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Re: [SocialFitnessForum] Hello.

well, I'm no PhD scientist, and probably not nearly as smart as you are, but I'd imagine at least part of what you're experiencing is you don't feel comfortable or like you have much in common with the people you're trying to conversate (v form of conversation?) with. I can only go by what you've said, but I think what I'd recommend is to find something other than work that is of interest to you. Conversation should only feel like work if it is work. I've known a few MIT graduates (one I can think of anyway) and he would often talk down to those around him without meaning to. The truth of the matter is most people are dumb, except maybe in one or two subjects that they're really interested in. If you really are happy alone (which I can't really relate to myself. I'm alone and I hate it with a passion) you can probably get by just practicing social techniques. If you have no aching need to interact with people why be nervous? What the hell difference does it make what they think? There are plenty of aloof pricks that manage to earn respect, succeed, and (pardon my French) fuck them if they can't take an attitude. On the other hand, if you do want friends or at least casual acquaintances, if for no other reason than to have someone to talk to, explore the mysteries of the universe with, and maybe now and then do a two or more person activity with, you're going to have to accept them on their level. I've known some very interesting people that weren't reeking with brilliance. I've even fallen in love with a few. If you'll allow me some armchair psychology it's possible some of your isolation is protecting yourself. You're a respected professional, and might be afraid of making a fool of yourself. You can think of social interaction as an equation, or a game, or a military strategy. Determine what exactly you want out of it, and balance that with a plan. No one said you have to be an Einstein of socializing, and if nothing else if the experiment fails with one subject you have a lot more to work with. Socializing at work may or may not be an answer. I don't have enough data to determine that. You wrote this forum so apparently you feel the need fo some kind of socialization, for whatever reason. Most small talk is difficult for me, and usually is about things that may not interest you that much. I've heard some of it wondering at things I've long since exhausted and explored ages ago.
 
So maybe I'm not the best person to ask. I can preach, but I'm not that good at practicing my sermon. The best thing I can say is relax, accept people on their level, and don't take it too seriously. People may be superficial stupid backstabbing jerks half the time but they have their good side and having friends - or at least the right friends - has usually made my life more fulfilling. Sometimes even the wrong friends can at least make it more interesting. Good luck

binace1 <binace1@...> wrote:
Hello.

     This is my first time as a member of a group like this.  I've
looked at some of the other posts and saw that other people have
some of the same problems that I do.  My situation seems a bit
different, though.  I'm a thirty-year-old PhD scientist with a
wonderful job and a fantastic salary.  I routinely give talks to
large audiences (> 100 people) without any difficulty whatsoever. 
In fact, I even enjoy this type of activity.  On the other hand, if
someone button-holes me in the hallway for a few minutes of idle
chit-chat, my heart starts racing, beads of sweat pop out on my
forehead, and I have no idea what to say.  I find it almost
impossible to maintain eye contact for longer than a few seconds and
these conversations often end in awkward silences.  Afterwards, I
replay the scene continuously in my mind, trying to think of how I
could have responded at different junctures in the conversation.  I
imagine my co-workers find me to be an aloof prick, but that's
probably not accurate at all.  What the hell is my problem?
     I don't have any friends, but that doesn't really bother me.
I'm most comfortable and happy when I'm by myself.  I wouldn't in
any way characterize myself as lonely.  Unfortunately, the world we
occupy demands some socialization and I seem to be incapable of any
normal casual interpersonal interaction.  It's been liberating just
to write this and I'm wondering if anyone else is in a similar
situation to mine.






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Hello. This is my first time as a member of a group like this. I've looked at some of the other posts and saw that other people have some of the same problems...
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Well, that would have exactly described me 16 years ago. I don't think your behavior is that unusual in certain circles. At the time I could have named a...
Bob Mayo
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Apr 7, 2006
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I can relate to some of what you said I work in a technical job and even though i know the stuff im talking about really well if im front of a customer and...
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well, I'm no PhD scientist, and probably not nearly as smart as you are, but I'd imagine at least part of what you're experiencing is you don't feel...
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Well similar in the sense that, like you, I'm very successful intellectually and I enjoy and am good at public speaking and lectures. I've always thought this...
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Apr 12, 2006
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Hey! I feel the same way. I don't mind speaking to groups of people. I used to read the epistle at church and that was alright. I just can't make small talk...
Will
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Hi Will, IMO, you should not settle for a non-social life. There are many things you have yet to learn or try. Check out Debra Fine and Susan Roane. Both have...
Stuart Goldman
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Apr 15, 2006
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But that doesnt help me with the way I feel about just talking to someone because i am interested in a relationship. Will look into it. Happy Easter all! : )...
Will
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