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#52 From: "sjourneyconsult" <sjourneyconsult@...>
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 12:38 am
Subject: Equine Experience, Paso Roble Fairgrounds
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Hi everyone my name is Selinda Journey and I am a distributor for
Silver Lining Herbs and EQ Solutions and I will have a booth at the
Equine Experience March 31-April 2, 2006 at the Paso Robles
Fairgrounds. Come by and see me and we will talk horses.

Looking forward to seeing you.

#51 From: Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...>
Date: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:24 am
Subject: Re: Feeding Recommendations
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Keep feeding the herbs. It is not unusual for this to happen, kind of a 'healing crisis'. You should start seeing improvement again soon, but slower this time, if not, you may need to adjust the products. Either way, your horse is improving on the inside due to the nutritional support from the herbs.  Jackie 

bdupont7 <bdupont7@...> wrote:
Hello,

After feeding SL herbs for 2 to 3 weeks I saw great strides and
improvements in my horses health.  As of late his improvement has
leveled off some or degraded and has been that way for about 2 weeks. 
Do herbs loose there effectiveness because tolerances are built up or
is this just part of the healing process?  I know that a tolerance to
painkillers can be built up and then the pain killer will loose its
effectiveness.

Should I feed the herbs for 3 weeks then take it off for 1 week?  Or
should I just keep feeding the herbs for the recommended time?  Maybe
this is part of how things work.  I'm not sure.  But the intial
improvements in my horse were awsome and would like to get that back.

Any help would be great.

Thanks






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#50 From: "bdupont7" <bdupont7@...>
Date: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:13 pm
Subject: Feeding Recommendations
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Hello,

After feeding SL herbs for 2 to 3 weeks I saw great strides and
improvements in my horses health.  As of late his improvement has
leveled off some or degraded and has been that way for about 2 weeks.
Do herbs loose there effectiveness because tolerances are built up or
is this just part of the healing process?  I know that a tolerance to
painkillers can be built up and then the pain killer will loose its
effectiveness.

Should I feed the herbs for 3 weeks then take it off for 1 week?  Or
should I just keep feeding the herbs for the recommended time?  Maybe
this is part of how things work.  I'm not sure.  But the intial
improvements in my horse were awsome and would like to get that back.

Any help would be great.

Thanks

#49 From: Mike Yates <yatesfamily4@...>
Date: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: Re: oats
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I do add apple cider vinegar to their oats. I just had to go back to adding a little bit of sweet oats. He will eat it fine when there is a little sweet taste to go along with everything else. Thanks so much for your suggestion tho.
Jo

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>
> I am having trouble getting my horses to eat all of there meal. When
I
> started on the herbs, they were getting half sweet oats and half dry
> oats. I have since gone to just the whole dry oats mixed with the
> herbs and a bit of apple cider vinegar which I have always included.
> They will begin to eat but always leave some behind. Also, there
seems
> to be a good bit on the stall floor under there buckets. I have 2 out
> of 8 on the herbs at this time and one is eating good and one is
> eating about half. The other 6 are on the oats as well, and 2 of
these
> are being finicky also. Do they just miss the sweet taste? Just don't
> want any of them to start losing weight. Any advicde would be
> appreciated.
>


Have you tried apple cider vinegar? I was having the same trouble and
after about two days with the vinegar everyones buckets are clean. Just
a suggestion Plus the vinegar has alot of added bonus'.






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#48 From: "Kim" <sundownarena@...>
Date: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: oats
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--- In SilverLiningHerbalEquine@yahoogroups.com, "yatesfamily4"
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>
> I am having trouble getting my horses to eat all of there meal. When
I
> started on the herbs, they were getting half sweet oats and half dry
> oats. I have since gone to just the whole dry oats mixed with the
> herbs and a bit of apple cider vinegar which I have always included.
> They will begin to eat but always leave some behind. Also, there
seems
> to be a good bit on the stall floor under there buckets. I have 2 out
> of 8 on the herbs at this time and one is eating good and one is
> eating about half. The other 6 are on the oats as well, and 2 of
these
> are being finicky also. Do they just miss the sweet taste? Just don't
> want any of them to start losing weight. Any advicde would be
> appreciated.
>


Have you tried apple cider vinegar? I was having the same trouble and
after about two days with the vinegar everyones buckets are clean. Just
a suggestion Plus the vinegar has alot of added bonus'.

#47 From: "yatesfamily4" <yatesfamily4@...>
Date: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:10 pm
Subject: oats
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I am having trouble getting my horses to eat all of there meal. When I
started on the herbs, they were getting half sweet oats and half dry
oats. I have since gone to just the whole dry oats mixed with the
herbs and a bit of apple cider vinegar which I have always included.
They will begin to eat but always leave some behind. Also, there seems
to be a good bit on the stall floor under there buckets. I have 2 out
of 8 on the herbs at this time and one is eating good and one is
eating about half. The other 6 are on the oats as well, and 2 of these
are being finicky also. Do they just miss the sweet taste? Just don't
want any of them to start losing weight. Any advicde would be
appreciated.

#46 From: "jn89414" <jn89414@...>
Date: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:35 am
Subject: Sun Country, Scottsdale, Az.
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I just wanted to tell everyone that I will be having a booth at the
Sun Country AQHA show starting the 27th of this month.  Please come by
and see me, I would love to visit with you and learn more about
SilverLining cases.
Thanks so much,
Janelle Nelson,
New Distributor

#45 From: Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:27 am
Subject: Re: Herb mixtures?
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  Hi Brian, glad to hear your horse is doing well. As for herbs for people I choose to take these SL herbs, immune everyday, some of the other blends also. I also use herbs from Pomo Valley Herbs.  Jackie

Brian Dupont <bdupont7@...> wrote:
Hi Jackie,
 
Thankyou for your reply.  So far I have had good luck using the SL kidney herb mix and the #24 immune builder.  I have been feeding the herbs almost 2 weeks now.  My horse now is starting to respond to neck rein pressure and wanting to turn.  As before I was having to force him to turn.  I'm also hoping that it will help his stop.
 
Also I was wondering if anyone has heard of a good herbal supplement for humans?  If its working for my horse why not give it a try on my self.  Maybe I can get rid of some of my aches and pains.  haha  Thanks for all your help.
 

Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...> wrote:
   These Silver Lining mixtures have proven quite safe when used in combination with other SL blends. It would be rare for a horse to need more than 3 or 4 SL products, but not unheard of. Now, if you start adding additional single herbs of your choosing, there may be an issue.
   The problem with too many SL blends is simply giving the horse more that it needs to get results, a waste of product and money. Herbs are digested as food and if the body is given more than it needs the cells just don't except more. Bowel tolerance will let you know if you have reached that level. Care should always be taken with herbs or any other supplimentation, they can be very powerful. These SL blends have been tested and proven to do what they claim. 
    Now, we don't suggest Mare Fertility and Mare Moods at the same time, that is the only one I can think of.     
   You asked about adding Digestive to Kidney and Immune, there would be no problem with that combination.  Jackie

bdupont7 <bdupont7@...> wrote:
Hello,  I was wondering if anyone knows if there was any adverse
effects of serving a horse more than one herb mixture at one time? 
Are there any herb mixes that are not recommended to be used
together?  Thanks for your help.






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#44 From: Brian Dupont <bdupont7@...>
Date: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:29 am
Subject: Re: Herb mixtures?
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Hi Jackie,
 
Thankyou for your reply.  So far I have had good luck using the SL kidney herb mix and the #24 immune builder.  I have been feeding the herbs almost 2 weeks now.  My horse now is starting to respond to neck rein pressure and wanting to turn.  As before I was having to force him to turn.  I'm also hoping that it will help his stop.
 
Also I was wondering if anyone has heard of a good herbal supplement for humans?  If its working for my horse why not give it a try on my self.  Maybe I can get rid of some of my aches and pains.  haha  Thanks for all your help.
 

Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...> wrote:
   These Silver Lining mixtures have proven quite safe when used in combination with other SL blends. It would be rare for a horse to need more than 3 or 4 SL products, but not unheard of. Now, if you start adding additional single herbs of your choosing, there may be an issue.
   The problem with too many SL blends is simply giving the horse more that it needs to get results, a waste of product and money. Herbs are digested as food and if the body is given more than it needs the cells just don't except more. Bowel tolerance will let you know if you have reached that level. Care should always be taken with herbs or any other supplimentation, they can be very powerful. These SL blends have been tested and proven to do what they claim. 
    Now, we don't suggest Mare Fertility and Mare Moods at the same time, that is the only one I can think of.     
   You asked about adding Digestive to Kidney and Immune, there would be no problem with that combination.  Jackie

bdupont7 <bdupont7@...> wrote:
Hello,  I was wondering if anyone knows if there was any adverse
effects of serving a horse more than one herb mixture at one time? 
Are there any herb mixes that are not recommended to be used
together?  Thanks for your help.






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#43 From: Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:48 am
Subject: Re: Herb mixtures?
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   These Silver Lining mixtures have proven quite safe when used in combination with other SL blends. It would be rare for a horse to need more than 3 or 4 SL products, but not unheard of. Now, if you start adding additional single herbs of your choosing, there may be an issue.
   The problem with too many SL blends is simply giving the horse more that it needs to get results, a waste of product and money. Herbs are digested as food and if the body is given more than it needs the cells just don't except more. Bowel tolerance will let you know if you have reached that level. Care should always be taken with herbs or any other supplimentation, they can be very powerful. These SL blends have been tested and proven to do what they claim. 
    Now, we don't suggest Mare Fertility and Mare Moods at the same time, that is the only one I can think of.     
   You asked about adding Digestive to Kidney and Immune, there would be no problem with that combination.  Jackie

bdupont7 <bdupont7@...> wrote:
Hello,  I was wondering if anyone knows if there was any adverse
effects of serving a horse more than one herb mixture at one time? 
Are there any herb mixes that are not recommended to be used
together?  Thanks for your help.






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#42 From: "bdupont7" <bdupont7@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:11 pm
Subject: Herb mixtures?
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Hello,  I was wondering if anyone knows if there was any adverse
effects of serving a horse more than one herb mixture at one time?
Are there any herb mixes that are not recommended to be used
together?  Thanks for your help.

#41 From: "Debra Tibbitts, DVM" <drdebvet@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: Loose stools or bowel movements....
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What if the loose stool issue appears to be stress-related, does the
digestive formula still seem to be the one to choose?

Debra
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East Wenatchee, WA

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#40 From: Brian Dupont <bdupont7@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: Loose stools or bowel movements....
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Ok thanks, I will give it a try.  I just put him on #37 for his Kidneys and #24.  Mickey reccomended to feed both of these.  Because when I first contacted Mickey I asked him about my horses main problem of not wanting to stop or turn.  I just started him on #37 and #24.  Would it be ok to mix in #30 or should I wait and finish out the others before I start another to see how they work.  Hopefully thats not to confusing.  Thanks Brian

Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...> wrote:
   We have had great success with Silver Linings #30 Digestive in other cases just like this one. This product will help to correct the balance in the gut, clear sand and get the intestines in order.  Jackie 

bdupont7 <bdupont7@...> wrote:
Hello, I have a horse that has a constant diareaha(sp) problem.  All
of his poop is really loose and messy.  I've tried switching feeds. 
He seems to do better with straight grass hay.  But the problems still
exists.  If anyone has incountered this problem please let me know. 
Any help would be great.  Thanks






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#39 From: Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:15 am
Subject: Re: Loose stools or bowel movements....
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   We have had great success with Silver Linings #30 Digestive in other cases just like this one. This product will help to correct the balance in the gut, clear sand and get the intestines in order.  Jackie 

bdupont7 <bdupont7@...> wrote:
Hello, I have a horse that has a constant diareaha(sp) problem.  All
of his poop is really loose and messy.  I've tried switching feeds. 
He seems to do better with straight grass hay.  But the problems still
exists.  If anyone has incountered this problem please let me know. 
Any help would be great.  Thanks






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#38 From: "bdupont7" <bdupont7@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:54 am
Subject: Loose stools or bowel movements....
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Hello, I have a horse that has a constant diareaha(sp) problem.  All
of his poop is really loose and messy.  I've tried switching feeds.
He seems to do better with straight grass hay.  But the problems still
exists.  If anyone has incountered this problem please let me know.
Any help would be great.  Thanks

#37 From: Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...>
Date: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:14 am
Subject: Re: Navicular + Herbs
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   We do recommend the use of  #37 Kidney as a starting point for horses with Navicular. The first step is cleaning the system, we feel kidney issues are the reason behind most feet and leg problems, disease starts when the filters don't do the job. So, we cleanse with #37 and strengthen with #12. I usually start these horses on #37 and #12. Continue with #12 as maintenance, one bag of #37 will usually be enough.
   Results do vary. Some horses show improvement in as little as 1 week, some take much longer, but all benefit from use of the product. My husband is a horseshoer and has been amazed by this product, how well it works. Jackie           

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I have a horse with navicular and a friend told me about Silver
Lining's products.  I ordered #12 (Feet Relief) and am hoping that
this is the miracle I'm looking for.  What is the success rate?  About
how long does it take to show an improved condition?  I know it varies
from horse to horse, but approximately how long does a horse with
navicular need to be on this supplement - for life?

I read that #37 (Kidney) could help in addition to #12.  I did not
order #12 as my horse is pretty sensitive and I did not want to try
too many things at once.  Why is this beneficial in addition to #12? 
Do I need to order #37?

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#36 From: "barrelracer497" <barrelracer497@...>
Date: Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:14 pm
Subject: Navicular + Herbs
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I have a horse with navicular and a friend told me about Silver
Lining's products.  I ordered #12 (Feet Relief) and am hoping that
this is the miracle I'm looking for.  What is the success rate?  About
how long does it take to show an improved condition?  I know it varies
from horse to horse, but approximately how long does a horse with
navicular need to be on this supplement - for life?

I read that #37 (Kidney) could help in addition to #12.  I did not
order #12 as my horse is pretty sensitive and I did not want to try
too many things at once.  Why is this beneficial in addition to #12?
Do I need to order #37?

Thanks! BR497

#35 From: MaryAnna Clemons <clemonsmary@...>
Date: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: Re: checking points for problems
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Debra Tibbitts <drdebvet@...> wrote:
Hi Mary,

Just wondering if you ever found that book on accupoints to check for
possible internal issues.

Thanks,

Debra

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> Hi,
> I got a great book that is at home. I will try to remember to get
the title and post. I also bought a torch light that is supposed to
work wonders on accupoints on the horse. It came with a method of
"testing" the horse for sore points and then corresponding those to
the points on the charts that came with the torch.
> The horses love it, but I'm not sure how much it really
accomplishes. I think I'd have gotten the same results with massge and
accupressure..... Oh well, us horse people are made of money,
right..........
> Will try to get that book title on here over the weekend. Mary in
Colorado
>
> "Debra Tibbitts, DVM" <drdebvet@f...> wrote:
> How does one learn about where the various assiocation points are
> located on a horse? I would like to add that to my exam/diagnostics on
> my patients.
>
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#34 From: "Debra Tibbitts" <drdebvet@...>
Date: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: checking points for problems
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Hi Mary,

Just wondering if you ever found that book on accupoints to check for
possible internal issues.

Thanks,

Debra

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<clemonsmary@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I got a great book that is at home. I will try to remember to get
the title and post. I also bought a torch light that is supposed to
work wonders on accupoints on the horse. It came with a method of
"testing" the horse for sore points and then corresponding those to
the points on the charts that came with the torch.
> The horses love it, but I'm not sure how much it really
accomplishes. I think I'd have gotten the same results with massge and
accupressure..... Oh well, us horse people are made of money,
right..........
> Will try to get that book title on here over the weekend. Mary in
Colorado
>
> "Debra Tibbitts, DVM" <drdebvet@f...> wrote:
> How does one learn about where the various assiocation points are
> located on a horse? I would like to add that to my exam/diagnostics on
> my patients.
>
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#33 From: "horseblessed" <cherni711@...>
Date: Mon Nov 7, 2005 1:51 pm
Subject: Thyroid- wont eat
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I put my IR mare on the Thyroid that mickey suggested and she wont
touch it. Does this mean she doesnt need it, I know they will seek out
the herbs they need and she turns her nose up to it. I put the whole
tbls in the first day, she acted like she wastnt thrilled but ate it.
Then the 2nd day she took one bite and said no way. so the 3rd day I
only put in a tsp and she still wouldnt eat it. Should I paste her
with it or trust her instincts? Jill

#32 From: MaryAnna Clemons <clemonsmary@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: Re: checking points for problems
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Hi,
I got a great book that is at home. I will try to remember to get the title and post. I also bought a torch light that is supposed to work wonders on accupoints on the horse. It came with a method of "testing" the horse for sore points and then corresponding those to the points on the charts that came with the torch.
The horses love it, but I'm not sure how much it really accomplishes. I think I'd have gotten the same results with massge and accupressure..... Oh well, us horse people are made of money, right..........
Will try to get that book title on here over the weekend. Mary in Colorado

"Debra Tibbitts, DVM" <drdebvet@...> wrote:
How does one learn about where the various assiocation points are
located on a horse? I would like to add that to my exam/diagnostics on
my patients.

Debra
Debra Tibbitts, DVM
East Wenatchee, WA

drdebvet@...



 Have a good day!!!

MaryAnna


#31 From: "Debra Tibbitts, DVM" <drdebvet@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: checking points for problems
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How does one learn about where the various assiocation points are
located on a horse? I would like to add that to my exam/diagnostics on
my patients.

Debra
Debra Tibbitts, DVM
East Wenatchee, WA

drdebvet@...

#30 From: MaryAnna Clemons <clemonsmary@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New horse - kinda long
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Hi,
I'm in Colo. Springs, COLO. I do know the accupressure points, I frankly just haven't had the time to spend with him on it.
 
Husband rode him twice since then and he has only humped once and half hearted at that. I think it was a temper tantrum!

Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...> wrote:
  MaryAnna, do you have a Silver Lining distributor that can come and look at your horse? Yes, there are points to check that are very accurate. Where are you located? I am going to be gone for 10 days, won't be on the computer till then.  Jackie 

MaryAnna Clemons <clemonsmary@...> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Can  you tell me if you know, is there another way to check for kidney problems, other than a vet?
Thanks

jackiebhagberg <jackiebhagberg@...> wrote:
> Mary, wow, sounds like a problem! Are you able to check this horse
for kidney soreness or an ulcer? Maybe the move made these issues
worse. Rule out those problems then go from there. Sounds to me like
you guys handled it right on your end when things got ugly.  Jackie 
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#29 From: Jackie Hagberg <jackiebhagberg@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:16 am
Subject: Re: Re: New horse - kinda long
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  MaryAnna, do you have a Silver Lining distributor that can come and look at your horse? Yes, there are points to check that are very accurate. Where are you located? I am going to be gone for 10 days, won't be on the computer till then.  Jackie 

MaryAnna Clemons <clemonsmary@...> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Can  you tell me if you know, is there another way to check for kidney problems, other than a vet?
Thanks

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> Mary, wow, sounds like a problem! Are you able to check this horse
for kidney soreness or an ulcer? Maybe the move made these issues
worse. Rule out those problems then go from there. Sounds to me like
you guys handled it right on your end when things got ugly.  Jackie 
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#28 From: "horseblessed" <cherni711@...>
Date: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: Reticulated Leukotrichia
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Janelle,
      Hello, Just joined as Im a big fan of SLH. I have had my QH
gelding on the immune, and the liver for 2 bags worth each. He had
serious bumps from flies, Mickey told me to give him the liver but it
didnt do a whole lot, it helped some but the bumps were still there
but not as bad. After reading your post I was wondering if I should
give him the kidney. He has had the bumps for 3 yrs. I feed the herbal
wormer as well, they all love it! Jill



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> I looked this up on the internet and your information seemed acurate.
> I wanted to tell you , also, that I put my mares on the Kidney and
one of the side effects was that this itchy alergic reaction to
culicodes has almost disappeared.  I had been fighting this for 19
years!!!
> Thought you might want to keep this in mind.
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Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:50 pm
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Thanks for the reply. Can  you tell me if you know, is there another way to check for kidney problems, other than a vet?
Thanks

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#25 From: "Griggs, Danielle [DOT]" <danielle.griggs@...>
Date: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:18 pm
Subject: RE: New horse - kinda long
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Wow Mary, I'm perplexed.  ALTHOUGH.... I sold a little mare last year that I had for over two years and was the second owner.  We bought her as at 8 year old, I bought her when my daughter was 5.  My daughter rode her by herself all the time - on trailrides and everything.  My step-daughter who is as green as they come, this was the only horse on our place that she would ride.  I loved this mare, decided I wasn't going to sell her unless I got my asking price and when the ad ran out I wasn't going to advertise her anymore.
 
They took her to Colorado and she was a pig there (the guys terminology) he had put my daughter on her before he took her and she worked just like she always does.  He didn't ride her or have the girl he was buying her for ride her.  Took her home and started feeding his hay and graining her (which she wasn't used to) she was an easy keeper...we fed grass hay and her no grain she didn't work hard enough to need grain and stayed fat that way.  Like I said, they fed her grain and alfalfa hay and had her about a week to two weeks before they rode her and she did things that I know she didn't even do when she was a 2 year old getting broke.  I was so upset by it.  I only sold her to them because they said she would have a good home.  We had bought something else (a step up for my daughter) by this time and had no money left.  We actually had to finance the last 500.  I couldn't buy her back either.
 
I was complete and udderly astonished that she would act the way they said.  But it caught my eye that you bought this horse somewhere else and took it to Colorado and it acted completely different that it has.  Just wierd.  I look forward to seeing others input on this!!!!
 
Danielle


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Subject: [SilverLiningHerbalEquine] New horse - kinda long

Hi to all,
I have a question.
I bought a 6 year old gelding, paint horse, that was supposed to be broke, broke, broke and suitable for a 12-yr-old.
We got him out of Kansas, brought him back to Colorado and put him in the round pen for a week.
The last family that had him gave him a coffee can of oats and sweet feed mixed together, just one can, but daily. The horse was not being worked hard enough for the feed, IMO.
They were feeding grass hay.
We feed no grain, unless it's a treat, or very cold, and then only whole oats. We fed him a timothy grass and slowly introduced our alfalfa/grass mix hay.
 
Ok, so a week after he gets home and he:
 
Today was the first day we've had to ride him. We started by lunging him in the round pen for a good half hour, walk, trot, lope. Walk, trot, lope. Then CheyAnne rode him for another half hour at a walk, trot, small lope. Stop, back up, walk, trot, etc.

Then we took him out of the round pen and Sonny, Brian’s horse, and her dad was with her. We have an arena area that is disced up and worked with a bow rake and that is what we went to. They walked, they trotted, they were all having a fine time for about a half an hour, he humped up once she pulled him direct rein in a circle and they walked out of it, and walked around some more. And then he hit the roof, and there was no rhyme or reason to it. He bucked her off good all the way across the arena, past the shelter belt of trees and into a t-post, he ripped the protector top off of a t-post and almost drove her into it. She hung on for at least three minutes of serious bucking. I am not talking about crow hopping here. I'm talking about real, honest to goodness bucking.

So, then Samson runs around the yard, after he dumped her, bucking and kicking. We gather up the kids, put the other horse away and go fetch him. We walk him back to the arena area and to change saddles as Brian is going to ride him and see what's up. We were switching saddles and he started bucking right there with ME holding him. He lunged forward, almost knocked me over and went to flat out saddle bronc bucking around the yard. Literally.

Finally, we catch him again, get the saddles changed, get him back in the round pen and Brian goes to riding him. Walk, walk, walk. Trot, trot, turn, turn. Doing good for about five minutes to ten minutes and he starts up with Brian. Brian got after him GOOD, turning him and direct reining him in a circle. Then he walked him out of it.

They started again and Samson is humping up on him. They went through a bucking phase that Brian was able to get him to come out of. They walk again and he goes to bucking, only Samson is not so sure it's going to work this time, but he gives it a good try. They start again and Samson goes again. We had put a tie down on him and he tried to go straight up, but Brian was able to calm him down and walk him out of it.

Brian took him to the arena area and they walked and walked and moved up to a trot. They got into a big lope for about 7 minutes and then he walked him out of it and put him tied and saddled in the round pen, he tried to hump and buck half heartdley in the arena area about three times. 

 

Brian ended up working him for about another two hours, nothing harmful, but put a good sweat to him (actually, I was very impressed with my husband's patience).

 

So, the question is, what does everyone think is going on? (I believe this gal that this is the first time he's ever acted like this, but then again she would only take him back if I paid her expenses for advertising and drove him 1,000 miles to her door)

IS there a product that anyone thinks will help him?

Do you think he had a temper tantrum?

 

Do you have suggestions?

 

Thanks, Mary



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  Good day to all. Let,s start posting success stories here to let
people learn more about Silver Lining.
  I went to a breeding farm to check on two foals that had issues. One
foal had a hernia that was to be sugically repared, so, we decided to
put the mare and foal on #10 and #24 to build to mare and foals immune
system prior to surgery. This mare has a history of cronic laminitis,
she was so sore that she could barely get accross to pen, so we
dicided to also use #12.
  Well, two weeks later this beautiful National Champion mare come
running to the gate to greet me, the ranch manager is delighted with
her progress and that of the foal. He said he had not seen this mare
run and play for years. The foals inguinal hernia has healed with no
surgery.  Jackie





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Date: Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:05 pm
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Good day to all. Let,s start posting success stories here to let
people learn more about Silver Lining.
   I went to a breeding farm to check on two foals that had issues. One
foal had a hernia that was to be sugically repared, so, we decided to
put the mare and foal on #10 and #24 to build to mare and foals immune
system prior to surgery. This mare has a history of cronic laminitis,
she was so sore that she could barely get accross to pen, so we
dicided to also use #12.
   Well, two weeks later this beautiful National Champion mare come
running to the gate to greet me, the ranch manager is delighted with
her progress and that of the foal. He said he had not seen this mare
run and play for years. The foals inguinal hernia has healed with no
surgery.  Jackie

#22 From: "jackiebhagberg" <jackiebhagberg@...>
Date: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: herbal wormer
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I have used the wormer for 3 years and I hav'nt used anything
else. I don't run fecal exams because my horses look great.
   A common misconception is that a random fecal exam is accurate as
to an individual horses worm load, it isn't. If you want to get an
accurate picture you must run fecals daily for a long period of time
on each individual. This is the only way to determine an individual
horses normal parasite load because so many factors can determine
that amount...immune response, stress, feed changes, etc. You may
run a fecal exam and get a high count, do nothing, and one week
later have a very low count.
   The thought with non-chemical products is to strike a balance, to
control parasites without the poisenous side effects of chemical
products.
   Try the wormer, your horses will thank you.  Jackie     --- In
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> wormer from time to time and do you do check fecals?  Thanks

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