Hi Halie,

Allow me to add some of my observations from my experience. Might
help.

Regarding the walking - the effort in forceful moving - perhaps his
thighs, abdominals and rest of torso muscles - fascia is still short
- and he is not walking with the full movement coming even up through
his chest - inside the chest - where it feels the legs are starting.
And he feels more upright and light. The back muscle tightness can
show this tension still there of course, as can the anterior pelvic
tilt and a line of deep adductor up thru abdominal and chest
shortness. Even the head and neck deep fascial shortness I have seen
holds the lower back tight.

An easier range of thigh and leg movement - of all the hip, knee and
ankle-foot joints enables people to walk with biggger steps but not
as tensely.

Removing a lot of this upper tension seems to calm people down
somewhat as the behavior settles into the core versus acting - or
living one's personality - from tight extrinsics, even extrinsics a
few inches deep into the body.

I would think doing more of what is obviously your effective work
would show itself in his being easier to get into the good or
preferred feeling of the nicer and less "tensioning" neuro-muscular
way of walking.

Illiacus is a kind of hidden factor, too. The times I have been able
to spend a lot of time there, complete with side to side stretching
to open up under the illiac crest, and then being able to do more
hands-on deeper, have helped people's thighs release. And like the
sequence of doing it in step 8 after deep work in the core of steps
4-7, this releasing is more likely to work this way at that time.

I find that I can then do more deeper lengthening of going more
inside the lower leg with deeper thigh release as well, andof course,
that makes the walking lighter and easier for people.

Lou Gross


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> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:41:57 -0000
> From: hdrs2001
> Subject: Re: Leg Pain
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> > D) Some gait training may be in order. Perhaps he locks his
> knees as he
> > walks and comes down hard on his heel in his stride. A video or
> observation
> > may help. Practicing walking with the knees bent, like a
> sterotypical old third
> > world person who looks like they are shuffling but they are not,
> they are
> > merely walking with knees and hips soft and providing the spring
> action to
> > absorb body weight without the straight leg jolt to the
> joints......this kind of gait
> > training..........
> >
> > Let us know what you discover.....
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> As requested, I am letting you know what I discovered, and
> requesting more information.
>
> After suggesting that he walk 'softer', he has returned for a next
> session very (my word)
> happy with the improvement. Not perfect, discomfort still there,
> but a marked
> improvement.
>
> He seems to feel that the long term answer is in walking
> differently.
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> He states clearly there is an improvement from walking 'softer', he
> said in the house if he
> is without shoes he also makes an effort to land more flat footed.
>
> The phrase with 'softer joints' he used many times. He gives the
> impression that is very
> beneficial.
>
> He also states that he must walk slowly if he walks faster he can
> feel the heel striking
> harder and shocks going up the legs. It is definitely more
> noticeable without shoes.
>
> He is the sort of fellow who when he walks wants to get where he is
> going.
>
> I am sure his natural impatients is part of why he walks in a
> compromising manner, still he
> is motivated to change.
>
> Therefore he (and now me) suspects 'gait training' to have the
> largest part of the solution.
>
> His words,
>
> "I really don't understand 'like a stereotypical old third world
> person who looks like they
> are shuffling', means, are there other images you can give."
>
>
> He very much would like to start jogging again, and if failing that
> at least not have leg
> pains from just walking.
>
>
> More thoughts, more imiages, more suggestions if you have them
> please.
>
> I suspect if we can get the right picture in his mind it would be
> good.
>
>
> Halie
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