When I say no, nothing gets done.  If I need help with something and
ask for help it might get done a year later.  No exageration.  I asked
my husband to clean out his office it was such a pig sty.  A year later
he cleaned half of it up.
We are expecting company this week end- his friends of course.  I
mopped the kitchen floor a few days ago cause I can't clean the whole
house in one evening but it takes days.  I asked him to make sure he
did not track in anything.  He tracked in everything and said oops
sorry.  So no means nothing at our house.  I do it or it just does not
get done.  Sometimes No is never an option. We just get to suffer and
find blessed relief a half hour after we get in bed.  I say that
because my body(mostly hips) has to relax enough from the pain to
finally go to sleep.

It's even harder to say "NO" to yourself.

On 7/1/05, spenser23as <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Kathryn, I think it's more that we find what we need when we need it ...
> Which is what you did.
>
> Learning that its okay to say no sometimes ... That's a tough one
> indeed.
>
> Spenser23as
>
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Kathryn, I think it's more that we find what we need when we need it ...
Which is what you did.

Learning that its okay to say no sometimes ... That's a tough one
indeed.

Spenser23as

Well, there it is!  Funny how I never seem to find the things that are
right where they're supposed to be :)

Saying "no" was the other thing I was thinking about.  Just because
someone asks me to do something or asks me to go somewhere doesn't
mean I have to.  "No" isn't always a bad thing-sometimes it's
necessary, not just to keep from doing too much physically, but also
for keeping one's sanity!

-Kathryn


--- In Spondyville@yahoogroups.com, spenser23as <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Yes, it's a great analogy.  Someone turned me onto this website a
> couple years ago, I think.  I believe there is a link to the site on
> our links section.
>
> And you really are right on target with your thoughts about being
> gentler on ourselves.  Sometimes we have to cut ourselves some
slack.
> There is a difference between the denial of having a disease and
denial
> that the disease affects you. Accepting that a disease affects you
and
> you need to make certain accomodations does not mean you have given
in
> to the disease, it means you have learned how to fight it more
> effectively.
>
> Spenser23as

Yes, it's a great analogy.  Someone turned me onto this website a
couple years ago, I think.  I believe there is a link to the site on
our links section.

And you really are right on target with your thoughts about being
gentler on ourselves.  Sometimes we have to cut ourselves some slack.
There is a difference between the denial of having a disease and denial
that the disease affects you. Accepting that a disease affects you and
you need to make certain accomodations does not mean you have given in
to the disease, it means you have learned how to fight it more
effectively.

Spenser23as

Has anyone heard of this before?

http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/spoons.htm

I'm just sitting here right now blown away by this.  I think it's a
really great analogy.

I was actually thinking about needing to post about the importance of
being gentle with ourselves, striking words like "lazy" from our
vocabularies.  I've overdone it with cross-stitching in the last few
weeks out of a need to feel "productive" during the summer since I
don't have work or school and now I'm suffering for it!  I've pulled
out the kitchen timer to make SURE I take more frequent breaks...real
breaks, 10-minute ones, not the fake ones I usually take where I look
around for a minute and then go right back to what I was doing.

Anyway, just wanted to share my rambles with you :)

-Kathryn

Well, there IS a KFC less than two blocks from my NYC apt ... LOL.
Laura's right though, I don't know that my apt could hold more than 150
people at most. (Stacked vertically, that is ... LOL)

In 2000, a bunch of us met in Philadelphia in conjunction to the SAA
seminar and ACR convention. Any similar events happening any time soon?

P.S. Great news Denise. And I agree that AS is a lot more prevalent
than most people think.


Spenser23as

Denise...

YES... I can.. only need to know when...Lets see... You are in
Richmond...That is 2 hrs from me... Cynthia is in Blacksburg... that is 2 hrs 
west of
me...lol..I am in the middle..

When you go up in the mountains...you ever gone up to Peaks of Otter?
I've been by many times.. never walked  all over it.. They have a  wonderful
seafood buffet up there on Friday nights... I forget how much it  cost.. sort
of expensive if I remember right..The parkway is a beautiful  drive... I've
been up there on a friday evening before... rushed up after  work..found a good
look our area looking west...and sat and watched the sun go  down...
Beautiful...


betty


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Would love to meet sometime in Virginia, there must be a place we
can meet to have a bite to eat and chat!

Richmond, Lynchburg, Blacksburg - How cool is that. I have never
actually met any in person that has AS.

As to bowling, I tried that last year and with all the fusion I
have, there is no bending for me to be able to get the ball down the
alley without pitching it.

On a good note, I saw a new Primary Care dr. and he made hte this
statement to me - "I think that AS is more previlent that many
think" - I thought I would kiss him. He is very interested in my
medical history. I hope it just keeps up. He even gave me something
for pain for the just in case time when the Remicade wears off.

After he reviews my records he will recommend a new rhuemy. I can
hardly wait!

So hope everyone has a great holiday weekend, as for me I will be
out and about up in the Shenendoah Mountains for three days! Can't
wait!

Betty and Cynthia, let me know if we really can get together soon!

Denise
Richmond, VA

In a message dated 6/29/2005 5:32:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rday@... writes:

Yes,  Serge my family does, own a bowling center


WOW...Cool... My son works for the local bowling center here... Just got
some sort or promotion..  supposed to end up going to classes this fall for
it..then the pay raise comes.. lol.. something to do with Training Manager.. ..
First job he's had that didn't involve Pizza. LOL  but hey.. he  loves  his
job.. and he's worked steady for some time now...  HEY.. those kids do  all
eventually grow up.. just takes some longer... and with several children...  it
was
about time..LOl..


I can't bowl anymore..I used to love to.. won't that good.. but it was  fun...

betty




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Yes, Serge my family does, own a bowling center (that's the proper term these
days-lol).
My Dad & Grandfather started the business back in 1948. My Dad was diagnosed
with AS
in 1952 & in 1977 I got the wonderful news that I would get to follow in his
footsteps.
Everyday I get to look more & more like he did--even the same weight
issues--lol.
AND, I still bowl--at least until I broke my T-1 vertabre this winter, but I
intend to be back
for the next season.  I have to defend my 203 average on my team.
Laura, I'm up to 102 miles on my bike this month--I should make my goal of 500
miles
this season, it'll be especially easy if I get a few side trips in besides my
usual commuting
to work.

Rick

--- In Spondyville@yahoogroups.com, "serge_disera" <serge_disera@y...> wrote:
> Bowling alley? Does a spondy actually own a bowling alley?
>

In a message dated 6/29/2005 4:13:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
serge_disera@... writes:

Bowling  alley? Does a spondy actually own a bowling alley?



bigger question... Can a spondy bowl? lol.. I sure  can't.. back  is too bad



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Bowling alley? Does a spondy actually own a bowling alley?


--- In Spondyville@yahoogroups.com, spedmus <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > We're always a small group anyway...lol
> >
> >
> >We may be a small but we could be a recognizable group.  It is fun
to
> meet spondys in real time and in person.  I have done that a few
times
> and it's always nice to see others that are going on the same roller
> coaster.  I wish Atlanta were nearer to Virginia- I'd love to meet
you
> and Betty, too!  We kick around the idea of meeting some where- maybe
> we should do more than just kick it around.  Quite a few of us have
met
> Michael in NYC and his apartment won't hold all of Spondyville at the
> same time- where would a nice central location be?  I know Rick's
> bowling alley would be great - we could eat and drink and BOWL!

In a message dated 6/29/2005 3:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:

We kick  around the idea of meeting some where- maybe
we should do more than just  kick it around.


that would be nice... I like the idea...  somebody should plan it..and I'll
come...

meet at some decent hotel (with a poool)  lol  for a weekend.. we can all
meet.. go to dinner..etc... it would be  fun...

hmmm meeting at the beach sounds  nine...lol

betty


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In a message dated 6/29/2005 3:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:

I'd love  to meet you
and Betty, too!  We kick around the idea of meeting some  where- maybe
we should do more than just kick it around.  Quite a few  of us have met
Michael in NYC and his apartment won't hold all of  Spondyville at the
same time- where would a nice central location  be?  I know Rick's
bowling alley would be great - we could eat and  drink and BOWL


I'm all for it... we should plan to meet  sometime..!!!

LETS ALL GO TO SPENSERS!! lol... I'll  bring some wine coolers!!...Now who
all wants to stop by KFC and bring a bucket  of chicken? lol

oops.. is that chicken thing to  southern?  well... How about some good ol
pizza... I hear there is really  good pizza in NYC...

betty


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> We're always a small group anyway...lol
>
>
>We may be a small but we could be a recognizable group.  It is fun to
meet spondys in real time and in person.  I have done that a few times
and it's always nice to see others that are going on the same roller
coaster.  I wish Atlanta were nearer to Virginia- I'd love to meet you
and Betty, too!  We kick around the idea of meeting some where- maybe
we should do more than just kick it around.  Quite a few of us have met
Michael in NYC and his apartment won't hold all of Spondyville at the
same time- where would a nice central location be?  I know Rick's
bowling alley would be great - we could eat and drink and BOWL!

Hi Cynthia,,

  Other than Denise in Richmond...  (and you in Blacksburg)... I  don't recall
anyone anywhere near this area in Spondyville before.

It'd be nice to just meet at some resturant... ...eat... chat.. share
stories...etc....
We're always a small group anyway...lol


betty


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Hi Betty,

It is nice meeting you.  I do get by Lynchburg occasionaly myself.
So far you are the first to respond.  I will keep you posted as I
find others.

Cynthia

--- In Spondyville@yahoogroups.com, onefineseamstres@a... wrote:
> Hey  Cynthia,
>
>  I live in Lynchburg and can occassionally get to Roanoke..  (I
once lived
> in Roanoke some yrs back)
>
> I have Spondyloarthropathy.  I was told about 10 yrs back... by
the  rheumy
> that it was "undifferent" at first...meaning he couldn't lump in in
one
> specific group..
> Later because of much spuring..he said he felt I would eventually
have
> probelms with fusing...
> This past 2 yrs..he has said it is not AS.. but PA..(one of the
other
> spondyloarthropathies..)
> psoriasis on tendons..etc... He said it could not be AS..because
there is  no
> fusion..?
> Others say Yes... it can be AS with our fusion.. heck if I know
anymore...
>
> In anycase...  I do have degenerative disc disease.. all of the
disc  in the
> lumbar section of the spine have collasped now.. and the vertabrae
have  moved
> very close..I saw the x rays this time...(just done this past wed
> evening)... and 2 are so close they nearly touch...
>
> OUCH!.. no wonder i feel some "crunchie" feelings down there... the
bones
> looked ok.. they were not wearing bad... those 2 that are so
close.. might be
> beginning...
>
> Disability must be lurking not to far off..and I'm gonna take it
when I can
> get it..
> from what I understand... I will still be able to work  just a
little...
> just can't go over a certain amount each month... It used to be
$500  but I
> think the amount has been raised a bit..
> maybe someone else knows..
>
> I have recently cut my work hours.. I can't sit and sew doing
alterations
> all day anymore.. kills my back...
>
>
> I guess It might be difficult to find others close by......
Perhaps
> regional? lol... like Roanoke?
>
> if there are any other from this part of the state?
>
> betty
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hmmm that is so interesting. I don't have details about the Fanchers (its my
married name), but I do know that the family came from New York and a section of
New York actually called Fancher town or something like that. I will see my
in-laws in a couple of weeks and check with them.

~Jill
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bill and Ann
   To: Spondyville@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:20 PM
   Subject: Re: [Spondyville] Fancher


   Thank you Spencer.. I don't have all my Fancher stuff but alot of it.  My
   family married a male Fancher so there is whole line to develop.  I have
   will's naming the Fanchers and their daughters.  I will see if it ties in.
   Thanks again

   Ann
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "spenser23as" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
   To: <Spondyville@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:09 PM
   Subject: [Spondyville] Fancher


   >A while ago someone posted something about the surname Fancher.  I know
   > this is weird, but while doing some genealogy research on a website for
   > Onondaga County in upstate NY, I came across the surname Fancher.  I
   > know the odds of this being connected to the same Fancher is remote to
   > say the least, but I thought I'd pass it on anyway.
   >
   > It was a headstone on a grave in an abandoned cemetery outside of
   > Lysander, NY.  Here is the headstone: "Fancher, Matilda d. Aug. 6,
   > 1844, ae. 5y 2m, d/o Samuel & Clarissa"
   >
   > Spenser23as
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >



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Thanks for the info Kenneth unfortuntly the DC area is a long drive
from Blacksburg.  Hopefuly it will be a good reminder for those that
live closer to that part of the state.

Cynthia
--- In Spondyville@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth Delano" <walleye507@c...>
wrote:
> Cynthia,
>
> The Spondylitis Association of America (SAA) has a support group in
the DC area. Contact information is:
>       Roger Stead  Washington DC Area, VA  (703) 569-8270
>       rogerstead@a...
>
>
>
> You can also contact the SAA and they will help you set up a support
group if you're to far away from the other one.
> http://www.spondylitis.org/main.aspx

Hey  Cynthia,

  I live in Lynchburg and can occassionally get to Roanoke..  (I  once lived
in Roanoke some yrs back)

I have Spondyloarthropathy.  I was told about 10 yrs back... by the  rheumy
that it was "undifferent" at first...meaning he couldn't lump in in one
specific group..
Later because of much spuring..he said he felt I would eventually have
probelms with fusing...
This past 2 yrs..he has said it is not AS.. but PA..(one of the other
spondyloarthropathies..)
psoriasis on tendons..etc... He said it could not be AS..because there is  no
fusion..?
Others say Yes... it can be AS with our fusion.. heck if I know  anymore...

In anycase...  I do have degenerative disc disease.. all of the disc  in the
lumbar section of the spine have collasped now.. and the vertabrae have  moved
very close..I saw the x rays this time...(just done this past wed
evening)... and 2 are so close they nearly touch...

OUCH!.. no wonder i feel some "crunchie" feelings down there... the bones
looked ok.. they were not wearing bad... those 2 that are so close.. might be
beginning...

Disability must be lurking not to far off..and I'm gonna take it when I can
get it..
from what I understand... I will still be able to work  just a  little...
just can't go over a certain amount each month... It used to be  $500  but I
think the amount has been raised a bit..
maybe someone else knows..

I have recently cut my work hours.. I can't sit and sew doing alterations
all day anymore.. kills my back...


I guess It might be difficult to find others close by...... Perhaps
regional? lol... like Roanoke?

if there are any other from this part of the state?

betty


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Cynthia,

The Spondylitis Association of America (SAA) has a support group in the DC area.
Contact information is:
       Roger Stead  Washington DC Area, VA  (703) 569-8270
       rogerstead@...



You can also contact the SAA and they will help you set up a support group if
you're to far away from the other one.
http://www.spondylitis.org/main.aspx
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: harpfencer
   To: Spondyville@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:56 PM
   Subject: [Spondyville] Live near Blacksburg Virginia? Want a support group?


   Greetings to all Spondyville members.  I live near Blacksburg
   Virginia.  I have had Ankylosing Spondylitis for almost ten years.  I
   have yet to meet another person with it.  I find that my ankylosing
   spondylitis does not leave me able to regularly post here.  If there
   is
   a local support group, I am unawares.  Assuming that there is not one
   I
   feel that I should start one.  If you live within what you consider a
   reasonable drive of Blacksburg and are interested in meeting others
   with AS to tackle this disease together please email me at
   harpfencer@...   Give me an idea of your free time in the week
   following the Forth of July.  I will pick the best time I can and
   find
   us a public place to meet.

   Hoping to find some of you to meet.

   Cynthia Brame






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Greetings to all Spondyville members.  I live near Blacksburg
Virginia.  I have had Ankylosing Spondylitis for almost ten years.  I
have yet to meet another person with it.  I find that my ankylosing
spondylitis does not leave me able to regularly post here.  If there
is
a local support group, I am unawares.  Assuming that there is not one
I
feel that I should start one.  If you live within what you consider a
reasonable drive of Blacksburg and are interested in meeting others
with AS to tackle this disease together please email me at
harpfencer@...   Give me an idea of your free time in the week
following the Forth of July.  I will pick the best time I can and
find
us a public place to meet.

Hoping to find some of you to meet.

Cynthia Brame

Hi Dwayne!  Good to hear from you!  First off, congrats on the 97, that
is fantastic!  I am back on Remicade now, and I seem to do well on it.
I also take Methotrexate with it.  I have not had that kind of problem,
but have had a long problem with an infection that has taken a long
time to deal with.

As for the spam, I try to delete it as quickly as possible, but
sometimes an ocassional spam post slips through.  The spammers often
disregard the zero-tolerance rule we have about spam here in
Spondyville, but if and when they do, they are banned and their posts
are deleted as soon as I notice them.

Continued Good Luck with your studies!

Spenser23as

Dear group,

I hope this finds everyone doing well.  I am sorry I have not emailed in a
while, but have been busy with school.  I am going to medical assisting school,
and doing pretty well at it.  I thought my AS would flare up from being under
some stress, but it did not.  I have been in school since 5/26/05 and have not
missed a day yet.  I just finished my 1st course and got a 97 in it.  I am
really excited.  I just hope and pray that the next course will be an easy one. 
I have a feeling it is not, due to it being about pharmacology and math
formulas.  I have trouble doing math, so I will probably hate the course.  I
have to remain positive though, right?  I don't know if I told everyone, but
back in February, I contracted bacterial pneumonia.  I was taking prednisone,
methotrexate, and humira at the time.  I was so sick that I was on a vent for
about a week.  Has anyone ever gotten real sick from there immune system being
suppressed by the steroids?  My rheumy told my parents that I should
  not have been taken methotrexate with humira, is that not okay?  They are
thinking about putting me on Remicade.  Has anyone got some positive results
with that drug?  We will see.  Well, I will go for now.  I have to go back and
do some more studying before Monday comes along.  Spenser, I have been getting
some spam in my in-box from spondyville.  I just wanted to know if anyone else
has been getting spam as well.  I deleted it and sent a copy of it to my ISP.  I
thought that was prohibited in spondyville.  Well, everyone have a great Sunday
and a great week, and I will be chatting with everyone later.  Everybody wish me
good luck in this next course, I am going to need it!

Have a great night,
Dwayne









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Speser,
hmmm   you are up mighty late... after midnight too.... are you  starting to
turn into the pumpkin yet? lol

betty


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This Week at the Spondy Cafe: Cantaloupe Halves and Toast!

Join a splendiferous spasm of 'specially sporty Spondys for a
friendly, supportive chat EVERY Saturday morning at 10AM Eastern Time
(NYC time) in the Spondy Cafe chat room here on the Yahoo Spondyville
Home Base ...

FREE bottomless mugs of cyber-coffee or cyber-tea!

The Spondy Cafe, where the refills are on the house and NOT in your
lap ... (Unless we forget to take our meds, then extra cyber-napkins
are also available ... )

To get to the Chat room just click on the Chat button on the left
side of the Spondyville Yahoo Home Base page ...

OR - If you're feeling a little more adventurous, you can follow
these simple cyber-directions:

To get to the Spondy Cafe, simply turn left at the intersection of
Inflammation Ave. and Autoimmune Blvd., then go straight for a mile
and a half, past the hollowed out tree stump, which is actually quite
close to the legendary thorny briar patch of idyllic happiness,
which, ironically, is only a few short steps above and beyond the
festering quagmire of lost hopes from which rises dramatically, the
majestic purple mountain of steely resolve under the bluest of dream-
laden skies ... Keep going till you get to the beautiful art-deco
Spondyville Bijou - Now Showing:  Mike Myers in: "Austin Spondy:
International Man of Misery" ... then take a very HARD right and
follow the big gaudy billboards to the dark and scary sinkhole of
outrageous idiocy, this week featuring: A classic example of the
patented Dick Cheney-Karl Rove sleight of mouth, slight of thought,
distraction of the masses technique ... (You are getting sleepy ...
sleeepyyyy...)  ... Of course, you and Sen. Dick Durbin can
shake your head in utter disbelief and then avoid getting involved in
that whole mess by using the secret door behind the sinkhole's
southwest brick wall and proceed directly to the Alpha Gore Memorial
Information Superhighway overpass and filibuster your way to the
newly re-vamped Howard Dean Gaffe Cafe, turn left onto the Democratic
Blue Highway Bypass to America's Coastlines ... then go straight till
you get to Pete the Papparazzi's Absolutely Authentic Real Genuine
photo museum, this week featuring candid pics of Nicole Kidman trying
to get some publicity for her new film by  proposing to a 20 year old
film actor at the Eiffel Tower ... WAIT A MINUTE!! Those pictures
CAN'T BE REAL!! (wink) ...Then go straight for a mile and three
quarters, turn left at the second traffic light, then take the Papa
Letterman Bypass, swerve to avoid Paul and the hipsters known
collectively as the CBS Orchestra and keep going all the way to the
littered empty lot which has been magically transformed into
Spondyville.com,(It's completely Spondylightful AND
Spondylicious! ... but still in need of YOUR creative input! ... then
hang a right at the bronze plaque which marks the EXACT spot where
age meets wisdom and wrestles it into submission ... While you're
waiting for wisdom to cry Uncle,  you can purchase your own
beautifully cool new Spondyville Fuser Baseball caps and 11oz.
ceramic Spondyville mugs!! BOTH THE CAPS AND THE MUGS ARE NOW
AVAILABLE FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT!! GET YOUR ORDERS IN NOW and BEAT THE
July 4th PRICE INCREASE! ... For a limited time, we will be offering
5 mugs for the price of 4 and a half mugs!!  Offer expires on July
5th!  Then, keep going until you see the friendly, blinking neon
signs for the Spondylitis Association Home Page. Then park your
vehicle in the only lot where 9 out of 10 spots are marked "If you
can turn your head, you CAN'T park here!", whisper "Marie Strumpell
sent me", and then take the flagstone path that leads around the back
and look for the enormous non-toppled statue of the curiously exotic
machinist's assistant  with the fused spinal column, and ... you've
made it!!

Remember, since 1995, if it's Saturday, it's the Spondy Cafe.


Spenser23as

Hey Tyler! It's good to hear from you!  I missed you too!

Spenser23as

Thank you Spencer.. I don't have all my Fancher stuff but alot of it.  My
family married a male Fancher so there is whole line to develop.  I have
will's naming the Fanchers and their daughters.  I will see if it ties in.
Thanks again

Ann
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Subject: [Spondyville] Fancher


>A while ago someone posted something about the surname Fancher.  I know
> this is weird, but while doing some genealogy research on a website for
> Onondaga County in upstate NY, I came across the surname Fancher.  I
> know the odds of this being connected to the same Fancher is remote to
> say the least, but I thought I'd pass it on anyway.
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> It was a headstone on a grave in an abandoned cemetery outside of
> Lysander, NY.  Here is the headstone: "Fancher, Matilda d. Aug. 6,
> 1844, ae. 5y 2m, d/o Samuel & Clarissa"
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A while ago someone posted something about the surname Fancher.  I know
this is weird, but while doing some genealogy research on a website for
Onondaga County in upstate NY, I came across the surname Fancher.  I
know the odds of this being connected to the same Fancher is remote to
say the least, but I thought I'd pass it on anyway.

It was a headstone on a grave in an abandoned cemetery outside of
Lysander, NY.  Here is the headstone: "Fancher, Matilda d. Aug. 6,
1844, ae. 5y 2m, d/o Samuel & Clarissa"

  Spenser23as