I read your profile today, I thought I would drop you a line and hope to become
your friend! Check my personal page
http://privategbmsg.googlepages.com/girlrider.htm

This is very much a scam!!!!




--- In ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com, "Emily Royster"
<emilyroyster@...> wrote:
>
> Recently, I shared my wonderful experiences about the sampler
program being
> offered at http://savingsystems.org I must ask that people stop
emailing me
> and thanking me for the tip. My mailbox is constantly overflowing.
I am receiving
> a couple of hundred emails per day from people that joined the
program and
> are now saving huge amounts of cash. many others are sending me
their register
> receipts as attachments showing their savings. I know how much you
can save
> because I am part of this program. You are all very welcome there
is no need
> to email me and thank me. I am very happy to have been able to help
and I hope
> all of you will take time to share great tips with the rest of us!
>
> Emily
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Recently, I shared my wonderful experiences about the sampler program being
offered at http://savingsystems.org I must ask that people stop emailing me
and thanking me for the tip. My mailbox is constantly overflowing. I am
receiving
a couple of hundred emails per day from people that joined the program and
are now saving huge amounts of cash. many others are sending me their register
receipts as attachments showing their savings. I know how much you can save
because I am part of this program. You are all very welcome there is no need
to email me and thank me. I am very happy to have been able to help and I hope
all of you will take time to share great tips with the rest of us!

Emily



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I have opened a new board in yahoo:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/totalhealth2008
it is based on the premise that the food we eat can either kill us and
damage our health in the process or re-establish balance in the
physical body.

Come join us for a weekly and daily support to your health concerns.

Be well...
~Amy~
in Missouri

Do the coupons work for fresh veggies and fruits?
~Amy~











--- In ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com, "jestinjennifer"
<jestinjennifer@...> wrote:
>
> Re: The Loophole That Is Saving People Financially!
>
> Yes, Pam, I have also been a member of ths company's sampler program
> since the mid 1980s. I agree with you 100% that this is the best
> program to save a lot of money of just about every expense. I copied
> the original post that I read last week.
>
> [original post by Vicki G]
> As amazing as it may sound many people do not realize how easy it is
> to LEGALLY stop paying for their groceries! This is how the one hour
> television show began for the company whose website is at:
> http://savingsystems.org I thought it was very interesting and
> decided to check it out. I am very skeptical by nature so the first
> thing I did was check out the company. I contacted the Better
> Business Bureau and found that the company has had no complaints
> lodged against them, I also contacted Paypal who has verified this
> company. They told me that they verified the company's licenses,
bank
> accounts and other paperwork indicating to them that the company is
> legitimate. Then I started asking co-workers and friends about this
> program and to my surprise 6 out of the 10 people that I spoke with
> were already using this program. They told me how pleased they were
> with it and how much money they had saved and are currently saving.
> So I decided to sign up for this program on 12/20/07. On 12/27/07 I
> received my complete sampler membership package and the fun began.
> Using their program and the free lifetime membership that it
includes
> I went to the supermarket ready to make a killing. The cashier rang
> up my grocery bill and it came out to $239.87 then I presented her
> with the coupons I received from this program and I saved $223.38 -
> my final bill was only $16.49! The cashier wasn't the only one
> shocked. This program has changed my life!!!
>

Re: The Loophole That Is Saving People Financially!

Yes, Pam, I have also been a member of ths company's sampler program
since the mid 1980s. I agree with you 100% that this is the best
program to save a lot of money of just about every expense. I copied
the original post that I read last week.

[original post by Vicki G]
As amazing as it may sound many people do not realize how easy it is
to LEGALLY stop paying for their groceries! This is how the one hour
television show began for the company whose website is at:
http://savingsystems.org I thought it was very interesting and
decided to check it out. I am very skeptical by nature so the first
thing I did was check out the company. I contacted the Better
Business Bureau and found that the company has had no complaints
lodged against them, I also contacted Paypal who has verified this
company. They told me that they verified the company's licenses, bank
accounts and other paperwork indicating to them that the company is
legitimate. Then I started asking co-workers and friends about this
program and to my surprise 6 out of the 10 people that I spoke with
were already using this program. They told me how pleased they were
with it and how much money they had saved and are currently saving.
So I decided to sign up for this program on 12/20/07. On 12/27/07 I
received my complete sampler membership package and the fun began.
Using their program and the free lifetime membership that it includes
I went to the supermarket ready to make a killing. The cashier rang
up my grocery bill and it came out to $239.87 then I presented her
with the coupons I received from this program and I saved $223.38 -
my final bill was only $16.49! The cashier wasn't the only one
shocked. This program has changed my life!!!

I created this cool friends network and added you to my friends network. Hit-up
now:
http://meetazgirlfriend.googlepages.com/girlfriends.htm

Ok I have been thinking about "anti-bodies"..tell me if what I'm
thinking is "correct".

ASSUME a thyroid gland has mercury IN IT ( lodged in the tissues).
Mercury is foreign to the body.  The body develops anti-bodies and
attacks the thyroid wanting to rid the thyroid and body of the foreign
mercury.  This would make anti-bodies HIGH..correct? And int he process
it would probably do some damage to the thyroid gland correct?

So wouldn't it make sense to see WHY the anti-bodies are attacking the
thyroid gland..what is it about the gland that is causing the body to
actually have a NORMAL response to something foreign by attacking it to
try and get rid of the mercury???

Comments? help me figure this out :-)

I take my heavy metal mercury test tomorrow.

Be well....
~Amy~

I am a male age 63.
In early November my Thyroid Test Results were: FT4=.69, TSH=1.29.
Last week a retest showed: FT4=0.57, TSH=1.55.
The doctor stated it was normal. Within the acceptable lab range.
I am cold, going to a specialist for chronic severe constipation this
week, which I think is a waste of my time and money. I think it is a
result of the what I think is low thyroid hormone.  BUT the pituitary
is not telling the thyroid to ramp up. I guess my doctor is a primary
care physican that will not treat unless the lab results are
highlighted as out of their range.  Anyone else have this type of
readings???

Thanks for the reply.  I feel pretty good most of the time as long as I eat
right and exercise.  I did not have cancer.  I have Hashimoto's.  My numbers
were off the charts.  They could not shrink my thyroid with meds, so I had it
removed.  By the time they got it out, I could not swallow and could barely
breath.  I do eat  a lot of fish.  I maybe better rethink that.  Auto immune
diseases run in my family.  That is why I have always been so diligent about my
health.

Good luck to you!


To: ThyroidDisease2@...: lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...:
Sun, 6 Jan 2008 05:02:28 +0000Subject: [ThyroidDisease] Hi Dottie




Thank goodness you ARE a health nut, otherwise your condition may have been far
worse.It is hard to say what is "right" for a person to be doing. We are very
complex animals when you get right down to it and we're all so very different.I
wonder if mercury poisoning has a "play" in why you got sick with Hashimoto's.
Dr. Lou believes that mercury is now in our food chain in the United States. he
advises his cancer patients to STOP EATING ANY KIND OF TUNA, PERIOD!I also
TOTALLY agree with you 10000000% that stress could have caused this illness. I
do not think we know what damage stress can do to a body...STRESS causes free
radicals in the body and free radicals weaken an immune system..a weakened
immune system ALLOWS dis-ease to occur. So....How do you feel today?~Amy~> > > >
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Thank goodness you ARE a health nut, otherwise your condition may
have been far worse.
It is hard to say what is "right" for a person to be doing.  We are
very complex animals when you get right down to it and we're all so
very different.
I wonder if mercury poisoning has a "play" in why you got sick with
Hashimoto's. Dr. Lou believes that mercury is now in our food chain
in the United States.  he advises his cancer patients to STOP EATING
ANY KIND OF TUNA, PERIOD!
I also TOTALLY agree with you 10000000% that stress could have caused
this illness.  I do not think we know what damage stress can do to a
body...STRESS causes free radicals in the body and free radicals
weaken an immune system..a weakened immune system ALLOWS dis-ease to
occur.  So....

How do you feel today?

~Amy~




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Hi Dawn :-)
You're making good strides from what I read in your last e-mail.
IF you're ready to do more, we'll talk.
As far as your girls go...this is not a change just YOU need to be
making it is something THEY need to make as well.  Kids adjust rather
quickly when mom and or dad or better, both, say "ok this is what
we're doing to be as healthy as we can be."  KIDS are in greater need
maybe than adults in eating healthy and forming good habits now when
they are young.
Also I hear the "excuse" about time.
I say that because I myself use it as well.  And it is an excuse.
One day do you want to look back and say "I didn't make the time to
eat healthy and so my family got cancer and died."  I know a bit
drastic BUT you have to ask yourself the question..where are my
priorities?  I have 5 kids and run 3 businesses..I know about time
constraints but I have also learned that i won't be around to do any
of those things if I don't take my health seriously right now today.

IT IS NOT EASY in today's society..so you need to gather your support
team and do it anyway.

Just a side note...
just as SUGAR depleates your immune system as soon as you ingest
it...animal protein AGES you as soon as you eat it. :-(  Sad but very
true.

Be well....
~Amy~

Amy,

I totally agree about proper diet.  The strange (or should I say one of the
strange things) thing about my case is that I am a health nut.  I eat veggies,
lean meat, chicken, fish, and plenty of fruit.  No sodas.  I drink water, tea
and skim milk.   I do yoga, aerobics and walk.  I got sick anyway.  I was having
quite a bit of trouble with a rebellious (I hope I spelled that right) and I can
not help but think that stress may have caused my hashis.  I guess I will never
know for sure.   But certainly eating properly and exercise are keys to well
being.

God bless you all!!


To: ThyroidDisease2@...: lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...:
Sat, 5 Jan 2008 04:56:53 +0000Subject: [ThyroidDisease] Dottie something to
ponder




I don't think it wise to sit around waiting on "someone" to tell you your sick.
Or to give you a degree of which you are sick..cancer, no cancer...PREVENTION is
key in this world we live in today.I'm really happy you feel you have an endo
you can trust with your life. Because half of the battle in trying to heal
ourselves is finding someone you trust with your life. A large majority of MD's
whether endos or surgeons have been trained in REACTIONARY medicine...not in
prevention. They have no idea how to treat someone who is looking to totally
heal from an illness...not because they don't care but because they are not
trained in that area.The health care in this country is whacked at best.Our food
is starving us...we are a country of malnurished sick people.You know why we are
overweight in this country? because we are starving...yeah I know sounds like a
joke..it's not..anyone who has tried to lose weight knows...that if you are not
eating enough of the "right" foods your body thinks it is starving and will hold
on to the fat at all costs!We have to wake up or we're all going to die a
premature death.Here's a question I was asking my children and husband at dinner
this evening ( kids are 21, 19, 17, 15 and 11)...what is going to happen to the
generation of kids Tristan's age ( my youngest at 11) when all they've known is
fast food, processed food, and preservatives? It's no wonder we see kids with
illnesses that 30 years ago were only known to ADULTS! We are living in a time
where the children are DIEING BEFORE THEIR PARENTS! That is very scary.It is
going to take a huge group of educated and informed people to make the changes
happen...in the meantime I have a greenhouse on order and I am opening a CAFE
sometime this year that will actually FEED THE PEOPLE.Be well...~Amy~>






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Dawn,

You are getting good advice from Amelia and myself.
And this message is also for all others in this group.
Your attitude is so dumb: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it"
You have 2 lovely daughters and no doubt at least one of them has the
exact same color and structure of eyes as you have.
But what you don't know is that the child inherits the body of the
parent with the exact same eyes. So that means that in case your
daughter has your eyes, she will also inherit the chance to develop
thyroid cancer, and it is up to you to prevent this.
You still have to find the cause of your cancer and teach your child
to avoid that cause at all costs. The CHOICE is YOURS.
But when you want to be stubborn, you can just let it go and trust
your doctor until it is to late.
If you want to know more you can always mail me and apply for a
questionnaire or read my web pages: http://www.doctorvos.com/
To your health and the health of your children.
Dr. John M. Vos.

I have changed my diet alot.  Next month it will be a
year with no cokes and I drink water ot tea instead.
I use sweet n low to sweeten my tea.  I can't take it
without it.  I limit my sugar intake alot but ince a
month I need sweets before my period.  i am trying to
go more organic but will probably find that it will be
hard at dinner time with a 10 yr old girl and a 7 yr
old girl.  The youngest would probably take it easier
because she had homemade baby food.  She has food
sensitivities so we have to watch red dye 40 foods.  I
have a book about raw foods somewhere I need to start
reading when I have time.
I eat mostly salad for lunch during the week.  I will
add cheese or meat to it also.  I will sometimes add
eggs to it also.  I have food if I get enough protein
then I don't crave sweets as much.    I also take a
multi vitamin daily, if I don't I don't feel right.
I try my best to eat healthy and it is not easy.  I am
feeling the call to learn more about organic eating
but time to look at websites and books are limited.

I exercise 5 days a week. I will walk, do an abs tape
or weight lifting.  It all depends on my schedule.  I
have to walk to work so I know tht at least that gets
done.

Dawn
--- Amelia <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@...> wrote:

> Hi Dawn,
> I am glad that you are cancer free today but there
> are still things
> you need to be doing, in my opinion.
>
>
> In order to get rid of cancer you must stop doing
> what caused the
> cancer in the first place. Surgery is not going to
> do this.  You just
> took out the organ that was least resistant to the
> cancer. The cancer
> is still there.  It takes 10 years for a tumor to
> form. Did you know
> that cancer can only grow in an acidic environment?
> IF you have not
> changed anything with regards to diet and how you
> live your life your
> cancer will come back somewhere else in your body.
> This is a fact.
> Your body needs to have a balanced pH or the cancer
> will be allowed
> to grow. I don't say this to scare you or be mean, I
> say it so you
> can take preventative measures NOW. :-)
>
> I wish I could show you a drawing of the cells when
> cancer takes over.
>
> I am going to try and explain this in text..it is
> much easier to
> explain with a white board and markers.  But I'll
> try.
>
> Our trillions of cells are constantly giving off
> CARBON due to
> the "work" that the cells are doing 24/7.  In this
> process "smoke" is
> formed in the body ( this smoke is CO2 ~~ 1 carbon
> molecule and 2
> oxygen molecules).  Smoke in the body is NOT good
> just as it is NOT
> good if you have smoke in your house etc.  In that
> smoke are CARBON
> molecules HUNGRY for an 02 ( oxygen) molecule.  In
> our cells we have
> a nucleus, in that nucleus is OXYGEN. The carbon
> molecule DOES NOT
> CARE where it gets the O2 molecule and so it goes
> right to the
> nucleus of a cell.  What else is found in the
> nucleus?  DNA...if the
> GROWTH SWITCH in that DNA, is in the ON position
> when the Carbon
> comes to steal the Oxygen...that cell MINUS the
> OXYGEN molecule is
> now going to replicate and replicate and replicate
> and replicate (
> this is CALLED CANCER). Cancer cells are those cells
> minus the
> oxygen.
>
> This is also called the process of oxidation and
> explains free
> radicals.  The only way to SLOW this process down is
> with
> ANTIOXIDANTS. You can't compeletly wipe out the
> oxidation/free
> radical process. But you can slow it down to a
> snails pace. Anti
> oxidants are just that, they are ANTI
> OXIDATION..meaning they GRAB
> that carbon molecule BEFORE it can go into the
> nucleus of the cell to
> steal the O2 thus preventing the cell damage and the
> replication of
> cancer cells.  Remember it takes 10 years to form a
> tumor.
>
> So the next question is ARE YOU EATING ENOUGH
> ANTIOXIDANTS to take
> care of the free radicals that cause oxidation in
> the body?  Chances
> are NO..because of the quality of food we have
> available to us today.
> We pick things green, which does not allow the
> natural process to
> occur at the end of the growing cycle when the
> fruit/'vegetable is
> RIPE giving it the best nutrients and plant sugars
> to heal the body
> AND we grow our crops in fields laden with
> chemicals, pesticides and
> herbicides.  It is not a FUNNY matter when we are
> talking peoples
> health.  Organic food has 30 % more nutrients BUT if
> it is picked
> GREEN it really doesn't matter it is void of most
> minerals and
> vitamins we need to sustain our health.
>
> SO eating organic and EATING LOCAL!!! is a must.
> Search out the places in your area that has LOCALLY
> grown food...that
> way they don't have to pick it green..it gets to
> stay in the field
> until ripe. Buy a small greenhouse and use it.
>
> There are two juices that have the highest amounts
> of antioxidants on
> the planet that I am aware of as of today ( and my
> research continues
> on)..one called MonaVie which I am on and has the
> ACAI berry from
> Brazil and the other is Zrii which has AMALAKI (
> goose berry) from
> India..backed by the DEEPAK CHOPRA Center for
> Wellbeing.
>
> These two juices are fairly new on the market and
> come to us because
> some brave smart souls asked the question...how can
> we be
> healthier...and the answer came..go to the places in
> the world where
> the people live the longest.
>
> EAT the foods that are high in antioxidants.
> Atleast the researchers
> got that one right...we DO NEED antioxidants
> EVERYDAY in our
> diets..otherwise the free radicals are busily
> stealing o2 molecules
> from our DNA and causing cancer and all other
> illnesses.
>
> Taking antioxidants in pill form is better than
> nothing...although
> you have to be careful about which ones (company)
> you take.. TESTS to
> do on any of your suppliments/vitamins are:
>
> 1. drop them in a glass of water ( can add just a
> bit of vinegar to
> simulate the acid in your stomach) and if they do
> not dissolve in 20
> minutes or less they are going right through you to
> the toilet and
> into the sewer.  Interesting fact..ask any porta
> potty company about
> the screens they had to invent in the industry to
> screen OUT the
> thousands and millions of vitamins in their
> Port-a-Potties...they
> have mounds of them on site and have to have them
> trucked away..they
> don't dissolve.
>
> 2.cook your vitamins/suppliments in an oven at 325
> degree for about
> 20-30 minutes...if they have any TAR fillers they
> will bubble out of
> the vitamin..you do not want to be taking
> these...the TAR fillers can
> cause all kinds of issues in the body as we don't
> readily know how to
> deal with it it usually gets stuck in there
> somewhere for a long time.
>
> There are three industries that are NOT regulated in
> this country.
> Make-up
> Water and
> Nutritional Suppliments
>
> Water they are trying to regulate more ( most
> bottled water comes
> from a neighboring state, OUT OF THE TAP! not from a
> spring.)
>
> BUT because there are no regulations on any of these
> three the
> companies can say ANYTHING and make ANY CLAIMS they
> want...it doesn't
> have to be true.
>
> So this is all a result of years of research and
> just recently due to
> my own diagnosis of hashimoto's...I'm not going to
> stay sick
> people...I want my body in balanced form.  I've made
> some really bad
> choices in my life and my fast food addiction is
> probably killing me,
> but I'm on track to healing myself and changing my
> lifestyle so i can
> be alive and well when I am 100.
>
> Be well...
> ~Amy~
>
>
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Hi,
Now this is coming from the Master Spiritual Life Coach , that I am,
let's go down each road for a moment...
1. you have cancer...what in your life will change?

2. you don't have cancer....what in your life will change?


The point being the answer to BOTH questions "should" be the same
answer.
Othwerwise you are living in the reactionary MODE...which puts you
behind the eight ball. You do not want to find yourself here when
dealing with a life or death illness like cancer.

What you are doing in your life today and tomorrow and the rest of
your life should be the same whether you have cancer or not.
I know a bit confusing to think about at first, atleast it was for me.

Maybe at first...if you find out you have cancer..you need to
saturate the body with good food and get rid of ALL cancer causing
agents ( from your shampoo, conditioner, toothpaste, laundry soap,
diet etc.) Sodium Laurel Sulfate is the number one ingredient on Dr.
Lous list ( my Naturopath in Florida)..I can send you the whole thing
if you want..Dr. Lou has given me permission to pass it on to anyone
who wants it.

ANYTHING that goes in your mouth or on your skin, you absorb directly
into the bloodstream. Be aware of what you're doing.

Just a few things to think about.

I will send you energy of the white light that sees you clear of
cancer. :-)All is well, and so it is.

Be well...

~Amy~

Hi Dawn,
I am glad that you are cancer free today but there are still things
you need to be doing, in my opinion.


In order to get rid of cancer you must stop doing what caused the
cancer in the first place. Surgery is not going to do this.  You just
took out the organ that was least resistant to the cancer. The cancer
is still there.  It takes 10 years for a tumor to form. Did you know
that cancer can only grow in an acidic environment?  IF you have not
changed anything with regards to diet and how you live your life your
cancer will come back somewhere else in your body.  This is a fact.
Your body needs to have a balanced pH or the cancer will be allowed
to grow. I don't say this to scare you or be mean, I say it so you
can take preventative measures NOW. :-)

I wish I could show you a drawing of the cells when cancer takes over.

I am going to try and explain this in text..it is much easier to
explain with a white board and markers.  But I'll try.

Our trillions of cells are constantly giving off CARBON due to
the "work" that the cells are doing 24/7.  In this process "smoke" is
formed in the body ( this smoke is CO2 ~~ 1 carbon molecule and 2
oxygen molecules).  Smoke in the body is NOT good just as it is NOT
good if you have smoke in your house etc.  In that smoke are CARBON
molecules HUNGRY for an 02 ( oxygen) molecule.  In our cells we have
a nucleus, in that nucleus is OXYGEN. The carbon molecule DOES NOT
CARE where it gets the O2 molecule and so it goes right to the
nucleus of a cell.  What else is found in the nucleus?  DNA...if the
GROWTH SWITCH in that DNA, is in the ON position when the Carbon
comes to steal the Oxygen...that cell MINUS the OXYGEN molecule is
now going to replicate and replicate and replicate and replicate (
this is CALLED CANCER). Cancer cells are those cells minus the
oxygen.

This is also called the process of oxidation and explains free
radicals.  The only way to SLOW this process down is with
ANTIOXIDANTS. You can't compeletly wipe out the oxidation/free
radical process. But you can slow it down to a snails pace. Anti
oxidants are just that, they are ANTI OXIDATION..meaning they GRAB
that carbon molecule BEFORE it can go into the nucleus of the cell to
steal the O2 thus preventing the cell damage and the replication of
cancer cells.  Remember it takes 10 years to form a tumor.

So the next question is ARE YOU EATING ENOUGH ANTIOXIDANTS to take
care of the free radicals that cause oxidation in the body?  Chances
are NO..because of the quality of food we have available to us today.
We pick things green, which does not allow the natural process to
occur at the end of the growing cycle when the fruit/'vegetable is
RIPE giving it the best nutrients and plant sugars to heal the body
AND we grow our crops in fields laden with chemicals, pesticides and
herbicides.  It is not a FUNNY matter when we are talking peoples
health.  Organic food has 30 % more nutrients BUT if it is picked
GREEN it really doesn't matter it is void of most minerals and
vitamins we need to sustain our health.

SO eating organic and EATING LOCAL!!! is a must.
Search out the places in your area that has LOCALLY grown food...that
way they don't have to pick it green..it gets to stay in the field
until ripe. Buy a small greenhouse and use it.

There are two juices that have the highest amounts of antioxidants on
the planet that I am aware of as of today ( and my research continues
on)..one called MonaVie which I am on and has the ACAI berry from
Brazil and the other is Zrii which has AMALAKI ( goose berry) from
India..backed by the DEEPAK CHOPRA Center for Wellbeing.

These two juices are fairly new on the market and come to us because
some brave smart souls asked the question...how can we be
healthier...and the answer came..go to the places in the world where
the people live the longest.

EAT the foods that are high in antioxidants.  Atleast the researchers
got that one right...we DO NEED antioxidants EVERYDAY in our
diets..otherwise the free radicals are busily stealing o2 molecules
from our DNA and causing cancer and all other illnesses.

Taking antioxidants in pill form is better than nothing...although
you have to be careful about which ones (company) you take.. TESTS to
do on any of your suppliments/vitamins are:

1. drop them in a glass of water ( can add just a bit of vinegar to
simulate the acid in your stomach) and if they do not dissolve in 20
minutes or less they are going right through you to the toilet and
into the sewer.  Interesting fact..ask any porta potty company about
the screens they had to invent in the industry to screen OUT the
thousands and millions of vitamins in their Port-a-Potties...they
have mounds of them on site and have to have them trucked away..they
don't dissolve.

2.cook your vitamins/suppliments in an oven at 325 degree for about
20-30 minutes...if they have any TAR fillers they will bubble out of
the vitamin..you do not want to be taking these...the TAR fillers can
cause all kinds of issues in the body as we don't readily know how to
deal with it it usually gets stuck in there somewhere for a long time.

There are three industries that are NOT regulated in this country.
Make-up
Water and
Nutritional Suppliments

Water they are trying to regulate more ( most bottled water comes
from a neighboring state, OUT OF THE TAP! not from a spring.)

BUT because there are no regulations on any of these three the
companies can say ANYTHING and make ANY CLAIMS they want...it doesn't
have to be true.

So this is all a result of years of research and just recently due to
my own diagnosis of hashimoto's...I'm not going to stay sick
people...I want my body in balanced form.  I've made some really bad
choices in my life and my fast food addiction is probably killing me,
but I'm on track to healing myself and changing my lifestyle so i can
be alive and well when I am 100.

Be well...
~Amy~

I don't think it wise to sit around waiting on "someone" to tell you
your sick.  Or to give you a degree of which you are sick..cancer, no
cancer...PREVENTION is key in this world we live in today.

I'm really happy you feel you have an endo you can trust with your
life.  Because half of the battle in trying to heal ourselves is
finding someone you trust with your life.

A large majority of MD's whether endos or surgeons have been trained
in REACTIONARY medicine...not in prevention.  They have no idea how
to treat someone who is looking to totally heal from an illness...not
because they don't care but because they are not trained in that area.

The health care in this country is whacked at best.
Our food is starving us...we are a country of malnurished sick people.
You know why we are overweight in this country?  because we are
starving...yeah I know sounds like a joke..it's not..anyone who has
tried to lose weight knows...that if you are not eating enough of
the "right" foods your body thinks it is starving and will hold on to
the fat at all costs!

We have to wake up or we're all going to die a premature death.

Here's a question I was asking my children and husband at dinner this
evening ( kids are 21, 19, 17, 15 and 11)...what is going to happen
to the generation of kids Tristan's age ( my youngest at 11) when all
they've known is fast food, processed food, and preservatives?  It's
no wonder we see kids with illnesses that 30 years ago were only
known to ADULTS!  We are living in a time where the children are
DIEING BEFORE THEIR PARENTS!  That is very scary.

It is going to take a huge group of educated and informed people to
make the changes happen...in the meantime I have a greenhouse on
order and I am opening a CAFE sometime this year that will actually
FEED THE PEOPLE.

Be well...
~Amy~



>

Dr. John,
   No matter what you think of how I am going about this, I do want to hear a
diagnosis from an Endocrinologist. It's not that I think that anything that you
told me is wrong, it's not that I think that the diet you recommended is wrong,
even though I am a thin young person and I have never had a problem with my
diet. I am now on a low iodine diet that my doctor has recommended for a
upcoming test and I feel no difference in my health except a little more
frustration because I cannot have the foods that I would like. I would like to
know if this nodule that I have is cancer. I know that the Endocrinologist
cannot tell me what caused the nodule but I will be seen by someone who
specializes in the thyroid and it's diseases. I am not saying that I did not
listen to your advice but I WILL go on with my medical doctors. I do not feel
comfortable depending on the advice of a doctor that I met on the internet.
Please do not feel that I am degrading you or your pratice in anyway.

   Jennifer

John Vos <vos@...> wrote:
   Just praise yourself lucky that your MD took the right step.
But still he was not able to prevent your thyroiditis simply because
doctors do not know how to diagnose people.
Doctors study MEDICINE which is the knowledge of medications or
remedies and what they are made for, their contents and the side effects.
Doctor have no idea what the cause of any disease really is, they
simply do not learn that, which is one of the reasons why doctors fail
often.
For more information see my next post to Amelia.
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Thanks for your support Amelia,

This what we need for to many people are indoctrinated from cradle to
grave that the doctor and the minister know best. Which is a lie.
Neither one knows anything, they are just told to tell people lies, so
the flow of money to the top is secured. That's why people pay so
dearly for their health care and still end up dead too early.

There are some simple facts that each and everyone can check out for
themselves. All they have to do is read my web page, where i have
revealed my medical discoveries. Go to: http://www.doctorvos.com/
Pay special attention to the ORGANCLOCK, which is the key to all forms
of cancer. It is that organclock that show you the sequence and the
time when w=each of our 12 organs have their daily 2 hour energy turn
in the 24 hours of a full day. JETLAG is the purest proof of the
existence of the organclock, but doctor never learn anything about it.
Same as they never learn anything about the 5 elements, Yin/Yang and
the 12 organs in our body. They still believe that we have only 10 organs.

Anyone with thyroid problem can mail me and request a QUESTIONNAIRE
and I'll be happy to send one, and make an assessment for anyone who
wants it. I'll show each and everyone what the real and only cause of
their problem really is, so they can do something about it.
I will also be happy to guide them through the healing and cleaning
process. But most people believe in their failing doctor and the
remedies that only treat the symptoms, but not the disease or cause.

I would like to exchange some more thoughts with you Amelia, but
preferably on my personal email address: doctorvos@... so I'll
look forward to your messages.
Warm regards and in health, Dr. John M. Vos.

Dawn,
   I would not have a problem with the tests that my general doctor is ordering
if they would tell me why they are doing the tests.  I have only had one
appointment with my primary doctor and that was the intial one. Since that
appointment they have been ordering several tests through outpatient services
and when the results come back from those tests they have a hard time explaining
them to me. For instance, I had the first ultrasound done and the nurse called
to tell me that the doctor wanted to go ahead and have the thyroid scan done. I
asked her what the findings were from the ultrasound and she told me that I
didn't need to worry and that they didn't find anything out really. I then asked
her what size the nodule was and if it was solid, she wouldn't tell me. She just
kept saying don't worry, we'll know more after the scan.  After four phone calls
to the office I was finally able to get the results faxed to me. The nodule is
over 4cm and it's a complex nodule. That was
  all that I wanted to know. The doctor's office keeps telling me that the Endo.
requires these tests done. I know that they don't so when I told the nurse that
she told me that I should not even be talking to an Endo. yet. I think that I
should have been sent to an Endo. in the first place. My insurance is great and
I do not need a referral to go to a specialist so I do not understand why they
didn't. I can't help but think if I had just gone to an Endo. in the first place
I would already know what this is. The nodule is big enough that you can clearly
see it with a naked eye. All four Endo. that are within 50 miles of my home are
referrals only so I can't go to those. I did find an Endo. about 55 miles away
that is going to see me on Thursday. She has great reviews, seems that she's
really caring, her nurses are nice, and she is involved with a really good
hospital.  She also accepts my insurance (thank God). I will be so happy to be
seen by someone who will be able to
  answer my questions. Thank you for your advice.

   Jennifer

Dawn Dingeldein <spiritsk@...> wrote:
   I can say that my general doctor was the one who saved
me, along with my surgeon and cancer doctor. I never
had an endocrinologist. For me I went in to the
doctor one day for a prescription and left. When I
got home I had a message to come in for an EKG. My
pulse was 140. The ekg was normal so my general
doctor said is was probably hyperthyroidism. The next
day blood work came back and that is what it was. My
doctor go upset because it would take over a month to
see my cancer doctor and my general doctor was not
happy. So he sent me to the surgeon. It only took a
few days before I saw him. He talked to us about my
options and he reviewed my lab results. My levels
were so high they could not give it a number. He had
an ultrasound done in my thyroid and it showed
nothing. We had decided to do surgery adn it was the
best choice. They found cancer during the first
surgery and 2 weeks after the first surgery and they
took more of my thyroid out because of the cancer. A
few months after my thyorid being removed I had mine
killed so it would not function. So now it is almost
2 yrs since it all began and am doing well on my
thyroid hormone. I go every 6 months for blood work
to make sure my levels are fine and if not they call
me and the pharmacy with a new prescription. It does
not take too long for me to get results. I don't even
have to call, they call me. I am lucky that I don't
have to see the cancer doctor anymore. My doctors
here monitor my thyroid levels. For me to see a
specialist is a pain because I need a referrel and
such, we have an HMO. I can always call if I need
results but they call me first.

I am active in knowing what is going on with my health
but it seems when it comes to results they get me
first before I have to call.

Dawn
--- Dottie H wrote:

>
> Wow that was harsh. I actually credit my
> endocrinologist with saving my life. He is very
> interested in my case. Just my two cents worth.
>
>
> To: ThyroidDisease2@...:
> vos@...: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:22:24
> +0000Subject: Re: [ThyroidDisease] How long did it
> take to get diagnosed?
>
>
>
>
> YOUR WORDS: "You sure need patience while waiting
> though."How stupid do you want to be????Your
> endocrinologist can only tell you that you have or
> have not cancer.All the time you are waiting your
> tumor doesn't stop growing.Your endocrinologist
> cannot even tell you what the cause is, he canonly
> prescribe medications. That's how he makes his
> money, so let itgrow some more than the amount of
> medication and treatment will be more.He is just
> giving himself a raise in income.JENNIFER I have
> told you what the cause of your hashi is, so
> startding something about it, it may not be to late
> yet, YOUR CHOICE.But don't depend on doctors they
> only studied medication and are notinterested in
> causes.You really have to wake up and that goes for
> all of you in this group.Warm regards and in health,
> Dr. John M. Vos.
>
>
>
>
>
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Just praise yourself lucky that your MD took the right step.
But still he was not able to prevent your thyroiditis simply because
doctors do not know how to diagnose people.
Doctors study MEDICINE which is the knowledge of medications or
remedies and what they are made for, their contents and the side effects.
Doctor have no idea what the cause of any disease really is, they
simply do not learn that, which is one of the reasons why doctors fail
often.
For more information see my next post to Amelia.
Warm regards and in health, Dr. John M. Vos.

I can say that my general doctor was the one who saved
me, along with my surgeon and cancer doctor.  I never
had an endocrinologist.  For me I went in to the
doctor one day for a prescription and left.  When I
got home I had a message to come in for an EKG.  My
pulse was 140.  The ekg was normal so my general
doctor said is was probably hyperthyroidism.  The next
day blood work came back and that is what it was.  My
doctor go upset because it would take over a month to
see my cancer doctor and my general doctor was not
happy.  So he sent me to the surgeon.  It only took a
few days before I saw him.  He talked to us about my
options and he reviewed my lab results.  My levels
were so high they could not give it a number.  He had
an ultrasound done in my thyroid and it showed
nothing.  We had decided to do surgery adn it was the
best choice.  They found cancer during the first
surgery and 2 weeks after the first surgery and they
took more of my thyroid out because of the cancer.  A
few months after my thyorid being removed I had mine
killed so it would not function.  So now it is almost
2 yrs since it all began and am doing well on my
thyroid hormone.  I go every 6 months for blood work
to make sure my levels are fine and if not they call
me and the pharmacy  with a new prescription.  It does
not take too long for me to get results.  I don't even
have to call, they call me. I am lucky that I don't
have to see the cancer doctor anymore.  My doctors
here monitor my thyroid levels.  For me to see a
specialist is a pain because I need a referrel and
such, we have an HMO.  I can always call if I need
results but they call me first.

I am active in knowing what is going on with my health
but it seems when it comes to results they get me
first before I have to call.

Dawn
--- Dottie H <dottie_123@...> wrote:

>
> Wow that was harsh.   I actually credit my
> endocrinologist with saving my life.  He is very
> interested in my case.  Just my two cents worth.
>
>
> To: ThyroidDisease2@...:
> vos@...: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:22:24
> +0000Subject: Re: [ThyroidDisease] How long did it
> take to get diagnosed?
>
>
>
>
> YOUR WORDS: "You sure need patience while waiting
> though."How stupid do you want to be????Your
> endocrinologist can only tell you that you have or
> have not cancer.All the time you are waiting your
> tumor doesn't stop growing.Your endocrinologist
> cannot even tell you what the cause is, he canonly
> prescribe medications. That's how he makes his
> money, so let itgrow some more than the amount of
> medication and treatment will be more.He is just
> giving himself a raise in income.JENNIFER I have
> told you what the cause of your hashi is, so
> startding something about it, it may not be to late
> yet, YOUR CHOICE.But don't depend on doctors they
> only studied medication and are notinterested in
> causes.You really have to wake up and that goes for
> all of you in this group.Warm regards and in health,
> Dr. John M. Vos.
>
>
>
>
>
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Anyone who has had a disease diagnosed...no matter what it is is
already BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL and running very fast to not get
flushed down the perverbial toilet to a dark and dreary death!

The TOP three causes of death in this country are
1. cancer
2. heart disease
2. MEDICAL DOCTORS

I'll post the proof later this weekend.  This was written up in the
Journal of American Medicine by an MD.

So we get sick with the number one cause of death or the number 2
cause of death and go to NUMBER three cause of death to get well???
NOT I SAID THE BIG BLACK HEN! LOL

Ok all joking aside..YOU are responsible for your health.  YOU are
responsibile to get yourself well and healthy.  I agree with Dr. Vos
waiting on a doctor to tell you anything is just prolonging YOUR
RECOVERY from whatever it is you have.

I know it's scary.  I've been there.  I know it's not easy, I've been
there too.  But there IS information out there for all of us on how
to heal our bodies.  You have to believe you can FIRST!  Stop buying
into the societal norms of once sick, always sick, or cancer = death,
or the whole victim mentality.  YOu're not a victim unless you decide
you're going to be one.

I am working with a Naturopath out of Florida and he has given me
permission to share all the documents that he has sent to me.
Visit my blog site at:
http://bodymindspirit-amy.blogspot.com/
READ what the medical establishment doesn't want you to know.

Disease, I am convinced, is a direct result of MALNURISHMENT in this
country ( United States).  We pick things green, not allowing Mother
Nature to 'finish" her works of art.  Do you know what happens in the
last stages of growth in a fruit or vegetable?  ALL kinds of
wonderful things happen in  that plant as far as nutrients and health
building blocks.  But in this country we PICK things green to do
what?  to make more money...it always comes down to money. How do we
fortify our fields? with chemicals and pesticides...what do we expect
from the ground if this is the way we treat it??  We need to eat
locally and organic.  Organic food has 30% more nutrients in it, eat
MORE of it.

Your health is YOUR choice.

Ask questions...ask LOTS of questions!!!

I wasn't aware there was a doctor on here..not sure what kind of
doctor you are but I'd like to hear more of what you have to say.

Be well...
~Amy~






--- In ThyroidDisease2@yahoogroups.com, "John Vos" <vos@...> wrote:
>
>  YOUR WORDS: "You sure need patience while waiting though."
>
> How stupid do you want to be????
> Your endocrinologist can only tell you that you have or have not
cancer.
> All the time you are waiting your tumor doesn't stop growing.
> Your endocrinologist cannot even tell you what the cause is, he can
> only prescribe medications. That's how he makes his money, so let it
> grow some more than the amount of medication and treatment will be
more.
> He is just giving himself a raise in income.
> JENNIFER I have told you what the cause of your hashi is, so start
> ding something about it, it may not be to late yet, YOUR CHOICE.
> But don't depend on doctors they only studied medication and are not
> interested in causes.
>
> You really have to wake up and that goes for all of you in this
group.
> Warm regards and in health, Dr. John M. Vos.
>

Wow that was harsh.   I actually credit my endocrinologist with saving my life. 
He is very interested in my case.  Just my two cents worth.


To: ThyroidDisease2@...: vos@...: Fri, 4 Jan 2008
08:22:24 +0000Subject: Re: [ThyroidDisease] How long did it take to get
diagnosed?




YOUR WORDS: "You sure need patience while waiting though."How stupid do you want
to be????Your endocrinologist can only tell you that you have or have not
cancer.All the time you are waiting your tumor doesn't stop growing.Your
endocrinologist cannot even tell you what the cause is, he canonly prescribe
medications. That's how he makes his money, so let itgrow some more than the
amount of medication and treatment will be more.He is just giving himself a
raise in income.JENNIFER I have told you what the cause of your hashi is, so
startding something about it, it may not be to late yet, YOUR CHOICE.But don't
depend on doctors they only studied medication and are notinterested in
causes.You really have to wake up and that goes for all of you in this
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YOUR WORDS: "You sure need patience while waiting though."

How stupid do you want to be????
Your endocrinologist can only tell you that you have or have not cancer.
All the time you are waiting your tumor doesn't stop growing.
Your endocrinologist cannot even tell you what the cause is, he can
only prescribe medications. That's how he makes his money, so let it
grow some more than the amount of medication and treatment will be more.
He is just giving himself a raise in income.
JENNIFER I have told you what the cause of your hashi is, so start
ding something about it, it may not be to late yet, YOUR CHOICE.
But don't depend on doctors they only studied medication and are not
interested in causes.

You really have to wake up and that goes for all of you in this group.
Warm regards and in health, Dr. John M. Vos.

I have had full body scans adn do not like it and it
does seem like it takes forever to to get results.
Now when I go every 6 months for blood work it takes a
few days to get it back but my doctor always calls me
to tell me the results or if they have to change my
med level.  I have not seen my cancer doctor in over a
year because they can handle it here.  I don't even
need a request for blood work, mine has a standing
order on it so I don't need it all the time.  All they
have to do is look at my records to see why I need
blood work.

You sure need patience while waiting though.

Dawn
--- JENNIFER WILLIAMS <jenco2013@...> wrote:

> Well I have had all of the blood work done and the
> ultrasounds and now I am having a thyroid scan done
> in two weeks. We have ruled everything out besides
> cancer. Since my blood tests came back normal my
> doctor isn't sure that the scan will tell them
> anything new but he wants to try it. After that I
> will FINALLY get referred to an endocrinologist (I
> am seeing my primary physician now for insurance
> purposes).  I'll probably end up having a FNA done.
> It just seems like it's taking forever to find
> anything out.
>
>   Thanks,
>    Jennifer
>
> Dawn Dunedin <spiritsk@...> wrote:
>   It al ldepends on what part you are talking about.
>
> When they did my bloodwork to test for
> hyperthyroidism
> it only took one day. My doctor rushed it. My
> thyroid ultrasound really did not show anything at
> all.
>
> Dawn
> --- jenco2013 wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> > I am currently undergoing going testing to
> determine
> > what is causing
> > the nodule on my thyroid. It is over 4cm and is
> > causing some problems
> > with swallowing, coughing, and such. I was
> wondering
> > how long it took
> > for everyone else to get diagnosed because it
> seems
> > like it is going
> > to take FOREVER:) and it is hard not to get
> > frustrated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jennifer
> >
> >
> >
>
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Well I have had all of the blood work done and the ultrasounds and now I am
having a thyroid scan done in two weeks. We have ruled everything out besides
cancer. Since my blood tests came back normal my doctor isn't sure that the scan
will tell them anything new but he wants to try it. After that I will FINALLY
get referred to an endocrinologist (I am seeing my primary physician now for
insurance purposes).  I'll probably end up having a FNA done. It just seems like
it's taking forever to find anything out.

   Thanks,
    Jennifer

Dawn Dunedin <spiritsk@...> wrote:
   It al ldepends on what part you are talking about.
When they did my bloodwork to test for hyperthyroidism
it only took one day. My doctor rushed it. My
thyroid ultrasound really did not show anything at
all.

Dawn
--- jenco2013 wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I am currently undergoing going testing to determine
> what is causing
> the nodule on my thyroid. It is over 4cm and is
> causing some problems
> with swallowing, coughing, and such. I was wondering
> how long it took
> for everyone else to get diagnosed because it seems
> like it is going
> to take FOREVER:) and it is hard not to get
> frustrated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jennifer
>
>
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It al ldepends on what part you are talking about.
When they did my bloodwork to test for hyperthyroidism
it only took one day.  My doctor rushed it.  My
thyroid ultrasound really did not show anything at
all.

Dawn
--- jenco2013 <jenco2013@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I am currently undergoing going testing to determine
> what is causing
> the nodule on my thyroid. It is over 4cm and is
> causing some problems
> with swallowing, coughing, and such. I was wondering
> how long it took
> for everyone else to get diagnosed because it seems
> like it is going
> to take FOREVER:) and it is hard not to get
> frustrated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jennifer
>
>
>


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Hello everyone,
I am currently undergoing going testing to determine what is causing
the nodule on my thyroid. It is over 4cm and is causing some problems
with swallowing, coughing, and such. I was wondering how long it took
for everyone else to get diagnosed because it seems like it is going
to take FOREVER:) and it is hard not to get frustrated.

Thanks,
Jennifer