Hello, I have a new client who has been dealing with a chronic issue of
shoulder pain diagnosed as C7 Radiculopathy. I'm a fairly new
practitioner who has been dealing with mostly structural annoyances and
not too much pathology. Beacuse of the imflamed and compressive
situation of the spine, I'd appreciate any advice as to the most
productive path of relief. Jon.

Hello folks!
The Rossiter work shop is hosted by the Structural Integration faculty
of Institute for Psycho-Structural Balancing (IPSB)  8/24-26/07
(Friday- Sunday) and there is still room for more people.
To see the brochure go to our group website and click on "files" on
the Left side bar.
This is one of those hindsight workshops; what I mean is that you have
no way of perceiving the value you are going to get before attending
the class.
When I took it I felt some release in different areas of my body that
got worked on but I didn't feel anything miraculous ( I am usually
pain free).  It was only when I "dared" to step on my clients that the
miracle like events happened.  It is mind boggling to see how fast the
results and improvement are in your clients.  I find that Richard
Rossiter is very insightful and creative in how he developed his work.
  The use of feet in structural work makes so much sense to me in that
you can connect with a lot of connective tissue with your foot and it
is softer yet more powerful than your elbow. He gives a whole new
perspective to Ida P. Rolf's idea that "where ever you think it is, it
ain't".
This workshop will give you so many valuable tools to help people out
of pain; not to mention sell them on a ten series (they are more
motivated when they feel the results) I just can't say enough to
encourage you to try this workshop.
The workshop will be held at IPSB's new campus:
9025 Balboa Ave. San Diego 92123
You can sign up directly from his website.  To do so follow this link:
http://www.rossiter.com/individual/seminar/default.asp

Peace be with you,

Ron Arbel

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Hi All,

Tom's email resonated with me.  I suppose that our cultural pattern is  quite
often to attach to the "label," medicate it and often lose touch with the
authentic essence of the individual.  How many of us are not challenged  with
some form of OCD, in a society where evolution is speeding up to a point  where
processing information on any level has become challenging for many.   My own
personal experience with any form of "OCD," is the need to find some  level of
control over that which feels "out of control."  The label may be  a
wonderful "health opportunity" to explore where the body is holding 
density/emotional
energy, that can be released in a safe  and non-threatening way.  We may
often notice more rigidity in the  body of someone holding tightly to the "fear"
of losing control.  Any "OCD"  behaviors that many of us can relate to (whether
addictions - chemical, sexual,  work, exercise and obsessional
thinking...just to name a few), are simply ways  of "medicating" and attempting
to create
the illusion of control/safety in an  environment that feels "unsafe and out of
control" somehow.  OCD  behaviors are attempts to "stay out of the body," to
maintain a dissociative  state or disconnect between the mind/body, in order to
resist coming into that  which may feel extremely uncomfortable and foreign
at first.

I am not discounting that information from the
medical/psychiatric/psychological community can be helpful, however, I am 
acknowledging that we are so
much more than the label.  The "label," in my  opinion, can actually create
enough distance to inhibit or block  potential healing.  OCD in particular, when
accurately diagnosed,  does usually entail a highly defensive structure
(psychologically,  emotionally and physically) which can be difficult to
penetrate.
The  client must feel a level of trust and safety to consider inviting  anyone
into their world, beyond the gates.  If the body temple is the  center of
holding, then it would make sense, that our work, brought  forward with a loving
and integral intention, could in fact be, one of the  most beautiful vehicles
to help someone to open, release and discover  the true essence/treasure box of
what lies within...that which they have been  desperately trying to keep
protected and hidden.  Many developmental  psychology people, believe that OCD
originates at age 4, during a person's  sexual development.  Session 4 may be a
more vulnerable session for these  individuals and one that requires a deep
level of sensitivity and  permission.  Again, I do agree with the support of the
medical/psychiatric  community if his behavior has crossed the line into a
serious  "disorder" and a "team" approach could be ideal.

My feedback is, have fun and honor the individual as a  "normal"
preadolescent attempting to cope the best that he knows how...in  such "crazy"
times:)
What a wonderful opportunity for a "young man" to  learn how to create a sense
of safety in his own life, by becoming acquainted  with his own body and
learning how to take up space in it, while  maintaining some sense of control
over
how the process unfolds.

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Mark,

I had a client with OCD who was a psychotherapist.
She said the work helped her a great deal, though I
don't remember how much she related it to the OCD.  I
think she said it helped relax and ground her, and she
came back for post-10 work a few times.

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I don't know a lot about OCD in children, but I would
suggest consulting with whoever made the diagnosis. It
might be useful to know if it was a primary care
physician vs. a psychiatrist, what course of therapy
he is recieving and the nature of his particular
circumstances. The most common treatment for OCD in
children is cognitive-behavioral therapy often in
conjunction with the usual SRI meds (which is somewhat
controversial for other reasons). It would seem
receiving the ten series could be a powerful
experience in this kids life, particularly movement
education as mentioned. But since he's also dealing
with a really debilitating anxiety disorder i think a
team approach with everybody on the same page is the
place to start.

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OCD is very different from Asperger's or paranoid schizophrenia.  SI,
IMO, is not appropriate for paranoids - stay with cranial.  The
various forms of autism - Asperger's is one - are fascinating, but
this is, as yet, a grab-bag word into which all kinds of conditions
are thrown, so it is hard to make blanket statements.  With OCD kids,
however, I would recommend finding out what engages his attention and
let him have that focus - a book, computer game, picking his fingers,
whatever - while you are working on him.

I totally agree about psychiatric care if the OCD crosses the line
between 'eccentric' and mental disorder.  But so many kids are being
diagnosed and medicated these days who are merely having an out of
the ordinary reaction to the society into which they are born.  Free
thinking individualists in 1950's Russia were institutionalized  -
are we doing something similar with a new generation of kids who are
simply not temperamentally suited to a speedy, electronicized
consumer culture?

Tom Myers


On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:07 AM, Michael Vilain wrote:

> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >I have a 12 year old boy coming to see me, for the ten series, and
> >he has been diagnosed with OCD, Obsesive Compulsive Disorder. He is
> >a very independent guy. His mom says he "expresses a lot of anxiety
> >in social situations and expresses it by getting impatient and
> >angry." He has received several cranial (upledger) sessions and,
> >his mother says, he loves it.
> >
> >I'm thinking SI will help ground him and, perhaps, help with the
> >anxiety. Any thoughts, comments or experience with OCD clients?
> >
> >With gratitude,
> >Mark
>
> I've had mixed results with a 12-year-old client with Aspberger's
> Syndrome. At some point, he stopped engaging in the work and his
> process stopped. I've also had a client with paranoid schizophrenia
> bail after a single session saying it "triggered something".
>
> There are so many variables here. Is this guy under any sort of
> psychiatric care? On any meds? What does the therapist say about
> this additional input into his system?
>
> At the very least, I'd tread carefully working very lightly, mostly
> in a cranial mode. Movement work might also be a possibility using
> it to develop "resources" for him.
>
> Good luck...
> --
>
> Michael Vilain, Certified Advanced Rolfer
> michael@... http://www.vilain.com
>
> Balance is a state of being;
> Symmetry is an appearance;
> Organization is a state of function, being, and movement;
> Gravity is the opposite of comedy.
>
>

Thomas Myers
318 Clarks Cove Rd
Walpole ME 04573 USA
www.AnatomyTrains.net
kinesis@...





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>Hello everyone,
>
>I have a 12 year old boy coming to see me, for the ten series, and
>he has been diagnosed with OCD, Obsesive Compulsive Disorder.  He is
>a very independent guy.  His mom says he "expresses a lot of anxiety
>in social situations and expresses it by getting impatient and
>angry."  He has received several cranial (upledger) sessions and,
>his mother says, he loves it.
>
>I'm thinking SI will help ground him and, perhaps, help with the
>anxiety.  Any thoughts, comments or experience with OCD clients?
>
>With gratitude,
>Mark

I've had mixed results with a 12-year-old client with Aspberger's
Syndrome.  At some point, he stopped engaging in the work and his
process stopped.  I've also had a client with paranoid schizophrenia
bail after a single session saying it "triggered something".

There are so many variables here.  Is this guy under any sort of
psychiatric care?  On any meds?  What does the therapist say about
this additional input into his system?

At the very least, I'd tread carefully working very lightly, mostly
in a cranial mode.  Movement work might also be a possibility using
it to develop "resources" for him.

Good luck...
--

Michael Vilain, Certified Advanced Rolfer
michael@...  http://www.vilain.com

Balance is a state of being;
Symmetry is an appearance;
Organization is a state of function, being, and movement;
Gravity is the opposite of comedy.

Hello everyone,

I have a 12 year old boy coming to see me, for the ten series, and he has been
diagnosed with OCD, Obsesive Compulsive Disorder.  He is a very independent guy.
His mom says he "expresses a lot of anxiety in social situations and expresses
it by getting impatient and angry."  He has received several cranial (upledger)
sessions and, his mother says, he loves it.

I'm thinking SI will help ground him and, perhaps, help with the anxiety.  Any
thoughts, comments or experience with OCD clients?

With gratitude,
Mark

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Greetings!

I just wanted to let everyone know that there are still a few spots
available in the Crestone, CO 4-handed workshop in August.  David Davis and
Nilce Silvera will be the instructors, and all participants will receive at
least one session of 4-handed work from them.  The focus of the 4-handed
work is to better understand layers, and how to take the understanding of
the 4-handed work back into your personal practice.
August is a great time to visit Crestone.  Hope to see you at the workshop!
Peace-
Buddy Frank



Four-Handed Work in Post-10 Structural Integration with David Davis and
Nilce Silvera
The workshop will be a 6-day exploration of 4-handed work and how to bring
the 4-handed awareness back to your SI practice.

The workshop will take place in Crestone, CO  from August 12-18.

Students will exchange a series of 3 post-10 sessions - one of these three
sessions will be done by David and Nilce together, on each student. The
students will exchange the other 2 sessions with each other. Students will
also work 4 handed with a model, doing a 3-series.  We will spend time
discussing their questions, concerns, experiences and comprehension of the
SI work.

Class runs daily 8/12-14 and 8/16-18, from 10am-1pm and 3pm-6pm.  There will
be a day off on 8/15.
The location is the Crestone Healing Arts Center, 1689 Columbine Overlook,
Crestone, CO 81131.

Course tuition: $800 - a deposit of $200 will reserve your space in the
workshop.  (payable to Crestone Center for Structural Integration / PO Box
787 / Crestone, CO 81131)  Refund policy: 100% refund until 6/1, 50% refund
until 7/1,  25% refund until 8/12.

Please contact Buddy Frank for registration <bfrank@...> or
719-221-1151. Check out <http://www.theiasi.org/course_cal4.php#Calendar>
for more info.

About Crestone:
Crestone, Colorado is located in south-central Colorado, in the northern
part of the San Luis Valley, about 2 hours north of Taos, New Mexico.  It is
nestled in the western foothills of the Sangre de Christo mountain range and
adjacent to the Great Sand Dunes National Park.  Nine different mountains
over 14,000 feet above sea level (commonly known as ³14¹ers²) loom over
Crestone, providing a majestic setting.  The silence and solitude of the
area have attracted many different spiritual groups, and spiritual centers
of all types are common in Crestone.
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So that is where Rothbart went.  He was developing his orthotics here in
western Washington And I worked for one of the chiropractors that consulted
with him.
I became the expert in fabricating temporary insoles for our practice.   can
be very inexpensive using standard insoles and self adhesive felt from
medical supply.
It take some study and experience how a first meta tarsal shorter than the
second leads to tarsal displacement and or arch adaptation. High arch or
arch collapse.
My experience is that with consistent orthotic use and bodywork the
structures become stable enough that taking the shoes off for short periods
will not undo the progress but if there is a true first meta tarsal deficit
support under the meta tarsal phalange joint needs to be maintained 80-90%
of the time spent on feet.

--
Hans Albert Quistorff, LMP
Antalgic Posture Pain Specialist


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Go to _www.stepforward.com_ (http://www.stepforward.com)  and find  a
practitioner near you that can fit you.............

They have a book that looks like it was written by a member of the  IASI.
But it wasn't.

My index just went down to 13 this month.

Progress........practice makes progress...not necessarily  perfection!!

Jim

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With love to share with all...
It's happening  already....
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> I have been wearing, occasionally, and  providing, occasionally, to my
> clients Step Forward Orthotics.  These are  of the "Alzner Design"
......
......
> My golf game
> seems to improve when I wear the orthotics.

Jim,

Right now anything that saves a stroke is important to me.

Where and how do I get these orthotics,  Never heard of them before.

Joe

I have been wearing, occasionally, and  providing, occasionally, to my
clients Step Forward Orthotics.  These are  of the "Alzner Design" and the
postural
changes are immediate and obvious.   They also hurt.  The Series, to me, is a
must if any long term postural  changes are expected.  The effects of gravity
on our bodies always starts  with the feet....Regina Buckwalter taught this in
my first Hellerwork Training  and it still follows in my work.  My golf game
seems to improve when I wear  the orthotics.

Jim

May you be  perfectly you and happy,
With love to share with all...
It's happening  already....
Thank you.




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Don't know much about these insoles, but does anyone have an opinion on the NMT
shoes?

rolfbodyworks <rolfbodyworks@...> wrote:          This spring, I was invited
to do a training in Boston, utilizing proprioceptive insoles to help
correct postural difficulties. The company, Vabena, is out of Europe, and
apparently this
technology has been used there for about 10 years. Researching the insoles led
me to
being introduced to Dr. Brian Rothbart, a podiatic surgeon, with a practice in
Rome, Italy.
He has a similar approach using a different model insole.
http://www.rothbartsfoot.info/
index.html. Please note: I am aware of the difficulties presented with
biomechanical
insoles, proprioceptive insoles are different in that they affect the nervous
system by
stimualting certain portions of the sole of the foot. I'm curious if anyone has
any
experience with either of these two approaches in combination with their own
session
work. The results of the applied insole are quite amazing. I've seen in others
and felt in
my own body, re-alignment of the pelvis, shoulder girdles balanced, trigger
points
(measuring a 9- 10 on a scale of 1-10) simply disappear in a matter of moments
with the
insoles worn. Take them off, have the client shake their body a bit and
everything returns
to the way it was.
So, my curiosity lies in combining the insoles with SI work. I would think that
if only the
insoles were worn (with no bodywork) that the structure would eventually shift
around the
changes created by the insoles. But, will it hold? I would think that
accompanying
bodywork would help assist more lasting change. Perhaps the European Rolfers
have had
more exposure to this new modality. Anyway, I am interested in hearing anyone's
thoughts on this.

Rob Martin, LMT
www.rolfbodyworks.org







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www.manualtherapysolutions.com
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This spring, I was invited to do a training in Boston, utilizing proprioceptive
insoles to help
correct postural difficulties.  The company, Vabena, is out of Europe, and
apparently this
technology has been used there for about 10 years.  Researching the insoles led
me to
being introduced to Dr. Brian Rothbart, a podiatic surgeon, with a practice in
Rome, Italy.
He has a similar approach using a different model insole.
http://www.rothbartsfoot.info/
index.html. Please note: I am aware of the difficulties presented with
biomechanical
insoles, proprioceptive insoles are different in that they affect the nervous
system by
stimualting certain portions of the sole of the foot.  I'm curious if anyone has
any
experience with either of these two approaches in combination with their own
session
work.  The results of the applied insole are quite amazing.  I've seen in others
and felt in
my own body, re-alignment of the pelvis, shoulder girdles balanced, trigger
points
(measuring a 9- 10 on a scale of 1-10) simply disappear in a matter of moments
with the
insoles worn.  Take them off, have the client shake their body a bit and
everything returns
to the way it was.
So, my curiosity lies in combining the insoles with SI work.  I would think that
if only the
insoles were worn (with no bodywork) that the structure would eventually shift
around the
changes created by the insoles.  But, will it hold?  I would think that
accompanying
bodywork would help assist more lasting change.  Perhaps the European Rolfers
have had
more exposure to this new modality.  Anyway, I am interested in hearing anyone's
thoughts on this.

Rob Martin, LMT
www.rolfbodyworks.org

People often ask if there is a hidden cost to this method, and I
usually answer, "You'll want new shoes before we're done".

New trousers is more common than new shirts, but it is indeed the
kind of thing that gets around town very quickly.

Tom M


On Jul 10, 2007, at 3:45 AM, Hans Quistorff wrote:

> I see to sisters Monday afternoon but one is out of town so the
> host sister
> invited a friend to take her place. Slim 30s lady with slight
> rounding of
> shoulders and forward head. I did her first and gave her my initial
> spinal reset and cervical thoracic junction. When I brought her up
> off the
> table there was a mirror in front of her and she could see the
> change in her
> shoulders and neck. She walked around and looked in another mirror and
> remarked that there was no pain. Usually her massage practitioner
> makes her
> feel better and able to cope with the pain but now there was no
> pain. She
> sat cross legged on the couch reading while I worked on the host;
> remarking
> several times how comfortable she was and no pain. As I approached
> the end
> of the session she started to put on the blouse she had removed
> before I
> arrived. But she could not button it up; with the retraction of her
> shoulders and expansion of her upper ribs she could not button
> across he
> bust. I did not take before and after pictures but I think this
> story will
> get around faster than pictures.
>
> --
> Hans Albert Quistorff, LMP
> Antalgic Posture Pain Specialist
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

Thomas Myers
318 Clarks Cove Rd
Walpole ME 04573 USA
www.AnatomyTrains.net
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I see to sisters Monday afternoon but one is out of town so the host sister
invited a friend to take her place.  Slim 30s lady with slight rounding of
shoulders and forward head.    I did her first and gave her my initial
spinal reset and cervical thoracic junction.  When I brought her up off the
table there was a mirror in front of her and she could see the change in her
shoulders and neck.  She walked around and looked in another mirror and
remarked that there was no pain.  Usually her massage practitioner makes her
feel better and able to cope with the pain but now there was no pain.  She
sat cross legged on the couch reading while I worked on the host; remarking
several times how comfortable she was and no pain.   As I approached the end
of the session she started to put on the blouse she had removed before I
arrived.  But she could not button it up; with the retraction of her
shoulders and expansion of her upper ribs she could not button across he
bust.  I did not take before and after pictures but I think this story will
get around faster than pictures.

--
Hans Albert Quistorff, LMP
Antalgic Posture Pain Specialist


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Hello fellow practitioners,
      My name is Jon Stange and I live in Los Angeles, Ca. I am currently
on break after my audting at The Guild for Structural Integration in
Boulder, Co. I have been practicing deep tissue massage for almost 12
years and have had an introductory 100 hour course in structural
bodywork from Garnet Dupuis at MSSM, Ca. I would like to offer anyone
in the SI community some work in exchange for feedback, ideas or
ask to observe sessions with clients. I will be practitioning in Oct.
and would love the opportunity for some insight and to meet others in
the area. Thanks for your support. Jon.

Hello Carol

I know that Bradley Cornwell In North Vancouver has worked with a few people
with this condition and although it has not ³fixed² it has helped relieve
some of the tension that they feel in the skin and fascia.

All the best

Lora Lewis


On 6/27/07 5:44 PM, "Carol" <carol@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> How much can the 10 series help this condition?
>
>
>




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In support of Tom's answer, I remember Emmett Hutchins talking about
this, and he said to work the tissue towards the midline, not away
from it when there is that type of abdominal hernia.

--- In Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Myers
<kinesis@...> wrote:
>
> the usual saw gets an extra red flag: do not work strongly away
from
> the midline
>
>
> On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:08 AM, barbaraatkins206@... wrote:
>
> > with a hernia like this.. would you do abdominal work any
differently?
> > (session 5)
> >
> > **************************************
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> >
> >
> >
>
> Thomas Myers
> 318 Clarks Cove Rd
> Walpole ME 04573 USA
> www.AnatomyTrains.net
> kinesis@...
>
>
>
>
>
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the usual saw gets an extra red flag: do not work strongly away from
the midline


On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:08 AM, barbaraatkins206@... wrote:

> with a hernia like this.. would you do abdominal work any differently?
> (session 5)
>
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>
>
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318 Clarks Cove Rd
Walpole ME 04573 USA
www.AnatomyTrains.net
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Carol,

My dear sweet Aunt Orpha fell and broke her hip and femur at age 98.   The
doctors admitted to mis-measuring the replacement femur head which  resulted in
her needing a knee replacement.  At age 99 the  doctors and her insurance plan
tell her she is "too old" for a knee  replacement.  Aunt Orpha sent seven
letters to the Doctors, Hospital  Administrators and Insurance people telling
them that prior to all this she was  healthy and happy.  If they did not replace
her knee she would commit  suicide and it would be their fault.  At age 99 she
got a new knee and  lived happily until age 102.  There are more stories
about her.

The point being that this kind of hernia, I believe, is only fixed with
surgery.  They put a screen in and stitch it together.  I would  suggest that
you
empower this man to really get in touch with his body and his  self worth and
fight a bit.......the rest of the series would probably be  beneficial just by
interacting with you.....

Dr. Jim

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Carol -

As I turn 58 this month, I object to the 'old age' characterization.
Just because my hair turned snow white and someone shoveled it off
doesn't mean...

In my world, there is little that can be done manipulatively for a
diastasis of the linea alba.  The weakness could have been genetic,
or exacerbated by some incident, but once done, sewing it back
together is what works, is not invasive, but I don't even bother with
it unless I can get three fingertips into the opening.  Happens
sometimes during pregnancy or post-partum.

I suppose if you could reduce intra-abdominal pressure via visceral
or lengthening the low back, it might help, but the main thing would
be that he stop doing his crunches with the obliques, all of which
pull away from the midline, and focus on doing them with his rectus,
which neither squeezes nor pulls apart the linea alba, as the fibers
run parallel.  The transversus can help or exacerbate the problem,
depending on how he contracts it during the crunch, but that is very
hard to read without an ultrasound machine.

If you can't cue him into this, either PT (physical therapist or
personal trainer) might be able to help him isolate the rectus.

I'll be interested if other people do have manipulative solutions to
this common problem.

Tom Myers


On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Carol wrote:

> Hello everyone
>
> A client today asked me about whether I could help her 57 year old
> husband. The orthoped has told him that on one side only of his rectus
> abdominus the fascia has separated. When he does a crunch, the abdomen
> bulges up like a hernia would. Orthoped says it is "old age". No
> surgery necessary. In thinking about what might be happening, I
> thought perhaps the fascia has adhered to an adjacent structure
> thereby
> pulling away from the rectus. Any thoughts on ways to approach this
> problem? I have some visceral manipulation training so if he comes to
> see me, I would explore visceral restrictions...
>
>
>
>

Thomas Myers
318 Clarks Cove Rd
Walpole ME 04573 USA
www.AnatomyTrains.net
kinesis@...





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Hello everyone

A client today asked me about whether I could help her 57 year old
husband.  The orthoped has told him that on one side only of his rectus
abdominus the fascia has separated.  When he does a crunch, the abdomen
bulges up like a hernia would.  Orthoped says it is "old age".  No
surgery necessary.  In thinking about what might be happening, I
thought perhaps the fascia has adhered to an adjacent structure thereby
pulling away from the rectus.  Any thoughts on ways to approach this
problem?  I have some visceral manipulation training so if he comes to
see me, I would explore visceral restrictions...

Jason,

Before entertaining the idea of prolo, I think it would be a good idea to do
a thorough assessment of WHY the sacrotuberous ligament is lax.  A lax ST
ligament is very often indicative of an upslip or other asymmetric lesion
involving that side.

Allan

Allan Kaplan, Certified Advanced Rolfer®
Visceral Manipulation
Cranial Manipulation
Seattle, WA  206-729-6314



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Hello,



I have a client whom I've done the series plus several post-10 sessions. My
hunch is (I haven't done a real sacrotuberous ligament test yet) is one or
both ST ligaments are too lax. If this is the case, what to do more with
structural work? I am aware of prolotherapy as a possible option, but am I
missing something to balance in her structure? Overall she is doing much
better, her ROM body-wide has really improved and her pain is mostly gone.
She is still left with left gluteal pain and what still remains there (after
much work) is the remnants of the "birds nest" that feels like some of her
Deep 6 hip rotators either were torn at some point or just still in a state
of spasm. Her pain is moderately increased with deep forward bends. My sense
is that if her ST ligament(s) are too lax that some of these gluteal muscles
are trying to provide support where the ligament isn't doing enough.



Jason



Jason Rumohr, CHP LMP

Hellerwork Structural Integration

1904 3rd Avenue, Suite 246  ::  Seattle, WA 98101

(206) 941-8811  ::  jason@...

www.jasonrumohr.com

www.jasonrumohr.blogspot.com







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I have not attended any of the SI schools but I work from the same
philosophy so I monitor this group.  My experience with a scleoderma client
was that after addressing her structural problems her scleroderma went into
remission. and with hard work in her garden regained most of her
flexibility.  Sadly she was re injured by her abusive husband [alcohol] just
before she returned to Thailand and her latest pictures sent to my wife show
her face and hands are hardening again.

--
Hans Albert Quistorff, LMP
Antalgic Posture Pain Specialist


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Hi Carol,

From my understanding, SI is contraindicated with Scleroderma.

Govinda

--- In Structural_Integration@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <carol@...> wrote:
>
> How much can the 10 series help this condition?
>