Wow seems like you could do with a stress management class. Do you always attack everyone baselessly when you don't get what you want. Hm why not start your own list if you are so unhappy. We live in a relatively free world where people can choose to share or not. Your accusation that the reason structural integration is so poorly know cloud not be more off the mark. Structural integration is a new very new science/art/philosophy. As DR Rolf once said its an experience and unfortunately far too few people on our planet have actually experienced this phenomenal transformation. so we are busy passing it on from one person to another. The knowledge will do you no good without the experience.
I really don't care how many other practices you have studied or how smart you are structural integration is an art that one must learn how to create. Your outburst without an apology I am sure will lead you further into the darkness...
Robert Toporek
Advanced Certified Rolf Practitioner
www.teamchildren.com
... if you ... Hi there! Yes, i'm afraid that this attitude is more prevalent than i'd like to admit at times. I think part of it stems from long history: both...
My Dear Marie, Wow seems like you could do with a stress management class. Do you always attack everyone baselessly when you don't get what you want. Hm why...
RBtop@...
Jun 26, 2002 12:01 pm
Hi Dameron, Thank you for your response. I agree that there are many practitioners who, with a little information, will bastardize a theory or technique. I...
In a message dated 6/25/2002 11:05:05 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, ... Marie, I agree with you. I thought Carl's response to your question was incredibly rude....
ETOAL4@...
Jun 26, 2002 6:12 pm
Hi Marie, Let me apologize for the cold shower you received, I am glad to see that not all feel the same about your inquiry. Please realize that you are the...
Joseph Heller has an interesting take on "information" in general. He suggests that we call in-formation information because it is in formation, that is not...
Hello Reda, Thank you for your thought provoking insight and informative response. The intellectual property information is very interesting to me. Are SI or ...
Hi Marie, Yes I am sometimes provoking, and I also sometimes regret, especially considering what this particular forum represents. This is the 1st historical...
Reda- Your take on the "elders" or "leaders" or "gurus" of SI is so off base that I have to interject my own opinion. I've read your rants about this subject ...
well put buddy, - and almost as extensive as reda's posts! it is a practice, to be engaged in the experience. words have less to do with it than the ...
Hpk3rd@...
Jun 27, 2002 5:06 pm
Buddy, It is good to hear you. (Buddy and I were classmates at GSI) I must relate to what you are saying, sympathize with your passion, and agree that you may...
marie- you ask a very good question, what do "we" have to lose? "we" are in the process of figuring out who "we" are right now. there are many groups who...
Hpk3rd@...
Jun 27, 2002 8:45 am
Years ago there was a person who reportedly ran to his car after each session to write down what the rolfer did. On this basis he reportedly later began ...
Ronraven@...
Jun 27, 2002 8:30 pm
I would be interested in knowing the name of this reported person. Marie...
In a message dated 6/27/2002 4:54:13 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, tartarean@... writes: <<I would be interested in knowing the name of this reported person. ...
ETOAL4@...
Jun 28, 2002 2:59 am
Eww. Sounds like a real creep. He really "Rolfed" his wife into a wheelchair? Marie...
Thanks Ed. It's important here to not lose the thread of the message of Jack Painter's story which, it seems to me, is about how easy it is to misunderstand...
Ronraven@...
Jun 28, 2002 7:05 am
Well Marie you have a way of just hitting on all of the sore spots. Jack Painter was never a "Rolfer" what he did under the name of Postural Integration had...
Red Wolf
rwolf@...
Jun 28, 2002 8:52 pm
This difficulty in communicating about rolfing with words is not a problem that has anything to do with rolfing. It has to do with the language. For the most...
Ronraven@...
Jun 28, 2002 11:06 pm
To all who having found in me a whipping boy: Actually I enclosed the word "rolfing" in quotation marks to indicate that I knew he was not really performing...
... The word "theraputic" is the key here. Dr. Rolf was adamant that rolfers were not therapists, but educators; teaching the body/mind how to adapt better to...
Dameron, When I had my ten series, one of the things that "sold" me on it was the bit about restoring my body to a state of good posture and a strengthened ...
In a message dated 6/28/2002 7:41:48 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, ... Marie, May I point out that none of the negative comments came from Rolfers? Not trying to...
ETOAL4@...
Jun 29, 2002 6:17 am
Marie, Fellow practitioners, It is important to not that there is a distinction between the consumer's definition of Rolfing and the legal one. Interestingly,...
Marie; Upon reading the postings resulting from your posting it appears that you might have inadvertently stumbled into a den of harmless metaphysicians. I...
Ronraven@...
Jun 29, 2002 6:45 pm
Marie, I didn't intend to make you angry. You have hit on topics that have been sensitive, to me. I am not a Rolfer but I lived in the San Francisco area when...
Red Wolf
rwolf@...
Jun 29, 2002 9:26 pm
Red Wolf, Upon re-reading your post after I already sent my venting post, I saw you were coming from a good space and not as judgmental as it appeared the...
Marie Once again I may not be very popular, but I thought a precison may be indicated. you say: << I have been of the opinion that the work I do is a form of...
These two thoughts contradict eachother. At once you are saying that everyone takes away something different from the training or experience but that there is...
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