so SNAP CRACKLE POP!

I am not sure whose ID this is but you have the snack recipe in the
files.
I wanted to make this and wanted to know are these dried banana's you
are referring to or chips like potatoe chips ...

If you make this for kids can you sub something else for all of the
nuts and if so what would you recommend ??
My kids do not eat nuts at least not very often.



And what brand do you use ???

Thanks    Carol P.

Re: Will anybody answer my on my previous question, about whether the
candies on the list are actually gluten-free?

XXXX Which candies on which list?

HTH
Bunnie
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bunnie,

Here in our Yahoo group, in the "Files" section, there is a folder
called "Candy" created by angel_jdl in October, 2006. It lists a lot
of candies which I believe she says are GF. I'd just like to know if
this is true, or what. I have a sweet tooth, and would love to be able
to eat candy again.

I recently sent an email to the Hershey company asking them
specifically if the York Peppermint Pattie is certified to be GF, but
they haven't even answered me. Maybe I have to resort to old-fashioned
mail.

Mary

Mary,
I would think that if it's in the file section of this list, it is reliable. However,  there is always the caveat to read the labels, as ingredients change. If you're worried about cross contamination, it's usually best to contact the manufacturers directly, and ask if dedicated lines are used, or if they thoroughly clean the machines after processing  gluten containing foods.
I hope that helps. Good luck, and please do share with us when and if you get a response from Hershey.
Bunnie

Everyone has their own opinions of whether things taste good or not.
I eat their granola every day and really like it! I eat it on
yogurt, not as cereal. But then I have been GF for 12 years now and
my taste buds have changed. At least these people are trying to
provide us with substitutions! Back when I first became GF the only
bread around was by Ener-G foods and it was like styrofoam, but if
you really wanted pre-made bread, you sucked it up and ate it...

I am not sure how you can characterize this as an "obvious attempt"
to mislead people...I wasn't misled.

In terms of color on the box - whoop-de-doo - printers are never
calibrated correctly when printing things like this. I am sure that
matching the exact color of the granola with the box color is the
least of their worries. I don't think they purposefully tried to
mislead you by not having the exact color of their product on the
box.

Boxes are sold by weight, not by how full the package is. Did you
weigh the box to make sure you were getting the right amount? Using
the "fullness" of the box is not the way to judge. All cereal and
chips settle.

Move on and just don't buy it anymore. No reason to harass them
about it. Again, everyone has their individual taste buds, mine like
(most of) their products!

I like Enjoy Life's bagels a lot - better than Trader Joe's - and
healthier than others out there, like Kinnickinnick (which is full
of sugar and high glycemic, highly refined flours).

I will admit that I don't like their soft cookies, they have
a "strange tongue feel" to me and an aftertaste. So I just don't buy
them. I didn't get pissed off at them and send them hate mail.

Renee

--- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, "Keith MacFarland"
<keith3196@...> wrote:
>
> I was at the store the other day and saw this really appetizing
box of
> Gluten Free cereal.. advertised as "Cinnamon Crunch granola" by
Enjoy
> Life foods. The picture looked great.. something from a textbook
> looking granola cereal.
>
> When I got the box home and opened it, it was half full, the
product
> in half the box weighed in very heavy. In addition it was a very
dark
> brown, almost brownie in color - NOT LIKE THE PICTURE AT ALL. In
> addition it tasted horrible.. to say it was disgusting would be an
> understatement.. it did not get better with milk (which in my book
is
> what cereal should do), it was in crumbs and huge heavy chunks..
>
> I would highly NOT recommend this product, in fact, I am so pissed
at
> the obvious attempt at misleading advertising, which in my mind,
takes
> advantage of people who have been "longing" for replacement foods
for
> their restricted diets.
>
> I would not believe any of the pics on their products at all.. I
don't
> know if anyone else has had similar experiences with their
products or
> even positive ones.. but I felt it was my obligation to pass this
> review along so no one else throws away $4.59 on a pile of
tasteless
> crumbs and mudballs.
>
> I have half a mind to report them to a consumer board.. I get so
angry
> when these mfgers take advantage of people who are desperate to
find
> palatable foods...
>
> Keith (NJ)
>

Corn Flakes - Nature's Path brand, found at WHole Foods and Fruitful
Yield's here in Chicago-land. Other small health food stores will
carry this brand as well. I eat the Honey'd Corn Flakes - I am
addicted to sugar!!

> Corn Flakes - every box of corn flakes I've read has some unsafe
> ingredient; which one do you have that is safe?

Soy Sauce - LaChoy brand is GF per the ingredient list - you can buy
it about anywhere. Our local big name grocery stores carry it.

> Soy Sauce - from what I've heard, soy sauce is unsafe because it's
> made from some wheat product; unless of course you buy a brand that
> actually says "gluten-free", which I haven't found yet. Anyone have
> a brand name, or where I can get it?

Renee

Re:  Will anybody answer my on my previous question, about whether the
candies on the list are actually gluten-free?

XXXX Which candies on which list?

HTH
Bunnie
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bunnie,

Here in our Yahoo group, in the "Files" section, there is a folder
called "Candy" created by angel_jdl in October, 2006.  It lists a lot
of candies which I believeshe says are GF. I'd just like to know if
this is true, or what. I have a sweet tooth, and would love to be able
to eat candy again.

I recently sent an email to the Hershey company asking them
specifically if the York Peppermint Pattie is certified to be GF, but
they haven't even answered me. Maybe I have to resort to old-fashioned
mail.

Mary

There are a couple bloodtests, some are more accurate than others.
The ttg one is supposed to be the best: if you test positive, you
have a 99% chance of the test being accurate, if you test negative,
there is only a 5% chance it was wrong.  Some of the older tests
have a 24% miss rate...

Regardless, you have to be biopsied to confirm CD.  This is when
they run a tube down your throat and snip a piece of your upper
bowel to check it (I think it's a gastroscopy?... someone here
should recall what it's called). A colonoscopy will not detect CD
because the bowel damage starts just below your stomach, not the
other end...

Diabetes itself does not mean CD, but it is very common among
Celiacs.

Just tell your doctor she needs a biopsy to confirm CD... especially
if avoiding gluten has made her feel better (but, again, they
suggest you don't avoid gluten until after they do the biopsy so
they get an accurate reading).  I believe that the standard
diagnostic test for CD IS the small bowel biopsy and, although blood
tests help lead doctors to the diagnosis, it can't really be
diagnosed 100% without the biopsy.

--- In USASillyYaks@yahoogroups.com, joanne hill <joanneh1213@...>
wrote:
>
> The Dr did run a blood tests then mentioned then that she may do
further tests such as a colonoscopy{sp?}   So what test do they do
they usually do to get a biopsy?
>    I noticed that when i read some of these posts.  I really hope
that this Dr isn't going to screw all that up on us.
>   But we did get her blood tests back on her sugar  last yr at
this time{different Dr last yr} they said she was borderline
diabetic and this year they are saying its a little low so she is
sending her for the gloucouse tolerence test. I'm sure just to be on
the safe side. So in other words the blood tests are going to show
anything?  Now i'm really confused GRRR  Joanne/MI
>

I usually don't buy the gluten free version of baked
goods, etc, but tonight I was really hungry after a
day of salads and hadn't gotten to the store to buy my
usual sesame bars. So I decided to try some coco loco
bars made by, guess who...Enjoy Life. LOL. They don't
sound as bad as Keith's cornflakes, but they were
tiny, about a 3 on a 1-10 scale for taste, and
strangely they had these weird nonchewable hard bits
in them. Finally I looked at the ingredient list
again, and they were sunflower seed hulls (????) I'm
not sure why hulls would be an ingredient in anything,
but it definitely did not work.

Anyway, I laughed when I got home from the store and
found this message. Enjoy Life needs to get themselves
a focus group or something. I guess on the positive
side, for a baked good with no nuts, soy, eggs,
gluten, corn, or dairy, they weren't the worst thing
I've ever had.


--- maya s <mayaglutenfree@...> wrote:

> I had that same experience with their granola as
> well as their "nutrigrain-like" snack bars. at this
> point i am just used to feeling disappointed by
> gluten free packaged food, unfortunately.
>
> Keith MacFarland <keith3196@...> wrote:
>                           I was at the store the
> other day and saw this really appetizing box of
>  Gluten Free cereal.. advertised as "Cinnamon Crunch
> granola" by Enjoy
>  Life foods. The picture looked great.. something
> from a textbook
>  looking granola cereal.
>
>  When I got the box home and opened it, it was half
> full, the product
>  in half the box weighed in very heavy. In addition
> it was a very dark
>  brown, almost brownie in color - NOT LIKE THE
> PICTURE AT ALL. In
>  addition it tasted horrible.. to say it was
> disgusting would be an
>  understatement.. it did not get better with milk
> (which in my book is
>  what cereal should do), it was in crumbs and huge
> heavy chunks..
>
>  I would highly NOT recommend this product, in fact,
> I am so pissed at
>  the obvious attempt at misleading advertising,
> which in my mind, takes
>  advantage of people who have been "longing" for
> replacement foods for
>  their restricted diets.
>
>  I would not believe any of the pics on their
> products at all.. I don't
>  know if anyone else has had similar experiences
> with their products or
>  even positive ones.. but I felt it was my
> obligation to pass this
>  review along so no one else throws away $4.59 on a
> pile of tasteless
>  crumbs and mudballs.
>
>  I have half a mind to report them to a consumer
> board.. I get so angry
>  when these mfgers take advantage of people who are
> desperate to find
>  palatable foods...
>
>  Keith (NJ)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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online.




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I have celiac disease (officially 11 months now!) and have re-
designed my diet to avoid gluten. I've been vegetarian for 11 years
and don't see myself becoming vegan because I love cheese.

An aquaintance of mine, who happens to be in the food formulation
business (he makes a gluten-free, non-gmo, organic, vegan, kosher
product that is incredibly good), claims that I need to avoid dairy
as well- mainly cheese, because it is a fungus; and gluten and dairy
feed off each other, making this concoction of what celiacs cannot
digest. He actually said that I could eat gluten if I didn't consume
dairy. A lot of vegan "meats" contain gluten (HVP). While I find
this hard to beleive, it does make some sense. I mean, how many
vegans are out there who have celiac disease? I just think its rare
enough that no one has ever tested it on real people. And its not
just skipping dairy for a day in order to eat a slice of bread....it
has to be long term in order to help because it takes so long for our
bodies to rid of the fungus. I'm not sure I'm willing to try it
though. The sinus headaches, fatigue and psoriasis are not my
friends, and I don't want to risk thier return. Yeah, I am lucky
enough not to have gastro symptoms from celiac disease, but I missed
so much work from the sinus headaches.

Any thoughts on this? Or maybe not just thoughts, but has anyone
ever heard of this? He also recommended the website www.notmilk.com
(not his site, it some Dr's work) Its possibly a little "out there",
but enough to get things cooking in your mind.
(I'm also posting this on Food Allergy Network, just trying to get a
wide audience/variety of responses).
Thanks,
Kristen

Does anyone know if Monosodium Glutamate{MSG} safe or not? I didn't
know if the glutamate had anything to do with it?
I don't know if anyone came across these crackers called Nut-Thins by
Blue Diamond and they are proud sponsors of the Celiac Disease
Foundations Yeahhh I tried some myself and they are pretty darned
good.

Hi Linda,

Here's the link to the rice dream website that says
which products are gluten free.
http://www.tastethedream.com/health/glutenfree.php .
The rice milk is not, but they explain on the website
that they just use the enzymes from barley not barley
malt flavoring and say the parts per million is very
tiny. I've never heard anything about using enzymes
before, but it was interesting to read. I'm skeptical
about the gluten-freeness of the ice cream now after
my experiene. But who knows, it could have been one of
the other foods I ate.

-Jen


--- Linda Forrester <grambo@...> wrote:

> I have been using Rice Dream Milk every day thinking
> it was gluten free ! Now I learn it is not !   Wow !
>  I do not know what to use for milk now !




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I was at the store the other day and saw this really appetizing box of
Gluten Free cereal.. advertised as "Cinnamon Crunch granola" by Enjoy
Life foods. The picture looked great.. something from a textbook
looking granola cereal.

When I got the box home and opened it, it was half full, the product
in half the box weighed in very heavy. In addition it was a very dark
brown, almost brownie in color - NOT LIKE THE PICTURE AT ALL. In
addition it tasted horrible.. to say it was disgusting would be an
understatement.. it did not get better with milk (which in my book is
what cereal should do), it was in crumbs and huge heavy chunks..

I would highly NOT recommend this product, in fact, I am so pissed at
the obvious attempt at misleading advertising, which in my mind, takes
advantage of people who have been "longing" for replacement foods for
their restricted diets.

I would not believe any of the pics on their products at all.. I don't
know if anyone else has had similar experiences with their products or
even positive ones.. but I felt it was my obligation to pass this
review along so no one else throws away $4.59 on a pile of tasteless
crumbs and mudballs.

I have half a mind to report them to a consumer board.. I get so angry
when these mfgers take advantage of people who are desperate to find
palatable foods...

Keith (NJ)

I have been using Rice Dream Milk every day thinking it was gluten free ! Now I learn it is not !   Wow !  I do not know what to use for milk now !

I have celiac disease (officially 11 months now!) and have re-
designed my diet to avoid gluten.  I've been vegetarian for 11 years
and don't see myself becoming vegan because I love cheese.

An aquaintance of mine, who happens to be in the food formulation
business (he makes a gluten-free, non-gmo, organic, vegan, kosher
product that is incredibly good), claims that I need to avoid dairy
as well- mainly cheese, because it is a fungus; and gluten and dairy
feed off each other, making this concoction of what celiacs cannot
digest.  He actually said that I could eat gluten if I didn't consume
dairy.  A lot of vegan "meats" contain gluten (HVP).  While I find
this hard to beleive, it does make some sense.  I mean, how many
vegans are out there who have celiac disease?  I just think its rare
enough that no one has ever tested it on real people.  And its not
just skipping dairy for a day in order to eat a slice of bread....it
has to be long term in order to help because it takes so long for our
bodies to rid of the fungus.  I'm not sure I'm willing to try it
though.  The sinus headaches, fatigue and psoriasis are not my
friends, and I don't want to risk thier return.  Yeah, I am lucky
enough not to have gastro symptoms from celiac disease, but I missed
so much work from the sinus headaches.

Any thoughts on this?  Or maybe not just thoughts, but has anyone
ever heard of this?  He also recommended the website www.notmilk.com
(not his site, it some Dr's work) Its possibly a little "out there",
but enough to get things cooking in your mind.
(I'm also posting this on Food Allergy Network, just trying to get a
wide audience/variety of responses).
Thanks,
Kristen