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Re: Iceberg

Hi,

I'm fairly new to this board, but I use ZPoint process on a daily
basis because it really works. I spend my time working on severe
abuse issues which have affected my entire life. Naturally, the
issues don't clear in a few applications (I'm peeling the layers of
a huge onion, after all)- but the difference between where I was
when I began and where I am now is astonishing- and I truly
appreciate the difference. What I've found is that after
clearing "everybody and everything else"- I'm left with "me"- and my
issues. These issues are the core of the onion (at least for me). So
I apply ZPoint for these issues, too- because I've held myself back
for way too long. Whatever doubts and fears come up- I'll use ZPoint
for that, too. And this time, I intend to shoot for the moon. As far
as feeling underappreciated- and "under" everything else, this may
have genuinely begun with others. However, I have learned that what
I am really looking for is not other's attention or appreciation-
it's my own. When I do something (anything) nice for myself or
appreciate what I do- I get my own power back, which is deeply
satisfying. That's cumulative, too. It is both priceless- and free.
Hope that helps.
--Roxane

In SharingZeroPoint@yahoogroups.com, icajic@... wrote:
>
> I use the word gremlins for smaller issues that are not that
important.
>
> Like the "Big dark boss" sends his minions(gremlins/smaller issues)
> and tells the Zpoint "here's something for you to clear."
>
> And it does feel a bit better after you clear one of those, but the
> problem is, I've been clearing things like that for over 6 months
now,
> almost daily, and I never felt like I've reached complete peace and
> clear vision of what to do with my life.
>
> I'm not ready to release these key issues. It's something that's
been
> there for my entire life, and I almost feel obliged to protect it.
> Having these constantly in the background has just been the way I
live
> my life, it's what I know about life.
>
> I guess I'll go deeper on this with you...
>
> One of the steady factors in my life has been playing a victim. Coz
> that was perhaps the only time where you would get attention and
feel
> loved by others in a family like mine (7 kids).
> A new friend I met a few months ago once said to me, and I
appreciate
> his sincerity, "There's always something wrong with you, you always
> complain about something". And it's true. But I know no other way.
I
> feel like if I don't do it, only then there will be absolutely no
> attention for me. That's probably the reason I'm often get mild
> sicknesses, my feet ligaments keep getting torn when I play
sports. A
> few weeks ago, I got this corn on the bottom of my foot(heal) so I
> can't walk properly.
>
> When I do get sick, it feels relieving. Nothing is expected of me,
I
> get help and attention of others.
>
> Some of you may be shocked, but when I was thinking the other day
of
> what would truly make me happy; if I got to pick any scenario?
> I get diagnosed a terminal disease, I go to hospital, everyone who
> means something to me visits me, they all sit around my bed in
> hospital. Nothing is expected of me anymore because of my
condition,
> everyone forgives me, and feels pity for me. This goes on for a few
> days and then I die.
>
> I'd sign this right now.
>
> And this is just one of the issues......
>





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Hi Grant and all! I found a picture of your Iceberg you speak of in the youtube Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_mechanism I didnt read the article...
yohami_yo
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Dec 14, 2008
4:58 pm

Hello everyone    Thank you Yahomi for bringing my attention to the the Iceberg article it has opend my eyes to what is going on in my world. Yours sincerely...
lynn wright
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Dec 14, 2008
6:59 pm

I would love to say that I feel the same way, but I don't. I used to believe that I do, maybe I even did, but just a few days ago, I realized that all this...
icajic@...
nite_wings_c...
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Dec 15, 2008
2:47 am

Hi Ivan :-) What feeling do you have, when the gremlins come out? ZPoint it. I had also strong dark feelings and sometimes I needed 3, 5, or 6 complete rounds...
Yohami
shanee2244
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Dec 15, 2008
9:24 am

I use the word gremlins for smaller issues that are not that important. Like the "Big dark boss" sends his minions(gremlins/smaller issues) and tells the...
icajic@...
nite_wings_c...
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Dec 15, 2008
4:21 pm

What if you take this email and put it into the circle? Then Zpoint the feeling to it. And then what comes up. Some things need a bit more time and more...
Yohami
shanee2244
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Dec 15, 2008
6:44 pm

wishing you all a very good christmas aswell as a good new year by vijayalakshmi.v ... From: Yohami <yohami@...> Subject: AW: [SharingZeroPoint] Iceberg ...
vvijaya llakshmi
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Dec 16, 2008
8:15 am

Hi, I'm fairly new to this board, but I use ZPoint process on a daily basis because it really works. I spend my time working on severe abuse issues which have...
auraphile2000
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Dec 15, 2008
8:08 pm

A questions about that "then clear what comes up". When you have a characteristic feeling, and you start clearing it, and your mind wanders off in the middle...
icajic@...
nite_wings_c...
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Dec 21, 2008
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hi vijaya, thnaks for christmas. navin  ----- Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Z2hvcmVjaGFvZmZpY2U3ODgy ...
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Dec 16, 2008
9:26 am

Hi Yohami, Thank you for sharing the article. I found it curious that they mis-spelled defense as defence in the whole article, but fixed it for the link name....
Sally Witt
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Dec 19, 2008
2:11 am

Isn't defense spelled defence in the UK and Europe? I know there are just enough differences that I would hate to remember all of them. Mary...
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Dec 19, 2008
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Hi Mary, You are right! Spelling is a funny thing. I looked up the word defence, and even though it is not spelled that way in the US, it is a British ...
Sally Witt
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