[the following is posted at the request of Jim Pascucci]

I am thinking of creating a new type of meeting where people can share in a more
"realtime" format. The impetus for this came from my meeting with a number of SI
practitioners whose practices are not doing that well.

The new meeting is based on using NetMeeting, a free Microsoft product. The
first several
meetings will be about practice building. I am asking Cosper Scafidi, a Rolfer
and MBA in
Marketing to present to us a presentation he gave at the last Rolf Institute
Annual meeting
on this subject.

I realized that I had mentioned this to the Rolf Forum and that it may be of
interest to a
wider SI community. Please feel free to contact me if you are interested or if
you have
questions at jpascu@...

[moderator's note: Netmeeting is currently only available on Windows systems]

Hi Structural Integrators

For a few weeks, the buzz has been that the IASI Symposium in
Seattle, October 14 - 16 has been full up and thus closed to any more
folks who wanted to attend.  After some negotiation with the Hyatt,
we have been able to obtain more space, so:

Registration is open again.  Come.

Nearly 400 SI practitioners, mostly from Rolf, Heller, and Guild, but
some from each of about 10 smaller schools as well, plan to attend
this gathering, as well as vendors and about 20 breakout workshops.
We will hear from Deane Juhan, as well as the original voices of
Rosemary Feitis, Louis Schultz, and Jim Oschman.  We will also be
celebrating Peter Melchior's life and widespread influence.

This meeting will also set the tone for the next phase of research,
communication among schools and faculty on curriculum, our future
path with legislation and competency assurance, exams and evaluative
processes, and just generally making the best use of the resurgent
interest in SI, and this opportunity to band and bond together.

Come be part of it, make your voice heard.

Thanks, Tom Myers



And Amy, thanks for this link below.  It led down some great alleyways.


On Sep 17, 2005, at 12:04 AM, Amy Adamczak wrote:



> For your viewing pleasure.  Antique images from the National
> Institute of Health Library.
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/dreamanatomy/
>
> AA

>Dear SI practitioners
>
>for European practitioners, consult   www.rolfing.org
>
>this is just the Rolfers, and if Hellers or Guilders have a website
>for their own Euro directory, please put it on this forum.
>
>There are only a couple of KMI practitioners in Europe, all in UK, so
>when I am referring in Europe, I use the European Rolfing Association
>list at this site.
>
>Tom M

http://www.rolfguild.org/intl.html

http://www.hellerwork.com/practitioners.php

Dear SI practitioners

for European practitioners, consult   www.rolfing.org

this is just the Rolfers, and if Hellers or Guilders have a website
for their own Euro directory, please put it on this forum.

There are only a couple of KMI practitioners in Europe, all in UK, so
when I am referring in Europe, I use the European Rolfing Association
list at this site.

Tom M

David Lesondak, KMI trained, 2002
412-921-2751

On Sep 16, 2005, at 8:43 PM, spas_bojanov wrote:

> Hello,
>
> can anyone give a referral for a practitioner in Pittsburgh?
>
> thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
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Thank you very much.

I'll try to call you today to setup an appointment.

best regards,

Spas


mgdbodymechanic@... wrote:
> Hi Spas,
>
> If you look on www.theiase.org you can get a worldwide list of S.I.
> pratitioners.  Here's a lsit of us in the Pittsburgh area.
>
>     Michael G. Duray  KMI graduate on 4/28/2004
>     Pittsburgh, PA 15219 USA     (office) 412-719-0670 (fax) 412-621-6667
>
>     Brian Joly  Rolf Institute graduate on 4/17/2003
>     Pittsburgh, PA 15221-3235 USA     ((none)) 412-242-0578 ((none))
> ((none))
>
>     David Lesondak  KMI graduate on 11/01/2003
>     Pittsburgh, PA 15205 USA     (office) 412-741-8424 ((none))
>
>     Trisha Marner   Rolf Institute graduate on 11/09/2003
>     Pittsburgh, PA 15224 USA     (office) 412-915-1310
>
> David and I trade sessions when our schedules permit so I can vouch for
> his work and hopefully, he will vouch for mine.  I haven't felt Brian's
> work, but I hear good things from those that have.  I haven't met Trish,
> but her background is good.
>
> Make some calls and pick one.
>
>
> Mike Duray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spas_bojanov
> Sent: Sep 16, 2005 8:43 PM
> To: Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Structural_Integration] seekin practitioner in Pittsburgh, PA
>
> Hello,
>
> can anyone give a referral for a practitioner in Pittsburgh?
>
> thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com, mgdbodymechanic@e... wrote:
> Hi Spas,
>
> If you look on www.theiase.org you can get a worldwide list of S.I.
pratitioners.  Here's a
lsit of us in the Pittsburgh area.

That's the http://www.theiasi.org

Hi Spas,

If you look on www.theiase.org you can get a worldwide list of S.I.
pratitioners.  Here's a lsit of us in the Pittsburgh area.

     Michael G. Duray  KMI graduate on 4/28/2004
     Pittsburgh, PA 15219 USA     (office) 412-719-0670 (fax) 412-621-6667

     Brian Joly  Rolf Institute graduate on 4/17/2003
     Pittsburgh, PA 15221-3235 USA     ((none)) 412-242-0578 ((none)) ((none))

     David Lesondak  KMI graduate on 11/01/2003
     Pittsburgh, PA 15205 USA     (office) 412-741-8424 ((none))

     Trisha Marner   Rolf Institute graduate on 11/09/2003
     Pittsburgh, PA 15224 USA     (office) 412-915-1310

David and I trade sessions when our schedules permit so I can vouch for his work
and hopefully, he will vouch for mine.  I haven't felt Brian's work, but I hear
good things from those that have.  I haven't met Trish, but her background is
good.

Make some calls and pick one.


Mike Duray


-----Original Message-----
From: spas_bojanov
Sent: Sep 16, 2005 8:43 PM
To: Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Structural_Integration] seekin practitioner in Pittsburgh, PA

Hello,

can anyone give a referral for a practitioner in Pittsburgh?

thank you.

Hello,

can anyone give a referral for a practitioner in Pittsburgh?

thank you.

Robert Schleip is a Rolfing teacher who lives in Munich, and I have heard
wonderful things about him.

www.somatics.de/RSchleip.html or try googling Rolfing Munich Germany Schleip

Best,
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Structural_Integration] Re: SI practitioners in southeast Germany

Does anyone know any SI practitioners in southeastern Germany?



Tom
Where does Christoph Sommer live?

thanks in advance
Lucia


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Yahoo! Groups Links

Lucia

Since the Guild et al have fewer practitioners in Germany, your best
bet is rolf.org for finding practitioners in Europe.
If you need help knowing where people are, the European Rolfing
Association can help.

Christoph, an excellent practitioner living in Munich but also
practicing out towards Rosenheim, can be reached at +49-8025-99-37-37

Tom


On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Serveup@... wrote:

> Does anyone know any SI practitioners in southeastern Germany?
>
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> Where does Christoph Sommer live?
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> thanks in advance
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Does anyone know any SI practitioners in southeastern Germany?



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Where does Christoph Sommer live?

thanks in advance
Lucia


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[the following is a repost of the ROLF_FORUM from Marijah Baldwin,
reposted at the request of Marilyn Beech with Marijah's permission]

Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marijah Baldwin <marijahbaldwin@...>
Subject: Attention all Colorado Rolfers
To: rolf-forum

I have contacted the governor's office and also I just spoke with the
local United Way. The lady said she believes that there is a place
and need for us if we would like to bring a little "healing touch" to
the hurricane refugees that have arrived here in Denver. Some are
being housed at Lowry and others have been put up at various hotels
so she said we could send people to different sites. Some of the
other volunteers out there could also probably use a little TLC from
us.

Someone else will be getting back to me in terms of details and I
will let you know as soon as I hear something. In the meantime, she
said it would be helpful to know how many volunteers we are talking
about so if there are anymore of you out there that are interested in
helping, please contact me [see email below].  If you personally know
any massage therapist or Guild members that you think might be
interested in helping, please let me know.

As I suspected and understandably, she said that at this time no-one
is allowed to just show up out there. Again - I will keep you posted
as soon as I hear anything back from them.

Marijah
marijahbaldwin@...

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The best nutrition I know of for healing the tissues is large amounts
of dark green leafy veg juices - kale, collards, parsley, chard,
spinach, pasley, dandelion and beet greens - up to two quarts a day
even.  Also handfuls of seaweed - kelp and wakame a number of times a
day - I healed a severly sprained thumb and wrist that way and also a
numbed nerve in two fingers.  It also has helped me remove some of
these tissue indentation areas on my own legs.

Dr Schulze's deep tissue oil http://www.herbdoc.com is  very
effective in reducing the pain and immediate trauma but not to
totally heal the tissue.  I read a famous doctor said it takes seven
times the amount of nutrition to repair and heal as it does to
maintain.

Comfrey root powder poultices - powder avail in health food stores
and from Frontier Natl Food products in Iowa helps right on the
injury as it has healing properties for tissues even down to the
bones.

Dr Christopher's in Utah also has herbal capsules for bone flesh and
cartilage but I found the best and fastest healing is the veg juices,
salads, and so forth.  If juicing - can also add sprouts for added
enzyme healing - but it is the dark leafy greens supplemented with
loads and loads of kelp and wakame that really seems to do the trick
for me and others I know.  This is what I have used for myself and
them for 10 years.

Lou

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>       2. Re: Crush injury/Soft tissue trauma
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:44 -0700
>    From: Geoff <Geoff@...>
> Subject: Re: Crush injury/Soft tissue trauma
>
> Garrell,
>
> Interestingly enough, someone I know had, what sounds like, a
> similar
> "dent" in the tissue of her leg and had had it worked on in a
> number of
> different ways with little result. She eventually had some success
> when
> seeing a TCM practitioner who applied cupping
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupping) to the area.
>
> Anyway, for what it's worth.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Geoff
>
> Garrell Herndon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Someone very close to me suffered crush injury about 2 years ago.
> She's
> > a SI practitioner and has been through the series since the
> injury. The
> > injury is on her leg, about six inches above the ankle. There is
> a dent
> > in the calf(more specific about muscle and location). What happen
> was a
> > car knocked her off her bike at low speed. Her leg was trapped
> between
> > the frame of the bike and the car. The dent in her leg looks to
> be from
> > where the bike frame was pressing on it. She lives in Boulder CO.
> >
> > She's still in negotiation with the drivers insurance, and she
> needs a
> > professional medical opinion about the current state of the leg,
> and
> > implications of the injury for the future. Any suggestions on
> health
> > care providers that might know about such an injury?
> >
> > What are the chances that the tissue will heal and go back to its
> > original shape? It's very sensitive to the touch. Are there any
> > therapies out there that might address such a trauma? I keep
> thinking
> > that SI should help, and it does, but the trauma is deep and
> seems
> > fixed in the body.
> >
> > She reports yoga type stretching helps.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > garrell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:20:47 -0400
>    From: sharon@...
> Subject: Re: Crush injury/Soft tissue trauma
>
> Garrell,
>
> I had a client years ago who suffered a gastroc tear and ended up
> with a 1.5
> inch dent in his calf muscle. He was virtually crippled by the
> injury and
> had been unable to play squash for two years due to the injury. I
> followed a
> technique that Joseph Heller taught me and that was to push tissue
> into the
> hole, as if you are trying to fill it up. You push from opposite
> sides of
> the hole at the same time toward the center. Come from all
> directions around
> the border of the hole. Literally within minutes, the hole began to
>
> disappear and he regained full function of his leg within a single
> session.
> I was sceptical that this amazing result would last for very long,
> but it
> did and both my client and I were shocked that it did. It appeared
> that the
> tissue knitted itself back together in a very, very short time. Try
> it and
> let us know if this works for this client's particular problem.
>
> Sharon Butler
> http://www.selfcare4rsi.com
>
>
>
>
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Garrell,

I had a client years ago who suffered a gastroc tear and ended up with a 1.5
inch dent in his calf muscle. He was virtually crippled by the injury and
had been unable to play squash for two years due to the injury. I followed a
technique that Joseph Heller taught me and that was to push tissue into the
hole, as if you are trying to fill it up. You push from opposite sides of
the hole at the same time toward the center. Come from all directions around
the border of the hole. Literally within minutes, the hole began to
disappear and he regained full function of his leg within a single session.
I was sceptical that this amazing result would last for very long, but it
did and both my client and I were shocked that it did. It appeared that the
tissue knitted itself back together in a very, very short time. Try it and
let us know if this works for this client's particular problem.

Sharon Butler
http://www.selfcare4rsi.com

Garrell,

Interestingly enough, someone I know had, what sounds like, a similar
"dent" in the tissue of her leg and had had it worked on in a number of
different ways with little result. She eventually had some success when
seeing a TCM practitioner who applied cupping
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupping) to the area.

Anyway, for what it's worth.

Sincerely,

Geoff

Garrell Herndon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Someone very close to me suffered crush injury about 2 years ago. She's
> a SI practitioner and has been through the series since the injury. The
> injury is on her leg, about six inches above the ankle. There is a dent
> in the calf(more specific about muscle and location). What happen was a
> car knocked her off her bike at low speed. Her leg was trapped between
> the frame of the bike and the car. The dent in her leg looks to be from
> where the bike frame was pressing on it. She lives in Boulder CO.
>
> She's still in negotiation with the drivers insurance, and she needs a
> professional medical opinion about the current state of the leg, and
> implications of the injury for the future. Any suggestions on health
> care providers that might know about such an injury?
>
> What are the chances that the tissue will heal and go back to its
> original shape? It's very sensitive to the touch. Are there any
> therapies out there that might address such a trauma? I keep thinking
> that SI should help, and it does, but the trauma is deep and seems
> fixed in the body.
>
> She reports yoga type stretching helps.
>
> Thanks,
> garrell
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi all,

Someone very close to me suffered crush injury about 2 years ago. She's
a SI practitioner and has been through the series since the injury. The
injury is on her leg, about six inches above the ankle. There is a dent
in the calf(more specific about muscle and location). What happen was a
car knocked her off her bike at low speed. Her leg was trapped between
the frame of the bike and the car. The dent in her leg looks to be from
where the bike frame was pressing on it. She lives in Boulder CO.

She's still in negotiation with the drivers insurance, and she needs a
professional medical opinion about the current state of the leg, and
implications of the injury for the future. Any suggestions on health
care providers that might know about such an injury?

What are the chances that the tissue will heal and go back to its
original shape? It's very sensitive to the touch. Are there any
therapies out there that might address such a trauma? I keep thinking
that SI should help, and it does, but the trauma is deep and seems
fixed in the body.

She reports yoga type stretching helps.

Thanks,
garrell

Yup, going deeper into psoas, hamstrings, inside of head and
adductors has done a lot more of the trick.  Lots of intersonnected
deep releases up and down the whole body.  Tnx, Lou

--- In Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com, "louisryoshin"
<louisryoshin@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like some ideas - help.  I have been working with a woman
who
> has been extremely tight all the way down to the bones for years -
from
> many years of running and also childhood emotional tightness.  I
have
> been making very good progress and she is more erect, looser, and
> flexible than she has been in years - one part of the structure
> loosening is helping others release - and I can push right thru the
> thighs ro the quads from the hamstrings - so it is all getting a
lot
> better.  She has also improves her diet and we have done a large
amount
> of old emotional releases from the structure and organs, too.
>
> Now the problem.
>
> When she lies flat on her back, the back lies flat on the table -
but
> when she sits up she gets bulging erector muscles all the way up
> starting from the base of the spine - and there is a notch of the
> vertebrae between them.  If she stands up - same bulges and
> indentation.  When she bends over from the waist about 45 deg give
or
> take, the bulges and notch go away.
>
> She also has the left leg tighter than the right up thru the
thigh.
> Even tho I have done the thighs rather deeply, and also pushed a
LOT on
> the abs to open them and lift the rib cage - when she bends over
you
> could see the lower back being tight and being held by what feels
like
> the legs.
>
> when she has the rear legs longer than the front of the body - she
gets
> a nice sturdy-light uplift but also a pain in the left lower back
just
> above the buttocks and even a pull down in the left side of the
face.
> She has a notch in the vertebrae-disk area just at the base of the
neck
> where the upper back and rib cage curve over and the neck pulls
back.
>
> Having her stretch with her arm up and go all the way down and
around
> in all the areas incl the pelvis in front and side and groin, the
> painful sensations go away.  They used to be there for hours or
days
> before a lot of our treatment.
>
> I can tell that if I put myself into her position and then have to
arch
> the back to compensate for imbalanced extra long hamstrings (as
opposed
> to still too short front of the body) that I get pains and
tightness
> just where she does.
>
> I know I have more psoas, illiacus and leg musculature to lengthen -

> especially the hamstrings deeper still - as I can get only an inch
or
> inch and a half down into between them wigh my elbow even - and
then I
> can use my fingers to get more and to spread those leayers so far
> across.
>
> So - what am I missing please or what should I emphasize more to
1.)
> fix the pelvic tilt and 2.) to raidse the rib cage further up in
front
> and diminish the notch between say - C7 - T1 where she has a
vertebral
> hump sticking out.
>
> Thanks,
> Lou
>
>
>
> --- In Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com, Moyoga@a... wrote:
> > Hello...
> > My dear friend in Milford Conn...(06460) is looking for a SI
> practitioner for
> > his wife ... hoping to avoid another back surgery....
> > I would appreciate any referrals ...
> > thank you in advance...
> > Lauree Moretto
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Lao,
Question: where are you in the recepie? It's hard to relate to your request
without knowing it.
Thanks
Orna Bat David


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi,

I would like some ideas - help.  I have been working with a woman who
has been extremely tight all the way down to the bones for years - from
many years of running and also childhood emotional tightness.  I have
been making very good progress and she is more erect, looser, and
flexible than she has been in years - one part of the structure
loosening is helping others release - and I can push right thru the
thighs ro the quads from the hamstrings - so it is all getting a lot
better.  She has also improves her diet and we have done a large amount
of old emotional releases from the structure and organs, too.

Now the problem.

When she lies flat on her back, the back lies flat on the table - but
when she sits up she gets bulging erector muscles all the way up
starting from the base of the spine - and there is a notch of the
vertebrae between them.  If she stands up - same bulges and
indentation.  When she bends over from the waist about 45 deg give or
take, the bulges and notch go away.

She also has the left leg tighter than the right up thru the thigh.
Even tho I have done the thighs rather deeply, and also pushed a LOT on
the abs to open them and lift the rib cage - when she bends over you
could see the lower back being tight and being held by what feels like
the legs.

when she has the rear legs longer than the front of the body - she gets
a nice sturdy-light uplift but also a pain in the left lower back just
above the buttocks and even a pull down in the left side of the face.
She has a notch in the vertebrae-disk area just at the base of the neck
where the upper back and rib cage curve over and the neck pulls back.

Having her stretch with her arm up and go all the way down and around
in all the areas incl the pelvis in front and side and groin, the
painful sensations go away.  They used to be there for hours or days
before a lot of our treatment.

I can tell that if I put myself into her position and then have to arch
the back to compensate for imbalanced extra long hamstrings (as opposed
to still too short front of the body) that I get pains and tightness
just where she does.

I know I have more psoas, illiacus and leg musculature to lengthen -
especially the hamstrings deeper still - as I can get only an inch or
inch and a half down into between them wigh my elbow even - and then I
can use my fingers to get more and to spread those leayers so far
across.

So - what am I missing please or what should I emphasize more to 1.)
fix the pelvic tilt and 2.) to raidse the rib cage further up in front
and diminish the notch between say - C7 - T1 where she has a vertebral
hump sticking out.

Thanks,
Lou



--- In Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com, Moyoga@a... wrote:
> Hello...
> My dear friend in Milford Conn...(06460) is looking for a SI
practitioner for
> his wife ... hoping to avoid another back surgery....
> I would appreciate any referrals ...
> thank you in advance...
> Lauree Moretto
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello...
My dear friend in Milford Conn...(06460) is looking for a SI practitioner for
his wife ... hoping to avoid another back surgery....
I would appreciate any referrals ...
thank you in advance...
Lauree Moretto


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dave Kennedy - address above, is nearby
and there used to be an oldtime rolfer there named James Bardot, but
I don't know if he is still practicing - might be worth a look in the
book.

Tom M


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> hello all,
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>     i'm looking for a practitioner in the laguna area of socal
> (949).  any
> leads?
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> thanks in advance.
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> -henry
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The best I know are Daniel Rawson, 949 306 2676 and Regina Roland 949 720 1516


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hello all,

     i'm looking for a practitioner in the laguna area of socal (949).  any
leads?

thanks in advance.

-henry


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If this person has been diagnosed by a competent genetic counseling M.D. with
this condition then I would be very careful with any kind of deep tissue
structural integration.
Check a Merck manual or the following link http://www.ednf.org/whatiseds.html
. You could cause internal bleeding and serious joint distentions.  All the
nutrition in the world will not help this condition much. Probably, if this
person has this diagnosis then they have gone down the nutrition and exercise
paths a ways and should know about problems therof.....Structural Integration is
still valid and movement and energy work can be invaluable but be careful with
stretchable, friable and bleeding connective tissues.......
Good work in asking....now we all get to learn a bit.

Jim Dohn


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Hi Dennis,

This is a nutrition problem.  I have known a few people with easily
bruising and did research with some very knowledgeable people for
years on myself and with others.  At the very least she needs a lot
of cal-mag and trace minerals and a large amount of chlorophyll in
fresh veg form plus - bioflavenoids are good for building up
capilarry (sp?) walls.  (Sooo many people are deficient in adequate
C-complex.)  One of the best whole food ways to get a lot of
C-complex and Bioflavenoids is from Rose Hips cut and sifted - can
get at big healthfood stores - organic better.  She can also get a
lot of capsules but it is not as effective.  I will talk with you and
email with you a lot more info if you want - just emnail me back.

Lou


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>    Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:01:05 -0000
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> Subject: Ehlers- Danlos Syndrome
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> I had a lady referred to me for a series and I did a phone
> interview
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> female who suffers from Ehlers- Syndrome type 3 and thats she
> brusied
> easy. So I'm not sure if I can reffer her out to someonefor even a
> a
> lite massage much less a KMI series. Any thoughts any one ever
> dealt
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I had a lady referred to me for a series and I did a phone interview
with her before she came in to see me. She told me that she is a 67
female who suffers from Ehlers- Syndrome type 3 and thats she brusied
easy. So I'm not sure if I can reffer her out to someonefor even a a
lite massage much less a KMI series. Any thoughts any one ever dealt
with this before? She's calling back on friday... Please help out a
rookie.
THanks
Dennis

Does anyone know of a Rolfer or Hellerworker in Boynton Beach (near West Palm)
Florida?

Thanks!

Nick Klevans
Princeton,NJ

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Sharon,

Do you know of an E.N.T. or a doctor of audiology you could suggest for her?
   Also it sounds like she may be suffering from what Barrett Dorko calls an
"abnormal neurodynamic".  Mr. Dorko is a P.T., poet and prolific writer with
a very interesting web site at his name .com.

Sincerely,

Chancellor Mobley

>From: sharon@...
>Reply-To: Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com
>To: "HWOnline" <HellerworkersOnline@yahoogroups.com>
>CC: "Structural Integration" <Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Structural_Integration] Help Needed: TOS and bulging vein in hand
>Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 23:36:30 -0400
>
>Dear Fellow Hellerworkers and Structural Integrationists,
>
>I received the following email from a woman who has consulted with me over
>the phone for help with her Thoracic Outlet Syndrome symptoms. She has also
>used my specialized program of stretching for dealing with her symptoms,
>but
>I do not believe she has received the 10 series from anyone, despite my
>recommendation to her that she do so.
>
>When she first emailed me about this "blanking out" problem, I suggested
>that she see someone trained in cranio-sacral therapy to help deal with the
>problem. Apparently, she did not follow that advice and instead went to see
>a TMJ dentist and a C-1 chiropractor. Now that major dental work appears to
>be underway, I am afraid that she has surpassed the place where I feel
>competent to help with her issues. So, I turn to you in the hopes that
>someone out there may be familiar with what kind of dental work or chiro
>adjustments may have been done and what  effect that may be having on her
>neck to support the return of her problematic TOS symptoms/migraines/numb
>fingers, etc.
>
>Any help that you can offer would be great. Email your ideas back to me and
>I will pass them on to Nancy.
>
>Many thanks,
>Sharon Butler
>Certified Hellerwork Practitioner
>
>Nancy Henderson writes:
>
> > Hi Sharon...
> >
> > I talked with you some time ago, and you were very kind.  I was blanking
> > out as I bent my head down, and you told me to go to a specific
>therapist
> > that I did check out.
> > But, instead, I did go long term to  A TMJ DDS, and a C-1 chirpractor
> > ultimately determined it was coming from a bite problem-- that was in
>turn
> > effecting the neck.
> >
> > All was great and stable for months in the splint-- atlas stable (I had
> > been of 6 degrees in one direction, and 8 in another-- significant)
>Then
> > we started dental reconstruction... and lowered the bite.. and blanking,
> > TOS, fatigue dizziness returned... and I could not chew for getting a
> > migraine.  That was 2 months ago, and after 2 sets of temps and
> > permanents, I am still waiting for the right bite.  It seems we have
>lost
> > it again.  I have been unable to work (I'm an artist) for 2 months.
> >
> > My Q---
> >
> > I experience TOS with this bite position. My last two fingers in both
> > hands are numb... particularly my dominate right, which I broke (radius
> > and ulna) 7 years ago.  It was not ever set right.   With this new TOS,
> > now half my hand is a bit numb and tingly-- and down into the wrist.
> > Today I looked down, and saw the back of my hand swell up.  It was the
> > vien... just like getting an IV that goes into tissue rather than the
> > vein.  It lasted about 30 minutes.  Now I have a bruise about the size
>of
> > a half dollar.
> > I have heard that TOS causes problems like this....
> >
> > Can you fill me in?  I can't afford to go to a MD, unless its a really
>big
> > problem.
> >
> > Thank You..
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>Sharon Butler
>http://www.selfcare4rsi.com
>
>

Thats beautiful...man! You put things in very understandable terms.

Julius Daniels, KMI LMT

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:   Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
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: Subject: Re: Digest Number 295
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: Dear Practitioners - please forgive this enormously long letter.  I
: have tried to send it to Sharon directly at her email address as she
: requests in her letter but it came back mailer daemon undeliverable
: to that address - I don't know why.  The text of my letter explains
: it is something Nancy can read that will help Sharon to help her to
: try Structural Integration.
:
: Dear Sharon, ..... snipped the rest



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