Thank you, Kerry.
This info is very helpful in making my decision. I can see that I may need to
spend more than I planned, but results are what I am after!
What is your laser of choice?
Thanks!
Kathy
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Kerry Tume" <tume@...>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> As a designer of Laser systems, and Laser Therapist of 25 years, be wary when
> someone tells you that SLD or LED or Laser light penetrates 23 cms.
> Theoretically it may, but at that depth you may only have 100 Photons out of
the
> 500 Trillion available at the tip of the probe.
>
> Another area of concern is the application of "Laser therapy" through
clothing.
> You'd be surprised at the number of Seminars in the USA where this is done
with
> "miraculous results", and it is the scam of the Century.
>
> When you enquire about Lasers etc, ask all the questions you can and carefully
> way up the responses you get.
>
> Rule of thumb is that visible red Laser penetrates up to 1.5cms with effective
> application. The light does penetrate further but photonic activity is
minimal.
> Near Infrared penetrates up to 5cms.
>
> Many of the modern claims on Laser therapy using minimal output power eg 5mw,
or
> the claims made on LED or SLD low power systems have no scientific research
> backing. LED's are cheap eg 35 cents each or less, and the control electronics
> are probably around $150.
>
> 5mw Laser diodes cost about $11 each, so I think the maths starts to prove a
> point.
>
> Regards,
> Kerry Tume
> www.tumelaser.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kjbirth@...
> To: Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question
>
>
> Jennifer,
> Thanks so very much for all this information! I appreciate all your
knowledge
> about the LazrPulsr. I will say that one is more than I was hoping to spend,
BUT
> I do not want to rule it out, as results are what I am after!
> I have an appointment with a Chiropractor who does Quantom Neurology next
week
> and will get to see the GRT laser in use. That one is about 1/2 the price of
the
> one you are using and I wonder how they compare?
> The GRT has 4 diodes 2 red 2 center ones are infared. Penetrates 3-5ml.
>
> I was also looking at Dr. Klinghardts Health Light, as he has had specific
use
> and success with seizures with this unit.
> It is an SLD and I really haven't been able to get enough info about it to
> warrent a purchase yet. The company has sent info, but not very helpful!They
did
> tell me the penetration was 23cm.
>
> I appreciate your thoughts on the info from the Reversing Autism Group, too!
I
> have plenty of questions to post to them, also! Homeopathy seems like a good
> choice with our new direction, too. We have tried sequential with no succcess,
> so I will be looking for an alternative.
>
> I am anxious to embark on a new path. We have been working so hard to get my
> son well for the past 12 years and am looking forward to a totally different
> approach!
> Thanks again!
> Kathy
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Jennifer Ruby" <ruby@...>
> > Hi Kathy!
> >
> > I know you from Reversing Autism, and the
> > BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism lists.
> >
> > As you probably noticed from the list archives of the
> > Therapeutic-Laser-Therapy list, I've posted some of Dr. Cowden's protocols
> > to this list, and we've briefly discussed them. They seem to work well for
> > Detoxing Allergies to Heavy Metals, Chemicals, Vaccines, etc.... His
> > protocol still involves vials, and therapy usually is performed while
child
> > is sleeping, so that feet and hands can be done without much wiggling.
> >
> > If your son's already on an organic diet, you are that much ahead of the
> > game.
> > Don't know if you've already initiated further improvement with using the
> > Lumbrokinase, Red and Green Clays and Bitter Orange. These, with the laser
> > treatments, and Homeopathic treatments have seen significant changes in
> > children.
> >
> > Specific to your questions regarding the laser - Which Laser?
> >
> > I have several of the regular red lasers, one green laser, a couple of the
> > Rainbow lite LED units which I use along with the Laser that I use, and I
> > have several of the LazrPulsr lasers. Lasers differ from LED's in that
they
> > are Columnized, and more concentrated beam. I believe there are some files
> > in the Files pages of this list that might help you with learning more
about
> > these medical grade lasers.
> >
> > The only way I can comment is to only tell you my experience with the
> > devices I have. There are several other practitioners on this list who use
> > other lasers, and another manufacturer from Australia on this list as
> > well..... but as I said, I can only discuss the experiences I've had with
> > the ones I own.
> >
> > The LazrPulsr is a Medical Grade laser with 2 to 4 diodes, depending on
> > which model you choose. It has many preprogrammed programs in it, as well
> > as easily being instantly custom programmable without having a USB cable
or
> > any other method of computer program to program with. .... It simply is a
> > matter of hitting select, then changing the program number to one that is
> > Programmable (not preset with a loaded program), and then hitting the
> > LazrPulse button, which moves the curser around to each diode, and you
punch
> > in the frequency you want - which can do several points to the right of
the
> > decimal for DNA type frequencies, then push select again, and this sets
the
> > frequency into that program. This is MUCH easier than some of the other
> > devices I've seen where you either have to send it back to the factory and
> > pay for other programs to be loaded, or, connected with computer program
> > which can load custom frequency programs into laser.
> >
> > The LazrPulsr has a great range of settings that work with Cranial Nerves,
> > Muscles, Inflammation, ect, which is a lot of what is needed to help to
> > reassociate the nervous system. The Allergy setting is probably the
program
> > I use the most, as most everyone has problems with allergic responses to
> > food, pollen, and even their own immune systems. Although this can take
> > longer to clear than what some doctors claim ( 1 Minute -You're done!),
the
> > miraculous changes in the people who've used it that I've seen, has been
> > life changing. We haven't had to go back and "redo" treatment.
> >
> > I have used the LazrPulsr in a Chiro seminar with a lady Chiro that I've
> > written about that they had worked on for 2 days, 3 times a day, and
didn't
> > fix her numbness on her face, but in a few minutes using the LazrPulsr and
> > colored lights and a colored chart - her nerves regained their feeling.
She
> > was so amazed!
> >
> > So, Noone can claim instant healing with any one device, procedure,
therapy,
> > etc.... it's a process of peeling layers off the onion.... but this laser
> > does more for the dollar than most of the other Medical lasers in it's
class
> > that I've seen demonstrated.
> > Yes, it's more money than one you purchase at Office Depot, but that's not
> > apples to apples, and that one can't do what this one can as far as it's
> > range of benefits....
> >
> > I hope to discuss this further with you and hope you find what works for
> > your needs and your budget.
> >
> > Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
> > May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
> >
> > Jennifer Ruby
> >
> > Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
> >
> > http://www.rubysemporium.com
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
> > http://www.lazrpulsr.com
> > ______________________________________________
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "liveandlearn101" <kjbirth@...>
> > To: <Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:54 PM
> > Subject: [Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy] New to Group Laser Question
> >
> >
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > I appreciate being part of this group! I am the mother a a severely
> > autistic 13 year old
> > boy. He walks but has no balance, heavy drooler, diapers and seizures.
> > That said, I have made some progress in the past year with his overall
> > health being
> > stronger and much needed weight gain. (He had a feeding tube placement in
> > 2006 at
> > 39lbs and he weighs over 75 lbs today! We had a port a cath placement this
> > year and I am
> > able to give him intravenous hydration and other supplements! These have
> > both helped.)
> > Diet is completely organic. He does eat orally.
> > He was diagnosed w/lyme disease at age 3 and was on intravenous
> > antibiotics.
> >
> > I am still in the process of reading past posts (working backwards I am
> > only at post 377,
> > so far) I found many so very interesting and most WAY over my head!
> >
> > After putting out over $150,000.00 out of pocket to try and help my son,
> > with little
> > results, I am determined to purchase equipment and learn proper use to
> > treat him myself.
> >
> > BUT which Laser vs LED do I want????
> >
> > I have searched past posts for seizures, but only one came up about the
cat
> > with seizures.
> > Were the seizures resolved with the laser treatment?
> >
> > I see the cost of these lasers vary GREATLY, I will only be using this on
> > my son (and
> > possibly my family should I get good at it!) Cost is certainly a
> > factor....which one might
> > give me the most bang for my buck?
> >
> > Here's what I think I have learned....one that does pulsing would be
better
> > for the brain?
> > and I think the posts about Line vs Dot and LED vs. Laser awhille back
> > pertain to my
> > question...BUT I just couldn't wrap my brain around it all!
> >
> >
> > My primary focus will be the brain, I want to help get rid of the
> > seizures! I understand
> > that other parts of the body are greatly effected, too!
> >
> > So, I am just looking for suggestions....A laser or LED that has settings
> > that a lay person
> > could understand, but that would have deep enough penetration for the
brain
> > and
> > stimulation of various organs etc. that is cost effective.....
> > I also wanted to mention to the group, as this is hopefully helpful
> > information,
> >
> > That my son was originally right handed, until he started having seizures
at
> > 11 mo of age.
> > The seizures begin in the left frontal lobe, which have affected the right
> > side of his entire
> > body. He can barely use his right hand and the leg is also not as strong.
> > He usually will start
> > off on his left foot for stairs, etc.
> >
> > Thanks for advice!
> > Sincerely,
> > Kathy
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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