Then why do companies like Erchonia promote deep tissue healing using
5mw 635nm and get results (Olympics athletes etc.) Just trying to
understand all of this.

Steve
--- In Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy@yahoogroups.com, "Buddy Touchinsky"
<dr.touchinsky@...> wrote:
>
> Red lasers will not penetrate into tissue. The higher wavelength,
the more
> penetration you will have, with around 900 nm being optimum.
>
> With lasers, there seems to be two ways of thinking. Look at it
like
> homeopathy or like physical modalities. The 5 mw lasers provide a
> homeopathic dose, while higher powered lasers provide a physiologic
dose.
>
> Before you buy any laser, spend the money and buy Tuner and Hodes
text on
> laser therapy. Also go to www.laser.nu.
>
> Buddy
>
>
> On 2/25/06, gerry graham <rgcrackers@...> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> > Pulsed and non pulsed have completely different
> > effects on tissue. So you can't say that one is not
> > effective or the other is. It depends on what you want
> > to do. 635nm light has the ability activate all
> > biological light sensitive compounds called
> > chromophores in the body but does not have the ability
> > to produce heat that infrared does. Low power
> > (5mW)will not produce heat and is needed for
> > activation of the chromophores which, like your vision
> > is sensitive to not only not enough light but too much
> > is also sedating. Higher power, 30mW is needed to
> > penetrate deep into tissue and produce heat. This is
> > still a local thermal response where the low level 635
> > produces systemic activation to the body. 650 nm light
> > will miss many chromophores but be very activating for
> > others, unfortunately if that is on a fully collimated
> > laser, 40 mW will probably be too much power to
> > activate many of those chromophores. 650 nm will not
> > penetrate as well as infrared, above 760 nm light and
> > not produce as much heat either.
> >
> > You are right about the confusion, even most
> > manufactures are confused. I of course am partial to
> > 635nm, 5mW, fully collimated, laser light which is
> > pulsed accurately in excess of 1 MHz. Which is why I
> > built the LazrPulsr 4X with those parameters. I
> > believe this is the safest and most powerful therapy
> > of all known light units to date. Of course you need
> > to use the right frequency to pulse the laser to get
> > the results as frequency therapy is an exact science.
> >
> > But all light therapy units have benefit and many have
> > hazards. Know what they are before you use them and
> > you will do great work.
> >
> > There is a paper on my site, www.lazrpulsr.com on the
> > brochures page that will explain most of what you ask.
> >
> >
> > Dr. Gerry Graham III
> >
> > --- esl5552001 <SCL555@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I am considering buying a laser and would like to
> > > know if a nonpulsed
> > > laser can be as effective as pulsed laser? Also can
> > > a 40mw
> > > 650nm laser be effective for deep penetration into
> > > tissues?
> > > I notice that some lasers like the Erchonia use
> > > 635nm laser and claim
> > > effectiveness for deep tissue healing at 5mw. One
> > > manufacturer said
> > > that as mw go up treatment time goes down (within a
> > > certain range).
> > > It's confusing to say the least. I am interested in
> > > using a laser for
> > > accupressure point stimulation and general
> > > musculoskeletal healing.
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Steve Levine
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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