Hey Louis:

It is NOT in our field of expertise, range of professional training or
even our current job description to council on nutrition or health
issues such as real or imagined vitamin issues or parasites. If these
kinds of questions come up, refer to the relevant trained professional
specialist.

How do you know about nutritional or health issue status. Do you
Diagnose?
> Are you a trained pathologist, parasitologist or nutritionist? Is it
> ethical to 'educate', counsel or guide individuals (who come to you as
> an SI practitioner for SI 'treatments') about areas outside your area
> of trained expertise. Would you go to an orthodontist and expect to
> get told you need psychotherapy or bates vision training or
> acupuncture? And believe it? And not potentially get sued for breach
> of professional contract?

Ida Rolf took pains to keep her practitioners from being sued for
practicing medicine (or any other field) without a license. I suggest
we all need to do the same.

Richard Wheeler
trained in 9171 with IPR



On Aug 3, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Louis Gross wrote:

> Hi
>
> In case the Structural Integration alone, or with whatever else he is
> doing, is not fully enough, here are some other resources.
>
> This spasmodic condition could also have a nutritional component, as
> muscles and nerves, of course, need a lot of nutrition such as
> calcium, magnesium and B-vitamins especially, and even Vitamin A or
> beta carotene helps all tissue quality - as does C-complex and even
> Vit E. This is something I look at in a basic improvement kind of
> way, just as removing all the bunch up in the fascia system is a
> basic improvement. Most people I have met are low on calcium and
> magnesium, from raw food sources, even many of those who take liquid,
> pill or powdered minerals.
>
> I have always found, for a number of years now, (and maybe you have,
> too) that people with chronic tightness had a big nutritional
> shortage of the minerals especially. And having pain drains even
> more of it out. When I have people do a lot of carrot and green
> leafy vegetable juices, preferably organically grown, and a lot of
> kelp seaweed, the pain and tightness diminish, and the tissues also
> get softer and easier to manipulate with hands on and they also go
> much further, easier, with stretching. My first Hellerworker said
> that when he worked on a man who'd been doing a multi-day juice fase,
> his tissue was so easy to spread.
>
> For his information. Collards & kale are high in calcium, dandelion
> and beet greens are the highest in magesium, and chard, parsley,
> spinach and others are helpful as well. If the person can do 1-1/2
> pints to 2 quarts of fresh juice a day the change in one week is very
> significant.
>
> My educated guess is that when he starts to talk, there is an
> increased requirement for the nutrition, and doing the Structural
> Integration should also be removing some of the emotional material
> that could have been contributing to why it happens in his vocal area
> versus someplace else. (Like, some people were choked in infancy or
> had falls that hurt the neck area, or their genetic disposition
> requires more of the nutrition to bring them up to normal in that
> area, versus you or I.)
>
> As other information: Netherton Therapy is a method to add to any
> Reichian methods that improves the ease and thoroughness of removing
> contracting emotional energies in the body as well. This adds to the
> release of the Bodywork and it is more effective after Structural
> Integration processing, too. Postural Integration is an approach
> that synthesizes Structural Integration with Reichian therapy and
> Chinese Medicine Five-Element Acupressure.
>
> There is also information about small parasites - little roundworms
> even - in specific areas of the body causing unique location
> problems. The Hulda Clark Yahoo Email Group and The Hulda Clark
> Information Websiote are places to find information and methods of
> approach for this element.
>
> Best,
> Lou Gross
> Structural Integrator since 1982
>
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>> 1. Spasmodic Dysphonia
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>> 2. Re: Spasmodic Dysphonia
>> From: Michael Vilain <vilain@...>
>> 3. Re: Digest Number 288
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: susan stone <susanstone@...>
>> Subject: Spasmodic Dysphonia
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>> I recently saw a client with Spasmotic Dysphonia. Does anyone have
>> any experience or suggestions about working with him.
>>
>> I've copied definitions below.
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>> Spasmodic dysphonia, a focal form of dystonia, involves involuntary
>> "spasms" of the vocal cords causing interruptions of speech and
>> affecting the voice quality.
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>> Doctors recognize two types of spasmodic dysphonia. In the more
>> common adductor type, speaking causes abnormal involuntary
>> excessive contraction of the muscles that bring the vocal cords
>> together. This causes a tight voice quality, often with abrupt
>> initiation and termination of voicing resulting in a broken speech
>> pattern and short breaks in speech.
>> In the abductor type, there is an overcontraction of the muscles
>> that separate the vocal cords, resulting in a breathy, whispering
>> voice pattern.
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>> Certified Advanced Rolfer
>> Biodynamic Cranial Therapist
>> Jenkintown, Pa. 19046
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:40:00 -0700
>> From: Michael Vilain <vilain@...>
>> Subject: Re: Spasmodic Dysphonia
>>
>>> I recently saw a client with Spasmotic Dysphonia. Does anyone
>> have
>>> any experience or suggestions about working with him.
>>>
>>> I've copied definitions below.
>>>
>>> Spasmodic dysphonia, a focal form of dystonia, involves
>> involuntary
>>> "spasms" of the vocal cords causing interruptions of speech and
>>> affecting the voice quality.
>>> Doctors recognize two types of spasmodic dysphonia. In the more
>>> common adductor type, speaking causes abnormal involuntary
>> excessive
>>> contraction of the muscles that bring the vocal cords together.
>> This
>>> causes a tight voice quality, often with abrupt initiation and
>>> termination of voicing resulting in a broken speech pattern and
>>> short breaks in speech.
>>> In the abductor type, there is an overcontraction of the muscles
>>> that separate the vocal cords, resulting in a breathy, whispering
>>> voice pattern.
>>>
>>> Susan Stone
>>> Certified Advanced Rolfer
>>> Biodynamic Cranial Therapist
>>> Jenkintown, Pa. 19046
>>
>> I have a client who sings that was diagnosed with this. He ended
>> up
>> in my office when a speech therapist who's also a singer told him
>> there was a lot of tension in his upper torso and that he should
>> get
>> 'Rolfed'. After our first session, I concur. On a muscle tonus
>> scale of 1-10 (1=low), he's definitely a 10 or maybe even a 12.
>> What's your client's general tonus like?
>>
>> If this is like "focal dystonia", there might be a neurological
>> component. His tissue reminded me of fibromyalgia. Halfway
>> through
>> the session, I stopped "cranking" on his tissue and started
>> "meeting"
>> it instead--more unwinding and less stimulation to his nervous
>> system. I'll probably take more than 10 sessions with him and add
>> some cranial to start rehab on his autonomic nervious system.
>>
>> I also did some 7th hour differentiation on the neck compartment.
>> We'll see if that did much this early on in his series. A goal for
>>
>> him would be to reduce the overall tonus of his system.
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 23:02:03 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Archie Underwood <archie@...>
>> Subject: Re: Digest Number 288
>>
>>> Just wanted to check whether you had seen Ray Bishop's article in
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>>> Massage & Bodywork Magazine on Structural Integration as a form
>> of
>>> meditation.
>>
>> Wonderful. I fully broke into tears, which was a little
>> disconcerting considering there was a
>> telephone tech at my house working on my line at the time. I feel
>> like Ray touched on something
>> deeply personal that I carry into my work. Something that I rarely
>> share with others, but is
>> really the core of this work to me in many ways. The info was
>> dynamite, the photos where a little
>> confusing though. I guess it was stock massage photos or something,
>> I kept on noticing that her
>> fingers were hyperextended. I heard myself saying, "You know you'll
>> ruin your tools that way". Haha..
>>
>> Archie Underwood, HHP
>> Structural Integration
>> 619.861.3232
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