marie-
you ask a very good question, what do "we" have to lose? "we" are in the process of figuring out who "we" are right now. there are many groups who consider themselves a part of structural integration. myself, i would consider NMT to be "structural bodywork," as it is missing some of the key elements that create what we consider the "integration" aspect of our work. the danger of passing out our session notes freely is that structural bodyworkers then do the sessions on a body without the context of integration to support the work. the idea is that any one can take a body apart, but it requires special education or superior critical thinking skills together with certain givens to approximate integration in the structural system. it doesnt really have anything to do with paying so much as we have to learn what we've learned. it has more to do with the elitist attitude we carry in general due to our superior knowledge and more modern context, please forgive "us" if you will. and please ask more questions!
-henry
ps- good books on the subject of session contact points and movement mcan be found at edmaupin.com. look for "the structural metaphor."
marie- you ask a very good question, what do "we" have to lose? "we" are in the process of figuring out who "we" are right now. there are many groups who...
Hpk3rd@...
Jun 27, 2002 8:45 am
Years ago there was a person who reportedly ran to his car after each session to write down what the rolfer did. On this basis he reportedly later began ...
Ronraven@...
Jun 27, 2002 8:30 pm
I would be interested in knowing the name of this reported person. Marie...
In a message dated 6/27/2002 4:54:13 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, tartarean@... writes: <<I would be interested in knowing the name of this reported person. ...
ETOAL4@...
Jun 28, 2002 2:59 am
Eww. Sounds like a real creep. He really "Rolfed" his wife into a wheelchair? Marie...
Thanks Ed. It's important here to not lose the thread of the message of Jack Painter's story which, it seems to me, is about how easy it is to misunderstand...
Ronraven@...
Jun 28, 2002 7:05 am
Well Marie you have a way of just hitting on all of the sore spots. Jack Painter was never a "Rolfer" what he did under the name of Postural Integration had...
Red Wolf
rwolf@...
Jun 28, 2002 8:52 pm
This difficulty in communicating about rolfing with words is not a problem that has anything to do with rolfing. It has to do with the language. For the most...
Ronraven@...
Jun 28, 2002 11:06 pm
To all who having found in me a whipping boy: Actually I enclosed the word "rolfing" in quotation marks to indicate that I knew he was not really performing...
... The word "theraputic" is the key here. Dr. Rolf was adamant that rolfers were not therapists, but educators; teaching the body/mind how to adapt better to...
Dameron, When I had my ten series, one of the things that "sold" me on it was the bit about restoring my body to a state of good posture and a strengthened ...
In a message dated 6/28/2002 7:41:48 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, ... Marie, May I point out that none of the negative comments came from Rolfers? Not trying to...
ETOAL4@...
Jun 29, 2002 6:17 am
Marie, Fellow practitioners, It is important to not that there is a distinction between the consumer's definition of Rolfing and the legal one. Interestingly,...
Marie; Upon reading the postings resulting from your posting it appears that you might have inadvertently stumbled into a den of harmless metaphysicians. I...
Ronraven@...
Jun 29, 2002 6:45 pm
Marie, I didn't intend to make you angry. You have hit on topics that have been sensitive, to me. I am not a Rolfer but I lived in the San Francisco area when...
Red Wolf
rwolf@...
Jun 29, 2002 9:26 pm
Red Wolf, Upon re-reading your post after I already sent my venting post, I saw you were coming from a good space and not as judgmental as it appeared the...
Marie Once again I may not be very popular, but I thought a precison may be indicated. you say: << I have been of the opinion that the work I do is a form of...
These two thoughts contradict eachother. At once you are saying that everyone takes away something different from the training or experience but that there is...
In a message dated 6/29/02 10:07:36 PM Pacific SA Standard Time, ... actually, 'twas i who made that distinction. and it is the most important distinction , i...
Hpk3rd@...
Jun 30, 2002 4:28 am
... Yes. I was redundant. ... movement ... with ... notion So now you're getting into Jungian bodywork! Sounds good. Your description is conceptually...
I hope this is the right address but you got me real hot on the phone last night I went into my bedroom and well, you know but I taped it for you to watch its...
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