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Date: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:29 pm
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I was praying that God would show me something new about the weight issue I�ve been researching for more than 20 years. I have always thought it was glandular, probably pituitary/thyroid/adrenal related. I was praying and muscle testing to see IF I were able to repair and heal the Pituitary and all, - would this fix my weight problem? Muscle testing, the answer was no. I thought about that, and realized my father always told me that I have a Genetic Tendency to have weight problems. So, I checked to see if it was Genetic. Yes. So, I checked to see if I needed to correct the DNA/RNA. That was not the answer. So, I started checking different aspects of Genetic issues, and what checked to be the reason was something to do with Chromosomes. So, I did a search on Chromosomes, and Women�s Obesity, and came up with information on the X Chromosome, and something to do with Telomere Terminal Restriction Fragment Length�.. Doing searches on that, came up with Women, and the body�s �Perceived stress�, and all this information came up.

I�m thinking that if we were able to clear the X Chromosome and Telomere Terminal Restriction Fragment Length, - the allergy auto immune allergy to this, then run the Heal or Retore Laser function using the same vial, and allow the body to Clear it's allergies, Heal and Restore this process, using possibly not only the laser, but also Homeopathic Sarcodes for these, and Nutritional DNA/RNA, Amino Acids, Cell Salts, etc�. we might have the opportunity to heal and reset these TRF�s to their appropriate length, and become healthier.

As you can see when reading this collection of abstracts, it has much more to do with all aspects of health, than just weight. Parkinson�s, Diabetes, Rheumatoid Arthritis, and much more.

I�d love to have some feedback on this idea, if you�d be willing to brainstorm with me on this!!!

Thanks in advance!

Jennifer Ruby

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X Chromosome + telomere terminal restriction fragment (TRF) length + women obesity

March 18, 2009

Biomarkers Show Faster Aging From Obesity, Stress

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/006050.html

Telomere caps on chromosomes shorten with age. Obesity and stress are correlated with faster shrinking of telomere caps.

Women who maintain a healthy weight and who have lower perceived stress may be less likely to have chromosome changes associated with aging than obese and stressed women, according to a pilot study that was part of the Sister Study. The long-term Sister Study is looking at the environmental and genetic characteristics of women whose sister had breast cancer to identify factors associated with developing breast cancer. This early pilot used baseline questionnaires and samples provided by participants when they joined the Sister Study.

Two recent papers published in Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers and Prevention looked at the length of telomeres, or the repeating DNA sequences that cap the ends of a person's chromosomes. Telomere length is one of the many measures being looked at in the Sister Study. Telomeres protect the ends of chromosomes and buffer them against the loss of important genes during cell replication. Over the course of an individual's lifetime, telomeres shorten, gradually becoming so short that they can trigger cell death. The papers show that factors such as obesity and perceived stress may shorten telomeres and accelerate the aging process.

Avoid obesity and stress. Easier said than done of course.

If you get overweight by 40 it is worse than getting overweight later. Probably it is a cumulative effect. The earlier you start the more total cellular damage builds up.

One of the studies published this week found that women who were obese for a long time had reduced telomere length. The researchers looked at the relationship between various measures of current and past body size and telomere length in 647 women enrolled in the Sister Study. They found that women who had an overweight or obese body mass index (BMI) before or during their 30s, and maintained that status since those years, had shorter telomeres than those who became overweight or obese after their 30s. "This suggests that duration of obesity may be more important than weight change per se, although other measures of overweight and obesity were also important," said Sangmi Kim, Ph.D., epidemiologist and lead author on the paper. "Our results support the hypothesis that obesity accelerates the aging process," said Kim.

If you feel stressed and your body has more stress hormones in it then that maximizes the effect of stress on telomere aging.

The other paper published in February looked at the association between telomere length and the perceived stress levels of 647 women enrolled in the Sister Study, and found that similar to the obesity finding, stress can also impact telomere length. The researchers extracted DNA from blood drawn during initial enrollment to estimate telomere length, and measured levels of stress hormones in urine samples the women provided. Additionally, the researchers used a standardized scale to characterize levels of perceived stress based on answers to questions about how stressful participants perceived their life situations. In general, the researchers report that women in the Sister Study typically reported low levels of perceived stress.

"Even so, women who reported above-average stress had somewhat shorter telomeres, but the difference in telomere length was most striking when we looked at the relationship between perceived stress and telomere length among women with the highest levels of stress hormones," said Christine Parks, Ph.D., an NIEHS epidemiologist and lead author on the paper. "Among women with both higher perceived stress and elevated levels of the stress hormone epinephrine, the difference in telomere length was equivalent to or greater than the effects of being obese, smoking or 10 years of aging."

Think about your job decisions, relationship decisions, investment decisions, and spending decisions from the standpoint of which potential decisions carry the risk of creating stress. Avoid putting yourself in situations where you stand a higher chance of feeling stressed. You'll age more slowly and live longer as a result.

Obesity cuts about 3 years off of life expectancy and extreme obesity cuts about 10 years off of life expectancy.

�Above a healthy weight, every 5-point increase in BMI increases the risk of early death by about 30%.

�People who are overweight but not obese, with a BMI between 25 and 29.9, could be shortening their life span by a year.

�People with the lowest risk of dying early are in the high end of the healthy weight range with a BMI of about 22.5 to 25.

Since most people by middle age are overweight a substantial number of people are losing out on some years of life. Here are more details on the study. Go calculate your body mass index (BMI).

By Randall Parker at 2009 March 18 12:11 AM Aging Weight Studies

The Lancet, Volume 363, Issue 9408, Pages 507 - 510, 14 February 2004

doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(04)15535-9Cite or Link Using DOI

Telomere length and possible link to X chromosome

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(04)15535-9/abstract

Original Text

Tim S Nawrot MSc a, Dr Jan A Staessen MD a , Jeffrey P Gardner PhD b, Prof Abraham Aviv MD b

Summary

Background

Because telomeres are eroded during mitosis, telomere length indicates the replicative history of human somatic cells. Clinical markers of ageing�such as pulse pressure and survival�are associated with telomere length. On the basis of findings of studies in twins, telomere length seems to be familial, but little is known about its mode of inheritance. We aimed to investigate the inheritance of telomere length.

Methods

We measured terminal restriction fragment (TRF) length in white-blood-cell DNA taken from individuals from the family-based cohort of the Flemish Study on Environment, Genes, and Health Outcomes.

Findings

We recorded no correlation in sex and age adjusted TRF length between spouses (r=−0�05; p=0�70) nor between fathers and sons (r=−0�16; p=0�35). By contrast, we noted robust correlations in TRF length between fathers and daughters (r=0�60; p<0�0001); between mothers and sons (r=0�41; p=0�0017) and daughters (r=0�59; p<0�0001); and among siblings (r=≥0�61; p≤0�0004).

Interpretation

X-linked inheritance of TRF length is the most probable explanation for our findings. Pending confirmation, our observations suggest that the process of ageing might be an X-linked trait. Personal print + online subscription

a Study Coordinating Centre, Laboratory of Hypertension, Department of Molecular and Cardiovascular Research, University of Leuven, Campus Gasthuisberg, Herestraat 49, B-3000 Leuven, Belgium

b Hypertension Research Center, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, New Jersey Medical School, Newark, NJ, USA

Correspondence to: Dr Jan A Staessen

Leukocyte Telomere Length and Cardiovascular Disease in the Cardiovascular Health Study -- Fitzpatrick et al. 165 (1): 14 -- American Journal of Epidemiology

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/165/1/14?ck=nck

Telomere length in leukocytes correlates with bone mineral density and is shorter in women with osteoporosis

Journal	Osteoporosis International
Publisher	Springer London
ISSN	0937-941X (Print) 1433-2965 (Online)
Issue	Volume 18, Number 9 / September, 2007
Category	Original Article
DOI	10.1007/s00198-007-0357-5
Pages	1203-1210
Subject Collection	Medicine
SpringerLink Date	Friday, March 09, 2007

http://www.springerlink.com/content/d3726777034264p2/

A. M. Valdes¹, J. B. Richards¹, J. P. Gardner², R. Swaminathan³, M. Kimura², L. Xiaobin², A. Aviv² and T. D. Spector¹

(1)	Twin Research & Genetic Epidemiology Unit, King�s College London, St Thomas� Hospital Campus, London, SE1 7EH, UK

(2)	Center of Human Development and Aging, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, New Jersey Medical School, Newark, NJ, USA

(3)	Department of Chemical Pathology, St Thomas� Hospital, London, UK

Received: 11 December 2006 Accepted: 7 February 2007 Published online: 9 March 2007

Abstract

Summary Telomere length decreases with age and is associated with osteoblast senescence. In 2,150 unselected women, leukocyte telomere length was significantly correlated with bone mineral density. Clinical osteoporosis was associated with shorter telomeres, suggesting that telomere length can be used as a marker of bone aging.

Introduction The length of telomeres in proliferative cells diminishes with age. Telomere shortening and telomerase activity have been linked to in vitro osteoblast senescence and to increased secretion of pro-inflammatory cytokines. We explored whether bone mineral density correlates with telomere length in leukocytes.

Materials and methods The relationship between leukocyte telomere length, bone mineral density (BMD) and osteoporosis (as defined by the World Health Organization) was examined in a cohort of 2,150 women from a population-based twin cohort aged 18�79.

Results After adjusting for age, body mass index, menopausal status, smoking, hormone replacement therapy status, telomere length was positively correlated with BMD of the spine (p < 0.005), forearm (p < 0.013), but not the femoral neck (p < 0.06). Longer telomeres were associated with reduced the risk of clinical OP at two or more sites (odds ratio = 0.594 95% CI 0.42�0.84 p < 0.003) and in women over the age of 50, clinical osteoporosis was associated with 117 bp shorter telomere length (p < 0.02) equivalent to 5.2 years of telomeric aging.

Conclusions Shortened leukocyte telomere length is independently associated with a decrease in BMD and the presence of osteoporosis in women. Our data provide evidence that leukocyte telomere length could be a marker of biological aging of bone.

Keywords Aging - Bone mineral density - C-reactive protein - Inflammation - Osteoporosis - Telomere

Insulin resistance, oxidative stress, hypertension, and leukocyte telomere length in men from the Framingham Heart Study

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118614007/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

S. Demissie ¹ , D. Levy ² , E. J. Benjamin ³ , L. A. Cupples ¹ , J. P. Gardner ⁴ , A. Herbert ³ , M. Kimura ⁴ , M. G. Larson ² , J. B. Meigs ⁵ , J. F. Keaney ⁵ and A. Aviv ⁴

¹ Boston University School of Public Health, Department of Biostatistics, Boston, MA, USA
² The National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute's Framingham Heart Study, Bethesda, MD, USA
³ Evans Memorial Department of Medicine, Boston, MA, USA
⁴ The Center of Human Development and Aging, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Newark, NJ, USA
⁵ General Medicine Division and Department of Medicine, Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA, USA

Correspondence Abraham Aviv, MD, The Center of Human Development and Aging, Room F-464, MSB, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, New Jersey Medical School, 185 South Orange Ave, Newark, NJ 07103, USA. Tel.: 973-972-5280; fax: 973-972-5576; e-mail: avivab@...

Copyright � 2006 The Authors Journal compilation � Blackwell Publishing Ltd/Anatomical Society of Great Britain and Ireland 2006

KEYWORDS

accelerated aging � disease � insulin/IGF-1 signalling � life span � oxidative stress � telomeres

Summary

Insulin resistance and oxidative stress are associated with accelerated telomere attrition in leukocytes. Both are also implicated in the biology of aging and in aging-related disorders, including hypertension. We explored the relations of leukocyte telomere length, expressed by terminal restriction fragment (TRF) length, with insulin resistance, oxidative stress and hypertension. We measured leukocyte TRF length in 327 Caucasian men with a mean age of 62.2 years (range 40�89 years) from the Offspring cohort of the Framingham Heart Study. TRF length was inversely correlated with age (r = �0.41, P < 0.0001) and age-adjusted TRF length was inversely correlated with the Homeostatic Model Assessment of Insulin Resistance (HOMA-IR) (r =�0.16, P = 0.007) and urinary 8-epi-PGF_2α (r = �0.16, P = 0.005) � an index of systemic oxidative stress. Compared with their normotensive peers, hypertensive subjects exhibited shorter age-adjusted TRF length (hypertensives = 5.93 � 0.042 kb, normotensives = 6.07 � 0.040 kb, P = 0.025). Collectively, these observations suggest that hypertension, increased insulin resistance and oxidative stress are associated with shorter leukocyte telomere length and that shorter leukocyte telomere length in hypertensives is largely due to insulin resistance.

A Percentage Analysis of the Telomere Length in Parkinson's Disease Patients

Jing Zhi Guan, Toyoki Maeda, Masahiro Sugano, Jun-ichi Oyama, Yoshihiro Higuchi, Tomokazu Suzuki and Naoki Makino

http://biomed.gerontologyjournals.org/cgi/content/full/63/5/467

¹ Division of Molecular and Clinical Gerontology, Department of Molecular and Cellular Biology and ² Division of Clinical Genetics, Department of Molecular Genetics, Medical Institute of Bioregulation, Kyushu University, Fukuoka, Japan.

Address correspondence to Toyoki Maeda, MD, PhD, 4546, Tsurumihara, Beppu, Oita, 874-0838, Japan. E-mail: maedat@...

Abstract

Telomeres are the repeated sequences at the chromosome endswhich undergo shortening with cell division. The telomere shorteningof the peripheral leukocytes is also facilitated by enhancedoxidative stress in various kinds of disease including ischemicheart disease, diabetes mellitus, apoplexy, and Alzheimer'sdisease. Telomere shortening in Parkinson's disease (PD) hasnot yet been reported. The pathogenesis for PD is also regardedto be associated with oxidative stress. We investigated 28 Japanesemale PD patients ages 47�69. Although we could not finda statistical difference in the mean telomere length of peripheralleukocytes between the PD patients and the control participants,we found the mean telomere lengths to be shorter than 5 kb inonly the PD patients and a significant PD-associated decreasein the telomeres with a length ranging from 23.1 to 9.4 kb inthe patients in their 50s and 60s. These observations suggestthat telomere shortening is accelerated in PD patients in comparisonto the normal population.

Key Words: Telomere � Parkinson's disease � Aging � Oxidative stress � Cell senescence

TELOMERES are the extreme ends of chromosomal DNA, and theyare involved in maintaining cellular stability (1,2). They becomeprogressively shorter after repeated cell division because theDNA polymerase cannot fully complete the replication of the3' end of linear DNA (3), so the telomere shortening has beenregarded to represent cellular aging. Moreover, the mean telomerelength of peripheral leukocytes becomes shorter with aging (3�5).This telomere shortening of peripheral leukocytes indicatesthat the telomere can be a tool to evaluate not only cellularaging but also systemic aging.

Recently, the telomere length in peripheral blood cells hasbeen used as the primary model in attempts to decipher linksamong aging, age-related disorders, and telomere dynamics inhumans (6). Acceleration of telomere shortening in peripheralblood cells of people with an age-related disease has been suggestedto be related to increased systemic oxidative stress and chronicinflammation in the disease condition (6,7). It was suggestedthat terminal restriction fragment (TRF) measurement in easilyaccessible specimens such as peripheral blood could serve asa surrogate parameter for the relative telomere length in othertissues (8), and peripheral blood leukocytes are an excellentsource for investigating how telomeres shorten (9). Therefore,telomere shortening in peripheral blood leukocytes can servenot only as a marker of aging but as that of the accumulatedoxidative stress and chronic inflammation, which can be an indicatorof systemic pathological stress accompanying disease conditions(10). For example, the mean leukocyte TRF length in myocardialinfarction patients was significantly shorter than that of thecontrols and increased the risk of myocardial infarction byapproximately 3-fold (11). Similarly, the telomeres of endothelialcells associated with coronary atherosclerosis were markedlyshortened, suggesting that they may play a pathogenic role incoronary arterial diseases (12).

Pathophysiological telomere shortening in peripheral blood cellshas been also reported in other various pathological conditions(including diabetes mellitus, Alzheimer's disease, smoking,and obesity) and in mothers with a high degree of psychologicalstress related to child care for ill children (13�16).Under these conditions, it is suggested that telomere erosion-inducingfactors including oxidative stress and accelerated cell turnoverare associated with pathogenesis of the pathological conditions.

Parkinson's disease (PD) is a neurodegenerative disorder thatis characterized by a progressive degeneration of dopamine-containingneurons. The oxidative stress hypothesis (17) and chronic inflammationon the dopaminergic cells of the substantia nigra (18) havebeen supported by previous studies (19�21). A number oftherapies targeting inflammation and mitochondrial dysfunction,which can be caused by abnormally or excessively enhanced oxidativestress, are efficacious in the model of PD (19). From thesereports, it can be hypothesized that telomere length shorteningmay be accelerated in PD patients. Telomere length in peripheralleukocytes can be an indicator of systemic PD-associated damagescaused by oxidative stress and increased leukocyte turnoverwith chronic inflammation, which accelerate age-related telomerelength changes. So far, there has been no report of telomereshortening in PD. As a result, we decided to analyze PD-associatedtelomere length change.

We attempted to analyze the telomere length distribution addingto an analysis of the mean telomere length. Organ-specific telomerelength change of rate with aging was determined, not by comparingthe mean telomere length change, but by comparing the telomerelength distribution among various organs, thus indicating thatanalysis of telomere length distribution can more sensitivelydetect telomere length change than can an analysis of the meantelomere length (22). Our previous study showed that size distributionof telomere length in healthy Japanese persons also providedconfounding aspects of age- and gender-related telomere change(5). We previously reported that percentages of telomeres longerthan 9.4 kb and shorter than 4.4 kb reflected aging-relatedmean TRF (mTRF) shortening with higher sensitivity than thesimple mTRF-based analysis. We herein analyzed PD patients whowere mainly in their 50s and 60s. A combined analysis with mTRFand telomere length distribution is expected to be helpful todetect aging- and PD-related telomere length change in sucha small age range. We therefore decided to analyze not onlymTRF but size distribution of telomere length in peripheralleukocytes in PD patients in comparison to the healthy controlsto detect any slight differences in the telomere length betweenthem.

MATERIALS AND METHODS

Study Population
Male PD patients visiting the outpatient clinic of the KyushuUniversity Beppu Advanced Medical Center from April 2002 throughMarch 2005 were enrolled, and some of their male family membersand some of our hospital's healthy male workers, who never smokedand passed a regular medical check-up within a year before theenrollment, were also enrolled as the normal controls. The presentresearch was performed, following the approval by the ConjointHealth Research Ethics Board of Kyushu University, and writtenconsent was obtained from all the participants. DNA sampleswere obtained from peripheral leukocytes of 28 de novo malePD patients diagnosed according to the Japan Parkinson's DiseaseSociety Brain Bank criteria. The participants ranged in agefrom 47 to 69 years. In terms of disease severity, all the PDpatients were classified into stage 1 or stage 2 of the Hoehn�Yahrclassification. Blood samples were collected from the patientsbefore administration of anti-Parkinson agents started. Bloodsamples were drawn, using heparinized syringes and 10 mL Vacutainertubes and were stratified into 10-year age groups. We added>20 times the volume of 10 mM Tris-HCl, 1 mM EDTA (pH 8.0)to the blood sample to remove erythrocytes by lowering osmoticpressure. Next, peripheral leukocytes were collected by centrifugation.To lessen the substantial confounding effects of sex, smoking,and ethnicity on telomere length, all participants were Japanesemen and were never smokers. The participants were similar regardingfamily income, level of physical activity, and socioeconomicstatus. In addition, 27 healthy control participants were enrolled,matched for gender and lifestyle.

Telomeric Length Measurement
The telomeric length was measured as previously described (3,6,22).Briefly, genomic DNA was extracted from peripheral leukocytespecimens using PureGene DNA Extraction Kits (Gentra Systems,Minneapolis, MN), and the quality was assessed by agarose gelelectrophoresis. Aliquots of DNA (1 �g) were used fora conventional Southern blot hybridization analysis, using a500-bp-long (TTAGGG)n digoxigenin-labeled probe specific fortelomeric repeats. The telomeric repeat probe used here is 500bp long (this length is much longer than that of conventionaloligonucleotide telomere probes commonly used). This long probeyields dense signals and enables one to clearly detect telomeresshorter than 4.4 kb according to a Southern blot analysis (Figure 1).The blotted membranes were incubated with anti-digoxigenin-alkalinephosphatase-specific antibody. The telomere probe was visualizedby CSPD (C₁₈H₂₀ClO₇PNa₂) (Boehringer Mannheim GmbH, Mannheim,Germany). The membrane was then exposed to Fuji XR film withan intensifying screen (FUJIFILM Corporation, Tokyo, Japan).The smears of the autoradiogram were captured on an Image Master(Trioptics Japan, Shizuoka), and then the telomere length wasquantitatively assessed (Figure 1). Each Southern blot experimentwas repeated twice, and the mean value was used. Age and mTRFof all participants are shown in Table 1.

TRF Analysis
Cherif and coworkers (22) and Hemann and colleagues (23) showedthat a loss of a few hundred base pairs from short telomerescould have an important affect on cellular aging but may notbe detected by traditional mTRF analyses. In this study, thetelomere length was therefore compared using a telomere percentageanalysis with four intervals of length defined by molecularweight standards. This method has previously been used to determinethe change of telomeres in rats (22). In the present study,this method was applied to determine the change of telomerelength distribution in human leukocytes. In brief, the intensityof photo-stimulated luminescence (PSL) was quantified as follows:Each telomeric sample was divided into grid squares accordingto the molecular size ranges: 23.1 23.1�9.4 > 9.4,9.4 9.4�6.6 > 6.6, 6.6 6.6�4.4 > 4.4, and4.4 4.4�2.3 > 2.3 kb. The percentage of PSL in eachmolecular weight range was measured (%PSL = intensity of a definedregion � background x 100/total lane intensity �background). The mTRF was estimated using the formula (ODi �background)/(ODi � background/Li) (24), where ODi is thechemiluminescent signal and Li is the length of the TRF fragmentat position i.

Statistical Analysis
The normality of the data was examined with the Kolmogorov�Smirnovtest and the homogeneity of variance with the Levene Mediantest. If both the normal distribution and equal variance testswere passed, the differences in the telomeres length includingthe mTRF length and the telomere percentage analysis with ageand condition (PD patients or age-matched healthy controls)were studied using a two-way analysis of variance (ANOVA) testfollowed by all pairwise multiple comparison procedures usingTukey's post hoc test.

The data are expressed as the mean � standard deviation.The criterion for the significance is p <.05. All analyseswere carried out using a Sigma Statistical Analysis softwarepackage (Sigma 2.03, 2001; St. Louis, MO).

RESULTS

Correlation Between mTRF and Aging in PD Patients and Controls
mTRFs were compared between the PD patients and the age-matchedcontrols. Telomere shortening with aging was observed both inthe PD groups and the age-matched controls; telomere shorteningrate of the PD patients (�131 bp/year) seemed to be fasterthan that of the controls (�52.4 bp/year) (Figure 2).However, no statistically significant mTRF difference was detectedbetween the 50s and the 60s both in the PD patients and in thecontrols , although mTRF of the PD patients apparently seemedto be longer in patients in their 50s and shorter in those intheir 60s than that of the normal controls (Table 2). However,mTRF shorter than 5 kb was only observed in the PD patients.mTRFs of the controls were always longer than 5 kb in all ageranges in this study. This finding is compatible with thoseof previous reports, which showed that mTRF of peripheral leukocytesof the normal population is always longer than 5 kb age independently(25,26). These short telomeres (<5 kb) implied an aspectof PD condition associated with an over-shortening of the telomerelength.

Difference of Telomere Length Distribution with Aging Between PD Patients and Age-Matched Healthy Controls
Some significant telomere length differences with aging betweenthe PD patients and the controls were detected in the telomerepercentage analysis. A significant age-related change in telomerelength in the 23.1�9.4 kb range was observed only in thePD patients (Figure 3). The significant increase in the percentagein the 9.4�6.6 kb range in the PD patients in comparisonto the controls was observed in patients in their 60s. Therewas a significant decrease in the percentage of telomeres measuring4.4�2.3 kb in the PD patients in comparison to the decreasein that of the controls (this is observed in participants intheir 50s but not in their 60s) (Figure 3). This finding indicatedthat the longest telomeres (23.1�9.4 kb) were decreasingin the PD patients, but not in the controls during their 50sand 60s (28.8 � 1.9 to 21.4 � 1.4, p <.01).The decrease of the number of telomeres in the 23.1�9.4kb range seemed to be accelerated in the PD patients from their50s to their 60s. The significant increase of telomeres in the9.4�6.6 kb range in the PD patients in their 60s in comparisonto the controls may correspond to the significant decrease inthe number of the longest telomeres (23.1�9.4 kb) in patientsfrom their 50s to 60s (Figure 3). The same kind of telomerelength change was reported in our previous study about aging-associatedtelomere length change in a Japanese healthy population. Thetelomeres longer than 9.4 kb were decreasing faster in men thanin women (from their 20s to 30s), and a corresponding relativeincrease of the second longest (9.4�6.6 kb) telomereswas observed in men in comparison to women (5).

The percentage of the shortest range of telomere (4.4�2.3kb) was significantly lower in the PD patients than in the controls,especially in persons in their 50s, and the statistical differencedisappeared in their 60s. These findings indicate that longtelomeres are decreasing and short telomeres are increasingwith aging, and these events occur more rapidly in PD, thussuggesting that telomere shortening is more rapid in PD patientsduring their 50s and 60s compared to the normal population.From our results, the telomere percentage analysis method alsoturned out to be a more sensitive method in detecting telomericlength changes with aging in PD than was the mTRF analysis.

DISCUSSION

To our knowledge, this is the first study about telomere lengthchanges in PD patients. From the comparison of the correlationof mTRF regression and aging between the PD patients and thenormal controls shown in Figure 2, the mTRF decrease was seeminglyfaster in PD than in the controls. The accelerated telomereshortening was not confirmed by analysis of mTRF but by thatof telomere length distribution in the PD patients and the controls.The significant differences in the telomere length percentageprofile confirmed a tendency of an acceleration of telomerelength shortening in the PD patients in the mTRF analysis. Itis concluded from these results of mTRF and the telomere lengthpercentage profiles that telomere shortening was acceleratedin PD patients from their 50s to their 60s, compared to controls.It has been reported that telomeres of peripheral leukocytesare shortened with aging, and the shortening is acceleratedby various disease conditions (5,11,12,16,17,22,24,27). Theaging-related telomere shortening accompanies a decrease inthe number of longest-range telomeres (23.1�9.4 kb) andan increase in the number of telomeres shorter than 4.4 kb.In this context, a lower percentage of the telomeres shorterthan 4.4 kb represents a younger pattern of telomere lengthdistribution of peripheral blood leukocytes. The observed patternof the telomere length distribution in the PD patients in their50s appeared to be a younger pattern of the controls. However,the increase in the number of shorter telomeres was acceleratedfrom the 50s to the 60s in PD patients. The PD patients in their50s seem to bear a telomere length distribution pattern thatlooks like a pattern of a younger person, but reveal more rapidtelomere shortening after that, supported by the decrease inthe number of long telomeres (23.1�9.4 kb) and the increasein the number of short telomeres (4.4�2.3 kb), comparedto controls. These results suggested that the acceleration oftelomere shortening was associated with PD condition ratherthan was mTRF itself. Telomeres shorter than 5 kb were not observedin the controls. These short telomeres can also be regardedas a result of the enhanced telomere shortening in PD. Recenthuman and animal studies indicate that oxidative stress andneuroinflammation are related to the etiopathogenesis of PD(3�5,9,17,19,26�32).

Enhanced oxidative DNA damage in peripheral blood cells of PDpatients has been reported (17,32�34). The increased sensitivityto oxidative stress may be associated with provoking neuroinflammation(35,36) as a possible predisposition for PD. These observationscan be reflected in the telomere length alteration in PD describedin the present study. Enhanced oxidative stress and neuroinflammationcan induce acceleration of telomere shortening as a predisposingfactor for the etiopathogenesis of PD. The accelerated shorteningof the telomeres and the presence of an mTRF shorter than 5kb in the PD patients can be caused by increasing oxidativestress with neuroinflammation. The present findings suggestthat the telomere length study in peripheral leukocytes in patientscan reflect an instructive and representative change in PD.The pathogenetic process of PD is active for a long time priorto the diagnosis of PD, and the long period of inflammationand oxidative damage may cause a chronic enhancement of leukocyteturnover. However, the present study indicates that PD conditionis associated not with shortened mTRF but with accelerationof telomere shortening. The PD-pathogenetic affects do not appearon a telomere length profile at least until a person is in hisor her 50s. PD symptoms seem to become overt when the PD pathogenesis-associatedeffects appear as an acceleration of telomere shortening. Itseems that accumulated oxidative stress for PD pathogenesishas no effect on telomere shortening before the 50s and yieldsPD symptoms and telomere erosion thereafter. Strangely, thepercentage of the shortest range of telomeres (4.4�2.3kb) in the 50s was lower in the PD patients than in the controls.We cannot explain the younger pattern of telomere length distributionin PD patients in their 50s in association with PD pathogenesis,so far. The onset of PD seems to relate to an increased telomereshortening rate but not to telomere length shortness. The PDsymptoms would appear after a long disease-predisposing period,during which oxidative stress or neuroinflammation might havechronic harmful effects on the brain parenchyma and telomereshortening of peripheral leukocytes became accelerated to anextent. Although many studies have shown that various pathophysiologicalconditions are associated with the shortening of mTRF in humanblood cells, there was no difference in the mTRF length betweenthe PD patients and the controls. However, there were some significantdifferences in telomere-length distribution observed based ona telomere length percentage analysis. This observation indicatesthat pathological telomeric status is not detectable by a simpleanalysis of the mean telomere length in some diseases, includingPD. The onset of symptoms of diseases like PD may appear afterthe acceleration of telomere shortening starts. It is unclearwhy PD onset is not associated with the shortness of telomeresize but with the accelerated rate of shortening of the telomere.Large-scale, long-term cohort studies of the normal populationwill elucidate how the acceleration of telomere shortening andthe onset of chronic diseases like PD are associated. Furtherstudy is also necessary to clarify whether anti-Parkinson agentscan prevent the acceleration of telomere shortening.

Acknowledgments

This work was supported, in part, by a Grant-in-Aid from theMinistry of Education, Science, and Culture of Japan and bya Grant-in-Aid from Chiyoda Mutual Life Foundation.

We thank Ms. Yasuko Ueda and Ms. Sachiyo Taguchi for their valuabletechnical assistance. We also thank Dr. Brian Quinn for linguisticadvice.

Tomokazu Suzuki is now with Kinki Central Hospital, Itami-city,Hyogo, Japan.

Drs. Guan and Maeda contributed equally to the preparation ofthis manuscript.

Published Online First: 17 November 2006. doi:10.1136/ard.2006.059188
Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases 2007;66:476-480

EXTENDED REPORT

Reduced telomere length in rheumatoid arthritis is independent of disease activity and duration

http://ard.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/66/4/476

Sophia E Steer¹, Frances M K Williams², Bernet Kato², Jeffry P Gardner⁵, Paul J Norman³, Margaret A Hall^1,*, Masayuki Kimura⁵, Robert Vaughan⁴, Abraham Aviv⁵, Tim D Spector²

¹ Department of Rheumatology, King�s College London School of Medicine at Guy�s, King�s and St Thomas�, London, UK
² Twin Research and Genetic Epidemiology Unit, Kings College London School of Medicine at Guy�s, King�s and St Thomas�, London, UK
³ Department of Structural Biology, Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, California, USA
⁴ Clinical Transplantation Laboratory, Guy�s and St Thomas Foundation Trust and King�s College, London, UK
⁵ The Center of Human Development and Aging, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Newark, New Jersey, USA

Correspondence to:
Correspondence to:
Professor T Spector
Twin Research and Genetic Epidemiology Unit, Kings College London School of Medicine at Guy�s, King�s and St Thomas�, London SE1 7EH, UK; tim.spector@...

Background: Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is associated with reducedlifespan and shortened telomere length in lymphocytes, but themechanism underlying this is unclear. Telomere loss in whiteblood cells (WBC) is accelerated by oxidative stress and inflammationin vitro. It was postulated that the accelerated WBC telomereshortening in RA occurs as a result of exposure to chronic inflammation.

Objectives: To measure telomere terminal restriction fragment(TRF) length in a large cohort of RA cases and healthy controls,to explore associations of TRF length with features of diseaseand with RA-associated HLA-DRB1 alleles.

Methods: WBC and TRF length were measured by Southern blot inDNA from 176 hospital-based RA cases satisfying the 1987 AmericanCollege of Rheumatology criteria and from 1151 controls. TRFlength was compared between cases and controls, and the effectsof disease duration, severity and HLA-DRB1 alleles encodingthe shared epitope (SE) were assessed.

Results: Age- and sex-adjusted TRF length was significantlyshorter in RA cases compared with controls (p<0.001). Therewas no association between age- and sex-adjusted TRF lengthand disease duration, C reactive protein or Larsen score. Thepresence of one or more SE-encoding alleles was associated withreduced adjusted TRF length in RA cases (SE positive vs SE negativecases, p = 0.038), but not in controls.

Conclusion: The reduced TRF length in a large group of patientswith RA compared with controls has been shown. The reductionis apparently independent of disease duration and markers ofdisease severity, but is influenced by HLA-DRB1 genotype.

Abbreviations: CRP, C reactive protein; DAS28, disease activity score calculated using 28 joint count; DMARD, disease-modifying anti-rheumatic drug; mHAQ, modified Health Assessment Questionnaire; RA, rheumatoid arthritis; SE, shared epitope; TRF, terminal restriction fragment; WBC, white blood cell

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Wow!

I just opened my mail this afternoon, to find that I'd received the new copy of Nenah's updated Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy - ISBN # 978-0-9818075-0-8 book.

Wow! Nenah! You've done it again! There is over 700 pages of incredible information on all sorts of various health issues, which are all meticulously indexed, and arranged in alphabetical order, by the category you'd expect to find it... In other words, all the bacterias are in one section, Mycoplamas in one section, etc....

As in her other books, the original Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy, and the Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy, this new edition is beautifully typeset, and has all sorts of bonus information that is a gift, as you really receive so much more than you expect to receive- when you purchase a Rife Frequency book. Yes, she gives a great historical background on the therapy, but also gives a understandable explanation of how frequencies work, the several types of frequencies that you can pulse, the various types of devices (with many pictures) that use Rife frequencies (including lasers), other types of energy medicine including herbs, color and sound, and a good section on the politics of Holistic Healing vs. Mainstream Medical.

This is a large book, packed full of a Symphony of Health Information, featuring Rife, but so much more; A great reference that should be available for all to read, learn and refer to.

Well done Nenah!

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contact Judith Directly.

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Hi...I'm new to your group and would like to let everyone know that
I'm selling a LazrPulsr 4X, Professional MK 3.  This unit was
purchased by a friend less than two years ago.  It's still under
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It comes with a carrying case and four booklets/manuals.

Here is the address for the manufacturer's  website:
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As many of you know, these items are expensive, approximately $7500.
I'm asking $4900, but this is likely negotiable.

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Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:15 pm
Subject: Light at the end of the Tunnel - Nerve Repair

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Lasers?

Dinsha Light Therapy?

Interesting!!!

New Scientist online-news, Nov. 17, 2008

Rats with breathing problems caused by damage to their nerves have
had normal breathing restored by bursts of visible light aimed onto
the spinal cord.

This achievement raises hopes that a miniature light source implanted
near the spine might one day allow people with similar injuries to
breathe normally.

A similar device might be used to relieve constriction of the bladder
caused by nerve damage.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026823.900-broken-nerves-can-be-fixed-in-a-flash.html?

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Thank you so much for the information.

J. A.

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Is anyone aware of specific frequencies that have been found to be
effective in the treatment of H.pylori? Thank you so much for any
suggestions.

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Hey JA!

Go to the CAFL The Consolidated Annotated Frequency List..... and see what you think about this list...

http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/index.htm

Helicobacter_pylori (ulcer. Run 676 for 10 min, 676*) - 2950, 2819, 2779, 2167, 880, 728, 705, 695, 676, 352, 347
Helicobacter_pylori_1 - 2167, 728, 880, 2950
Helicobacter_pylori_2 - 695, 2779, 705, 2819
Helicobacter_pylori_3 - 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8

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Is anyone aware of specific frequencies that have been found to be
effective in the treatment of H.pylori?  Thank you so much for any
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Date: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:43 pm
Subject: Using a laser motion finger modes to work on brain

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This was posted back in 06. I like to read and do book reports on what I'm reading, so this was an aborted work in progress. I think my eldest daughter put it in the drafts folder when she wanted to use the computer, and I didn't realize that it hadn't been finished or posted...until later. Sorry for the break-off at the end.

Jennifer

10/7/06

Somehow, this post was in my Drafts folder, not having been sent, and not even finished.... I don't remember what I was going to say.... from that long ago, but thought I'd go ahead and finish sending it, on the chance that it may be helpful to someone.

Jennifer

4/13/006 Yesterday, I received the latest in my series of reading adventures; an incredible book called A Revolutionary Way of Thinking by Dr. Charles Krebs.

I had heard about it, but didn't know what to expect, as I've read a lot on the work of another Krebs who dealt with homeopathic remedies, so didn't know if this was related or not. Not.

This book is about a scientist who was injured in a diving expedition, and was paralyzed and was probably the longest person to ever live in a decompression chamber. Because of his paralysis, he drew on his previous knowledge of Chi through his Karate training, and decided to become proactive in his healing. He went from being diagnosed in the HBO chamber as a Quad, to coming out as a paraplegic, and taught himself to walk again.

He goes through the history of Kinesiology, how Goodheart put different pieces together, to create the initial AK system, then how other people have contributed and changed it into what it has branched out to be. Some of this is pretty fascinating stuff! I read from 8pm or so, and I'm already

111 pages into this 413 page book.

Around page 57 or so, he discusses a Dr. Paul Dennison, a Chiropractor who was very dyslexic, and began learning Thie's Touch for Health, and developed it into the Brain Gym program that he now teaches.

He discusses improper coordination of brain activity, and the use of cross-crawl and homolateral crawl to help reintegrate the brain's functions.

I'm thinking that if one had a laser, or two, that one could possibly use the Brain program #16 on the Cerebellum, and the #3 Neuro-Reeducation program on the cervical - WHILE the person was doing these exercises, and really expedite and stabilize progress made effectively to the brain's efficiency.

Krebs spends a bit of time going over hand modes from Beardall which I've always been interested in.

Thumb to Index finger responds to Structural Stress

Thumb to Middle finger responds to Nutritional Stress

Thumb to Ring finger responds to Emotional Stress and

Thumb to Little finger responds to Energetic stresses such as Chi meridian imbalances.

One new method he discusses is something called ESR Emotional Stress Defusion. He has a little scenario that he describes how ESR might work.

Test in the clear. (strong) Have client/patient think of something particularly stressful. Muscletest unresolved subconscious stress around issue. (weak) Kinesiologist then touches ESD points on forehead and retests muscle.(strong) He explains this phenomena as the stress creating a frequency of imbalance. Holding the ESD points on the forehead also activates a frequency. If the frequency of the stress matches the frequency of the ESD points, the muscle will now lock strong. This is like tuning the radio into a particular frequency. Once the frequency of the station becomes one with the frequency of the radio, there is music. When the frequency of the thought is that of the emotional imbalance, it will match the frequency of the ESD points which will cause the change in the muscle response.

He then goes into how to determine when this emotional stress presented itself (similar to the NET method) going through the age groups so the limbic brain can inspect all her experiences, and assess how they relate to the current issue. Similar to NET as well, the book tries to pinpoint the WHO that may be involved. Then, checking the meridians for what may be involved, the touching

(I broke off there, so not sure what my thought process was while writing, but thought this was interesting.)

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From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
Date: Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:26 pm
Subject: Lasers & LEDs in Therapy.

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Hi!

I have a dear friend who I've known off the Rife list for more than 10 years who is the author of several technical books; one of which is on the subject of Rife technology. She recently was asked to write for the Townsend Letter for Doctors, and her document is online if you'd like to read it. She is a very gifted writer and you will be glad you spent the time looking into this technology, after reading her articles.

http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMarch2008/healelectro0208.htm Part One

http://www.townsendletter.com/April2008/healelectro0408.htm Part Two

Yes, I do believe this can be useful in Reversing Autism, and also in dealing with the every day infections, parasites, inflammation, etc....

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Date: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:23 am
Subject: RE: Jennifer, Laser clearing

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Excellent, thanks!� This explains much for me.� My computer/CEDS/EAV device has a laser attachment that can output the frequency via laser, so I can see how to combine the methods.�

Thanks much,

Esther N. Shelley MBE, RHA, CBS, CNHP

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From: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Ruby
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Hi Esther!

I had previously posted this (copy and pasted directly below) so didn't explain this again. Sorry. I have a lot of vials (NAET and many others) and Dr. Graham is now putting these energies onto magnetic striped cards, similar to Credit Cards. They are much easier to mail, and don't break, as well as are pretty easy to hold in one's hand. This is what I was referring to. Sometimes, I have material dose of something (like aluminum) in a test vial, and that would be the real thing rather than a energetic copy, and this can be used as well to clear from.

Hope this is helpful,

Jennifer

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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question

Hi Nel!

I've been taught to utilize vials and energetic cards (what you're clearing) in the left hand, and then using the Allergy Program #35 to clear the left wrist (kidney reflex), Belly Button (blood), Colon point, Thymus gland, and Brain (forehead). In addition to these points, if needed, you can additionally clear other points needed like adrenals, liver, heart, stomach, pancreas, etc....

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Subject: RE: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Jennifer, Laser clearing

Hi Jennifer, I followed everything but the part I underlined below. I would have highlighted in color, but I wasn’t sure it would come through that way via yahoo. See below, then continue here: how do they hold that energy? Via thought energy? I understand that energy enters left, exits right hand. I don’t have the laserPulser, but I have the Q1000, and it has an immune setting I can use. If I imprint a vial of something that normalizes allergies from my computer program, then I can have them hold that to fine tune the protocol. If you could just clarify the point I underlined, the rest is quite clear to me.

Nice to think that these things can be done many ways because it’s the scientific principle behind it that makes it work!

God bless,

Esther N. Shelley MBE, RHA, CBS, CNHP

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From: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Ruby
Sent: September 27, 2008 9:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Jennifer, Laser clearing

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From: Esther

Subject: RE: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Jennifer, Laser clearing

Jennifer, can you explain how you ‘clear’ with a laser? My oldest son has autism, and I’m curious how to make my work more beneficial to him.

Hi Esther!

From my own understanding, which may be flawed or incomplete, I understand that certain energies, whether it be just sensitivities to certain chemicals, or allergic reactions to various pollens, to severe allergies to heavy metals, to auto - immune responses to one's own tissues- when undigested proteins have breeched the bowel wall (gmo grains, and foods) and have penetrated the tissues and muscle wall outside colon where it shouldn't be thus initiating a "auto-immune" reaction from the body against it's own tissues.... which it tries to fight against what is there that shouldn't be there......

These processes, sometimes create antibodies, or inflammation, or over-reactions of autoimmune responses that are not appropriate - because the body is possibly confused? For whatever reason, certain things set the body off, and need to be brought back to neutral.... to be better equipped to deal with things normally.

When I have a person hold that energy in their left hand (energy coming in from the left side/going out on the right), and then use the LazrPulsr on setting #35 Allergies, and clear the kidney point on the left wrist, the Belly Button point (blood), the Colon reflex on left and lower than BB point, or any other indicated place - it brings the body's over reaction back down to a manageable response, to allow it to deal with things normally. If it's a toxin that needs to be released, it allows the body not to disguise it, or cover it up, and allows it to be released to be chelated or detoxed from the body in the normal course of things. This probably will need a bit of help to pull out, absorb, neutralize, cleanse, etc.... by way of clays, activated charcoal, chlorophyll, green juice, Lumbrokinase, homeopathic remedies, etc... to bring about a total release and synergistic cleanse of this initial toxin......... and once the body's been able to recognize it and it's immune system is reactivated to want to get rid of it, it is swept from the body and gotten rid of, and body can heal and rebuild it's immune system.

This doesn't happen overnight. It takes a while to get some things out, but the laser and homeopathy seem to work very well together, as synergistic energy catalysts to help healing processes to begin.

I hope this is helpful.

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Hi Esther!

Hope this is helpful,

Jennifer

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Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question

Hi Nel!

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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:29 PM

Subject: RE: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Jennifer, Laser clearing

Hi Jennifer, I followed everything but the part I underlined below. I would have highlighted in color, but I wasn�t sure it would come through that way via yahoo. See below, then continue here: how do they hold that energy? Via thought energy? I understand that energy enters left, exits right hand. I don�t have the laserPulser, but I have the Q1000, and it has an immune setting I can use. If I imprint a vial of something that normalizes allergies from my computer program, then I can have them hold that to fine tune the protocol. If you could just clarify the point I underlined, the rest is quite clear to me.

Nice to think that these things can be done many ways because it�s the scientific principle behind it that makes it work!

God bless,

Esther N. Shelley MBE, RHA, CBS, CNHP

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www.openw2w.com

519.754.8759

From: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Ruby
Sent: September 27, 2008 9:03 PM
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----- Original Message -----

From: Esther

Subject: RE: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Jennifer, Laser clearing

Jennifer, can you explain how you �clear� with a laser? My oldest son has autism, and I�m curious how to make my work more beneficial to him.

Hi Esther!

From my own understanding, which may be flawed or incomplete, I understand that certain energies, whether it be just sensitivities to certain chemicals, or allergic reactions to various pollens, to severe allergies to heavy metals, to auto - immune responses to one's own tissues- when undigested proteins have breeched the bowel wall (gmo grains, and foods) and have penetrated the tissues and muscle wall outside colon where it shouldn't be thus initiating a "auto-immune" reaction from the body against it's own tissues.... which it tries to fight against what is there that shouldn't be there......

These processes, sometimes create antibodies, or inflammation, or over-reactions of autoimmune responses that are not appropriate - because the body is possibly confused? For whatever reason, certain things set the body off, and need to be brought back to neutral.... to be better equipped to deal with things normally.

When I have a person hold that energy in their left hand (energy coming in from the left side/going out on the right), and then use the LazrPulsr on setting #35 Allergies, and clear the kidney point on the left wrist, the Belly Button point (blood), the Colon reflex on left and lower than BB point, or any other indicated place - it brings the body's over reaction back down to a manageable response, to allow it to deal with things normally. If it's a toxin that needs to be released, it allows the body not to disguise it, or cover it up, and allows it to be released to be chelated or detoxed from the body in the normal course of things. This probably will need a bit of help to pull out, absorb, neutralize, cleanse, etc.... by way of clays, activated charcoal, chlorophyll, green juice, Lumbrokinase, homeopathic remedies, etc... to bring about a total release and synergistic cleanse of this initial toxin......... and once the body's been able to recognize it and it's immune system is reactivated to want to get rid of it, it is swept from the body and gotten rid of, and body can heal and rebuild it's immune system.

This doesn't happen overnight. It takes a while to get some things out, but the laser and homeopathy seem to work very well together, as synergistic energy catalysts to help healing processes to begin.

I hope this is helpful.

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

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Date: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:29 am
Subject: RE: Jennifer, Laser clearing

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Hi Jennifer, I followed everything but the part I underlined below.� I would have highlighted in color, but I wasn’t sure it would come through that way via yahoo.� See below, then continue here:� how do they hold that energy?� Via thought energy?� I understand that energy enters left, exits right hand.� I don’t have the laserPulser, but I have the Q1000, and it has an immune setting I can use. �If I imprint a vial of something that normalizes allergies from my computer program, then I can have them hold that to fine tune the protocol.� If you could just clarify the point I underlined, the rest is quite clear to me.

Nice to think that these things can be done many ways because it’s the scientific principle behind it that makes it work!

God bless,

Esther N. Shelley MBE, RHA, CBS, CNHP

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Subject: RE: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Jennifer, Laser clearing

Jennifer, can you explain how you ‘clear’ with a laser? My oldest son has autism, and I’m curious how to make my work more beneficial to him.

Hi Esther!

From my own understanding, which may be flawed or incomplete, I understand that certain energies, whether it be just sensitivities to certain chemicals, or allergic reactions to various pollens, to severe allergies to heavy metals, to auto - immune responses to one's own tissues- when undigested proteins have breeched the bowel wall (gmo grains, and foods) and have penetrated the tissues and muscle wall outside colon where it shouldn't be thus initiating a "auto-immune" reaction from the body against it's own tissues.... which it tries to fight against what is there that shouldn't be there......

These processes, sometimes create antibodies, or inflammation, or over-reactions of autoimmune responses that are not appropriate - because the body is possibly confused? For whatever reason, certain things set the body off, and need to be brought back to neutral.... to be better equipped to deal with things normally.

When I have a person hold that energy in their left hand (energy coming in from the left side/going out on the right), and then use the LazrPulsr on setting #35 Allergies, and clear the kidney point on the left wrist, the Belly Button point (blood), the Colon reflex on left and lower than BB point, or any other indicated place - it brings the body's over reaction back down to a manageable response, to allow it to deal with things normally. If it's a toxin that needs to be released, it allows the body not to disguise it, or cover it up, and allows it to be released to be chelated or detoxed from the body in the normal course of things. This probably will need a bit of help to pull out, absorb, neutralize, cleanse, etc.... by way of clays, activated charcoal, chlorophyll, green juice, Lumbrokinase, homeopathic remedies, etc... to bring about a total release and synergistic cleanse of this initial toxin......... and once the body's been able to recognize it and it's immune system is reactivated to want to get rid of it, it is swept from the body and gotten rid of, and body can heal and rebuild it's immune system.

This doesn't happen overnight. It takes a while to get some things out, but the laser and homeopathy seem to work very well together, as synergistic energy catalysts to help healing processes to begin.

I hope this is helpful.

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Date: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:03 am
Subject: Re: Jennifer, Laser clearing

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Jennifer, can you explain how you �clear� with a laser? My oldest son has autism, and I�m curious how to make my work more beneficial to him.

Hi Esther!

When I have a person hold that energy in their left hand (energy coming in from the left side/going out on the right), and then use the LazrPulsr on setting #35 Allergies, and clear the kidney point on the left wrist, the Belly Button point (blood), the Colon reflex on left and lower than BB point, or any other indicated place - it brings the body's over reaction back down to a manageable response, to allow it to deal with things normally. If it's a toxin that needs to be released, it allows the body not to disguise it, or cover it up, and allows it to be released to be chelated or detoxed from the body in the normal course of things. This probably will need a bit of help to pull out, absorb, neutralize, cleanse, etc.... by way of clays, activated charcoal, chlorophyll, green juice, Lumbrokinase, homeopathic remedies, etc... to bring about a total release and synergistic cleanse of this initial toxin......... and once the body's been able to recognize it and it's immune system is reactivated to want to get rid of it, it is swept from the body and gotten rid of, and body can heal and rebuild it's immune system.

I hope this is helpful.

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Date: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:23 pm
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Jennifer, can you explain how you ‘clear’ with a laser?� My oldest son has autism, and I’m curious how to make my work more beneficial to him.

Esther N. Shelley MBE, RHA, CBS, CNHP

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Kathy,

Kerry here, is one of the original reasons I got interested in Laser therapy. He's always been very helpful, knowledgeable, as has his son Sean.

I think that Synthetics in clothing of all types really tends to distort and possibly compromise if not block some of all of laser penetration, depending on color. Probably Frequency does penetrate better, as represented by years of Rife clinics where a roomful of people would sit and talk while frequency sets were run. Everyone would experience die-off/herx responses, and health benefits from these sessions. My feathered birds and black furred dogs benefited greatly from frequencies, which I'd think would equal a blouse at minimum or sweater on the average.

Homeopathy, works very well with Autism. I find that Clearing first with the laser opens the body up to the remedy working faster and deeper with less healing crisis's than without clearing first. (I'm talking about heavy metals, chemicals, molds, pathogens, etc...)

Yes, ask lots of questions, as you'll be a more informed consumer, and have a lot more information and pseudo experience once the laser is purchased.... won't feel so lost.

I'm glad you're here.

It's a good place to begin.

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Date: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:44 pm
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Symptomatic Relief of Herpetic Skin Lesions
Utilizing an Energy Based Approach to Healing
W. John Martin and Jon Stoneburner
Center for Complex Infectious Diseases
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Abstract

Herpes simplex virus induced oral and genital ulcerating lesions will fluoresce brightly yellow and yellow-orange, respectively, if treated with a chlorinated solution of photon lending powder and exposed to ultraviolet-A light. An orange to red fluorescence is seen with similarly treated and illuminated Herpes zoster virus induced shingles; while treated human papilloma virus induced genital warts display more of a purplish fluorescence. Pain and discomfort commonly disappear soon after the treatment and all lesions undergo expedited healing that is readily observable within 24 hours. The mechanism of healing is thought to involve an interaction between the photon lending powder red and alternative cellular energy pigments (ACE pigments) present within the viral lesions that enhances responsiveness to ultraviolet light energy. The healing effects are not restricted to the treated lesions and may involve transmission of a biological energy throughout the body. Beyond its obvious clinical and diagnostic utility, this model system may help usher in a new era of energy based medicine.

Key Words:

                        Photon lending powder
                        Ultraviolet light
                        Herpes simplex virus
                        Herpes zoster virus
                        Human papilloma virus
                        Alternative cellular energy pigments
                        Energy medicine

Introduction

Herpes simplex viruses (HSV) typically cause persistent latent infections within neurons that innervate mucosal and squamous epithelial surfaces in the oral and/or genital regions (Whitley, 2002). In susceptible individuals, the neuronal infection will periodically reactivate allowing virus to infect the innervated epithelium. Infection and the evoked anti-viral inflammatory reaction lead to the formation of infectious vesicles that will usually last for several days. The vesicles cause considerable physical and psychological distress as well as providing a means of virus transmission to previously uninfected individuals.

Conventional therapy of HSV lesions has involved the use of drugs that chemically inhibit virus DNA replication (Snoeck, 2000; Moomaw, et al., 2003). These include the nucleoside analogue Acyclovir which is selectively phosphorylated (activated) by HSV coded thymidine kinase. Less conventional and largely unproven approaches to therapy have been directed at either reducing stress levels and other factors that are thought to be involved in virus reactivation or enhancing the ability of the immune system to more effectively suppress a virus outbreak.

In the early 1970�s one of us (JS) observed the apparent destruction of HSV infected cells that were stained with a photon lending powder followed by exposure to ultraviolet light. This observation led to independent clinical studies that attempted to treat both genital and oral HSV skin lesions using a broad spectrum white light exposure of lesions stained with liquid photon powders. These studies failed to show any beneficial therapeutic effect (Myers et al., 1975, 1976). In spite of this and other negative studies, individuals treated by JS were clearly benefiting. The published procedures differed from the method used by JS in several respects. Specifically, JS was using ultraviolet light as opposed to a full spectrum or even regular white light; JS used a freshly prepared solution of photon lending powders to which he added a small quantity of sodium hypochlorite (bleach). Finally, JS regularly observed fluorescence of the exposed lesions.

The clinically effective procedure has been termed PAVIS for photo-activated virus improvement system. In addition to expediting the healing of HSV induced oral and genital lesions; PAVIS has been successfully applied to shingles caused by Herpes zoster virus (HZV) and to genital warts caused by human papillomavirus (HPV). This paper discusses the potential mode of action of PAVIS therapy in terms of energy activation of alternative cellular energy pigments (ACE pigments) that can develop in response to certain types of virus infection.

Materials and Methods

Following an IRB approved protocol, patients with oral or genital herpetic skin lesions were randomly assigned to either the photon lending powder or food coloring treatment group. Photon lending powder was purchased from Spectrum Chemical Manufacturing Corp., (Catalogue number NE 113). McCormicks Red Food Color containing FD&C Reds 40 and 3 food coloring was purchased from a local supermarket. On the days that patients were being seen, a moistened Q tip swab was placed into the photon lending powder such that the powder covered the entire Q tip (5-10 mg). This was then swirled into 10 ml of sterile water to which sodium hypochlorite (bleach) was added to a concentration of 0.02%. The food coloring was similarly dispensed to yield a solution of comparable red color. The patients were not informed at the time of treatment whether photon lending powder or food coloring was being applied. The HSV lesion was gently scrubbed or debrided to remove any scabs, and the vesicles or sacs were broken or punctured. A very slight degree of bleeding occasionally occurred. Either the photon lending powder or food coloring solution was applied to the area using a Q tip. The treated area was then exposed to an ultraviolet light source from a Wood�s or Burton�s lamp with an emission maximum of 365 nm. This wavelength falls within the region of non-hazardous ultraviolet light termed A1 (6). The lamp was held 3� away from the lesion. A similar procedure was followed for patients with shingles who had multiple skin lesions due to HZV.

Typically, the patients experienced a slight tingling sensation with the photon lending solution but not with food coloring. Furthermore, the photon lending treated oral HSV lesions regularly developed a bright yellow fluorescence with slight swelling and fluid extrusion. Either yellow or more commonly a yellow-orange shade of fluorescence was seen with genital HSV lesions. Photon lending solution and ultraviolet light illuminated HZV induced shingles displayed an orange to red fluorescence. No fluorescence was seen on uninvolved skin. The ultraviolet light exposure was terminated as soon as the tingling sensation ceased and/or the fluorescence had largely faded. These changes normally occurred after approximately 10-15 minutes. In any event, exposure of tingling or fluorescing photon lending solution treated lesions did not extend beyond 30 minutes. Non-tingling, non-fluorescing, food coloring-treated lesions were exposed to light for 15 minutes. The treated area in all patients was subsequently cleaned with soap and water to remove excess dye or coloring. A loose dry swab was placed over treated lesions. The patient was instructed to return in 24 hours and to report on whether a significant reduction in symptoms (pain and discomfort) had occurred beyond that of the patient�s prior experience. The lesion(s) was then re-examined and recorded as either remaining active or having become inactive with evidence of marked healing.

Several patients with HPV induced genital warts have also been treated. Multiple punctures were made through the surface of the wart using a fine 27 gauge needle. The photon lending solution or food coloring was then applied to the wart. The induced fluorescence was decidedly more purplish than with either HSV or HZV lesions. In some patients with multiple warts, only a single wart was treated with the photon lending solution.

Results

Symptomatic relief immediately following photon lending solution plus light therapy and unequivocal expedited healing, readily observable within a day of therapy, have occurred in several hundred previously treated patients with oral and genital HSV induced lesions. In the present study, patients were assigned to have either photon lending solution or a red food coloring applied to their skin lesions followed by exposure to ultraviolet-A light. Lesions to which the photon lending solution was applied exhibited either a bright yellow or a yellow-orange fluorescence usually beginning within a minute of turning on the ultraviolet light. As in previous studies, oral herpetic lesions would typically fluoresce yellow, while genital lesions more frequently displayed a yellow-orange color. The fluorescence generally lasted for about 10-15 minutes. Patients consistently reported some relief immediately following this therapy. Symptomatic relief was not reported by patients on whom food coloring was applied, nor was any fluorescence observed. At 24 hours all of the HSV skin lesions treated with the photon lending solution followed by ultraviolet-A light appeared inactive with normal skin growing over the remaining crusted area. The lesions in patients in whom food coloring was used remained active with no apparent signs of expedited healing. These patients were then informed that they had been included in the control group and were offered the opportunity to be treated with the photon lending solution. In each case, the newly treated lesion exhibited fluorescence and at 24 hours showed definite signs of expedited healing. Essentially similar results were obtained in patients with shingles and in several patients with genital warts. A tabulation of the results obtained in the ongoing study that has utilized food coloring as a control is provided in Table 1.

In earlier studies it was shown that it is necessary to use an ultraviolet lamp and that better results were obtainable using freshly prepared photon lending powder dissolved in chlorinated water. Several new observations were made in the present study. These include one patient for whom treatment was applied to an oral HSV lesion who reported expedited healing of an accompanying genital lesion. Similarly, in patients with multiple genital warts, it was observed that treatment of a single wart can lead to resolution of all of the patient�s warts. This was also observed in a patient with warts on the penis and on the dorsum of his foot. Treatment of the penile lesions led to regression of these lesions as well as lesions on the foot.

Discussion

Studies on cells infected with cell damaging (cytopathic) viruses that failed to provoke an inflammatory reaction in either patients or experimentally inoculated animals have been grouped under a generic heading of stealth-adapted viruses (Martin, 1994). Some of these viruses are unequivocally derived from African green monkey simian cytomegalovirus (a type of herpes virus). The cytopathic effect (CPE) of these viruses in tissue culture tends to be transient unless efforts are made to remove materials that form in the culture medium that promote cellular repair and suppress the virus induced CPE (Martin, 2003a). These pigmented materials are thought to provide an alternative (non-mitochondria) source of cellular energy. Consistent with this notion, particles obtained from stealth virus cultures show striking auto-fluorescence, electrostatic and electron donating activities. They can visibly resonate in response to certain sound frequencies and can occasionally display marked ferromagnetism. Similar complex intracellular structures have been observed by electron microscopy in brain biopsies of patients infected with stealth-adapted viruses (Martin, 2003b). These materials have been termed alternative cellular energy pigments (ACE pigments). Light, electrical, sound and magnetic energies, that have no appreciable effects on normal cultured cells, have been shown to affect, both positively and negatively depending on intensity, cell viability in stealth-adapted virus cultures (unpublished observations).

ACE pigments are likely to be involved in other types of viral infections as a non-immunological auxiliary defense and cellular repair mechanism. The present data are consistent with a role of ACE pigment-like materials in HSV, HZV and HPV induced skin lesions. Whatever the mechanism, this paper describes an effective, non-pharmaceutical approach to the therapy of these common viral diseases.

In addition to causing cutaneous and genital warts, HPV infection is the major cause of cervical cancer (Longworth, and Laimins, 2004). Papillomaviruses have been linked to various forms of human and animal cancers (Campo, 2002). Separate clinical trials are being planned to address the potential benefit of PAVIS therapy in cancer patients and in other types of viral diseases.

Photon lending powders can participate in electron exchange reactions, principally as an electron and proton donor (Park, and Zeikus, 2000). It can interact with stealth-adapted virus culture derived ACE pigments and enhance the fluorescence seen upon exposure to ultraviolet light. Photon lending solution is sensitive to light and reactivity diminishes over time. Chlorine and iodine are electron acceptors (oxidizing agents) and can enhance the reactivity of both photon lending powders and ACE pigments (unpublished observations). It is hypothesized, therefore, that freshly prepared Photon lending solution in the presence of chlorine exerts a synergistic effect on energy production by ACE pigments.

An energy gap exists between ultraviolet light and the evoked fluorescence. Moreover HSV, HZV and HPV induced lesions fluorescence differently. Apart from the potential diagnostic value of this observation, the question arises as to the form that is taken by the energy differential between that of the input ultraviolet light and the observed fluorescence. Arguably this energy does not remain localized to the treated lesion but can have a systemic healing effect.

A striking finding in patients with multiple skin lesions, in which only one or a few of the lesions were stained with photon lending solution was the expedited healing that occurred in untreated lesions. Interestingly, this same observation was made in an earlier published study in which healing of bilaterally symmetrical warts occurred in 10 of 23 patients in which the warts on one side of the body were given repeated applications of photon lending solution dissolved in dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) followed by exposure to ordinary white light (Veien, 1977). The finding was essentially dismissed because of simultaneous healing of untreated warts. The principles of biophysics allow for an energy effect to be readily transmitted throughout the body. This concept may explain the apparent but not yet formally documented reduction in the recurrence rate of HSV lesions in patients given PAVIS therapy. Other photo-active chemicals may work as well as, or even better than photon lending powders. Similarly virus induced lesions may respond directly to an ACE pigment activating energy source or to the direct application of the presumed biologically useful energy coming from activated ACE pigments.

Stealth-adapted viruses are not effectively controlled by the immune system because they lack the few critical virus components that are normally targeted by an effective anti-viral immune response (Martin, 1999). Stealth-adapted virus infected patients are, therefore, more dependent on an alternative healing process than are patients infected with conventional cytopathic viruses, such as HSV and HZV. One method under study is that of providing building blocks for ACE pigments and/or providing energy rich natural products with ACE pigment-like activities. These have included humic and fulvic acids (Nissenbaum, 1975), organically bound and free minerals from the ocean and lakes, such as the Great Salt Lake, and terpene and saponin rich volatile extracts from trees and plants (Pinder, 1960). These compounds have a long history of use by farmers for promoting vitality and reducing disease susceptibility of agricultural crops. They have also been successfully used as feed additives in livestock. In recent years, these substances have been consumed as dietary supplements by humans, including patients that display neuropsychiatric symptoms consistent with a stealth-adapted virus infection. Preliminary unpublished data are encouraging that these products are providing substantial relief from some of the symptoms experienced by these patients. Another approach that has been touted as being successful in alleviating symptoms has been the use of external energy sources such as various forms of electromagnetic radiation, magnetic fields, micro-currents and sound energies (Basford, 2001). Potentially, these energies may be activating ACE pigment-like materials within the body.

The PAVIS method provides a useful system to explore the effects of additional energy sources beyond ultraviolet-A light and the use of photon lending powders. In much the same way that the successful therapy of bacterial pneumonia using penicillin helped spur the development of the pharmaceutical industry, ACE pigment directed therapies may help establish a firm scientific foundation for the reemergence of energy based medicine as a true alternative to the drug based pharmaceutical approach (Hankey, 2004).

References

Basford, J.R. (2001). A historical perspective of the popular use of electric and magnetic therapy. Arch. Phys. Med. Rehabil. 82, 1261-9.

Campo, M.S. (2002). Animal models of papillomavirus pathogenesis. Virus Res. 89, 249-61.

Diffey, B.L. (2002). Sources and measurement of ultraviolet radiation. Methods 28, 4-13.

Hankey, A. (2004). Are we close to a theory of energy medicine? J. Altern. Complement. Med. 10, 83-6.

Longworth, M.S., and Laimins, L.A. (2004). Pathogenesis of human papillomaviruses in differentiating epithelia. Microbiol. Mol. Biol. Rev. 68, 362-72.

Martin, W.J. (1994). Stealth viruses as neuropathogens. CAP Today. 8, 67-70.

Martin, W.J. (1999). Stealth adaptation of an African green monkey simian cytomegalovirus. Exp. Mol. Pathol. 66, 3-7.

Martin, W.J. (2003a). Stealth Virus Culture Pigments: A Potential Source of Cellular Energy. Exp. Mol. Path. 74, 210-223.

Martin, W.J. (2003b). Complex intracellular inclusions in the brain of a child with a stealth virus encephalopathy. Exp. Mol. Path. 74, 179-209.

Myers, M.G., Oxman, M.N., Clark, J.E., and Arndt, K.A. (1975). Failure of neutral-red photodynamic inactivation in recurrent herpes simplex virus infections. N. Engl. J. Med. 293, 945-9.

Myers, M.G., Oxman, M.N., Clark, J.E., and Arndt, K.A. (1976). Photodynamic inactivation in recurrent infections with herpes simplex virus. J. Infect. Dis. 133 Suppl:A, 145-50.

Moomaw, M.D., Cornea, P., Rathbun, R.C., and Wendel, K.A. (2003). Review of antiviral therapy for herpes labialis, genital herpes and herpes zoster. Expert Rev Anti Infect Ther. 1, 283-95.

Nissenbaum, A., Kenyon, D.H., and Oro, J. (1975). On the possible role of organic melanoidin polymers as matrices for prebiotic activity. J. Mol. Evol. 6, 253-70.

Park, D.H., and Zeikus, J.G. (2000). Electricity generation in microbial fuel cells using neutral red as an electronophore. Appl. Environ. Microbiol. 66, 1292-7.

Pinder, A.R. (1960). �The Chemistry of the Terpenes.� John Wiley & Sons Inc. New York.

Snoeck, R. (2000). Antiviral therapy of herpes simplex. Int. J. Antimicrob. Agents. 16, 157-9.

Veien, N.K., Genner, J., Brodthagen, H., and Wettermark, G. (1977). Photodynamic inactivation of verrucae vulgares. II. Acta. Derm. Venereol. 57, 445-7.
Whitley, R.J. (2002). Herpes simplex virus infection. .Semin. Pediatr. Infect. Dis. 13, 6-11.

Table 1: Expedited Healing of Lesions with Neutral Red Followed by Ultraviolet-A Light

Virus	Clinical Lesion	No. of patients	Initial therapy*	No. of patients responding #
HSV	Genital herpes	10	PL	10
		7 ~	FC	0
HSV	Oral herpes	6	PL	6
		4 ~	FC	0
HSV	Shingles	4	PL	4
		2 ~	FC	0
HSV	Genital warts	2	PL	2
		1 ~	FC	0

Footnotes to Table I

* PL � photon lending powder solution ; FC � Food coloring

# Response is defined as marked reduction in pain and irritation accompanied by definite signs of healing well beyond that anticipated by the patient based on prior experience. A lack of response indicates persisting symptoms and essentially no change in the anticipated course of the lesion(s).

~ All of the control group patients subsequently volunteered to have their lesion(s) treated with photon lending solution followed by ultraviolet light. As with the initial test group, all of these patients responded with marked symptomatic relief and their lesions showed expedited healing when examined the following day.

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Symptomatic Relief of Herpetic Lesions
Utilizing an Energy Based Approach to Healing

Dr. W. John Martin, M.D., Ph.D., has informed LA Help of a promising, yet to be published study on the treatment of herpetic skin lesions. The study was conducted by a private contracted research organization in Las Vegas. It involved the application of an activated dye to early lesions followed by a short exposure to a special light. The patients were not told whether the activated dye or a simple control substance (food coloring) was being applied to their lesion. Photographs of the lesions were obtained prior to the application of activated dye or food coloring, and all lesions were treated identically with light energy. The lesions were re-examined 24 hours later and those that showed healing were re-photographed. The patients were asked to record whether they had experienced marked symptomatic relief.

Only 3 of control 86 patients with food coloring applied to their lesions reported symptomatic improvement. A provision in the study allowed for control patients to subsequently receive therapy with the activated dye plus light therapy. Seventy-nine of the 83 patients returned the next day to report symptomatic relief.

Of 173 patients who were initially treated with the activated dye and light, 145 returned for follow-up at 24 hours. All but 4 of the patients were either asymptomatic or reported very marked improvement. Expedited healing was confirmed in the photographs taken at 24 hours.

The outcome of the lesions in 28 patients who did not return for follow-up is unknown. In a prior study on 15 patients, all showed complete symptomatic relief by 24 hours. It is likely, therefore, that relief occurred in the majority, if not all, of the non-returning patients. Dr. Martin is monitoring an ongoing double-blind study in Florida. To date, the results have been equally as promising as the initial study with complete relief in 8/8 appropriately treated patients and no relief in 7/7 placebo controls.

The activated dye/light therapy protocol was originally devised by Dr. Jon Stoneburner, an optometrist from Florida. Some people have tried to copy the protocol but either failed to use freshly activated dye, or the right type of light. Dr. Stoneburner has invited Dr. Martin to oversee a double blind study in the Los Angeles region. Dr. Martin is particularly interested in the protocol since it supports his current research on a mechanism by which energized cells can suppress virus induced cellular damage. According to this research, which can be reviewed at www.s3support.com cells can derive an alternative form of cellular energy from various natural products, including light activated dyes. Alternative cellular energy (ACE) is especially useful in combating stealth-adapted herpes viruses for which there is no effective cellular immune response. Studies on conventional herpes viruses, such as those causing herpetic ulcers and shingles, will likely provide useful insights into the larger question of how best to treat stealth-adapted viruses.

Los Angeles area patients with early onset oral or genital herpes lesions can assist in this endeavor by participating in a double-blind, placebo-controlled study. Volunteers are asked to contact Dr. Martin at s3support@... or by telephone at 626-616-2868. They should register their willingness to participate in the study and to again notify Dr. Martin when an outbreak occurs. Treatment will be provided without charge by local physicians. Ongoing results will be reported at monthly meetings of LA Help.

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Subject: Re: New to Group Laser Question

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Thank you, Kerry.
This info is very helpful in making my decision.  I can see that I may need to
spend more than I planned, but results are what I am after!
What is your laser of choice?
Thanks!
Kathy
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> Hi Kathy,
>
> As a designer of Laser systems, and Laser Therapist of 25 years, be wary when
> someone tells you that SLD or LED or Laser light penetrates 23 cms.
> Theoretically it may, but at that depth you may only have 100 Photons out of
the
> 500 Trillion available at the tip of the probe.
>
> Another area of concern is the application of "Laser therapy" through
clothing.
> You'd be surprised at the number of Seminars in the USA where this is done
with
> "miraculous results", and it is the scam of the Century.
>
> When you enquire about Lasers etc, ask all the questions you can and carefully
> way up the responses you get.
>
> Rule of thumb is that visible red Laser penetrates up to 1.5cms with effective
> application. The light does penetrate further but photonic activity is
minimal.
> Near Infrared penetrates up to 5cms.
>
> Many of the modern claims on Laser therapy using minimal output power eg 5mw,
or
> the claims made on LED or SLD low power systems have no scientific research
> backing. LED's are cheap eg 35 cents each or less, and the control electronics
> are probably around $150.
>
> 5mw Laser diodes cost about $11 each, so I think the maths starts to prove a
> point.
>
> Regards,
> Kerry Tume
> www.tumelaser.com
>
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>   To: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:33 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question
>
>
>   Jennifer,
>   Thanks so very much for all this information! I appreciate all your
knowledge
> about the LazrPulsr. I will say that one is more than I was hoping to spend,
BUT
> I do not want to rule it out, as results are what I am after!
>   I have an appointment with a Chiropractor who does Quantom Neurology next
week
> and will get to see the GRT laser in use. That one is about 1/2 the price of
the
> one you are using and I wonder how they compare?
>   The GRT has 4 diodes 2 red 2 center ones are infared. Penetrates 3-5ml.
>
>   I was also looking at Dr. Klinghardts Health Light, as he has had specific
use
> and success with seizures with this unit.
>   It is an SLD and I really haven't been able to get enough info about it to
> warrent a purchase yet. The company has sent info, but not very helpful!They
did
> tell me the penetration was 23cm.
>
>   I appreciate your thoughts on the info from the Reversing Autism Group, too!
I
> have plenty of questions to post to them, also! Homeopathy seems like a good
> choice with our new direction, too. We have tried sequential with no succcess,
> so I will be looking for an alternative.
>
>   I am anxious to embark on a new path. We have been working so hard to get my
> son well for the past 12 years and am looking forward to a totally different
> approach!
>   Thanks again!
>   Kathy
>   -------------- Original message ----------------------
>   From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
>   > Hi Kathy!
>   >
>   > I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
>   > BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.
>   >
>   > As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
>   > Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
>   > to this list, and we've briefly discussed them. They seem to work well for
>   > Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
>   > protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while
child
>   > is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.
>   >
>   > If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
>   > game.
>   > Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
>   > Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
>   > treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
>   > children.
>   >
>   > Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?
>   >
>   > I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
>   > Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
>   > have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that
they
>   > are Columnized, and more concentrated beam. I believe there are some files
>   > in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more
about
>   > these medical grade lasers.
>   >
>   > The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
>   > devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
>   > other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
>   > well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
>   > the ones I own.
>   >
>   > The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
>   > which model you choose. It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
>   > as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable
or
>   > any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
>   > matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
>   > Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
>   > LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you
punch
>   > in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of
the
>   > decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets
the
>   > frequency into that program. This is MUCH easier than some of the other
>   > devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
>   > pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
>   > which can load custom frequency programs into laser.
>   >
>   > The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
>   > Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
>   > reassociate the nervous system. The Allergy setting is probably the
program
>   > I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
>   > food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
>   > longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!),
the
>   > miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
>   > life changing. We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.
>   >
>   > I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
>   > written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and
didn't
>   > fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
>   > colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling.
She
>   > was so amazed!
>   >
>   > So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure,
therapy,
>   > etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
>   > does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's
class
>   > that I've seen demonstrated.
>   > Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
>   > apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
>   > range of benefits....
>   >
>   > I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
>   > your needs and your budget.
>   >
>   > Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
>   > May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
>   >
>   > Jennifer Ruby
>   >
>   > Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
>   >
>   > http://www.rubysemporium.com
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
>   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
>   > http://www.lazrpulsr.com
>   > ______________________________________________
>   > ����������������������������������������������
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>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@...>
>   > To: <Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com>
>   > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
>   > Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question
>   >
>   >
>   > Dear Group,
>   >
>   > I appreciate being part of this group! I am the mother a a severely
>   > autistic 13 year old
>   > boy. He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
>   > That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
>   > health being
>   > stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
>   > 2006 at
>   > 39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today! We had a port a cath placement this
>   > year and I am
>   > able to give him intravenous hydration and other supplements! These have
>   > both helped.)
>   > Diet is completely organic. He does eat orally.
>   > He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
>   > antibiotics.
>   >
>   > I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
>   > only at post 377,
>   > so far) I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!
>   >
>   > After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and help my son,
>   > with little
>   > results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
>   > treat him myself.
>   >
>   > BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????
>   >
>   > I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the
cat
>   > with seizures.
>   > Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?
>   >
>   > I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be using this on
>   > my son (and
>   > possibly my family should I get good at it!) Cost is certainly a
>   > factor....which one might
>   > give me the most bang for my buck?
>   >
>   > Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be
better
>   > for the brain?
>   > and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
>   > pertain to my
>   > question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!
>   >
>   >
>   > My primary focus will be the brain, I want to help get rid of the
>   > seizures! I understand
>   > that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!
>   >
>   > So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
>   > that a lay person
>   > could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the
brain
>   > and
>   > stimulation of various organs etc. that is cost effective.....
>   > I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
>   > information,
>   >
>   > That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures
at
>   > 11 mo of age.
>   > The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
>   > side of his entire
>   > body. He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
>   > He usually will start
>   > off on his left foot for stairs, etc.
>   >
>   > Thanks for advice!
>   > Sincerely,
>   > Kathy
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Hi Kathy,

As a designer of Laser systems, and Laser Therapist of 25 years, be wary when someone tells you that SLD or LED or Laser light penetrates 23 cms. Theoretically it may, but at that depth you may only have 100 Photons out of the 500 Trillion available at the tip of the probe.

Another area of concern is the application of "Laser therapy" through clothing. You'd be surprised at the number of Seminars in the USA where this is done with "miraculous results", and it is the scam of the Century.

When you enquire about Lasers etc, ask all the questions you can and carefully way up the responses you get.

Rule of thumb is that visible red Laser penetrates up to 1.5cms with effective application. The light does penetrate further but photonic activity is minimal. Near Infrared penetrates up to 5cms.

Many of the modern claims on Laser therapy using minimal output power eg 5mw, or the claims made on LED or SLD low power systems have no scientific research backing. LED's are cheap eg 35 cents each or less, and the control electronics are probably around $150.

5mw Laser diodes cost about $11 each, so I think the maths starts to prove a point.

Regards,

Kerry Tume

www.tumelaser.com

----- Original Message -----

From: kjbirth@comcast.net

To: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:33 AM

Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question

Jennifer,
Thanks so very much for all this information! I appreciate all your knowledge about the LazrPulsr. I will say that one is more than I was hoping to spend, BUT I do not want to rule it out, as results are what I am after!
I have an appointment with a Chiropractor who does Quantom Neurology next week and will get to see the GRT laser in use. That one is about 1/2 the price of the one you are using and I wonder how they compare?
The GRT has 4 diodes 2 red 2 center ones are infared. Penetrates 3-5ml.

I was also looking at Dr. Klinghardts Health Light, as he has had specific use and success with seizures with this unit.
It is an SLD and I really haven't been able to get enough info about it to warrent a purchase yet. The company has sent info, but not very helpful!They did tell me the penetration was 23cm.

I appreciate your thoughts on the info from the Reversing Autism Group, too! I have plenty of questions to post to them, also! Homeopathy seems like a good choice with our new direction, too. We have tried sequential with no succcess, so I will be looking for an alternative.

I am anxious to embark on a new path. We have been working so hard to get my son well for the past 12 years and am looking forward to a totally different approach!
Thanks again!
Kathy
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@industryinet.com>
> Hi Kathy!
>
> I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
> BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.
>
> As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
> Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
> to this list, and we've briefly discussed them. They seem to work well for
> Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
> protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while child
> is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.
>
> If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
> game.
> Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
> Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
> treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
> children.
>
> Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?
>
> I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
> Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
> have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that they
> are Columnized, and more concentrated beam. I believe there are some files
> in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more about
> these medical grade lasers.
>
> The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
> devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
> other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
> well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
> the ones I own.
>
> The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
> which model you choose. It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
> as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable or
> any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
> matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
> Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
> LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you punch
> in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of the
> decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets the
> frequency into that program. This is MUCH easier than some of the other
> devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
> pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
> which can load custom frequency programs into laser.
>
> The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
> Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
> reassociate the nervous system. The Allergy setting is probably the program
> I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
> food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
> longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!), the
> miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
> life changing. We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.
>
> I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
> written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and didn't
> fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
> colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling. She
> was so amazed!
>
> So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure, therapy,
> etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
> does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's class
> that I've seen demonstrated.
> Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
> apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
> range of benefits....
>
> I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
> your needs and your budget.
>
> Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
> May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
>
> Jennifer Ruby
>
> Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
>
> http://www.rubysemporium.com
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
> http://www.lazrpulsr.com
> ______________________________________________
> ��
> ��
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@comcast.net>
> To: <Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
> Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question
>
>
> Dear Group,
>
> I appreciate being part of this group! I am the mother a a severely
> autistic 13 year old
> boy. He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
> That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
> health being
> stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
> 2006 at
> 39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today! We had a port a cath placement this
> year and I am
> able to give him intravenous hydration and other supplements! These have
> both helped.)
> Diet is completely organic. He does eat orally.
> He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
> antibiotics.
>
> I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
> only at post 377,
> so far) I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!
>
> After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and help my son,
> with little
> results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
> treat him myself.
>
> BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????
>
> I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the cat
> with seizures.
> Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?
>
> I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be using this on
> my son (and
> possibly my family should I get good at it!) Cost is certainly a
> factor....which one might
> give me the most bang for my buck?
>
> Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be better
> for the brain?
> and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
> pertain to my
> question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!
>
>
> My primary focus will be the brain, I want to help get rid of the
> seizures! I understand
> that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!
>
> So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
> that a lay person
> could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the brain
> and
> stimulation of various organs etc. that is cost effective.....
> I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
> information,
>
> That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures at
> 11 mo of age.
> The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
> side of his entire
> body. He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
> He usually will start
> off on his left foot for stairs, etc.
>
> Thanks for advice!
> Sincerely,
> Kathy
>

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From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
Date: Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:08 am
Subject: Re: New to Group Laser Question

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Kathy,

Kerry here, is one of the original reasons I got interested in Laser therapy. He's always been very helpful, knowledgeable, as has his son Sean.

Yes, ask lots of questions, as you'll be a more informed consumer, and have a lot more information and pseudo experience once the laser is purchased.... won't feel so lost.

I'm glad you're here.

It's a good place to begin.

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

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From: "Kerry Tume" <tume@...>
Date: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:47 am
Subject: Re: New to Group Laser Question

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Hi Kathy,

When you enquire about Lasers etc, ask all the questions you can and carefully way up the responses you get.

Rule of thumb is that visible red Laser penetrates up to 1.5cms with effective application. The light does penetrate further but photonic activity is minimal. Near Infrared penetrates up to 5cms.

5mw Laser diodes cost about $11 each, so I think the maths starts to prove a point.

Regards,

Kerry Tume

www.tumelaser.com

----- Original Message -----

From: kjbirth@...

To: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:33 AM

Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question

Jennifer,
Thanks so very much for all this information! I appreciate all your knowledge about the LazrPulsr. I will say that one is more than I was hoping to spend, BUT I do not want to rule it out, as results are what I am after!
I have an appointment with a Chiropractor who does Quantom Neurology next week and will get to see the GRT laser in use. That one is about 1/2 the price of the one you are using and I wonder how they compare?
The GRT has 4 diodes 2 red 2 center ones are infared. Penetrates 3-5ml.

I was also looking at Dr. Klinghardts Health Light, as he has had specific use and success with seizures with this unit.
It is an SLD and I really haven't been able to get enough info about it to warrent a purchase yet. The company has sent info, but not very helpful!They did tell me the penetration was 23cm.

I appreciate your thoughts on the info from the Reversing Autism Group, too! I have plenty of questions to post to them, also! Homeopathy seems like a good choice with our new direction, too. We have tried sequential with no succcess, so I will be looking for an alternative.

I am anxious to embark on a new path. We have been working so hard to get my son well for the past 12 years and am looking forward to a totally different approach!
Thanks again!
Kathy
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@industryinet.com>
> Hi Kathy!
>
> I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
> BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.
>
> As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
> Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
> to this list, and we've briefly discussed them. They seem to work well for
> Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
> protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while child
> is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.
>
> If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
> game.
> Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
> Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
> treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
> children.
>
> Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?
>
> I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
> Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
> have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that they
> are Columnized, and more concentrated beam. I believe there are some files
> in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more about
> these medical grade lasers.
>
> The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
> devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
> other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
> well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
> the ones I own.
>
> The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
> which model you choose. It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
> as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable or
> any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
> matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
> Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
> LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you punch
> in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of the
> decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets the
> frequency into that program. This is MUCH easier than some of the other
> devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
> pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
> which can load custom frequency programs into laser.
>
> The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
> Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
> reassociate the nervous system. The Allergy setting is probably the program
> I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
> food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
> longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!), the
> miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
> life changing. We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.
>
> I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
> written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and didn't
> fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
> colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling. She
> was so amazed!
>
> So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure, therapy,
> etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
> does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's class
> that I've seen demonstrated.
> Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
> apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
> range of benefits....
>
> I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
> your needs and your budget.
>
> Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
> May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
>
> Jennifer Ruby
>
> Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
>
> http://www.rubysemporium.com
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
> http://www.lazrpulsr.com
> ______________________________________________
> ��
> ��
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@comcast.net>
> To: <Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
> Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question
>
>
> Dear Group,
>
> I appreciate being part of this group! I am the mother a a severely
> autistic 13 year old
> boy. He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
> That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
> health being
> stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
> 2006 at
> 39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today! We had a port a cath placement this
> year and I am
> able to give him intravenous hydration and other supplements! These have
> both helped.)
> Diet is completely organic. He does eat orally.
> He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
> antibiotics.
>
> I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
> only at post 377,
> so far) I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!
>
> After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and help my son,
> with little
> results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
> treat him myself.
>
> BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????
>
> I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the cat
> with seizures.
> Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?
>
> I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be using this on
> my son (and
> possibly my family should I get good at it!) Cost is certainly a
> factor....which one might
> give me the most bang for my buck?
>
> Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be better
> for the brain?
> and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
> pertain to my
> question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!
>
>
> My primary focus will be the brain, I want to help get rid of the
> seizures! I understand
> that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!
>
> So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
> that a lay person
> could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the brain
> and
> stimulation of various organs etc. that is cost effective.....
> I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
> information,
>
> That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures at
> 11 mo of age.
> The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
> side of his entire
> body. He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
> He usually will start
> off on his left foot for stairs, etc.
>
> Thanks for advice!
> Sincerely,
> Kathy
>

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#533

From: kjbirth@...
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:33 pm
Subject: Re: New to Group Laser Question

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Jennifer,
Thanks so very much for all this information!  I appreciate all your knowledge
about the LazrPulsr.  I will say that one is more than I was hoping to spend,
BUT I do not want to rule it out, as results are what I am after!
I  have an appointment with a Chiropractor who does Quantom Neurology next week
and will get to see the GRT laser in use.  That one is about 1/2 the price of
the one you are using and I wonder how they compare?
The GRT has 4 diodes 2 red 2 center ones are infared.  Penetrates 3-5ml.

I was also looking at Dr. Klinghardts Health Light, as he has had specific use
and success with seizures with this unit.
It is an SLD and I really haven't been able to get enough info about it to
warrent a purchase yet.  The company has sent info, but not very helpful!They
did tell me the penetration was 23cm.

I appreciate your thoughts on the info from the Reversing Autism Group, too!  I
have plenty of questions to post to them, also!  Homeopathy seems like a good
choice with our new direction, too.  We have tried sequential with no succcess,
so I will be looking for an alternative.

I am anxious to embark on a new path.  We have been working so hard to get my
son well for the past 12 years and am looking forward to a totally different
approach!
Thanks again!
Kathy
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
> Hi Kathy!
>
> I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
> BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.
>
> As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
> Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
> to this list, and we've briefly discussed them.  They seem to work well for
> Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
> protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while child
> is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.
>
> If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
> game.
> Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
> Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
> treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
> children.
>
> Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?
>
> I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
> Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
> have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that they
> are Columnized, and more concentrated beam.  I believe there are some files
> in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more about
> these medical grade lasers.
>
> The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
> devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
> other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
> well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
> the ones I own.
>
> The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
> which model you choose.  It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
> as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable or
> any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
> matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
> Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
> LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you punch
> in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of the
> decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets the
> frequency into that program.  This is MUCH easier than some of the other
> devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
> pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
> which can load custom frequency programs into laser.
>
> The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
> Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
> reassociate the nervous system.  The Allergy setting is probably the program
> I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
> food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
> longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!), the
> miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
> life changing.  We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.
>
> I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
> written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and didn't
> fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
> colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling.  She
> was so amazed!
>
> So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure, therapy,
> etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
> does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's class
> that I've seen demonstrated.
> Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
> apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
> range of benefits....
>
> I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
> your needs and your budget.
>
> Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
> May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers  3John 2
>
> Jennifer Ruby
>
> Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
>
> http://www.rubysemporium.com
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
> http://www.lazrpulsr.com
>         ______________________________________________
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@...>
> To: <Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
> Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question
>
>
>  Dear Group,
>
>  I appreciate being part of this group!  I am the mother a a severely
> autistic 13 year old
>  boy.  He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
>  That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
> health being
>  stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
> 2006 at
>  39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today!  We had a port a cath placement this
> year and I am
>  able to give  him intravenous hydration and other supplements!  These have
> both helped.)
>  Diet is completely organic.  He does eat orally.
>  He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
> antibiotics.
>
>  I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
> only at post 377,
>  so far)  I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!
>
>  After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and  help my son,
> with little
>  results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
> treat him myself.
>
>  BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????
>
>  I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the cat
> with seizures.
>  Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?
>
>  I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be  using this on
> my son (and
>  possibly my family should I get good at it!)  Cost is certainly a
> factor....which one might
>  give me the most bang for my buck?
>
>  Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be better
> for the brain?
>  and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
> pertain to  my
>  question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!
>
>
>  My primary focus will be the brain,  I want to help get rid of the
> seizures!  I understand
>  that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!
>
>  So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
> that a lay person
>  could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the brain
> and
>  stimulation of various organs etc.  that is cost effective.....
> I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
> information,
>
> That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures at
> 11 mo of age.
> The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
> side of his entire
> body.  He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
> He usually will start
> off on his left foot for stairs, etc.
>
>  Thanks for advice!
>  Sincerely,
>  Kathy
>

Hi Kathy!

I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.

As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
to this list, and we've briefly discussed them. They seem to work well for
Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while child
is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.

If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
game.
Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
children.

Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?

I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that they
are Columnized, and more concentrated beam. I believe there are some files
in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more about
these medical grade lasers.

The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
the ones I own.

The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
which model you choose. It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable or
any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you punch
in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of the
decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets the
frequency into that program. This is MUCH easier than some of the other
devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
which can load custom frequency programs into laser.

The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
reassociate the nervous system. The Allergy setting is probably the program
I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!), the
miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
life changing. We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.

I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and didn't
fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling. She
was so amazed!

So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure, therapy,
etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's class
that I've seen demonstrated.
Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
range of benefits....

I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
your needs and your budget.

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

http://www.rubysemporium.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
http://www.lazrpulsr.com
______________________________________________
��
��

----- Original Message -----
From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@comcast.net>
To: <Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question

Dear Group,

I appreciate being part of this group! I am the mother a a severely
autistic 13 year old
boy. He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
health being
stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
2006 at
39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today! We had a port a cath placement this
year and I am
able to give him intravenous hydration and other supplements! These have
both helped.)
Diet is completely organic. He does eat orally.
He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
antibiotics.

I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
only at post 377,
so far) I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!

After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and help my son,
with little
results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
treat him myself.

BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????

I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the cat
with seizures.
Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?

I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be using this on
my son (and
possibly my family should I get good at it!) Cost is certainly a
factor....which one might
give me the most bang for my buck?

Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be better
for the brain?
and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
pertain to my
question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!

My primary focus will be the brain, I want to help get rid of the
seizures! I understand
that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!

So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
that a lay person
could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the brain
and
stimulation of various organs etc. that is cost effective.....
I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
information,

That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures at
11 mo of age.
The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
side of his entire
body. He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
He usually will start
off on his left foot for stairs, etc.

Thanks for advice!
Sincerely,
Kathy

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#532

From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:55 am
Subject: Re: New to Group Laser Question

rubysemporium

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Hi Nel!

I've been taught to utilize vials and energetic cards (what you're clearing) in the left hand, and then using the Allergy Program #35 to clear the left wrist (kidney reflex), Belly Button (blood), Colon point, Thymus gland, and Brain (forehead). In addition to these points, if needed, you can additionally clear other points needed like adrenals, liver, heart, stomach, pancreas, etc....

The booklet that came with my Laser has all the points shown clearly in colored diagrams. The one I have is the one at: http://www.lazrpulsr.com

I have no financial connection with them, so you'll have to inquire as to the price of the various models they have that fits your needs. I do believe they may have a lease program available which may be helpful to you.

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

----- Original Message -----

From: IsRecoveryPossible

Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question

Ruby,

How do you use the laser? Is there any Youtube to show the use of it, or what? Also can you tell me how much the laser that you spoke of cost? Where to buy it.

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#531

From: IsRecoveryPossible <nelnjai@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:17 am
Subject: Re: New to Group Laser Question

my2nelson

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Ruby,

How do you use the laser? Is there any Youtube to show the use of it, or what? Also can you tell me how much the laser that you spoke of cost? Where to buy it.

Nel Njai

Be BLessed.

Jennifer Ruby <ruby@...> wrote:

Hi Kathy!

I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.

As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
to this list, and we've briefly discussed them. They seem to work well for
Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while child
is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.

If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
game.
Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
children.

Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?

I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that they
are Columnized, and more concentrated beam. I believe there are some files
in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more about
these medical grade lasers.

The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
the ones I own.

The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
which model you choose. It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable or
any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you punch
in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of the
decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets the
frequency into that program. This is MUCH easier than some of the other
devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
which can load custom frequency programs into laser.

The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
reassociate the nervous system. The Allergy setting is probably the program
I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!), the
miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
life changing. We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.

I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and didn't
fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling. She
was so amazed!

So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure, therapy,
etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's class
that I've seen demonstrated.
Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
range of benefits....

I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
your needs and your budget.

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

http://www.rubysemporium.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
http://www.lazrpulsr.com
______________________________________________
��
��

----- Original Message -----
From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@comcast.net>
To: <Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question

Dear Group,

I appreciate being part of this group! I am the mother a a severely
autistic 13 year old
boy. He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
health being
stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
2006 at
39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today! We had a port a cath placement this
year and I am
able to give him intravenous hydration and other supplements! These have
both helped.)
Diet is completely organic. He does eat orally.
He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
antibiotics.

I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
only at post 377,
so far) I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!

After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and help my son,
with little
results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
treat him myself.

BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????

I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the cat
with seizures.
Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?

I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be using this on
my son (and
possibly my family should I get good at it!) Cost is certainly a
factor....which one might
give me the most bang for my buck?

Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be better
for the brain?
and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
pertain to my
question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!

My primary focus will be the brain, I want to help get rid of the
seizures! I understand
that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!

So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
that a lay person
could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the brain
and
stimulation of various organs etc. that is cost effective.....
I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
information,

That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures at
11 mo of age.
The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
side of his entire
body. He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
He usually will start
off on his left foot for stairs, etc.

Thanks for advice!
Sincerely,
Kathy

"Perfection Takes Time"

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#530

From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:08 am
Subject: Re: New to Group Laser Question

rubysemporium

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Hi Kathy!

I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.

As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
to this list, and we've briefly discussed them.  They seem to work well for
Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while child
is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.

If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
game.
Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
children.

Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?

I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that they
are Columnized, and more concentrated beam.  I believe there are some files
in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more about
these medical grade lasers.

The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
the ones I own.

The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
which model you choose.  It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable or
any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you punch
in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of the
decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets the
frequency into that program.  This is MUCH easier than some of the other
devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
which can load custom frequency programs into laser.

The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
reassociate the nervous system.  The Allergy setting is probably the program
I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!), the
miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
life changing.  We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.

I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and didn't
fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling.  She
was so amazed!

So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure, therapy,
etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's class
that I've seen demonstrated.
Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
range of benefits....

I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
your needs and your budget.

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Jennifer Ruby

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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question


  Dear Group,

  I appreciate being part of this group!  I am the mother a a severely
autistic 13 year old
  boy.  He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
  That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
health being
  stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
2006 at
  39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today!  We had a port a cath placement this
year and I am
  able to give  him intravenous hydration and other supplements!  These have
both helped.)
  Diet is completely organic.  He does eat orally.
  He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
antibiotics.

  I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
only at post 377,
  so far)  I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!

  After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and  help my son,
with little
  results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
treat him myself.

  BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????

  I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the cat
with seizures.
  Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?

  I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be  using this on
my son (and
  possibly my family should I get good at it!)  Cost is certainly a
factor....which one might
  give me the most bang for my buck?

  Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be better
for the brain?
  and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
pertain to  my
  question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!


  My primary focus will be the brain,  I want to help get rid of the
seizures!  I understand
  that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!

  So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
that a lay person
  could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the brain
and
  stimulation of various organs etc.  that is cost effective.....
I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
information,

That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures at
11 mo of age.
The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
side of his entire
body.  He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
He usually will start
off on his left foot for stairs, etc.

  Thanks for advice!
  Sincerely,
  Kathy

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From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:08 am
Subject: New to Group - One more thing

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Me again!

I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful information,

That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures at 11
mo of age.
The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right side
of his entire
body.  He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.  He
usually will start
off on his left foot for stairs, etc.

Thanks again!
Kathy

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From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:54 am
Subject: New to Group Laser Question

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Dear Group,

I appreciate being part of this group!  I am the mother a a severely autistic 13
year old
boy.  He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall health
being
stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in 2006
at
39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today!  We had a port a cath placement this year
and I am
able to give  him intravenous hydration and other supplements!  These have both
helped.)
Diet is completely organic.  He does eat orally.
He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous antibiotics.

I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am only at
post 377,
so far)
I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!

After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and  help my son, with
little
results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to treat him
myself.

BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????

I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the cat with
seizures.
Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?

I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be  using this on my
son (and
possibly my family should I get good at it!)  Cost is certainly a
factor....which one might
give me the most bang for my buck?

Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be better for
the brain?
and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back pertain
to  my
question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!


My primary focus will be the brain,  I want to help get rid of the seizures!  I
understand
that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!

So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings that a
lay person
could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the brain and
stimulation of various organs etc.  that is cost effective.....
Thanks for advice!
Sincerely,
Kathy

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From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:51 pm
Subject: Transverse Myelitis

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Been busy with a young girl working on Transverse Myelitis.

I was searching and searching, and was looking through ALS, Epstein Barr Virus, Gilliam Barr - except there had been no vaccinations, Multiple Sclerosis - as lesions were the same, (She has never had any Herpes outbreaks, so that was somewhat out) She'd already had Chicken Pox, Bell's Palsy, and Shingles.... so something in this viral nervy classification was what I was looking at. Her aunt was also looking and asked us to look at the Transverse Myelitis, which fits the situation to a T. I did a lot of research on this, and this condition with Homeopathic remedies, and on Radar and EH, and came up with information that helped a lot!

Ended up first giving Aconite, because of the speed at which it happened, then Hypericum for nerves, BiChemic Phosphates (cell salts) to support nerves, and........after much research - Lathyrus 6C. See New, Old and Forgotten Remedies: E.P. Anshutz http://www.homeoint.org/seror/patho1900/lathyrus.htm

I have used the laser extensively; first to clear allergies to Variolinum, Lead and Aluminum, & Bisphenol A in Composite Fillings, then the Nerve Pain 2, and #3 N/M Re-Ed on TMJ, and the SCENAR on hands and feet after using the laser. On her feet, she has a couple spots (one on each foot) that the SCENAR, even powered up to 250, she couldn't feel it. But, as of last night, over all, her nerves were settling down, not degenerating further, and are beginning to heal. After working on this since Saturday, She returned to school last night,Tuesday evening, to begin classes again today, Wednesday Morning. Feeling has returned to her feet except in small spots, and hands aren't quite as numb as before. Her overall vitality and energy is returning.

I did a search on Radar's Encyclopedia Medica, for Transverse Myelitis and came up with several things, both under remedies, and under pathology.

My searches on the web were very frightening, as they basically said that this condition had low recovery rates, and sometimes leading to paralysis and death. Her two Neurologist visits had been totally inconclusive, and of no help, and time was a wasting! My main concern was catching it before incomplete Lesions become complete Lesions, and the window of opportunity to heal can become less open to healing. I thought about this, and mentally likened it to a girdled tree truck. If trunk's bark is removed on just one side, or part, it can remain alive and heal, but if girdled completely around the entire trunk, and all bark removed, it dies. From my understanding, this condition comes on suddenly, continues quickly to progress, and solidifies into paralysis quickly where most mainstream medical sites say it's permanent. So, Time is of the Essence.

I'm fairly well pleased with progress thus far. Too soon to call it healed yet, but progressing nicely.

20 year old healthy, unmarried girl, student

Presenting Condition:

Friday Ends of toes began tingling, and proceeded to become numb.

By Monday, Progressed to whole bottom of foot numb.

By Tuesday, Hands became numb and Respiratory became problematic at times.

By Wednesday, Inside and backs of thighs numb.

Thursday came home from school, and went to Neurologist. His exam and bloodwork came back inconclusive.

The numbness has affected balance and coordindination; muscle weakness, some spotty skin redness? Sweat has increased

She is not hungry or thirsty. Food is unappetizing Nausea Stomachache aches

She says she craves HOT baths with Epsom salts, but that Hot air make her respiratory problems much worse.

The speed in which her condition deteriorated is what has concerned her and her parents. She cannot walk the college campus and cannot type. As school is in session this is a real problem.

Possible Causation:

She feels this situation began when she had a dental procedure and had composition crown. It affected her nerves in her mouth & jaw causing severe TMJ pain. This has created severe migraine headaches.

She has had the following background history:

Frequent Migraine Headaches on Left side of head. Mainly with Monthly cycle - Treats with medication: Topamax, and Excedrin Migraine

Dark, Quiet, and Lack of Movement make them feel better Mood swings with Cycle. BC Pills

She has had Chicken Pox & Shingles. Never had any Herpes breakouts. \

Bells Palsy/Tosis which affected her eye. She had to have this surgically corrected. /

She has Scoliosis, and some problems with back curvature. One side is higher than other.

BAD Vision. Glasses since age 10. Now wears contacts and glasses.

Good hearing

Has had several deaths in the family/friends of family since first of year.

Always very sensitive to light and noise.

Sleeps on both sides & stomach, with hands curved inward, which has historically caused hands to go to sleep.

Because of clenched jaw/TMJ problems, suggested bite guard, but she says she sleeps with mouth open and loses it.

Some Mucous in stools

Fatigue; Very Tired - Some sleep problems

Some shortness of breath. Historical Asthma/Bronchitis each year

Painful joints (scoliosis?), Stiffness

Complains of Bloating in stomach, Stomachaches

Has typical allergies

In the past, she's had bruising easily problems, and hives

Sleep Patterns:

Snores, Wakes up to urinate, Restless Sleep, Stays awake till 1 AM, Dreams actively, interesting dreams. Sleep sometimes disturbed by light and noise.

Family history with High blood pressure and diabetes

Diet:

Eats healthy diet of vegetables both cooked and raw, fresh fruit, eggs, weekly consumes beef, chicken fish, seafood, spicy hot foods, never potato chips, but craves sweets. Favorite foods are Chinese, veggies, chocolate cake, hot wings.. Least favorite are beans.

Loves Most: Spicy, Sweet, Cool drinks, Salty Likes Less: Sour.

Emotions: Happy, Enthusiastic & Optimistic - most of the time. Has almost continuous big beautiful smile

Sometimes sad, Attentive, Grumpy, Worried

Close emotional family bonding. No divorces in immediate family. Talks during meals, Plays games and cards with friends and family.

LOVES Animals

BioEnergetic Treatment:

Tests to be toxic to Lead and Aluminum, Variolinum & Bisphenol A in Composite Fillings -

Cleared with laser - Because of severity of allergy, this took several hours.

Gave Homeopathic Ledum, Staphysagria & Hypericum for Dental trauma,

Recent Medical History:

Has been to Neurologist, who doesn't have a clue. Gave prescription for expensive meds he says is for anti-seizure conditions but should help with numbness, but hasn't helped.

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

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From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Touch For Health

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From: "marquisschembri" <marquisschembri@...>
Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Touch For Health

> Touch For Heath, has got to be one of the best gift I bought myself
> (family) this year! Thank you so much for your help. I would like to
> know, what is a cranial "SCENAR"? One other question please, I would
> like to purchase a good chart showing the acupuncture points, any
> advice?
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Hi Jenny!

I'm so glad you are enjoying Touch For Health, as I too enjoy and use mine.
It has infinite uses in figuring out the many interconnectedness of our
bodies points.

I've trained in the SCENAR's use, and know that they do use it with good
results on the head.  Don't know what a "Cranial SCENAR" would be... It may
be something new?  Not sure.  Mostly the purpose for using the scenar is to
balance energy;diffuse hot spots and charge low spots, to bring overall
balance in the body.

One man who had a broken collar bone had really high inflammation on the
inside of the break, and low readings on the outside.  After using the
SCENAR on both sides of the break, and using Homeopathy for the bone itself,
as well as using the LazrPulsr on BONE and HEALING settings, he was back to
work in a couple days.... not full speed; but able to do bids.  I think it
was a week before he could move freely enough (even with arm in sling) to
work one handedly - but able to work.... after the break.  Prior to this, 15
years previous, he'd broken the same collar bone, and it was 6 weeks before
he could return to work!  This time, much older, but using alternatives, it
was less than a week.  He was so impressed!

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers  3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

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From: "marquisschembri" <marquisschembri@...>
Date: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:25 pm
Subject: Touch For Health

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Touch For Heath, has got to be one of the best gift I bought myself
(family) this year! Thank you so much for your help. I would like to
know, what is a cranial "SCENAR"? One other question please, I would
like to purchase a good chart showing the acupuncture points, any
advice?

TIA,
Jenny S.

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From: Anthony Schembri <marquisschembri@...>
Date: Fri Jul 4, 2008 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: Dr. Cowden's LED detox protocol

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Hello Dr. Gerry Graham, Thank You very much for�your helpful reference.�My son
Marquis was Dx with autism at the age of 3, he is now 6. After his last course
of antibiotic,�that is when his health started to�spiral downwards. We have been
doing bio-med for 6 months, went onto sequential homeopathy for two years and a
half. Now my focus is ridding�Lyme, while we continue to detox, maintain a
healty diet and sequential homeopathy.�Seq. homeopathy�is by far one of the best
interventions we have tried�for my son. We use NCD, Zeolite and clay internally
for detox. Now that we are trying to rid Lyme,�I want to treat�Lyme the safest
way possible. The reason why I wanted to learn muscle testing, is to also be
able to test certain herbs, such as Somento, Bitter Orange, Resveratrol, and
Turmeric, that is commonly used to treat Lyme with ASD children. Is there a book
I could�purchase, to learn your technique. Or do I have to take a course? I live
in
  Canada.
�
Blessings Jenny S.���������

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Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Dr. Cowden's LED detox protocol
To: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 4:53 PM








Touch for Health by Dr. John Thie is one of the best books written for learning
the basics of Applied Kinesiology (AK). I am not that familiar with Dr. Cowden's
procedures but if you gave me some additional info on your son I would let you
know what kind of results we have had with similar patients in my office using
Low Level Laser Therapy.
Thank you
Dr. Gerry Graham III



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Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 10:32:35 AM
Subject: [Therapeutic- Laser_Therapy] Dr. Cowden's LED detox protocol



Hello; I would like to learn more about Dr Cowden's LED therapy for my
ASD son. Is their a book, or any great site to learn his method on my
own? Or do I have to take a course. I live in Canada. What laser
should I buy? Also can anyone suggest a great book on muscle testing.
The only book I have on muscle testing is "Say Good-Bye to Autism" By
Dr. Nambudripad. I was thinking to buy "Touch for Health, by Dr. John
F. Any suggestions? Thank you for your kind help.

Jenny S.




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From: gerry graham <rgcrackers@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Dr. Cowden's LED detox protocol

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Touch for Health by Dr. John Thie is one of the best books written for learning the basics of Applied Kinesiology (AK). I am not that familiar with Dr. Cowden's procedures but if you gave me some additional info on your son I would let you know what kind of results we have had with similar patients in my office using Low Level Laser Therapy.
Thank you
Dr. Gerry Graham III

----- Original Message ----
From: marquisschembri <marquisschembri@...>
To: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 10:32:35 AM
Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] Dr. Cowden's LED detox protocol

Hello; I would like to learn more about Dr Cowden's LED therapy for my
ASD son. Is their a book, or any great site to learn his method on my
own? Or do I have to take a course. I live in Canada. What laser
should I buy? Also can anyone suggest a great book on muscle testing.
The only book I have on muscle testing is "Say Good-Bye to Autism" By
Dr. Nambudripad. I was thinking to buy "Touch for Health, by Dr. John
F. Any suggestions? Thank you for your kind help.

Jenny S.

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