Thanks Heidi

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "believehopeserenity"
<geotrackr1@...> wrote:
>
> Hello-
>
> I found this Earth Clinic.com website, and thought I'd share. I
> apologize if the subject line is something already discussed.
>
> http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/body_odor.html
>
> The site has a really nice search engine if you want to do
research. If
> you are looking to try something new along with the low choline
plan,
> the above site takes you to some natural alternatives. I'm a
little
> hesitant with them using the word 'cure'with the page. Because as
we
> know we are all individuals, and what may work for some might not
for
> others.
>
> Take care, peace to all-
> Heidi
>

Hello-

I found this Earth Clinic.com website, and thought I'd share. I
apologize if the subject line is something already discussed.

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/body_odor.html

The site has a really nice search engine if you want to do research. If
you are looking to try something new along with the low choline plan,
the above site takes you to some natural alternatives. I'm a little
hesitant with them using the word 'cure'with the page. Because as we
know we are all individuals, and what may work for some might not for
others.

Take care, peace to all-
Heidi

Sorry about that link but here is another one. Just search Amazon
for this.

http://www.pureayre.com/online.htm


--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "sharnsk" <sharnsk@...>
wrote:
>
> I bought a kit like this one:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/PureAyre-Pet-Odor-Eliminator-
> Kit/dp/B000ITUBJI/ref=acc_glance_hpc_ai_-2_2_tit
>
> The black light shows where the odor causing bacteria are and the
> injector lets you put the exzymes right into the source, sofa, bed
or
> car seat. Otherwise you can spray all you want but the odor comes
back.
>
> --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "jerry33" <jerry33@>
wrote:
> >
> > Read the reviews on Amazon:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Homedics-BRT-150-Brethe-Air-
> Revitalizer/dp/B000QTUK3C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-
> garden&qid=1219621638&sr=8-1
> >
> > Seems to me that it is just an air freshener.  Biggest complaint
is
> with
> > the scent.  It smells like pinesol and can be overpowering.
Others
> > described it as a scent you would find in a public restroom.  A
couple
> > said it smelled like a janitors closet blew up.  But a majority
of the
> > reviewers were happy with the scent.
> >
>

I bought a kit like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/PureAyre-Pet-Odor-Eliminator-
Kit/dp/B000ITUBJI/ref=acc_glance_hpc_ai_-2_2_tit

The black light shows where the odor causing bacteria are and the
injector lets you put the exzymes right into the source, sofa, bed or
car seat. Otherwise you can spray all you want but the odor comes back.

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "jerry33" <jerry33@...> wrote:
>
> Read the reviews on Amazon:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Homedics-BRT-150-Brethe-Air-
Revitalizer/dp/B000QTUK3C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-
garden&qid=1219621638&sr=8-1
>
> Seems to me that it is just an air freshener.  Biggest complaint is
with
> the scent.  It smells like pinesol and can be overpowering.  Others
> described it as a scent you would find in a public restroom.  A couple
> said it smelled like a janitors closet blew up.  But a majority of the
> reviewers were happy with the scent.
>

Read the reviews on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Homedics-BRT-150-Brethe-Air-Revitalizer/dp/B000QTUK3C/ref=\
sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1219621638&sr=8-1

Seems to me that it is just an air freshener.  Biggest complaint is with
the scent.  It smells like pinesol and can be overpowering.  Others
described it as a scent you would find in a public restroom.  A couple
said it smelled like a janitors closet blew up.  But a majority of the
reviewers were happy with the scent.

Hi Mercy,

This is the first time I ever seen this. Maybe someone else here has
tried it??

I have allergies and certain scents really bother me.

Sharon+

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, mercy kimani
<kanyoni16@...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if you've heard of this product/ the reviews are
pretty good but I'm always skeptical about online reviews. Most
people gave it 4 stars out of five. It costs about $50.00 but I have
a coupon for the store I'd buy it at. I just wanted to know if
anyone had tried it before I buy.
> Thanks,
> Mercy.
>  
> Homedics BRT-150 Brethe Air Revitalizer
>  
> Product Description
> This air revitalizer neutralizes up to 99% of odor causing
bacteria and removes odors caused by pets, smoke and other odor
causing bacteria. The unique vortex cleaning action uses an
intense "rainforest" mist to wash incoming air with an emulsified
botanical solution. This 100% natural botanical solution comes with
a choice of 3- 2.03 fluid ounce scents. Refreshing citrus,
energizing lime and soothing vanilla. No bacteria filled wicks or
filters are required and the air revitalizer also helps to maintain
optimum humidity levels while the soothing blue light adds ambiance
to any environment.
>  
>

Oh Becky I have pros and cons about certain uses I have tried and
still not finished trying it. I just have enjoyed a pleasant scent
for a change but wondered if anyone else had a comment about the
scent?.

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, reb4p@... wrote:
>
> Sharon+
> I like the smell but it to soon to tell.
> Becky+
>
>
> In a message dated 8/23/2008 9:27:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sharnsk@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Becky, what do you think of the mild mint so far?
>
> I am still  evaluating it but not endorsing it yet. I do like the
> mint. Anyone else  trying it let me know.
>
> Sharon+
>
> --- In _Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) ,  reb4p@ wrote:
> >
> > Sharon+
> > Thanks for the  information.
> > My order arrived from Petco today.
> > Becky
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/22/2008 8:12:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight
Time,
> > vegman23@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks so much. I thought it tasted pretty good, too.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > --- On Fri, 8/22/08, sharnsk  <sharnsk@> wrote:
> >
> > From: sharnsk  <sharnsk@>
> > Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat  box
> > To: Trimethylaminuria@ To: Tr
> > Date: Friday, August  22, 2008, 7:52 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > 1 TSP water to 1 tsp  Pureayre.
> >
> > Let me know what you think. I sprayed it in my  mouth and it
> tasted
> > good. Still expiramenting on other ways and  haven't got to the
> > breath yet.
> >
> > Sharon+
> >
> > --- In _Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com_
> > (mailto:_Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) )  , brian watson
> > <vegman23@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Does anyone know how much water I need to dilute Pureayre to
> use
> >  as a mouthwash?
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 8/14/08, sharnsk  <sharnsk@ > wrote:
> > > From: sharnsk <sharnsk@ >
> >  > Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
> > > To:  _Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com_
> > (mailto:_Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 9:07 AM
> > >
> >  >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It is not a cure  because only the diet will give you real
> relief
> > but
> > >
> > > this product helps when the odor is difficult and gives a
> > temporary
> > >
> > > solution.
> > >
> >  >
> > >
> > > Since it is made from 100% fruit and  vegetable enzymes and a
> small
> > >
> > > am't essential  mint oil it is said to be safe enough for a
> mouth
> > >
> >  > wash if diluted. Due to a Propritary License they do not have
> to
> > >
> > > disclose their trade ingredients but I was told it  contains
> Papaya
> > >
> > > and Grape enzymes as well as  over 100+ others. It's enzyme
> breaks
> > >
> > > the bonds  of odor causing molecules inc'l amines, mercaptans
> ans
> > >
> > > sulfides.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  So read up on Pureayre but don't expect miracles or a cure.
> Just a
> > >
> > > nice very mild mint frangrance that can be sprayed  anywhere
and
> on
> > >
> > > anything. If you have been on  the conference calls then you
> know
> > >
> > > some of the  areas I use it on. Bye the way I have allergies
and
> > any
> > >
> > > flower based products like Fabreeze or Odor Ban give me
> respitory
> > >
> > > problems and this does NOT!! Realy  nice to spay in a room if
> you
> > are
> > >
> > > at  work and no one can hear the fine spray of the small
sample
> > >
> > > bottle. Its your secret weapon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Look for it at Petco??? Same product but has cute  dog picture
> on
> > >
> > > bottle. LOL!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __http://www.pureayreh_ (http://www.pureayre_/)
(_http://www.pureayreh_
> (http://www.pureayre/) ) .com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Intersting link on it:
> > >
> > > __http://www.stogiereh_ (http://www.stogiere_/)
(_http://www.stogiereh_
> (http://www.stogiere/) ) view.com/
> 01/22/2007/
> > odor-eliminator-
> > comparison/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@  yahoogroups. com, jessie fleury
> > <jessfl@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >  > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > >
> > >  > Please send me some info about this enzyme product if
> possible,
> > i
> > >
> > > would love to try it.
> > >
> > > > thanks
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >  > > To: Trimethylaminuria@ ...: sharnsk@: Wed, 13 Aug 2008
> 12:56:08
> > >
> > > +0000Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat  box
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> >  >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Becky,This is a new area for me but I am trying to
> understand
> > >
> > > the three odor causing molecules,  mercaptans, sulfides and
> amine
> > >
> > > based  compounds. There has been some testing of a natural
> enzyme
> > >
> > > product that will break these odor causing bonds to
neutralize
> the
> > >
> > > odor on surfaces. There are only a few of  us expirimenting
with
> it
> > >
> > > in various ways but  the verdict is still out. The owner of
the
> > >
> > > company  has been wonderful in helping to understand some of
> this.I
> > >
> > > had an underarm skunk odor that was diagnosed as a mercaptan
by
> a
> > >
> > > well known researcher. In my readings I find  it can be in
wine
> and
> > >
> > > cheese. I don't  understand it but I think you may be right
> about
> > the
> >  >
> > > dairy as it makes that odor worse for me. Bye the way TMAU  is
> an
> > >
> > > amine odor!! Here is an intersting link.
> > >
> > > __http://www.infopleah_ (http://www.infoplea_/)
(_http://www.infopleah_
> (http://www.infoplea/) ) se.com/ce6/
> sci/A0832739.
> > html--- In
> > >
> > >  Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com, reb4p@ wrote:>> I think
> dairy
> > >
> > > makes me smell like strong cat urine.>  Becky> > > > In a
> message
> > >
> > > dated  8/12/2008 9:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >
sharnsk@
> > >
> > > writes:> > > > > Can you smell it yourself? Most  odor causing
> > >
> > > molecules are mercaptans, >  sulfides or amine based
compounds.
> I
> > >
> > > think the  cat urine would be a > Mercaptan?> > If it is than
> you
> >  may
> > >
> > > want to look at the underarms and breath for a  > clue.> > ---
> In
> > >
> > > _Trimethylaminuria@  TrimethylamiTri_ >
> > >
> > > (mailto:Trimethylam inuria@  yahoogroups. com) , "intamissy23"
> >
> > >
> > >  <intamissy23@ int> wrote:> >> > Hello group mates,> >  I'm
> having
> > >
> > > trouble trying to figure out what  could possibly be > causing
>
> >
> > me
> > >
> > > to smell like a dirty cat box.> >> > > > >  > > >
> > >
> > > ************ **Looking for a car  that's sporty, fun and fits
in
> > your
> > >
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> >  >
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> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> >  >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ____________  _________ _________ _________ _________
> _________ _
> > >
> >  > > Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you
are.
> > >
> > > Start here.
> > >
> > > > __http://www.windowslh_ (http://www.windowsl_/)
> (_http://www.windowslh_ (http://www.windowsl/) )
> ive.com/default. html?
> > >
> > > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_  WL_Home_082008
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Becky, what do you think of the mild mint so far?

I am still evaluating it but not endorsing it yet. I do like the
mint. Anyone else trying it let me know.

Sharon+

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, reb4p@... wrote:
>
> Sharon+
> Thanks for the information.
> My order arrived from Petco today.
> Becky
>
>
> In a message dated 8/22/2008 8:12:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> vegman23@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Thanks so much. I thought it tasted pretty good, too.
>
> Brian
>
> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, sharnsk  <sharnsk@...> wrote:
>
> From:  sharnsk <sharnsk@...>
> Subject: [Trimethylaminuria]  Re: Dirty cat box
> To:  Trimethylaminuria@To:  To:
> Date: Friday, August  22, 2008, 7:52 PM
>
>
>
> 1 TSP water to 1 tsp Pureayre.
>
> Let me know what you think. I  sprayed it in my mouth and it
tasted
> good. Still expiramenting on  other ways and haven't got to the
> breath  yet.
>
> Sharon+
>
> --- In _Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) , brian watson
> <vegman23@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know how  much water I need to dilute Pureayre to
use
> as a  mouthwash?
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/14/08, sharnsk  <sharnsk@ > wrote:
> > From: sharnsk <sharnsk@  >
> > Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
> >  To: _Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com)
> > Date:  Thursday, August 14, 2008, 9:07 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > It is not a cure  because only the diet will give you real
relief
> but
> >
> > this product helps when the odor is difficult and gives a
> temporary
> >
> > solution.
> >
> >
> >
> > Since it is made from 100% fruit and vegetable enzymes and a
small
> >
> > am't essential mint oil it is said to be safe  enough for a
mouth
> >
> > wash if diluted. Due to a  Propritary License they do not have
to
> >
> > disclose  their trade ingredients but I was told it contains
Papaya
> >
> > and Grape enzymes as well as over 100+ others. It's enzyme
breaks
> >
> > the bonds of odor causing molecules inc'l  amines, mercaptans
ans
> >
> > sulfides.
> >
> >
> >
> > So read up on Pureayre but don't expect miracles or  a cure.
Just a
> >
> > nice very mild mint frangrance that  can be sprayed anywhere and
on
> >
> > anything. If you have  been on the conference calls then you
know
> >
> > some of  the areas I use it on. Bye the way I have allergies and
> any
> >
> > flower based products like Fabreeze or Odor Ban give  me
respitory
> >
> > problems and this does NOT!! Realy nice  to spay in a room if
you
> are
> >
> > at work and no one  can hear the fine spray of the small sample
> >
> > bottle.  Its your secret weapon.
> >
> >
> >
> > Look for it  at Petco??? Same product but has cute dog picture
on
> >
> >  bottle. LOL!!
> >
> >
> >
> > _http://www.pureayre_ (http://www.pureayre/)  .com/
> >
> >
> >
> > Intersting link on it:
> >
> > _http://www.stogiere_ (http://www.stogiere/)  view.com/
01/22/2007/
> odor-eliminator-
> comparison/
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- In Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com, jessie fleury
> <jessfl@>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >  >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi,
> >
> > > Please send me some info about this enzyme product if
possible,
> i
> >
> > would love to try it.
> >
> > > thanks
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To: Trimethylaminuria@  ...: sharnsk@: Wed, 13 Aug 2008
12:56:08
> >
> >  +0000Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
> >
> >  >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> >  >
> >
> > > Hi Becky,This is a new area for me but I  am trying to
understand
> >
> > the three odor causing  molecules, mercaptans, sulfides and
amine
> >
> > based  compounds. There has been some testing of a natural
enzyme
> >
> > product that will break these odor causing bonds to  neutralize
the
> >
> > odor on surfaces. There are only a  few of us expirimenting with
it
> >
> > in various ways but  the verdict is still out. The owner of the
> >
> > company  has been wonderful in helping to understand some of
this.I
> >
> > had an underarm skunk odor that was diagnosed as a mercaptan  by
a
> >
> > well known researcher. In my readings I find it  can be in wine
and
> >
> > cheese. I don't understand it but  I think you may be right
about
> the
> >
> > dairy as it  makes that odor worse for me. Bye the way TMAU is
an
> >
> >  amine odor!! Here is an intersting link.
> >
> > _http://www.infoplea_ (http://www.infoplea/)  se.com/ce6/
sci/A0832739.
> html---  In
> >
> > Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com, reb4p@  wrote:>> I think
dairy
> >
> > makes me smell like  strong cat urine.> Becky> > > > In a
message
> >
> > dated 8/12/2008 9:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >  sharnsk@
> >
> > writes:> > > > > Can you  smell it yourself? Most odor causing
> >
> > molecules are  mercaptans, > sulfides or amine based compounds.
I
> >
> > think the cat urine would be a > Mercaptan?> > If it  is than
you
> may
> >
> > want to look at the underarms  and breath for a > clue.> > ---
In
> >
> >  _Trimethylaminuria@ TrimethylamiTri_ >
> >
> >  (mailto:Trimethylam inuria@ yahoogroups. com) , "intamissy23"
>
> >
> > <intamissy23@ int> wrote:> >> >  Hello group mates,> > I'm
having
> >
> > trouble  trying to figure out what could possibly be > causing >
>
> me
> >
> > to smell like a dirty cat box.> >>  > > > > > > >
> >
> > ************  **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in
> your
> >
> > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (_http://autos._
(http://autos./)
> aol.com/cars-
> >
> >  BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 000000017 )>
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >  ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
_________  _
> >
> > > Get Windows Live and get whatever you need,  wherever you are.
> >
> > Start here.
> >
> > >  _http://www.windowsl_ (http://www.windowsl/)
ive.com/default.  html?
> >
> > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ WL_Home_082008
> >
> >  >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find
your travel
> deal here.
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
>

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Trimethylaminuria group:

Can you smell yourself?

   o Yes, smell self, have fishy smell.
   o Yes,  have other smell.
   o Can not smell myself.
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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
Trimethylaminuria group:

According to the CDC the average height of a man aged
20-74 years is 5'9 ½".

The average height of a woman the same age is 5'4".

Research has suggested that a persons height can be
effected if they had a metabolic condition since birth.
Using the above CDC guide for average height:

   o I am average or within one inch of the CDC Guide and + for TMAU.
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Thanks!

1 TSP water to 1 tsp Pureayre.

Let me know what you think. I sprayed it in my mouth and it tasted
good. Still expiramenting on other ways and haven't got to the
breath yet.

Sharon+

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, brian watson
<vegman23@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how much water I need to dilute Pureayre to use
as a mouthwash?
>
> --- On Thu, 8/14/08, sharnsk <sharnsk@...> wrote:
> From: sharnsk <sharnsk@...>
> Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
> To: Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 9:07 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             Hi,
>
>
>
> It is not a cure because only the diet will give you real relief
but
>
> this product helps when the odor is difficult and gives a
temporary
>
> solution.
>
>
>
> Since it is made from 100% fruit and vegetable enzymes and a small
>
> am't essential mint oil it is said to be safe enough for a mouth
>
> wash if diluted. Due to a Propritary License they do not have to
>
> disclose their trade ingredients but I was told it contains Papaya
>
> and Grape enzymes as well as over 100+ others. It's enzyme breaks
>
> the bonds of odor causing molecules inc'l amines, mercaptans ans
>
> sulfides.
>
>
>
> So read up on Pureayre but don't expect miracles or a cure. Just a
>
> nice very mild mint frangrance that can be sprayed anywhere and on
>
> anything. If you have been on the conference calls then you know
>
> some of the areas I use it on. Bye the way I have allergies and
any
>
> flower based products like Fabreeze or Odor Ban give me respitory
>
> problems and this does NOT!! Realy nice to spay in a room if you
are
>
> at work and no one can hear the fine spray of the small sample
>
> bottle. Its your secret weapon.
>
>
>
> Look for it at Petco??? Same product but has cute dog picture on
>
> bottle. LOL!!
>
>
>
> http://www.pureayre .com/
>
>
>
> Intersting link on it:
>
> http://www.stogiere view.com/ 01/22/2007/ odor-eliminator-
comparison/
>
>
>
> --- In Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com, jessie fleury
<jessfl@>
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Please send me some info about this enzyme product if possible,
i
>
> would love to try it.
>
> > thanks
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > To: Trimethylaminuria@ ...: sharnsk@: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:56:08
>
> +0000Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Becky,This is a new area for me but I am trying to understand
>
> the three odor causing molecules, mercaptans, sulfides and amine
>
> based compounds. There has been some testing of a natural enzyme
>
> product that will break these odor causing bonds to neutralize the
>
> odor on surfaces. There are only a few of us expirimenting with it
>
> in various ways but the verdict is still out. The owner of the
>
> company has been wonderful in helping to understand some of this.I
>
> had an underarm skunk odor that was diagnosed as a mercaptan by a
>
> well known researcher. In my readings I find it can be in wine and
>
> cheese. I don't understand it but I think you may be right about
the
>
> dairy as it makes that odor worse for me. Bye the way TMAU is an
>
> amine odor!! Here is an intersting link.
>
> http://www.infoplea se.com/ce6/ sci/A0832739. html--- In
>
> Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com, reb4p@ wrote:>> I think dairy
>
> makes me smell like strong cat urine.> Becky> > > > In a message
>
> dated 8/12/2008 9:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > sharnsk@
>
> writes:> > > > > Can you smell it yourself? Most odor causing
>
> molecules are mercaptans, > sulfides or amine based compounds. I
>
> think the cat urine would be a > Mercaptan?> > If it is than you
may
>
> want to look at the underarms and breath for a > clue.> > --- In
>
> _Trimethylaminuria@ TrimethylamiTri_ >
>
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@ yahoogroups. com) , "intamissy23" >
>
> <intamissy23@ int> wrote:> >> > Hello group mates,> > I'm having
>
> trouble trying to figure out what could possibly be > causing > >
me
>
> to smell like a dirty cat box.> >> > > > > > > >
>
> ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in
your
>
> budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos. aol.com/cars-
>
> BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 000000017 )>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
>
> > Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are.
>
> Start here.
>
> > http://www.windowsl ive.com/default. html?
>
> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ WL_Home_082008
>
> >
>

Yes.C.E.T. but I know it was a rinse that could be swallowed. I
remember because I don't think animals spit it out, at least not on
purpose!!!!

The person using it is very intellegent and has researched it other
wise I wouldn't mention it. I would compare it to the human Rx
before trying it though. There are thousands of medications for pets
that were made for humans and vise versa. Pureayre is one and it is
all natural with no flower enzymes if you have asthma or allergies.
The reason Fabreeze and others bother me is the flower enzyme or
chemicals.

I still am leary about the C.E.T. though and would like to know if
anyone has tried the prescription brand from their dentist?.

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, <chanley13@...> wrote:
>
> Sharon,
>
> Are you talking about the CET toothpaste for pets? Pet stores
don't sell it,I believe you can only buy it online or in vets
offices.
>
>
> ---- sharnsk <sharnsk@...> wrote:
> > Hi Becky,
> >
> > Yes I use it on my body. It was only after several people
approved
> > the product before I tried it that way. One was my husband who
works
> > with chemicals and enzymes like these. This is part of a trial
but
> > two of us members are continuing the expiriment.
> >
> > My husband talked with the owner of the company before the trial
and
> > has been judging my odor. It is expensive and a luxury item for
sure
> > but the mild mint fragrance seems to give me a nice feeling??
Like
> > finally having a scent that doesn't clash.
> >
> > http://www.pureayre.com/
> >
> > http://www.petco.com/product/103959/PureAyre-Odor-Eliminator-For-
> > Dogs.aspx
> >
> > If you try it on soft surfaces like rugs, sofa and bedding that
has
> > had the odor for awhile the spray will work for several hours
and
> > return. You need to use an injector to get it deep into the rug
or
> > material to rid it permanently. This applies to any similar
product
> > you try. That is why people say it only last 6 hours or so.
> >
> > If you are in a closed area with people you can spray it in the
air
> > and the mint is so mild that people think someone put a mint in
> > their mouth. The small pocket bottle really makes hardly any
sound.
> > A secret weapon that cleans the air!!
> >
> > The ingredients are the same whether you buy dog, cat, baby or
house
> > bottle.
> >
> > I was also told recently that C.E.T sold in pet stores is the
same
> > as Chlorhexidine sold as a prescription for humans by dentists
for
> > mouth odor???
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, reb4p@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > Do you use Pureayre on your body?
> > > Becky
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 8/14/2008 9:08:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight
Time,
> > > sharnsk@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > It is not a cure because only the diet will give you real
relief
> > but
> > > this product helps when the odor is difficult and gives a
> > temporary
> > > solution.
> > >
> > > Since it is made from 100% fruit and vegetable enzymes  and a
> > small
> > > am't essential mint oil it is said to be safe enough for a
mouth
> > > wash if diluted. Due to a Propritary License they do not have
to
> > > disclose their trade ingredients but I was told it contains
Papaya
> > > and  Grape enzymes as well as over 100+ others. It's enzyme
breaks
> > > the bonds of  odor causing molecules inc'l amines, mercaptans
ans
> > > sulfides.
> > >
> > > So  read up on Pureayre but don't expect miracles or a cure.
Just
> > a
> > > nice very  mild mint frangrance that can be sprayed anywhere
and
> > on
> > > anything. If you  have been on the conference calls then you
know
> > > some of the areas I use it  on. Bye the way I have allergies
and
> > any
> > > flower based products like  Fabreeze or Odor Ban give me
respitory
> > > problems and this does NOT!! Realy  nice to spay in a room if
you
> > are
> > > at work and no one can hear the fine  spray of the small
sample
> > > bottle. Its your secret weapon.
> > >
> > > Look for  it at Petco??? Same product but has cute dog picture
on
> > > bottle.  LOL!!
> > >
> > > _http://www.pureayrehttp:_ (http://www.pureayre.com/)
> > >
> > > Intersting  link on it:
> > >
> >
_http://www.stogierehttp://wwhttp://www.http://www.stogihttp://www._
> > > (http://www.stogiereview.com/01/22/2007/odor-eliminator-
> > comparison/)
> > >
> > > ---  In _Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> > > (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) ,  jessie fleury
> > <jessfl@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Please send me some info about this enzyme product if
possible,
> > i
> > > would love to try it.
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  To: Trimethylaminuria@  To: Trimethylaminuria@<WBR>...:
sharnsk@
> > > +0000Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Becky,This is a new area for me but I am trying  to
> > understand
> > > the three odor causing molecules, mercaptans, sulfides and
amine
> > > based compounds. There has been some testing of a natural
enzyme
> > > product that will break these odor causing bonds to neutralize
> > the
> > > odor on surfaces. There are only a few of us expirimenting
with it
> > > in  various ways but the verdict is still out. The owner of
the
> > > company has  been wonderful in helping to understand some of
> > this.I
> > > had an underarm  skunk odor that was diagnosed as a mercaptan
by a
> > > well known researcher.  In my readings I find it can be in
wine
> > and
> > > cheese. I don't understand it  but I think you may be right
about
> > the
> > > dairy as it makes that odor worse  for me. Bye the way TMAU is
an
> > > amine odor!! Here is an intersting link.
> > > _http://www.infopleahttp://www.http://www.inhttp://_
> > > (http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0832739.html---)   In
> > > _Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> > > (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) ,  reb4p@ wrote:>>
I
> > think dairy
> > > makes me smell like strong cat  urine.> Becky> > > > In a
message
> > > dated 8/12/2008 9:16:08  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >
sharnsk@
> > > writes:> > > > >  Can you smell it yourself? Most odor causing
> > > molecules are mercaptans,  > sulfides or amine based
compounds. I
> > > think the cat urine would be a  > Mercaptan?> > If it is than
you
> > may
> > > want to look at the  underarms and breath for a > clue.> > ---
In
> > > _Trimethylaminuria@_Trimethylaminuri>
> > > (mailto:_Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> > > (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) )  , "intamissy23"
>
> > > <intamissy23@int> wrote:> >> >  Hello group mates,> > I'm
having
> > > trouble trying to figure out what  could possibly be > causing
> >
> > me
> > > to smell like a dirty cat  box.> >> > > > > > > >
> > > ************************<WBR>**Looking for a car that's
sporty,
> > fun and
> > > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. >
> > (_http://autos.http://autos._
> > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-)
> > > BMW-128-2008/BMW-128-2008/BMW-128-2008/<WBBMW-128-2008/<W>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  ____________  ____  ____  ____  ____  ____
> > > >  Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you
are.
> > > Start  here.
> > > > _http://www.windowslhttp://www.windohttp:_
> > > (http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?)
> > > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ocid=TXT_TAGLM
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go.
Find
> > your travel
> > > deal here.
> > > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?
ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
> > >
> >
> >
>

Sharon,

Are you talking about the CET toothpaste for pets? Pet stores don't sell it,I
believe you can only buy it online or in vets offices.


---- sharnsk <sharnsk@...> wrote:
> Hi Becky,
>
> Yes I use it on my body. It was only after several people approved
> the product before I tried it that way. One was my husband who works
> with chemicals and enzymes like these. This is part of a trial but
> two of us members are continuing the expiriment.
>
> My husband talked with the owner of the company before the trial and
> has been judging my odor. It is expensive and a luxury item for sure
> but the mild mint fragrance seems to give me a nice feeling?? Like
> finally having a scent that doesn't clash.
>
> http://www.pureayre.com/
>
> http://www.petco.com/product/103959/PureAyre-Odor-Eliminator-For-
> Dogs.aspx
>
> If you try it on soft surfaces like rugs, sofa and bedding that has
> had the odor for awhile the spray will work for several hours and
> return. You need to use an injector to get it deep into the rug or
> material to rid it permanently. This applies to any similar product
> you try. That is why people say it only last 6 hours or so.
>
> If you are in a closed area with people you can spray it in the air
> and the mint is so mild that people think someone put a mint in
> their mouth. The small pocket bottle really makes hardly any sound.
> A secret weapon that cleans the air!!
>
> The ingredients are the same whether you buy dog, cat, baby or house
> bottle.
>
> I was also told recently that C.E.T sold in pet stores is the same
> as Chlorhexidine sold as a prescription for humans by dentists for
> mouth odor???
>
>
>
> --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, reb4p@... wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > Do you use Pureayre on your body?
> > Becky
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/14/2008 9:08:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > sharnsk@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It is not a cure because only the diet will give you real relief
> but
> > this product helps when the odor is difficult and gives a
> temporary
> > solution.
> >
> > Since it is made from 100% fruit and vegetable enzymes  and a
> small
> > am't essential mint oil it is said to be safe enough for a  mouth
> > wash if diluted. Due to a Propritary License they do not have to
> > disclose their trade ingredients but I was told it contains Papaya
> > and  Grape enzymes as well as over 100+ others. It's enzyme breaks
> > the bonds of  odor causing molecules inc'l amines, mercaptans ans
> > sulfides.
> >
> > So  read up on Pureayre but don't expect miracles or a cure. Just
> a
> > nice very  mild mint frangrance that can be sprayed anywhere and
> on
> > anything. If you  have been on the conference calls then you know
> > some of the areas I use it  on. Bye the way I have allergies and
> any
> > flower based products like  Fabreeze or Odor Ban give me respitory
> > problems and this does NOT!! Realy  nice to spay in a room if you
> are
> > at work and no one can hear the fine  spray of the small sample
> > bottle. Its your secret weapon.
> >
> > Look for  it at Petco??? Same product but has cute dog picture on
> > bottle.  LOL!!
> >
> > _http://www.pureayrehttp:_ (http://www.pureayre.com/)
> >
> > Intersting  link on it:
> >
> _http://www.stogierehttp://wwhttp://www.http://www.stogihttp://www._
> > (http://www.stogiereview.com/01/22/2007/odor-eliminator-
> comparison/)
> >
> > ---  In _Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> > (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) ,  jessie fleury
> <jessfl@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Please send me some info about this enzyme product if possible,
> i
> > would love to try it.
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  To: Trimethylaminuria@  To: Trimethylaminuria@<WBR>...: sharnsk@
> > +0000Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Becky,This is a new area for me but I am trying  to
> understand
> > the three odor causing molecules, mercaptans, sulfides and  amine
> > based compounds. There has been some testing of a natural enzyme
> > product that will break these odor causing bonds to neutralize
> the
> > odor on surfaces. There are only a few of us expirimenting with it
> > in  various ways but the verdict is still out. The owner of the
> > company has  been wonderful in helping to understand some of
> this.I
> > had an underarm  skunk odor that was diagnosed as a mercaptan by a
> > well known researcher.  In my readings I find it can be in wine
> and
> > cheese. I don't understand it  but I think you may be right about
> the
> > dairy as it makes that odor worse  for me. Bye the way TMAU is an
> > amine odor!! Here is an intersting link.
> > _http://www.infopleahttp://www.http://www.inhttp://_
> > (http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0832739.html---)   In
> > _Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> > (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) ,  reb4p@ wrote:>> I
> think dairy
> > makes me smell like strong cat  urine.> Becky> > > > In a message
> > dated 8/12/2008 9:16:08  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > sharnsk@
> > writes:> > > > >  Can you smell it yourself? Most odor causing
> > molecules are mercaptans,  > sulfides or amine based compounds. I
> > think the cat urine would be a  > Mercaptan?> > If it is than you
> may
> > want to look at the  underarms and breath for a > clue.> > --- In
> > _Trimethylaminuria@_Trimethylaminuri>
> > (mailto:_Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> > (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) )  , "intamissy23" >
> > <intamissy23@int> wrote:> >> >  Hello group mates,> > I'm having
> > trouble trying to figure out what  could possibly be > causing > >
> me
> > to smell like a dirty cat  box.> >> > > > > > > >
> > ************************<WBR>**Looking for a car that's sporty,
> fun and
> > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. >
> (_http://autos.http://autos._
> > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-)
> > BMW-128-2008/BMW-128-2008/BMW-128-2008/<WBBMW-128-2008/<W>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ____________  ____  ____  ____  ____  ____
> > >  Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are.
> > Start  here.
> > > _http://www.windowslhttp://www.windohttp:_
> > (http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?)
> > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ocid=TXT_TAGLM
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find
> your travel
> > deal here.
> > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
> >
>
>

Hi Becky,

Yes I use it on my body. It was only after several people approved
the product before I tried it that way. One was my husband who works
with chemicals and enzymes like these. This is part of a trial but
two of us members are continuing the expiriment.

My husband talked with the owner of the company before the trial and
has been judging my odor. It is expensive and a luxury item for sure
but the mild mint fragrance seems to give me a nice feeling?? Like
finally having a scent that doesn't clash.

http://www.pureayre.com/

http://www.petco.com/product/103959/PureAyre-Odor-Eliminator-For-
Dogs.aspx

If you try it on soft surfaces like rugs, sofa and bedding that has
had the odor for awhile the spray will work for several hours and
return. You need to use an injector to get it deep into the rug or
material to rid it permanently. This applies to any similar product
you try. That is why people say it only last 6 hours or so.

If you are in a closed area with people you can spray it in the air
and the mint is so mild that people think someone put a mint in
their mouth. The small pocket bottle really makes hardly any sound.
A secret weapon that cleans the air!!

The ingredients are the same whether you buy dog, cat, baby or house
bottle.

I was also told recently that C.E.T sold in pet stores is the same
as Chlorhexidine sold as a prescription for humans by dentists for
mouth odor???



--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, reb4p@... wrote:
>
> Hi
> Do you use Pureayre on your body?
> Becky
>
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 9:08:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sharnsk@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> It is not a cure because only the diet will give you real relief
but
> this product helps when the odor is difficult and gives a
temporary
> solution.
>
> Since it is made from 100% fruit and vegetable enzymes  and a
small
> am't essential mint oil it is said to be safe enough for a  mouth
> wash if diluted. Due to a Propritary License they do not have to
> disclose their trade ingredients but I was told it contains Papaya
> and  Grape enzymes as well as over 100+ others. It's enzyme breaks
> the bonds of  odor causing molecules inc'l amines, mercaptans ans
> sulfides.
>
> So  read up on Pureayre but don't expect miracles or a cure. Just
a
> nice very  mild mint frangrance that can be sprayed anywhere and
on
> anything. If you  have been on the conference calls then you know
> some of the areas I use it  on. Bye the way I have allergies and
any
> flower based products like  Fabreeze or Odor Ban give me respitory
> problems and this does NOT!! Realy  nice to spay in a room if you
are
> at work and no one can hear the fine  spray of the small sample
> bottle. Its your secret weapon.
>
> Look for  it at Petco??? Same product but has cute dog picture on
> bottle.  LOL!!
>
> _http://www.pureayrehttp:_ (http://www.pureayre.com/)
>
> Intersting  link on it:
>
_http://www.stogierehttp://wwhttp://www.http://www.stogihttp://www._
> (http://www.stogiereview.com/01/22/2007/odor-eliminator-
comparison/)
>
> ---  In _Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) ,  jessie fleury
<jessfl@>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Please send me some info about this enzyme product if possible,
i
> would love to try it.
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >  To: Trimethylaminuria@  To: Trimethylaminuria@<WBR>...: sharnsk@
> +0000Subject: [Trimethylaminuria] Re: Dirty cat box
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Becky,This is a new area for me but I am trying  to
understand
> the three odor causing molecules, mercaptans, sulfides and  amine
> based compounds. There has been some testing of a natural enzyme
> product that will break these odor causing bonds to neutralize
the
> odor on surfaces. There are only a few of us expirimenting with it
> in  various ways but the verdict is still out. The owner of the
> company has  been wonderful in helping to understand some of
this.I
> had an underarm  skunk odor that was diagnosed as a mercaptan by a
> well known researcher.  In my readings I find it can be in wine
and
> cheese. I don't understand it  but I think you may be right about
the
> dairy as it makes that odor worse  for me. Bye the way TMAU is an
> amine odor!! Here is an intersting link.
> _http://www.infopleahttp://www.http://www.inhttp://_
> (http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0832739.html---)   In
> _Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) ,  reb4p@ wrote:>> I
think dairy
> makes me smell like strong cat  urine.> Becky> > > > In a message
> dated 8/12/2008 9:16:08  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > sharnsk@
> writes:> > > > >  Can you smell it yourself? Most odor causing
> molecules are mercaptans,  > sulfides or amine based compounds. I
> think the cat urine would be a  > Mercaptan?> > If it is than you
may
> want to look at the  underarms and breath for a > clue.> > --- In
> _Trimethylaminuria@_Trimethylaminuri>
> (mailto:_Trimethylaminuria@TrimethylamiTri_
> (mailto:Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com) )  , "intamissy23" >
> <intamissy23@int> wrote:> >> >  Hello group mates,> > I'm having
> trouble trying to figure out what  could possibly be > causing > >
me
> to smell like a dirty cat  box.> >> > > > > > > >
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Just an fyi...If by any chance it was the same it might not have
worked because you have to use it with the therabreath toothpaste and
mouthwash (at least that is what I read), its not a stand alone product.

I hear you on the product claims, but trying it is always worth a shot
for some... I do understand where you are coming from though.

Yes please keep me informed.

Thanks.



--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie" <maggs141@...> wrote:
>
> HI
> No, you could be right, this may be a new product and I could be
> getting it confused with something else.
>
> About 5 or more years ago we had a discussion on the bb site about a
> product called K12 and quite a few members (including me) tried it
> out. I remember it being a real pain using this stuff as you couldn't
> brush your teeth, eat or drink for a few hours before use and a few
> hours after use, so I was having to get up in the morning hours
> before I normally do and didn't get any good results.
>
>  I have sent a post to the bb site asking anyone if they remember
> much about the product. I'm not 100% sure that it the same stuff but
> the name rings a bell and it could have been Katz that promoted it
> and not Rosenberg as I first suggested.
>
>  I remember it being very expensive and not doing much good long
> term. But don't let me put anyone off-it may work for you. I just
> feel I should give input because there are hundreds of products out
> there that claim to cure the worse ever breath odor and once they get
> your money they are laughing. However, I do believe these products
> work for ppl that suffer the occasional bb or bo problems but not
> someone like me.  All oral hygiene products I have used over the
> years have never worked for me long term, the tma smell is constantly
> rearing its ugly head.
>
> I will update you on any response I get from the bb group.
> Maggie +
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "insite7" <dzi9er@>
> wrote:
> >
> > hi...
> > It was my understanding it was new from therabreath. Here is the
> > product endorsement. I have never used it but seems it can only be
> > bought through therabreath.. I could be wrong though:
> >
> > "Only 2% of the worlds population are born with Streptococcus
> > salivarius strain K12. These people hardly ever have bad breath.
> >
> > Recommended treatment schedule is one 30-day cycle every 6 months.
> >
> > Also helps prevent sore throats and tonsillitis.
> >
> > Studies done by Professor John Tagg in New Zealand show a decisive
> > increase in effectiveness when used with AktivOxigen Serum
> >
> > The only method that actually removes, and then replaces the
> > undesireable anaerobic bacteria that cause bad breath. Proven
> > effective in even the most stubborn cases."
> >
> > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie" <maggs141@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > I have also used the K12. It was many years ago and if my memory
> > > serves me correct its one of Professor Mel Rosenberg's products
> from
> > > Israel.  If it is the same product then it didn't help me at
> all.But
> > > thats not to say it wont help someone.
> > > Maggie+
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "insite7" <dzi9er@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > FYI, they have a new product that works with therabreath called
> > > Active
> > > > k12 for really bad cases of BB. Not sure if that might help
> anyone.
> > > >
> > > > Also there was  a product that was recommended to me by one of
> the
> > > > centers that test for TMAU, Dr. Preti, not sure but I think
> there
> > > are
> > > > only 3 centers. I tried to find the email and the doctor
> > > recommended a
> > > > product for BB that he says works very well. George Preti,
> Ph.D. -
> > > > preti@
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps someone.
> > > >
> > > > Heidi
> > > >
> > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "sharnsk" <sharnsk@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Maggie,
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it strange how one product may help some people but not
> > > > > everyone? For the past several months I made my own by mixing
> > > baking
> > > > > soda, glycerine and natural mint extract. It seem to work as
> well
> > > as
> > > > > the others but I developed a tooth pocket which disappeared
> after
> > > > > going back to therabreath.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally if my diet is off and I consume too much
> protein/dairy
> > > I
> > > > > think the odor returns no matter what I do. What do you use
> now
> > > > > Maggie?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sharon+
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie"
> <maggs141@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therabreath didnt help me at all. It was a very expensive
> waste
> > > of
> > > > > > money.
> > > > > > maggie +
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "leenaclue"
> > > <leenaclue@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Interesting.  Therabreath made things worse for me.  But
> I'm
> > > not
> > > > > > sure I
> > > > > > > have TMAU- I could only have BB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "yorogodreamer"
> > > > > > > <yolanda100percent@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I use no toothpaste or mouth rinse. I just brush my
> teeth
> > > and
> > > > > > tongue
> > > > > > > > and then spray TheraBreath PLUS Oral Spray on all sides
> of
> > > my
> > > > > > mouth.
> > > > > > > > It keeps my breath fresh until I eat something. I spray
> > > again
> > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > eating.You can start drinking stuff after 15 minutes of
> > > > > spraying
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > I used to buy the therabreath toothpaste and mouthwash
> but
> > > the
> > > > > > spray
> > > > > > > > is what keeps my breath fresh so I just get that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, Gail VanHecke
> > > > > > <gvhfaith@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone found a of toothpaste and mouth rinse
> which
> > > helps
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > bb?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I think there was another k12 out there called Biss??

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie" <maggs141@...>
wrote:
>
> HI
> No, you could be right, this may be a new product and I could be
> getting it confused with something else.
>
> About 5 or more years ago we had a discussion on the bb site about
a
> product called K12 and quite a few members (including me) tried it
> out. I remember it being a real pain using this stuff as you
couldn't
> brush your teeth, eat or drink for a few hours before use and a
few
> hours after use, so I was having to get up in the morning hours
> before I normally do and didn't get any good results.
>
>  I have sent a post to the bb site asking anyone if they remember
> much about the product. I'm not 100% sure that it the same stuff
but
> the name rings a bell and it could have been Katz that promoted it
> and not Rosenberg as I first suggested.
>
>  I remember it being very expensive and not doing much good long
> term. But don't let me put anyone off-it may work for you. I just
> feel I should give input because there are hundreds of products
out
> there that claim to cure the worse ever breath odor and once they
get
> your money they are laughing. However, I do believe these products
> work for ppl that suffer the occasional bb or bo problems but not
> someone like me.  All oral hygiene products I have used over the
> years have never worked for me long term, the tma smell is
constantly
> rearing its ugly head.
>
> I will update you on any response I get from the bb group.
> Maggie +
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "insite7" <dzi9er@>
> wrote:
> >
> > hi...
> > It was my understanding it was new from therabreath. Here is the
> > product endorsement. I have never used it but seems it can only
be
> > bought through therabreath.. I could be wrong though:
> >
> > "Only 2% of the worlds population are born with Streptococcus
> > salivarius strain K12. These people hardly ever have bad breath.
> >
> > Recommended treatment schedule is one 30-day cycle every 6
months.
> >
> > Also helps prevent sore throats and tonsillitis.
> >
> > Studies done by Professor John Tagg in New Zealand show a
decisive
> > increase in effectiveness when used with AktivOxigen Serum
> >
> > The only method that actually removes, and then replaces the
> > undesireable anaerobic bacteria that cause bad breath. Proven
> > effective in even the most stubborn cases."
> >
> > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie" <maggs141@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > I have also used the K12. It was many years ago and if my
memory
> > > serves me correct its one of Professor Mel Rosenberg's
products
> from
> > > Israel.  If it is the same product then it didn't help me at
> all.But
> > > thats not to say it wont help someone.
> > > Maggie+
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "insite7" <dzi9er@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > FYI, they have a new product that works with therabreath
called
> > > Active
> > > > k12 for really bad cases of BB. Not sure if that might help
> anyone.
> > > >
> > > > Also there was  a product that was recommended to me by one
of
> the
> > > > centers that test for TMAU, Dr. Preti, not sure but I think
> there
> > > are
> > > > only 3 centers. I tried to find the email and the doctor
> > > recommended a
> > > > product for BB that he says works very well. George Preti,
> Ph.D. -
> > > > preti@
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps someone.
> > > >
> > > > Heidi
> > > >
> > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "sharnsk"
<sharnsk@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Maggie,
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it strange how one product may help some people but
not
> > > > > everyone? For the past several months I made my own by
mixing
> > > baking
> > > > > soda, glycerine and natural mint extract. It seem to work
as
> well
> > > as
> > > > > the others but I developed a tooth pocket which
disappeared
> after
> > > > > going back to therabreath.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally if my diet is off and I consume too much
> protein/dairy
> > > I
> > > > > think the odor returns no matter what I do. What do you
use
> now
> > > > > Maggie?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sharon+
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie"
> <maggs141@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therabreath didnt help me at all. It was a very
expensive
> waste
> > > of
> > > > > > money.
> > > > > > maggie +
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "leenaclue"
> > > <leenaclue@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Interesting.  Therabreath made things worse for me.
But
> I'm
> > > not
> > > > > > sure I
> > > > > > > have TMAU- I could only have BB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "yorogodreamer"
> > > > > > > <yolanda100percent@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I use no toothpaste or mouth rinse. I just brush my
> teeth
> > > and
> > > > > > tongue
> > > > > > > > and then spray TheraBreath PLUS Oral Spray on all
sides
> of
> > > my
> > > > > > mouth.
> > > > > > > > It keeps my breath fresh until I eat something. I
spray
> > > again
> > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > eating.You can start drinking stuff after 15 minutes
of
> > > > > spraying
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > I used to buy the therabreath toothpaste and
mouthwash
> but
> > > the
> > > > > > spray
> > > > > > > > is what keeps my breath fresh so I just get that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, Gail
VanHecke
> > > > > > <gvhfaith@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone found a of toothpaste and mouth rinse
> which
> > > helps
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > bb?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

You probably know that Susan Tjoa, who did the test, passed away. They
hired a new person and he has begun the catching up phase.

Will try and find a number for you as the current contact number is
wrong.

Sharon+

--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "mgcg127919" <mgcg127919@...>
wrote:
>
> Has anybody heard of an update on testing at Colorado?  It's been
since
> May that I sent in my sample.  Is all testing still halted?
> Thanks
>

Has anybody heard of an update on testing at Colorado?  It's been since
May that I sent in my sample.  Is all testing still halted?
Thanks

HI
No, you could be right, this may be a new product and I could be
getting it confused with something else.

About 5 or more years ago we had a discussion on the bb site about a
product called K12 and quite a few members (including me) tried it
out. I remember it being a real pain using this stuff as you couldn't
brush your teeth, eat or drink for a few hours before use and a few
hours after use, so I was having to get up in the morning hours
before I normally do and didn't get any good results.

  I have sent a post to the bb site asking anyone if they remember
much about the product. I'm not 100% sure that it the same stuff but
the name rings a bell and it could have been Katz that promoted it
and not Rosenberg as I first suggested.

  I remember it being very expensive and not doing much good long
term. But don't let me put anyone off-it may work for you. I just
feel I should give input because there are hundreds of products out
there that claim to cure the worse ever breath odor and once they get
your money they are laughing. However, I do believe these products
work for ppl that suffer the occasional bb or bo problems but not
someone like me.  All oral hygiene products I have used over the
years have never worked for me long term, the tma smell is constantly
rearing its ugly head.

I will update you on any response I get from the bb group.
Maggie +






--- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "insite7" <dzi9er@...>
wrote:
>
> hi...
> It was my understanding it was new from therabreath. Here is the
> product endorsement. I have never used it but seems it can only be
> bought through therabreath.. I could be wrong though:
>
> "Only 2% of the worlds population are born with Streptococcus
> salivarius strain K12. These people hardly ever have bad breath.
>
> Recommended treatment schedule is one 30-day cycle every 6 months.
>
> Also helps prevent sore throats and tonsillitis.
>
> Studies done by Professor John Tagg in New Zealand show a decisive
> increase in effectiveness when used with AktivOxigen Serum
>
> The only method that actually removes, and then replaces the
> undesireable anaerobic bacteria that cause bad breath. Proven
> effective in even the most stubborn cases."
>
> --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie" <maggs141@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> > I have also used the K12. It was many years ago and if my memory
> > serves me correct its one of Professor Mel Rosenberg's products
from
> > Israel.  If it is the same product then it didn't help me at
all.But
> > thats not to say it wont help someone.
> > Maggie+
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "insite7" <dzi9er@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > FYI, they have a new product that works with therabreath called
> > Active
> > > k12 for really bad cases of BB. Not sure if that might help
anyone.
> > >
> > > Also there was  a product that was recommended to me by one of
the
> > > centers that test for TMAU, Dr. Preti, not sure but I think
there
> > are
> > > only 3 centers. I tried to find the email and the doctor
> > recommended a
> > > product for BB that he says works very well. George Preti,
Ph.D. -
> > > preti@
> > >
> > > Hope that helps someone.
> > >
> > > Heidi
> > >
> > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "sharnsk" <sharnsk@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Maggie,
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it strange how one product may help some people but not
> > > > everyone? For the past several months I made my own by mixing
> > baking
> > > > soda, glycerine and natural mint extract. It seem to work as
well
> > as
> > > > the others but I developed a tooth pocket which disappeared
after
> > > > going back to therabreath.
> > > >
> > > > Personally if my diet is off and I consume too much
protein/dairy
> > I
> > > > think the odor returns no matter what I do. What do you use
now
> > > > Maggie?
> > > >
> > > > Sharon+
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "maggie"
<maggs141@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Therabreath didnt help me at all. It was a very expensive
waste
> > of
> > > > > money.
> > > > > maggie +
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "leenaclue"
> > <leenaclue@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Interesting.  Therabreath made things worse for me.  But
I'm
> > not
> > > > > sure I
> > > > > > have TMAU- I could only have BB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, "yorogodreamer"
> > > > > > <yolanda100percent@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I use no toothpaste or mouth rinse. I just brush my
teeth
> > and
> > > > > tongue
> > > > > > > and then spray TheraBreath PLUS Oral Spray on all sides
of
> > my
> > > > > mouth.
> > > > > > > It keeps my breath fresh until I eat something. I spray
> > again
> > > > > after
> > > > > > > eating.You can start drinking stuff after 15 minutes of
> > > > spraying
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > I used to buy the therabreath toothpaste and mouthwash
but
> > the
> > > > > spray
> > > > > > > is what keeps my breath fresh so I just get that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Trimethylaminuria@yahoogroups.com, Gail VanHecke
> > > > > <gvhfaith@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Has anyone found a of toothpaste and mouth rinse
which
> > helps
> > > > > with
> > > > > > bb?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>