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Re: [Structural_Integration] Looking for new PT-like therapies

Thanks, all, for the feedback, I have sent along your replies to my
client (who is forwarding for a friend) and offered to give Jeff
Burch's info if desired. I wasn't specifically being asked to help,
just to answer whether this work would be appropriate. We shall see!

Bevin Keely, LMP
Rolf Method of Structural Integration
www.bevinkeely.com
206.343.9653

On Jun 22, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Thomas Myers wrote:

> Dear Rob
>
> I agree with Michael, and would just add:
>
> The cavus foot and chronic tightness along the lines in the leg can
> often have visceral connections, specifically with blood flow to the
> affected leg. So in addition to Don Hazen's work with adverse neural
> tension, I would additionally have someone like Jeff Burch or Liz
> Gaggini - well-versed in visceral manipulation - have a look at your
> boy - especially since you say you can get changes with manual therapy
> (as in Russia) but that they don't sustain.
>
> Also, don't forget 'compound essence of time' - some of these
> limitations may disappear as your boy gets in contact with other kids
> at elementary school - nothing like competition to bring out the best
> in young boys!
>
> Good luck
> Tom Myers
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2009, at 3:35 AM, Michael Vilain wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> There are several issues going on here. One is "can what we do help
>> him?" and another is the cost.
>>
>> Since he's been going to PT for so long, I'm wondering what they've
>> done for him. Usually traditional PT focuses on evaluation,
>> strengthening and movement, but not as much hands-on. Has anyone
>> looked at birth trauma or neurological issues here (e.g. cerebral
>> palsy, torticollis, or something else)? There's a Rolfer and
>> Chiropractor here in Oakland California that has a theory about long-
>> term shortness in various areas might be due to nerves being
>> "tethered" in the myofascia (Don Hazen's Neurology of Posture). I've
>> had great success working on such things from this perspective but
>> your perspective client is very young for this. Craniosacral might
>> also be helpful in the short term. Mostly, I've had little luck
>> using Rolfing for this sort of client, but if the client can travel
>> to Russia, what's a trip to Oakland?
>>
>> The cost is also an issue. Most SI isn't covered by insurance and so
>> would have to be out of pocket. That's a consideration that may
>> limit how much SI is explored for this little guy.
>> --
>> Michael Vilain, Certified Advanced Rolfer
>> michael@... http://www.vilain.com
>>
>> Gravity is the opposite of comedy.
>> It's deja vu all over again--Yogi Berra
>> In theory, theory and practice are the same.
>> In practice, they are not.--Yogi Berra
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Bevin Keely wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Bevin Keely, LMP
>>> Rolf Method of Structural Integration
>>> www.bevinkeely.com
>>> 206.343.9653
>>> Hello, all. A client forwarded this email to me, wonder what you all
>>> have to offer? Any experience with situations like this? Best, Bevin
>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>> From:
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:45 PM
>>>> To: MS Parents with special (needs) children; Autism Info Exchange
>>>> Subject: Looking for new PT-like therapies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> My son is nearly 6 and in addition to some developmental delays
>>>> we’ve been working through he’s suffering from very tight
>> hamstrings
>>>> and also a “cavus” foot which is also very inflexible. Both of
>>>> these issues are worsening over time. He’s been in PT for nearly 3
>>>> years at this point (2x per week) and they’ve been trying to do
>>>> stretches with him all along to limited effect. He’s capable of
>>>> walking/running/and very limited jumping but he has difficulty with
>>>> his coordination, and in cases such as swimming it becomes obvious
>>>> that his bilateral capabilities are suffering from his issues as
>>>> well as obvious problems dye . We’ve tried some traditional massage
>>>> and there seems to be some benefit but it disappears pretty quickly
>>>> if we stop plus with no insurance support for this it gets
>> expensive
>>>> over long periods of time. My wife has been to Russia with my son a
>>>> couple of times and they have done basically a deep tissue massage
>>>> on him and while it’s painful for him we’ve seen pretty decent
>>>> responses but once again the effect is short lived and obviously
>> the
>>>> trip is pretty long to do this. It seems the ideal therapy would be
>>>> a combination of techniques for a lasting effect. For instance does
>>>> anyone have any experience with the various therapies
>>>> here:www.therapies4kids.com
>>>> ? Or with Rolfing or anything else that may be of help with these
>>>> sort of issues? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Rob
>>>>
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Bevin Keely, LMP Rolf Method of Structural Integration www.bevinkeely.com 206.343.9653 Hello, all. A client forwarded this email to me, wonder what you all ...
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There are several issues going on here. One is "can what we do help him?" and another is the cost. Since he's been going to PT for so long, I'm wondering what...
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Dear Rob I agree with Michael, and would just add: The cavus foot and chronic tightness along the lines in the leg can often have visceral connections,...
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Thanks, all, for the feedback, I have sent along your replies to my client (who is forwarding for a friend) and offered to give Jeff Burch's info if desired. I...
Bevin Keely
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Bevin, It doesn¹t sound like you¹ve tried any work with the boy and the outcome; my first thought would be to draw on your own resources. Subsequent to...
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Has anyone done a first session? That would tell a lot. Ritchie...
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Do you know anything about developmental movement therapy? My son saw a practitioner in Seattle. Naturally, I can't remember her name, but there is a ton of...
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Bevin, I think my post was poorly worded. Your client may find development movement therapy helpful. There may be some movement patterns that can help the...
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I have seen some remarkable results with cranial adjustments done via a trained Osteopath or Chiropractor. Upledger does not get into the children as well...
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Thanks, everyone, for all of the great insight. I have forwarded all pertinent information to my client, who I assume is forwarding to her friend. Hopefully...
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