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#2107 From: "josweetjo_99" <josweetjo_99@...>
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2008 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration
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Laurie –

I totally understand the anxiety about the FNA.  I've had multiple
FNA and in fact I get one every six months.  I can assure you that
it's not as painful as you think.  You are correct they do not use
any anesthesia but if you ask your doctor they might prescribe
something that will calm your nerves.  I'll give you the step by
step of what they did in my situation.  Realize that this might
differ from your experience.  They have you get into a gown and lay
you on the x-ray table.  They roll up towels and place them behind
your neck so that your neck area is exposed.  They may even move the
x-ray table to where your feet are in the air and your head is
towards the floor.  They will start by cleaning and disinfecting the
neck area and they will use the ultrasound machine to find the exact
place to biopsy.  When the needle goes in it will feel exactly like
getting your blood drawn.  You will feel that choking sensation and
a bit of pressure.  The only thing that bothered me was the scraping
sensation from the needle.  They need to get enough cells!  Realize
that you not only have the needle in your neck but the doc is using
the ultrasound machine to guide him to the right areas.  It's
uncomfortable but not painful.  You can't see a thing…not even the
needle!  As soon as the doc has enough cells he has what's called
a "runner" who takes it down to the lab to make sure they have
enough material for testing.  If not…ya gotta do it again.  This
doesn't happen too often.  Results are given within 3 days.  If I'm
not mistaken some hospitals can pick-up cancer cells immediately and
can have results in a day.  Just ask when your FNA is over about how
long it will take.  After the FNA I had what looked like a zit on my
lower neck area.  I didn't have any bruising but it was tender to
the touch for about a day.  No biggie!

I have 2 nodules and tons of tiny ones on my thyroid glad.  I do not
have cancer!  In most cases the nodules are not cancerous.  Best of
luck to you!  Only 5 more days!!

If you have any additional questions let me know.

Johanna








--- In ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com, webpoet1@... wrote:
>
>
> On April 8th, I will be undergoing an ultrasound guided?FNA (fine
needle aspiration) of some thyroid nodules that I have.
> They will only be doing a biopsy on one of the nodules: 3 of the 4
are only cysts, and they are not interested in those: but will be
biopsying the one that is "a complex mass inside a cyst": as that is
more likely to be malignant, although the chances are still low.
>
> I have a couple of questions: how painful will it be, really?
Apparently they will not be using any
> anesthesia: because sometimes using anesthesia can cause blood in
the results and interfere with reading them. Will it compare to,
say, the pain of a shot? Or worse?
>
> And since it is ultrasound guided: am I going to have a lot of
the "choky feeling" that
> I had when they did the original ultrasound? I felt really choky
both by lying on my back,
> and also from the ultrasound pressing down on my thyroid.
>
> Finally, when do they usually report on the results? Will there be
some preliminary results,
> or will it take: a couple days? Or a week? Or what? And if I don't
hear back in a couple days is this "good news", meaning that
preliminarily it didn't look malignant?
>
> I am feeling very worried about this: because my partner is a 3
year breast cancer survivor,
> my mother is a 15 year colon cancer survivor, and before my DAd
passed away at 86 of other causes, he had had the beginnings of
multiple myeloma: a bone cancer (of course, he was a lifelong hobby
> photographer at a time when this meant having?a home darkroom with
many chemicals,
> and was also, by profession, a chemist: so this may have been
environmental).? No genetic link with my partner of course: but
still it reminds me that these things can happen.
>
> In the meantime until I find out, will try to keep positive and
realize that cancer is unusual and these nodules are very common.
>
> Laurie
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#2106 From: "Donna B" <berry_berrybad@...>
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:37 am
Subject: RE: [ThyroidDisease] Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration
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I had the FNA and it was painless. I had no medication beforehand - they
just do an ultrasound while placing the needle in your neck area. You will
feel 'pressure' but no pain.

Good luck with it.



Donna



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[mailto:ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dottie H
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 11:57 PM
To: thyroiddisease2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ThyroidDisease] Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration




I had a FNA two years ago. They gave me conscious sedation. I slept right
through it. I had no pain. I did have to go to a room and keep an icepack on
it for a couple of hours before they let me go home. I hope this helps.

To: ThyroidDisease2@...
<mailto:ThyroidDisease2%40yahoogroups.comFrom> : webpoet1@...
<mailto:webpoet1%40aol.comDate> : Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:27:17 -0400Subject:
[ThyroidDisease] Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration

On April 8th, I will be undergoing an ultrasound guided?FNA (fine needle
aspiration) of some thyroid nodules that I have.They will only be doing a
biopsy on one of the nodules: 3 of the 4 are only cysts, and they are not
interested in those: but will be biopsying the one that is "a complex mass
inside a cyst": as that is more likely to be malignant, although the chances
are still low. I have a couple of questions: how painful will it be, really?
Apparently they will not be using anyanesthesia: because sometimes using
anesthesia can cause blood in the results and interfere with reading them.
Will it compare to, say, the pain of a shot? Or worse?And since it is
ultrasound guided: am I going to have a lot of the "choky feeling" thatI had
when they did the original ultrasound? I felt really choky both by lying on
my back,and also from the ultrasound pressing down on my thyroid. Finally,
when do they usually report on the results? Will there be some preliminary
results,or will it take: a couple days? Or a week? Or what? And if I don't
hear back in a couple days is this "good news", meaning that preliminarily
it didn't look malignant? I am feeling very worried about this: because my
partner is a 3 year breast cancer survivor,my mother is a 15 year colon
cancer survivor, and before my DAd passed away at 86 of other causes, he had
had the beginnings of multiple myeloma: a bone cancer (of course, he was a
lifelong hobby photographer at a time when this meant having?a home darkroom
with many chemicals,and was also, by profession, a chemist: so this may have
been environmental).? No genetic link with my partner of course: but still
it reminds me that these things can happen.In the meantime until I find out,
will try to keep positive and realize that cancer is unusual and these
nodules are very common.Laurie[Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]

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#2105 From: Dawn Dingeldein <spiritsk@...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [ThyroidDisease] Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration
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I have had the ultraaound but not needle aspiration.

I hope you get the results you want.

Dawn
--- webpoet1@... wrote:

>
> On April 8th, I will be undergoing an ultrasound
> guided?FNA (fine needle aspiration) of some thyroid
> nodules that I have.
> They will only be doing a biopsy on one of the
> nodules: 3 of the 4 are only cysts, and they are not
> interested in those: but will be biopsying the one
> that is "a complex mass inside a cyst": as that is
> more likely to be malignant, although the chances
> are still low.
>
> I have a couple of questions: how painful will it
> be, really? Apparently they will not be using any
> anesthesia: because sometimes using anesthesia can
> cause blood in the results and interfere with
> reading them. Will it compare to, say, the pain of a
> shot? Or worse?
>
> And since it is ultrasound guided: am I going to
> have a lot of the "choky feeling" that
> I had when they did the original ultrasound? I felt
> really choky both by lying on my back,
> and also from the ultrasound pressing down on my
> thyroid.
>
> Finally, when do they usually report on the results?
> Will there be some preliminary results,
> or will it take: a couple days? Or a week? Or what?
> And if I don't hear back in a couple days is this
> "good news", meaning that preliminarily it didn't
> look malignant?
>
> I am feeling very worried about this: because my
> partner is a 3 year breast cancer survivor,
> my mother is a 15 year colon cancer survivor, and
> before my DAd passed away at 86 of other causes, he
> had had the beginnings of multiple myeloma: a bone
> cancer (of course, he was a lifelong hobby
> photographer at a time when this meant having?a home
> darkroom with many chemicals,
> and was also, by profession, a chemist: so this may
> have been environmental).? No genetic link with my
> partner of course: but still it reminds me that
> these things can happen.
>
> In the meantime until I find out, will try to keep
> positive and realize that cancer is unusual and
> these nodules are very common.
>
> Laurie
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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#2104 From: Dottie H <dottie_123@...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:57 pm
Subject: RE: [ThyroidDisease] Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration
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I had a FNA two years ago.  They gave me conscious sedation.  I slept right
through it.  I had no pain.  I did have to go to a room and keep an icepack on
it for a couple of hours before they let me go home.  I hope this helps.


To: ThyroidDisease2@...: webpoet1@...: Wed, 26 Mar 2008
09:27:17 -0400Subject: [ThyroidDisease] Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration




On April 8th, I will be undergoing an ultrasound guided?FNA (fine needle
aspiration) of some thyroid nodules that I have.They will only be doing a biopsy
on one of the nodules: 3 of the 4 are only cysts, and they are not interested in
those: but will be biopsying the one that is "a complex mass inside a cyst": as
that is more likely to be malignant, although the chances are still low. I have
a couple of questions: how painful will it be, really? Apparently they will not
be using anyanesthesia: because sometimes using anesthesia can cause blood in
the results and interfere with reading them. Will it compare to, say, the pain
of a shot? Or worse?And since it is ultrasound guided: am I going to have a lot
of the "choky feeling" thatI had when they did the original ultrasound? I felt
really choky both by lying on my back,and also from the ultrasound pressing down
on my thyroid. Finally, when do they usually report on the results? Will there
be some preliminary results,or will it take: a couple days? Or a week? Or what?
And if I don't hear back in a couple days is this "good news", meaning that
preliminarily it didn't look malignant? I am feeling very worried about this:
because my partner is a 3 year breast cancer survivor,my mother is a 15 year
colon cancer survivor, and before my DAd passed away at 86 of other causes, he
had had the beginnings of multiple myeloma: a bone cancer (of course, he was a
lifelong hobby photographer at a time when this meant having?a home darkroom
with many chemicals,and was also, by profession, a chemist: so this may have
been environmental).? No genetic link with my partner of course: but still it
reminds me that these things can happen.In the meantime until I find out, will
try to keep positive and realize that cancer is unusual and these nodules are
very common.Laurie[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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#2103 From: webpoet1@...
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Thyroid nodules: FNA aspiration
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On April 8th, I will be undergoing an ultrasound guided?FNA (fine needle
aspiration) of some thyroid nodules that I have.
They will only be doing a biopsy on one of the nodules: 3 of the 4 are only
cysts, and they are not interested in those: but will be biopsying the one that
is "a complex mass inside a cyst": as that is more likely to be malignant,
although the chances are still low.

I have a couple of questions: how painful will it be, really? Apparently they
will not be using any
anesthesia: because sometimes using anesthesia can cause blood in the results
and interfere with reading them. Will it compare to, say, the pain of a shot? Or
worse?

And since it is ultrasound guided: am I going to have a lot of the "choky
feeling" that
I had when they did the original ultrasound? I felt really choky both by lying
on my back,
and also from the ultrasound pressing down on my thyroid.

Finally, when do they usually report on the results? Will there be some
preliminary results,
or will it take: a couple days? Or a week? Or what? And if I don't hear back in
a couple days is this "good news", meaning that preliminarily it didn't look
malignant?

I am feeling very worried about this: because my partner is a 3 year breast
cancer survivor,
my mother is a 15 year colon cancer survivor, and before my DAd passed away at
86 of other causes, he had had the beginnings of multiple myeloma: a bone cancer
(of course, he was a lifelong hobby
photographer at a time when this meant having?a home darkroom with many
chemicals,
and was also, by profession, a chemist: so this may have been environmental).?
No genetic link with my partner of course: but still it reminds me that these
things can happen.

In the meantime until I find out, will try to keep positive and realize that
cancer is unusual and these nodules are very common.

Laurie



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#2102 From: "WANDA BRIDGEMAN" <peacefrogsribbett@...>
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: Going overseas and won't have Synthroid...any suggestions?
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--- In ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <tacopeland02@...> wrote:
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> Greetings.  I'm in the military and am going overseas for a year.
The
> place I am going to has limited medical facilities and I will not be
> able to get the Synthroid I need.  I am hypothyroid and currently
have
> some, but will run out.  My clinic will not support me by giving me
> enough for my deployment.  So...does anyone have any suggestions as
to
> what I could do?  I appreciate any and all suggestions.  Thank you.
>
> Tim C.
>
have them give you enough samples to last you    thats what my doctor
does.  It can be done

#2101 From: "Tim" <tacopeland02@...>
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:45 am
Subject: Going overseas and won't have Synthroid...any suggestions?
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Greetings.  I'm in the military and am going overseas for a year.  The
place I am going to has limited medical facilities and I will not be
able to get the Synthroid I need.  I am hypothyroid and currently have
some, but will run out.  My clinic will not support me by giving me
enough for my deployment.  So...does anyone have any suggestions as to
what I could do?  I appreciate any and all suggestions.  Thank you.

Tim C.

#2100 From: "matchboefriends" <matchboefriends@...>
Date: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:10 am
Subject: You have received a NEW friend request!
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#2099 From: "John Vos" <vos@...>
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2008 9:31 am
Subject: Re: Dr. John Vos...I second his post! YES!
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Please read all the information Mike Adams brings out.
Your doctor may kill you in the interest of his wallet.

Go to: http://www.naturalnews.com/021967.html

It is important for YOU, not for me, so do not harm yourself and your
family because your doctor is incapable to help you.

#2098 From: "John Vos" <vos@...>
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He has saved many lives.
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#2097 From: "Laurie" <webpoet1@...>
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2008 9:00 am
Subject: Worried about Thyroid Nodules
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I am a new member. On February 2nd, I broke my ankle: they xrayed not
only my ankle, but also my neck (to make sure there was no injury):
my neck was fine: but they "incidentally" noticed on the xray that I
had thyroid nodules, something I had not been aware of since there
was no lump that could be felt.

I had an ultrasound last week: and they found 4 nodules. 3 are cysts,
but one is a combination of cyst and solid "complex mass". Now they
want to do either a needle biopsy, or a scan with radiation.
The scan with radiation would require being off work an additional
day (I have already taken 3 weeks off from work due to my ankle) plus
I would have to live in a motel for a day: we have 3 cats: I have
been told that the radiation from this test is dangerous to small
children and animals: there is absolutely no way to keep the cats
away from me other than using a squirt bottle, which would probably
permanently convince them that I no longer loved them.

So am hoping they do the needle biopsy, which I think is only a few
minutes.
they will also do a T3, T4 and TSH bloodwork.

I am very worried that this could be thyroid cancer,although have
been told that the majority of these nodules, even if there is a
solid component, are not. But that if it is, most thyroid cancer is
very treatable.

Has anyone had experience with these kinds of nodules?

I am very worried about this since my partner is a 3 year breast
cancer survivor: so we are a little "gun shy" right now.

Also: would thyroid nodules cause the following symptoms?
For about the past 5 to 10 years, I have found that I am
uncomfortable sleeping on my back: I feel sort of choky and
uncomfortable: so am a definite side sleeper: canot sleep on my back
at all. Also for the past 2 years I have had a slight degree of what
they call reverse aspiration: that is, occasionally a small amount of
food or drink (or even saliva, if I have not been eating or drinking)
will come back up and I will cough it up. I had a barium swallow last
year, and they found nothing abnormal so just said they didn't know
why this was happening: might be aging (I am almost 50). In addition,
when I drink a beverage especially a soda, I have a little bit of
coughing and drainage. Could this all be caused by thyroid nodules?
If so, why werent' these detected last year on the barium swallow?
And why weren't they seen when, in 2005, I had a carotid ultrasound
in order to diagnose a problem with my eyes? Or maybe it was
seen "incidentally" but not commented on becuase it didn't related to
the main focus of the ultransound?

I will probably have the tests after March 13th: because right now
due to my ankle injury I am not allowed to bear weight on that leg so
am temporarily using a walker/unable to drive. Any information that
you can give me that can help me feel more relaxed between now and
then will help.

Laurie

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Date: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:09 am
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#2095 From: AnnMarie <womanly20032003@...>
Date: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: [ThyroidDisease] Re:Anyone on this board anymore?
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You either get on a list with too much activity or you get on a list with little
activity
   like here.  Its hard to find an inbetween group,.

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Dawn Dingeldein <spiritsk@...> wrote:
           I have been busy. My work schedule is nuts lately.

Dawn
--- Kate <Fraserk@...> wrote:

> Yes some are still here. There has been too much
> spam which is a real shame....There are a lot of
> well-informed, helpful people here.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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#2094 From: Dawn Dingeldein <spiritsk@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: [ThyroidDisease] Re:Anyone on this board anymore?
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I have been busy.  My work schedule is nuts lately.

Dawn
--- Kate <Fraserk@...> wrote:

> Yes some are still here.  There has been too much
> spam which is a real shame....There are a lot of
> well-informed, helpful people here.
>
>
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> removed]
>
>


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#2093 From: "Kate" <Fraserk@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:10 pm
Subject: Re:Anyone on this board anymore?
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#2092 From: "Amelia" <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:17 pm
Subject: Anyone on this board anymore?
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Just wondering....
I've started a new board for anyone interested in healing.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/totalhealth2008

Come join us.
~Amy~
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#2090 From: "Nicki" <g.nicki@...>
Date: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: The End of Expenses!
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--- In ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com, "Emily Royster"
<emilyroyster@...> wrote:
>
> Recently, I shared my wonderful experiences about the sampler
program being
> offered at http://savingsystems.org I must ask that people stop
emailing me
> and thanking me for the tip. My mailbox is constantly overflowing.
I am receiving
> a couple of hundred emails per day from people that joined the
program and
> are now saving huge amounts of cash. many others are sending me
their register
> receipts as attachments showing their savings. I know how much you
can save
> because I am part of this program. You are all very welcome there
is no need
> to email me and thank me. I am very happy to have been able to help
and I hope
> all of you will take time to share great tips with the rest of us!
>
> Emily
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#2089 From: "Emily Royster" <emilyroyster@...>
Date: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: The End of Expenses!
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Recently, I shared my wonderful experiences about the sampler program being
offered at http://savingsystems.org I must ask that people stop emailing me
and thanking me for the tip. My mailbox is constantly overflowing. I am
receiving
a couple of hundred emails per day from people that joined the program and
are now saving huge amounts of cash. many others are sending me their register
receipts as attachments showing their savings. I know how much you can save
because I am part of this program. You are all very welcome there is no need
to email me and thank me. I am very happy to have been able to help and I hope
all of you will take time to share great tips with the rest of us!

Emily



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#2088 From: "Amelia" <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...>
Date: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:09 pm
Subject: Total Health 2008
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I have opened a new board in yahoo:
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it is based on the premise that the food we eat can either kill us and
damage our health in the process or re-establish balance in the
physical body.

Come join us for a weekly and daily support to your health concerns.

Be well...
~Amy~
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#2087 From: "Amelia" <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...>
Date: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: The Loophole That Is Saving People Financially!
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Do the coupons work for fresh veggies and fruits?
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--- In ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com, "jestinjennifer"
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> Re: The Loophole That Is Saving People Financially!
>
> Yes, Pam, I have also been a member of ths company's sampler program
> since the mid 1980s. I agree with you 100% that this is the best
> program to save a lot of money of just about every expense. I copied
> the original post that I read last week.
>
> [original post by Vicki G]
> As amazing as it may sound many people do not realize how easy it is
> to LEGALLY stop paying for their groceries! This is how the one hour
> television show began for the company whose website is at:
> http://savingsystems.org I thought it was very interesting and
> decided to check it out. I am very skeptical by nature so the first
> thing I did was check out the company. I contacted the Better
> Business Bureau and found that the company has had no complaints
> lodged against them, I also contacted Paypal who has verified this
> company. They told me that they verified the company's licenses,
bank
> accounts and other paperwork indicating to them that the company is
> legitimate. Then I started asking co-workers and friends about this
> program and to my surprise 6 out of the 10 people that I spoke with
> were already using this program. They told me how pleased they were
> with it and how much money they had saved and are currently saving.
> So I decided to sign up for this program on 12/20/07. On 12/27/07 I
> received my complete sampler membership package and the fun began.
> Using their program and the free lifetime membership that it
includes
> I went to the supermarket ready to make a killing. The cashier rang
> up my grocery bill and it came out to $239.87 then I presented her
> with the coupons I received from this program and I saved $223.38 -
> my final bill was only $16.49! The cashier wasn't the only one
> shocked. This program has changed my life!!!
>

#2086 From: "jestinjennifer" <jestinjennifer@...>
Date: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: The Loophole That Is Saving People Financially!
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Re: The Loophole That Is Saving People Financially!

Yes, Pam, I have also been a member of ths company's sampler program
since the mid 1980s. I agree with you 100% that this is the best
program to save a lot of money of just about every expense. I copied
the original post that I read last week.

[original post by Vicki G]
As amazing as it may sound many people do not realize how easy it is
to LEGALLY stop paying for their groceries! This is how the one hour
television show began for the company whose website is at:
http://savingsystems.org I thought it was very interesting and
decided to check it out. I am very skeptical by nature so the first
thing I did was check out the company. I contacted the Better
Business Bureau and found that the company has had no complaints
lodged against them, I also contacted Paypal who has verified this
company. They told me that they verified the company's licenses, bank
accounts and other paperwork indicating to them that the company is
legitimate. Then I started asking co-workers and friends about this
program and to my surprise 6 out of the 10 people that I spoke with
were already using this program. They told me how pleased they were
with it and how much money they had saved and are currently saving.
So I decided to sign up for this program on 12/20/07. On 12/27/07 I
received my complete sampler membership package and the fun began.
Using their program and the free lifetime membership that it includes
I went to the supermarket ready to make a killing. The cashier rang
up my grocery bill and it came out to $239.87 then I presented her
with the coupons I received from this program and I saved $223.38 -
my final bill was only $16.49! The cashier wasn't the only one
shocked. This program has changed my life!!!

#2085 From: "matcharwfriends" <matcharwfriends@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:45 am
Subject: I have added you to my friends network today!
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#2084 From: "Amelia" <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:38 pm
Subject: Simple Question about antibodies for everyone
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Ok I have been thinking about "anti-bodies"..tell me if what I'm
thinking is "correct".

ASSUME a thyroid gland has mercury IN IT ( lodged in the tissues).
Mercury is foreign to the body.  The body develops anti-bodies and
attacks the thyroid wanting to rid the thyroid and body of the foreign
mercury.  This would make anti-bodies HIGH..correct? And int he process
it would probably do some damage to the thyroid gland correct?

So wouldn't it make sense to see WHY the anti-bodies are attacking the
thyroid gland..what is it about the gland that is causing the body to
actually have a NORMAL response to something foreign by attacking it to
try and get rid of the mercury???

Comments? help me figure this out :-)

I take my heavy metal mercury test tomorrow.

Be well....
~Amy~

#2083 From: "chgds4" <chgds4@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:26 am
Subject: Thryoid Test Results
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I am a male age 63.
In early November my Thyroid Test Results were: FT4=.69, TSH=1.29.
Last week a retest showed: FT4=0.57, TSH=1.55.
The doctor stated it was normal. Within the acceptable lab range.
I am cold, going to a specialist for chronic severe constipation this
week, which I think is a waste of my time and money. I think it is a
result of the what I think is low thyroid hormone.  BUT the pituitary
is not telling the thyroid to ramp up. I guess my doctor is a primary
care physican that will not treat unless the lab results are
highlighted as out of their range.  Anyone else have this type of
readings???

#2082 From: Dottie H <dottie_123@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 12:06 am
Subject: RE: [ThyroidDisease] Hi Dottie
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Thanks for the reply.  I feel pretty good most of the time as long as I eat
right and exercise.  I did not have cancer.  I have Hashimoto's.  My numbers
were off the charts.  They could not shrink my thyroid with meds, so I had it
removed.  By the time they got it out, I could not swallow and could barely
breath.  I do eat  a lot of fish.  I maybe better rethink that.  Auto immune
diseases run in my family.  That is why I have always been so diligent about my
health.

Good luck to you!


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Sun, 6 Jan 2008 05:02:28 +0000Subject: [ThyroidDisease] Hi Dottie




Thank goodness you ARE a health nut, otherwise your condition may have been far
worse.It is hard to say what is "right" for a person to be doing. We are very
complex animals when you get right down to it and we're all so very different.I
wonder if mercury poisoning has a "play" in why you got sick with Hashimoto's.
Dr. Lou believes that mercury is now in our food chain in the United States. he
advises his cancer patients to STOP EATING ANY KIND OF TUNA, PERIOD!I also
TOTALLY agree with you 10000000% that stress could have caused this illness. I
do not think we know what damage stress can do to a body...STRESS causes free
radicals in the body and free radicals weaken an immune system..a weakened
immune system ALLOWS dis-ease to occur. So....How do you feel today?~Amy~> > > >
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#2081 From: "Amelia" <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:02 am
Subject: Hi Dottie
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Thank goodness you ARE a health nut, otherwise your condition may
have been far worse.
It is hard to say what is "right" for a person to be doing.  We are
very complex animals when you get right down to it and we're all so
very different.
I wonder if mercury poisoning has a "play" in why you got sick with
Hashimoto's. Dr. Lou believes that mercury is now in our food chain
in the United States.  he advises his cancer patients to STOP EATING
ANY KIND OF TUNA, PERIOD!
I also TOTALLY agree with you 10000000% that stress could have caused
this illness.  I do not think we know what damage stress can do to a
body...STRESS causes free radicals in the body and free radicals
weaken an immune system..a weakened immune system ALLOWS dis-ease to
occur.  So....

How do you feel today?

~Amy~




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#2080 From: "Amelia" <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:56 am
Subject: HI Dawn
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Hi Dawn :-)
You're making good strides from what I read in your last e-mail.
IF you're ready to do more, we'll talk.
As far as your girls go...this is not a change just YOU need to be
making it is something THEY need to make as well.  Kids adjust rather
quickly when mom and or dad or better, both, say "ok this is what
we're doing to be as healthy as we can be."  KIDS are in greater need
maybe than adults in eating healthy and forming good habits now when
they are young.
Also I hear the "excuse" about time.
I say that because I myself use it as well.  And it is an excuse.
One day do you want to look back and say "I didn't make the time to
eat healthy and so my family got cancer and died."  I know a bit
drastic BUT you have to ask yourself the question..where are my
priorities?  I have 5 kids and run 3 businesses..I know about time
constraints but I have also learned that i won't be around to do any
of those things if I don't take my health seriously right now today.

IT IS NOT EASY in today's society..so you need to gather your support
team and do it anyway.

Just a side note...
just as SUGAR depleates your immune system as soon as you ingest
it...animal protein AGES you as soon as you eat it. :-(  Sad but very
true.

Be well....
~Amy~

#2079 From: Dottie H <dottie_123@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:04 am
Subject: RE: [ThyroidDisease] Dottie something to ponder
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Amy,

I totally agree about proper diet.  The strange (or should I say one of the
strange things) thing about my case is that I am a health nut.  I eat veggies,
lean meat, chicken, fish, and plenty of fruit.  No sodas.  I drink water, tea
and skim milk.   I do yoga, aerobics and walk.  I got sick anyway.  I was having
quite a bit of trouble with a rebellious (I hope I spelled that right) and I can
not help but think that stress may have caused my hashis.  I guess I will never
know for sure.   But certainly eating properly and exercise are keys to well
being.

God bless you all!!


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Sat, 5 Jan 2008 04:56:53 +0000Subject: [ThyroidDisease] Dottie something to
ponder




I don't think it wise to sit around waiting on "someone" to tell you your sick.
Or to give you a degree of which you are sick..cancer, no cancer...PREVENTION is
key in this world we live in today.I'm really happy you feel you have an endo
you can trust with your life. Because half of the battle in trying to heal
ourselves is finding someone you trust with your life. A large majority of MD's
whether endos or surgeons have been trained in REACTIONARY medicine...not in
prevention. They have no idea how to treat someone who is looking to totally
heal from an illness...not because they don't care but because they are not
trained in that area.The health care in this country is whacked at best.Our food
is starving us...we are a country of malnurished sick people.You know why we are
overweight in this country? because we are starving...yeah I know sounds like a
joke..it's not..anyone who has tried to lose weight knows...that if you are not
eating enough of the "right" foods your body thinks it is starving and will hold
on to the fat at all costs!We have to wake up or we're all going to die a
premature death.Here's a question I was asking my children and husband at dinner
this evening ( kids are 21, 19, 17, 15 and 11)...what is going to happen to the
generation of kids Tristan's age ( my youngest at 11) when all they've known is
fast food, processed food, and preservatives? It's no wonder we see kids with
illnesses that 30 years ago were only known to ADULTS! We are living in a time
where the children are DIEING BEFORE THEIR PARENTS! That is very scary.It is
going to take a huge group of educated and informed people to make the changes
happen...in the meantime I have a greenhouse on order and I am opening a CAFE
sometime this year that will actually FEED THE PEOPLE.Be well...~Amy~>






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#2078 From: "John Vos" <vos@...>
Date: Sat Jan 5, 2008 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: [ThyroidDisease] Dawn and Everyone re: a lesson in how cancer gets started a
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Dawn,

You are getting good advice from Amelia and myself.
And this message is also for all others in this group.
Your attitude is so dumb: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it"
You have 2 lovely daughters and no doubt at least one of them has the
exact same color and structure of eyes as you have.
But what you don't know is that the child inherits the body of the
parent with the exact same eyes. So that means that in case your
daughter has your eyes, she will also inherit the chance to develop
thyroid cancer, and it is up to you to prevent this.
You still have to find the cause of your cancer and teach your child
to avoid that cause at all costs. The CHOICE is YOURS.
But when you want to be stubborn, you can just let it go and trust
your doctor until it is to late.
If you want to know more you can always mail me and apply for a
questionnaire or read my web pages: http://www.doctorvos.com/
To your health and the health of your children.
Dr. John M. Vos.

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