Hello. I am a first year doc in Florida. I have a
sister who lives in D.C./Arlington, VA area, and she
really needs some good cat II work done.  If anyone
works in this area or has a great referral, please
reply soon. Thanks for your help.

Luke

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There is a Dr. Marilyn Holbeck in Arlington or Falls Church -- close to
Arlington.  I do not have her number, but your sister could find her in the
phone
book.  I am in College Park, which is considerably farther away.  I believe Dr.
Holbeck would be her best bet.  Good luck -- there aren't too many of us SOT
folks in this area.  Sincerely, Dr. Denise Conner


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Dear Matt,
      I have used SOT. Logan and AO.  In fact I have published with Dr. Roy
Sweat and his son, Matt who was my research asst. at Life East.  In epileptic
and post traumatic head injury cases, I find AO appears to balance ascending
reticular formation pathways to outer cortical layers (1 & 2) .  I also feel
that
differential pressure between right and left spinocerebellar pathways is
improved.  QEEG of brain trauma cases shows there is major reorientation of
dominant EEG frequencies as recorded in the 10/20 system.  One patient who had
bouts
of adult ADHD noted this when he was in Cat. II.  (a Life East student)  When
Cat II was corrected, he regained alpha frequencies which were totally absent
before adjustment.  My publications are available through Today's
Chiropractic at Life East.  The QEEG report by Dr. Cantor in Atlanta metro is
available
in a report I will give you with the patient's permission.
Lasca A. Hospers, Ph.D., D.C.
770-425-3826

Actually Dr. Hosper's paper is in the SOT Collection to the year 2000, which
can be purchased from SOTO-USA online [www.soto-usa.org] or by calling
336-760-1618.   The SOT Collection contrasts from the SOT Compendium because
there
are articles from "non" peer reviewed journals and research conferences, while
the SOT Compendium has only peer reviewed articles.   The SOT Collection
Supplement has both peer reviewed and non peer reviewed articles which were
found
following the publication of the Compendium and Collection.

The cost of finding each article, paying for the journal, or in SOTO-USA's
case the right to reprint the article, more than covers the costs of these
valuable books.   By the end of 2005 we hope to have the next editions.   These
books are a must for any SOT practitioner who wants to be up on SOT related
research, past publications, and historical information.

Dr. Hosper's article is one of many examples.

Charles

Charles L. Blum, DC
drcblum@...
Santa Monica, California
www.soto-usa.org

> Dear Matt,
>      I have used SOT. Logan and AO.  In fact I have published with Dr. Roy
> Sweat and his son, Matt who was my research asst. at Life East.  In
> epileptic
> and post traumatic head injury cases, I find AO appears to balance ascending
> reticular formation pathways to outer cortical layers (1 & 2) .  I also feel
> that
> differential pressure between right and left spinocerebellar pathways is
> improved.  QEEG of brain trauma cases shows there is major reorientation of
> dominant EEG frequencies as recorded in the 10/20 system.  One patient who
> had bouts
> of adult ADHD noted this when he was in Cat. II.  (a Life East student) 
> When
> Cat II was corrected, he regained alpha frequencies which were totally
> absent
> before adjustment.  My publications are available through Today's
> Chiropractic at Life East.  The QEEG report by Dr. Cantor in Atlanta metro
> is available
> in a report I will give you with the patient's permission.
> Lasca A. Hospers, Ph.D., D.C.
> 770-425-3826


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Thank you to everyone who have been so thorough in your replys about Upper
Cervical and SOT.  I am quite determined to make my practice revolve around
these 2 disciplines.  Much to learn.  I find that as my December graduation
nears I realize how little of my education really occurs in school.  When I
started school, my M.D. father asked me if I really wanted to crack backs all
day.  He, like so many others out there had no idea what it is a chiropractor
does.  Now, years later, he has turned 180 degrees, and realizes how much we
have to offer. I too am amazed as I constantly learn the breadth of our
proffesion.  I humbly thank all of you for being mentors and guides to those of
us still a bit green.
Sincerely
Matt Colman

DrCBlum@... wrote:
Actually Dr. Hosper's paper is in the SOT Collection to the year 2000, which
can be purchased from SOTO-USA online [www.soto-usa.org] or by calling
336-760-1618.   The SOT Collection contrasts from the SOT Compendium because
there
are articles from "non" peer reviewed journals and research conferences, while
the SOT Compendium has only peer reviewed articles.   The SOT Collection
Supplement has both peer reviewed and non peer reviewed articles which were
found
following the publication of the Compendium and Collection.

The cost of finding each article, paying for the journal, or in SOTO-USA's
case the right to reprint the article, more than covers the costs of these
valuable books.   By the end of 2005 we hope to have the next editions.   These
books are a must for any SOT practitioner who wants to be up on SOT related
research, past publications, and historical information.

Dr. Hosper's article is one of many examples.

Charles

Charles L. Blum, DC
drcblum@...
Santa Monica, California
www.soto-usa.org

> Dear Matt,
>      I have used SOT. Logan and AO.  In fact I have published with Dr. Roy
> Sweat and his son, Matt who was my research asst. at Life East.  In
> epileptic
> and post traumatic head injury cases, I find AO appears to balance ascending
> reticular formation pathways to outer cortical layers (1 & 2) .  I also feel
> that
> differential pressure between right and left spinocerebellar pathways is
> improved.  QEEG of brain trauma cases shows there is major reorientation of
> dominant EEG frequencies as recorded in the 10/20 system.  One patient who
> had bouts
> of adult ADHD noted this when he was in Cat. II.  (a Life East student)
> When
> Cat II was corrected, he regained alpha frequencies which were totally
> absent
> before adjustment.  My publications are available through Today's
> Chiropractic at Life East.  The QEEG report by Dr. Cantor in Atlanta metro
> is available
> in a report I will give you with the patient's permission.
> Lasca A. Hospers, Ph.D., D.C.
> 770-425-3826


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POsted by Noel Taylor

Matt's thanks have reminded me that there is always opportunity to
learn
more.  This coming week features SORSI's annual symposium in Omaha,
NE and
SOTO-USA's annual symposium in Las Vegas, NV provide wonderful
opportunities
for those who, as I do, recognize that they still have a lot to learn.
Those of us in SOT rightly recognize that we'd be far less effective
as
doctors without the genius and over half-century of hard work of Dr.
M.B.
DeJarnette.  How many of you are taking advantage of these wonderful
teaching and fellowship gatherings?  How many of your non-SOT
colleagues
have YOU invited to go with you?  How many of you realize how tiny our
discipline is, and how easy it would be for it to disappear?

www.sorsi.com
www.sotousa.com


         --Noel

Hello all,

My name is Brandon Schultz and I'm a tri 1 student at CCC-KC.  I've done a ton
of reading of different techniques before I started school and really enjoyed
reading about SOT and it's history.  All my experience with it is theoretical,
so I was wondering if I could ask you all a couple of questions.

1)  How did you all get into doing SOT?  Past experience, exposure at school,
something else?

2)  I see some of you integrate it with different techniques (Upper Cervical
Specific, etc).  How many of you practice it all by itself and how many
integrate it into you practice with other techniques?

3)  From your experiences, what are the positives and negatives of SOT?

4)  Lastly, what kinds of clients to you see typically in your offices?  All
kinds?  Pain?   "Wellness" or general improvement of quality of life folks?

Thank you all very much for your time.  I look forward to reading your
responces.

In health
Brandon

rozeboom2 <sotchiron@...> wrote:


POsted by Noel Taylor

Matt's thanks have reminded me that there is always opportunity to
learn
more.  This coming week features SORSI's annual symposium in Omaha,
NE and
SOTO-USA's annual symposium in Las Vegas, NV provide wonderful
opportunities
for those who, as I do, recognize that they still have a lot to learn.
Those of us in SOT rightly recognize that we'd be far less effective
as
doctors without the genius and over half-century of hard work of Dr.
M.B.
DeJarnette.  How many of you are taking advantage of these wonderful
teaching and fellowship gatherings?  How many of your non-SOT
colleagues
have YOU invited to go with you?  How many of you realize how tiny our
discipline is, and how easy it would be for it to disappear?

www.sorsi.com
www.sotousa.com


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Hey Brandon,
     Be patient with responses since many of us are leaving for our seminars
this week.
        My first exposure to SOT was in chiropractic school (NYCC).  I loved
that it told me what to adjust and more importantly what not to adjust.  It
made me think and challenged me to be a better doctor.
     I am strictly a SOT doctor.  Very rarely, I may incorporate activator.
     The positives of SOT.  Its like nothing else out there.  People assume
all chiropractic is popping and cracking so to explain it to someone who
never experienced it before can sometimes be hard.  The only negative about
SOT is that people confuse it with CST (Cranial sacral therapy).
     I see all kinds of patients.  Young and old, sick and well.

Hope that helps.
Blessings
Clorinda Forte-Katz, D.C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Schultz" <barbellschultzy@...>
To: <SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] The depth and breadth of
DeJarnette SOT.


>
> Hello all,
>
> My name is Brandon Schultz and I'm a tri 1 student at CCC-KC.  I've done a
ton of reading of different techniques before I started school and really
enjoyed reading about SOT and it's history.  All my experience with it is
theoretical, so I was wondering if I could ask you all a couple of
questions.
>
> 1)  How did you all get into doing SOT?  Past experience, exposure at
school, something else?
>
> 2)  I see some of you integrate it with different techniques (Upper
Cervical Specific, etc).  How many of you practice it all by itself and how
many integrate it into you practice with other techniques?
>
> 3)  From your experiences, what are the positives and negatives of SOT?
>
> 4)  Lastly, what kinds of clients to you see typically in your offices?
All kinds?  Pain?   "Wellness" or general improvement of quality of life
folks?
>
> Thank you all very much for your time.  I look forward to reading your
responces.
>
> In health
> Brandon
>
> rozeboom2 <sotchiron@...> wrote:
>
>
> POsted by Noel Taylor
>
> Matt's thanks have reminded me that there is always opportunity to
> learn
> more.  This coming week features SORSI's annual symposium in Omaha,
> NE and
> SOTO-USA's annual symposium in Las Vegas, NV provide wonderful
> opportunities
> for those who, as I do, recognize that they still have a lot to learn.
> Those of us in SOT rightly recognize that we'd be far less effective
> as
> doctors without the genius and over half-century of hard work of Dr.
> M.B.
> DeJarnette.  How many of you are taking advantage of these wonderful
> teaching and fellowship gatherings?  How many of your non-SOT
> colleagues
> have YOU invited to go with you?  How many of you realize how tiny our
> discipline is, and how easy it would be for it to disappear?
>
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Hi Brandon,

1)  How did you all get into doing SOT?  Past experience, exposure at
school, something else?
>I like Clorinda am strictly a SOT Doctor. In fact, to distinguish myself in a
marketing sense, my co-workers refer to me as that. Like it or not there is a
public perception about chiropractors.  In school, there was and still is a
perception about what defines a successful practice and how many techniques you
have to know to have a successful practice. I observed what doctors were doing
and saying compared to what SOT doctors were doing and saying. The "successful"
doctor was bragging about spending $10K in advertising and SOT doctors talking
about patients driving long distances, taking handfuls of cards to give to
friends and waiting lists. I figured I could buy a lot of business cards for
that amount.

> 2)  I see some of you integrate it with different techniques (Upper
Cervical Specific, etc).  How many of you practice it all by itself and how
many integrate it into you practice with other techniques?
>I don't use any other technique other than some diversified occasionally. I had
to ask myself what the atlas would do if there was a cranial lesion of the
occiput in extension and would the atlas resubluxate if the cranial lesion(s)
weren't corrected. I couldn't tell you how many "rotator cuffs" turned out to be
viscerosomatic pain which corrected with CMRT. Use what you like and do it well.

> 3)  From your experiences, what are the positives and negatives of SOT?
>Positives: Patients respond well, refer well and you can't kick them out of the
office. Negatives: When they ask for a business card, it means they ain't taking
just one.

> 4)  Lastly, what kinds of clients to you see typically in your offices?
All kinds?  Pain?   "Wellness" or general improvement of quality of life
folks?
>All kinds but it requires little effort to convince them SOT is different and
worth their time and money. I recently had a patient return after a five year
hiatus. It seems his alopecia areata came back. That was his original complaint
after being referred in by another patient. Just SOT, Cranial and CMRT. You
never know what's going to walk in the door and with SOT, my patients and I have
the confidence to handle it.

You've still got time to get to Omaha.

Dave Peterson

-----Original Message-----
From: Clorinda and Mike <clorkatz@...>
Sent: Oct 11, 2004 7:23 AM
To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] The depth and breadth of DeJarnette
SOT.


Hey Brandon,
     Be patient with responses since many of us are leaving for our seminars
this week.
        My first exposure to SOT was in chiropractic school (NYCC).  I loved
that it told me what to adjust and more importantly what not to adjust.  It
made me think and challenged me to be a better doctor.
     I am strictly a SOT doctor.  Very rarely, I may incorporate activator.
     The positives of SOT.  Its like nothing else out there.  People assume
all chiropractic is popping and cracking so to explain it to someone who
never experienced it before can sometimes be hard.  The only negative about
SOT is that people confuse it with CST (Cranial sacral therapy).
     I see all kinds of patients.  Young and old, sick and well.

Hope that helps.
Blessings
Clorinda Forte-Katz, D.C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Schultz" <barbellschultzy@...>
To: <SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] The depth and breadth of
DeJarnette SOT.


>
> Hello all,
>
> My name is Brandon Schultz and I'm a tri 1 student at CCC-KC.  I've done a
ton of reading of different techniques before I started school and really
enjoyed reading about SOT and it's history.  All my experience with it is
theoretical, so I was wondering if I could ask you all a couple of
questions.
>
> >
> Thank you all very much for your time.  I look forward to reading your
responces.
>
> In health
> Brandon
>
> rozeboom2 <sotchiron@...> wrote:
>
>
> POsted by Noel Taylor
>
> Matt's thanks have reminded me that there is always opportunity to
> learn
> more.  This coming week features SORSI's annual symposium in Omaha,
> NE and
> SOTO-USA's annual symposium in Las Vegas, NV provide wonderful
> opportunities
> for those who, as I do, recognize that they still have a lot to learn.
> Those of us in SOT rightly recognize that we'd be far less effective
> as
> doctors without the genius and over half-century of hard work of Dr.
> M.B.
> DeJarnette.  How many of you are taking advantage of these wonderful
> teaching and fellowship gatherings?  How many of your non-SOT
> colleagues
> have YOU invited to go with you?  How many of you realize how tiny our
> discipline is, and how easy it would be for it to disappear?
>
> www.sorsi.com
> www.sotousa.com
>
>
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Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering
with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat
her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did
exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear
drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the
vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much
better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it
when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is
some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked
her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and
temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube
adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes

Michael,

How long has the loss be going on? I had a similar case with hearing loss. In
addition to what you used, I performed the First Aid Earache technique which
helped. I also found reference to a Stomach reflex causes hearing loss in some
of the earlier work. This is due to dysbiotic gas production in the
gastrointestinal tract. This patient did have a visceroviscerosomatic reflex
occuring. She had a Stomach/ICV reflex going on. This patient had a OF area 3,
line 2 with no tenderness at the tip of the TP but did have Line 3 active for
L1.

Note: Line 3 begins a cortical changes at the pedicle lamina junction due to the
stress placed on the vertebrae. It indicates a chronic dysfunction leading into
pathology.

I have had some succes with neutralizing a V-V-S reflex by sedating the
secondary visceral reflex first. I do the Line 3 neutralization, then start with
the sternal contact while monitoring tissue tension with the inferior hand. I
use about 10 pounds pressure on the sternum. Next, I do the appropriate CMRT for
that organ ending with the trap contact. Keeping my hand on the trap, I then
move directly into the primary visceral CMRT ending with the sternal contact.

Dave Peterson

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Sent: Oct 18, 2004 1:28 AM
To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Patient with hearing loss



Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering
with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat
her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did
exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear
drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the
vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much
better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it
when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is
some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked
her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and
temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube
adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes







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Dr. Hughes I don't know how to fix what you got going
but I do know a practioner who has dealt successfully
with similar cases. His name is Dr.Jarred Nielsen.
You can email him at jmnielsen2002@...

He will help guaranteed
--- Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@...> wrote:

>
> Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has
> been suffering
> with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a
> chance to treat
> her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the
> ossicles and did
> exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably
> scarring her ear
> drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning
> fork test on the
> vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear
> the sound much
> better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could
> hardly hear it
> when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating
> that their is
> some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.
> I have blocked
> her and have performed some cranial
> adjustments(occipital and
> temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and
> eustachian tube
> adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions of
> anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
>
>
>
>


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>

>Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering

>with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat

>her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did

>exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear

>drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the

>vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much

>better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it

>when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is

>some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked

>her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and

>temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube

>adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of

>anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes

>

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http://www.wcanews.com/archives/2004/oct13b.htm

This is my first and probably last mass email that is
involved with politics.  AS a health care provider, I
am obligated to pass along this sort of news.  This
summer the White House sponsored bill banning any
lawsuits against what the FDA terms "scientific."
That means if you or your family is hurt by a drug the
FDA has researched and approved, you cannot sue the
FDA.
The Bush administration explained that the cost of
lawsuits are the reason drugs are so expensive.
However, this article is just one of many stories of
how the dangers of some so called "scientific" drugs
may ultimately be "on the ballot" this November.
Do your own research before you vote.
Do pass this on to anyone you know on statin drugs,
and look on http://www.mercola.com for more like
articles and alternative solutions for health.

Dr. Michael Hughes:
If you hear from Dr. J. Nielsen, would you, please, share his advice with the
SOT Forum?
Thanks,
Alice B. Elrod, DC


Katie Nielsen <anela109@...> wrote:
Dr. Hughes I don't know how to fix what you got going
but I do know a practioner who has dealt successfully
with similar cases. His name is Dr.Jarred Nielsen.
You can email him at jmnielsen2002@...

He will help guaranteed
--- Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@...> wrote:

>
> Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has
> been suffering
> with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a
> chance to treat
> her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the
> ossicles and did
> exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably
> scarring her ear
> drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning
> fork test on the
> vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear
> the sound much
> better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could
> hardly hear it
> when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating
> that their is
> some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.
> I have blocked
> her and have performed some cranial
> adjustments(occipital and
> temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and
> eustachian tube
> adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions of
> anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
>
>
>
>


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Dear SORSI docs,

Does anyone have a reference for treating the hiccups?
My patient's husband, mid-50's, type II diabetic, overweight, high current
stress level, has had hiccups for 1 1/2 weeks.   The doctors at Kaiser have done
all kinds of testing, CT scan, etc., only found a slightly enlarged heart.
They put him on Thorazine so he could sleep.

My first thoughts were obviously that he is a CMRT candidate, and the psoas.

Any manual references or experiences would be helpful.   He is not currently
my patient, but may be in the future.

Thanks,

Jocelyn Kirnak, D.C.
(503) 335-0449


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Believe it or not, I have a perfect batting average with simple, manual
diaphragm release, and some attention to the lung meridian (apologies
for the non-SOT reference) through AK testing and treatment of the
alarm point and sedation point. I have not yet seen a case of the
hiccups I have not been able to stop immediately with these procedures.

Granted, though, I have not seen a case that lasted for 1 1/2 weeks. So
there might be something more involved at play here. But then again,
there may not be.

Good luck!

Adrian P. Larsen, D.C.


On Oct 20, 2004, at 2:11 PM, jocelynkdc@... wrote:

>
> Dear SORSI docs,
>
> Does anyone have a reference for treating the hiccups?
> My patient's husband, mid-50's, type II diabetic, overweight, high
> current
> stress level, has had hiccups for 1 1/2 weeks.   The doctors at Kaiser
> have done
> all kinds of testing, CT scan, etc., only found a slightly enlarged
> heart.
> They put him on Thorazine so he could sleep.
>
> My first thoughts were obviously that he is a CMRT candidate, and the
> psoas.
>
> Any manual references or experiences would be helpful.   He is not
> currently
> my patient, but may be in the future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jocelyn Kirnak, D.C.
> (503) 335-0449
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Dr. Dave,

Her hearing loss has been going on for approximately 6 months.
I just started studying CMRT for a few months now, and am not
familiar with it all yet, so I am not entirely sure of what you mean
by V-V-S reflex.  Would that pertain to, for the example that you
state, an area 3/line 2 fibre that involves both T5 and L1, rather
than one or the other?

Thanks,
Mike


--- In SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com, David Peterson
<bapooh@e...> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> How long has the loss be going on? I had a similar case with
hearing loss. In addition to what you used, I performed the First Aid
Earache technique which helped. I also found reference to a Stomach
reflex causes hearing loss in some of the earlier work. This is due
to dysbiotic gas production in the gastrointestinal tract. This
patient did have a visceroviscerosomatic reflex occuring. She had a
Stomach/ICV reflex going on. This patient had a OF area 3, line 2
with no tenderness at the tip of the TP but did have Line 3 active
for L1.
>
> Note: Line 3 begins a cortical changes at the pedicle lamina
junction due to the stress placed on the vertebrae. It indicates a
chronic dysfunction leading into pathology.
>
> I have had some succes with neutralizing a V-V-S reflex by sedating
the secondary visceral reflex first. I do the Line 3 neutralization,
then start with the sternal contact while monitoring tissue tension
with the inferior hand. I use about 10 pounds pressure on the
sternum. Next, I do the appropriate CMRT for that organ ending with
the trap contact. Keeping my hand on the trap, I then move directly
into the primary visceral CMRT ending with the sternal contact.
>
> Dave Peterson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@f...>
> Sent: Oct 18, 2004 1:28 AM
> To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Patient with hearing loss
>
>
>
> Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering
> with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat
> her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did
> exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear
> drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the
> vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much
> better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it
> when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is
> some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked
> her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and
> temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube
> adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
> anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

Dear Jocelyn,

I think psoas, diaphragm and T5 related CMRT as it relates to the phrenic
nerve would be a good start.   I think upper motor dysfunction can sometimes be
involved so you might have check out cranial and vagal related influences also.

Here is what Dr. DeJarnette suggested in his 1935 & 1966 First Aid book:

"This is the paper sack technique.   Place 16 lb sack over patient's head and
have him hold it together at the bottom as he breathes into the sack. Have
the patent breathe own expired carbon dioxide gas for 3 minutes. This is usually
sufficient to control most such cases.

"Severe hiccough may often be controlled by pressing firmly on neck opposite
cervicals 3-4-5 for a count of 30.   Always give carbon dioxide treatment at
T5, T10 and L2 before treating cervicals as above described.   Severe cases may
be stopped by applying ice very quickly ot the sacrum and to the abdominal
muscles.   This is a touch treatment and must be done very quickly."

If you have your chromoclast handy then, "1030A to abdomen for gas. 50 to
face and cervicals."

Charles

Charles L. Blum, DC
drcblum@...
Santa Monica, CA
www.SOTO-USA.org

>
> Dear SORSI docs,
>
> Does anyone have a reference for treating the hiccups?
> My patient's husband, mid-50's, type II diabetic, overweight, high current
> stress level, has had hiccups for 1 1/2 weeks.   The doctors at Kaiser have
> done
> all kinds of testing, CT scan, etc., only found a slightly enlarged heart.  
> They put him on Thorazine so he could sleep.
>
> My first thoughts were obviously that he is a CMRT candidate, and the
> psoas. 
>
> Any manual references or experiences would be helpful.   He is not currently
> my patient, but may be in the future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jocelyn Kirnak, D.C.
> (503) 335-0449
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Dr. Hughes,

I have had great success with ideopathic spontaneous hearing loss using an
endonasal "balloon technique" called NCR.  You can look it up on my web site
www.catalinadoc.com , under the NCR hyperlink.  Our success rate with
improving hearing loss is approx. 50-60%, and usually after the patient has
tried everything else first.  I can send you a video regarding this tech. if
you wish.  Just contact our office at (818) 841-4100 and request the NCR
packet, and we will send it right out to you.  I hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Dr. Adam D. T.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Hughes" <mrhughesdc@...>
To: <SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:39 AM
Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Re: Patient with hearing loss


>
>
> Dr. Dave,
>
> Her hearing loss has been going on for approximately 6 months.
> I just started studying CMRT for a few months now, and am not
> familiar with it all yet, so I am not entirely sure of what you mean
> by V-V-S reflex.  Would that pertain to, for the example that you
> state, an area 3/line 2 fibre that involves both T5 and L1, rather
> than one or the other?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
> --- In SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com, David Peterson
> <bapooh@e...> wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> How long has the loss be going on? I had a similar case with
> hearing loss. In addition to what you used, I performed the First Aid
> Earache technique which helped. I also found reference to a Stomach
> reflex causes hearing loss in some of the earlier work. This is due
> to dysbiotic gas production in the gastrointestinal tract. This
> patient did have a visceroviscerosomatic reflex occuring. She had a
> Stomach/ICV reflex going on. This patient had a OF area 3, line 2
> with no tenderness at the tip of the TP but did have Line 3 active
> for L1.
>>
>> Note: Line 3 begins a cortical changes at the pedicle lamina
> junction due to the stress placed on the vertebrae. It indicates a
> chronic dysfunction leading into pathology.
>>
>> I have had some succes with neutralizing a V-V-S reflex by sedating
> the secondary visceral reflex first. I do the Line 3 neutralization,
> then start with the sternal contact while monitoring tissue tension
> with the inferior hand. I use about 10 pounds pressure on the
> sternum. Next, I do the appropriate CMRT for that organ ending with
> the trap contact. Keeping my hand on the trap, I then move directly
> into the primary visceral CMRT ending with the sternal contact.
>>
>> Dave Peterson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@f...>
>> Sent: Oct 18, 2004 1:28 AM
>> To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Patient with hearing loss
>>
>>
>>
>> Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering
>> with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat
>> her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did
>> exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear
>> drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the
>> vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much
>> better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it
>> when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is
>> some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked
>> her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and
>> temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube
>> adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
>> anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

dr. j trigger point subxyphoid usually stops diaphragm spasm.use steady
pressure + deep breathing into that area. w.graves d.o.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jocelynkdc@...>
To: <SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 3:11 PM
Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] hiccups


>
> Dear SORSI docs,
>
> Does anyone have a reference for treating the hiccups?
> My patient's husband, mid-50's, type II diabetic, overweight, high current
> stress level, has had hiccups for 1 1/2 weeks.   The doctors at Kaiser
> have done
> all kinds of testing, CT scan, etc., only found a slightly enlarged heart.
> They put him on Thorazine so he could sleep.
>
> My first thoughts were obviously that he is a CMRT candidate, and the
> psoas.
>
> Any manual references or experiences would be helpful.   He is not
> currently
> my patient, but may be in the future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jocelyn Kirnak, D.C.
> (503) 335-0449
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In the Vasomotor book, recently republished Dr. De Jarnette wrote about
hearing problems be caused by ileocecal valve problems. I have found
this is a viscero (stomach) - viscero (ICV) - somato (ear) reflex. It's
not just a simple matter of the ICV being either shut or closed
(depending upon which thought process a person ascribes to). Rather it
is a gas problem that starts with the digestive chemistry of the stomach
being inadequate to properly digest the food causing fermentation and
putrification (gas being the by-product) blowing the colon up like a
balloon.

This requires repairing the structure (Category II) and restoring the
digestive chemistry with Betaine HCl. Enzymatic therapy although
effective is the third step in the digestive process. The acid in the
stomach is necessary for proper digestion. It is the lack of acid that
fails to stimulate the release of enzymes.

Some would say it doesn't matter. However, remember chemistry class in
college. When you did a reaction to break stuff down, it required the
proper temperature, pH, dilution and mixing in the proper pH and amount
of acid/base for each stage of the process. If you missed a step, the
reaction didn't occur.

This will also require the use of the CO2 technique to get the gas out
of the system.

Dr. Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hughes [mailto:mrhughesdc@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:39 AM
To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Re: Patient with hearing loss



Dr. Dave,

Her hearing loss has been going on for approximately 6 months.
I just started studying CMRT for a few months now, and am not
familiar with it all yet, so I am not entirely sure of what you mean
by V-V-S reflex.  Would that pertain to, for the example that you
state, an area 3/line 2 fibre that involves both T5 and L1, rather
than one or the other?

Thanks,
Mike


--- In SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com, David Peterson
<bapooh@e...> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> How long has the loss be going on? I had a similar case with
hearing loss. In addition to what you used, I performed the First Aid
Earache technique which helped. I also found reference to a Stomach
reflex causes hearing loss in some of the earlier work. This is due
to dysbiotic gas production in the gastrointestinal tract. This
patient did have a visceroviscerosomatic reflex occuring. She had a
Stomach/ICV reflex going on. This patient had a OF area 3, line 2
with no tenderness at the tip of the TP but did have Line 3 active
for L1.
>
> Note: Line 3 begins a cortical changes at the pedicle lamina
junction due to the stress placed on the vertebrae. It indicates a
chronic dysfunction leading into pathology.
>
> I have had some succes with neutralizing a V-V-S reflex by sedating
the secondary visceral reflex first. I do the Line 3 neutralization,
then start with the sternal contact while monitoring tissue tension
with the inferior hand. I use about 10 pounds pressure on the
sternum. Next, I do the appropriate CMRT for that organ ending with
the trap contact. Keeping my hand on the trap, I then move directly
into the primary visceral CMRT ending with the sternal contact.
>
> Dave Peterson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@f...>
> Sent: Oct 18, 2004 1:28 AM
> To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Patient with hearing loss
>
>
>
> Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering
> with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat
> her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did
> exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear
> drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the
> vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much
> better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it
> when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is
> some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked
> her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and
> temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube
> adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
> anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links







Yahoo! Groups Links

Dear Larsen,

Can you please be more specific about the point? Further more, would your
method treat the inflammation of the diaphragm nerve due to auto immune,
virus or cancer invasions?

But no matter what, you did a great job on hiccups. I would hope you can
share your secrete with the group. If you do, I share some of mine with you.

Beijing Men, OMD, L.Ac.
206.440.1634

>From: Adrian Larsen <alarsen@...>
>Reply-To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] hiccups
>Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:10:53 -0600
>
>
>Believe it or not, I have a perfect batting average with simple, manual
>diaphragm release, and some attention to the lung meridian (apologies
>for the non-SOT reference) through AK testing and treatment of the
>alarm point and sedation point. I have not yet seen a case of the
>hiccups I have not been able to stop immediately with these procedures.
>
>Granted, though, I have not seen a case that lasted for 1 1/2 weeks. So
>there might be something more involved at play here. But then again,
>there may not be.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Adrian P. Larsen, D.C.
>
>
>On Oct 20, 2004, at 2:11 PM, jocelynkdc@... wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear SORSI docs,
> >
> > Does anyone have a reference for treating the hiccups?
> > My patient's husband, mid-50's, type II diabetic, overweight, high
> > current
> > stress level, has had hiccups for 1 1/2 weeks.   The doctors at Kaiser
> > have done
> > all kinds of testing, CT scan, etc., only found a slightly enlarged
> > heart.
> > They put him on Thorazine so he could sleep.
> >
> > My first thoughts were obviously that he is a CMRT candidate, and the
> > psoas.
> >
> > Any manual references or experiences would be helpful.   He is not
> > currently
> > my patient, but may be in the future.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jocelyn Kirnak, D.C.
> > (503) 335-0449
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Dear Dr. Hughes,

In Chinese medicine, we use acupuncture to stimulate the meridians around
the audio nerves, plus herbal medicine. Usually a large dosage of Huang Qi
is very helpful depending upon patient's general conditions.

Beijing Men, OMD, L.Ac.
206.440.1634

>From: "alice b elrod, d.c." <alice_be@...>
>Reply-To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Patient with hearing loss
>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Dr. Michael Hughes:
>If you hear from Dr. J. Nielsen, would you, please, share his advice with
>the SOT Forum?
>Thanks,
>Alice B. Elrod, DC
>
>
>Katie Nielsen <anela109@...> wrote:
>Dr. Hughes I don't know how to fix what you got going
>but I do know a practioner who has dealt successfully
>with similar cases. His name is Dr.Jarred Nielsen.
>You can email him at jmnielsen2002@...
>
>He will help guaranteed
>--- Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has
> > been suffering
> > with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a
> > chance to treat
> > her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the
> > ossicles and did
> > exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably
> > scarring her ear
> > drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning
> > fork test on the
> > vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear
> > the sound much
> > better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could
> > hardly hear it
> > when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating
> > that their is
> > some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.
> > I have blocked
> > her and have performed some cranial
> > adjustments(occipital and
> > temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and
> > eustachian tube
> > adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any
> > suggestions of
> > anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] hiccups



Dear Jocelyn,

I think psoas, diaphragm and T5 related CMRT as it relates to the phrenic
nerve would be a good start.   I think upper motor dysfunction can sometimes
be
involved so you might have check out cranial and vagal related influences
also.

Here is what Dr. DeJarnette suggested in his 1935 & 1966 First Aid book:

"This is the paper sack technique.   Place 16 lb sack over patient's head
and
have him hold it together at the bottom as he breathes into the sack. Have
the patent breathe own expired carbon dioxide gas for 3 minutes. This is
usually
sufficient to control most such cases.

"Severe hiccough may often be controlled by pressing firmly on neck opposite
cervicals 3-4-5 for a count of 30.   Always give carbon dioxide treatment at
T5, T10 and L2 before treating cervicals as above described.   Severe cases
may
be stopped by applying ice very quickly ot the sacrum and to the abdominal
muscles.   This is a touch treatment and must be done very quickly."

If you have your chromoclast handy then, "1030A to abdomen for gas. 50 to
face and cervicals."

Charles

Charles L. Blum, DC
drcblum@...
Santa Monica, CA
www.SOTO-USA.org

>
> Dear SORSI docs,
>
> Does anyone have a reference for treating the hiccups?
> My patient's husband, mid-50's, type II diabetic, overweight, high current
> stress level, has had hiccups for 1 1/2 weeks. The doctors at Kaiser have
> done
> all kinds of testing, CT scan, etc., only found a slightly enlarged heart.
> They put him on Thorazine so he could sleep.
>
> My first thoughts were obviously that he is a CMRT candidate, and the
> psoas.
>
> Any manual references or experiences would be helpful. He is not currently
> my patient, but may be in the future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jocelyn Kirnak, D.C.
> (503) 335-0449
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Dr. Adam,

I have checked into that technique in the past at the request of a prospective
patient and, unfortunately, it is not within the scope of practice for
chiropractic in Washington State.

Thanks,
Mike

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: The Doc
   To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:25 PM
   Subject: Re: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Re: Patient with hearing loss


   Dear Dr. Hughes,

   I have had great success with ideopathic spontaneous hearing loss using an
   endonasal "balloon technique" called NCR.  You can look it up on my web site
   www.catalinadoc.com , under the NCR hyperlink.  Our success rate with
   improving hearing loss is approx. 50-60%, and usually after the patient has
   tried everything else first.  I can send you a video regarding this tech. if
   you wish.  Just contact our office at (818) 841-4100 and request the NCR
   packet, and we will send it right out to you.  I hope this helps.

   Sincerely,

   Dr. Adam D. T.

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Michael Hughes" <mrhughesdc@...>
   To: <SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:39 AM
   Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Re: Patient with hearing loss


   >
   >
   > Dr. Dave,
   >
   > Her hearing loss has been going on for approximately 6 months.
   > I just started studying CMRT for a few months now, and am not
   > familiar with it all yet, so I am not entirely sure of what you mean
   > by V-V-S reflex.  Would that pertain to, for the example that you
   > state, an area 3/line 2 fibre that involves both T5 and L1, rather
   > than one or the other?
   >
   > Thanks,
   > Mike
   >
   >
   > --- In SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com, David Peterson
   > <bapooh@e...> wrote:
   >> Michael,
   >>
   >> How long has the loss be going on? I had a similar case with
   > hearing loss. In addition to what you used, I performed the First Aid
   > Earache technique which helped. I also found reference to a Stomach
   > reflex causes hearing loss in some of the earlier work. This is due
   > to dysbiotic gas production in the gastrointestinal tract. This
   > patient did have a visceroviscerosomatic reflex occuring. She had a
   > Stomach/ICV reflex going on. This patient had a OF area 3, line 2
   > with no tenderness at the tip of the TP but did have Line 3 active
   > for L1.
   >>
   >> Note: Line 3 begins a cortical changes at the pedicle lamina
   > junction due to the stress placed on the vertebrae. It indicates a
   > chronic dysfunction leading into pathology.
   >>
   >> I have had some succes with neutralizing a V-V-S reflex by sedating
   > the secondary visceral reflex first. I do the Line 3 neutralization,
   > then start with the sternal contact while monitoring tissue tension
   > with the inferior hand. I use about 10 pounds pressure on the
   > sternum. Next, I do the appropriate CMRT for that organ ending with
   > the trap contact. Keeping my hand on the trap, I then move directly
   > into the primary visceral CMRT ending with the sternal contact.
   >>
   >> Dave Peterson
   >>
   >> -----Original Message-----
   >> From: Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@f...>
   >> Sent: Oct 18, 2004 1:28 AM
   >> To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
   >> Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Patient with hearing loss
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering
   >> with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat
   >> her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did
   >> exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear
   >> drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the
   >> vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much
   >> better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it
   >> when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is
   >> some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked
   >> her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and
   >> temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube
   >> adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
   >> anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
   >>
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Dr. Dave,

Makes sense to me.  Where is the DeJarnette Vasomotor book available?  If I
recall correctly, the CO2 is the T5, T10, L2 technique (?).

Thanks,
Mike

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: David Peterson
   To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:20 PM
   Subject: RE: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Re: Patient with hearing loss


   In the Vasomotor book, recently republished Dr. De Jarnette wrote about
   hearing problems be caused by ileocecal valve problems. I have found
   this is a viscero (stomach) - viscero (ICV) - somato (ear) reflex. It's
   not just a simple matter of the ICV being either shut or closed
   (depending upon which thought process a person ascribes to). Rather it
   is a gas problem that starts with the digestive chemistry of the stomach
   being inadequate to properly digest the food causing fermentation and
   putrification (gas being the by-product) blowing the colon up like a
   balloon.

   This requires repairing the structure (Category II) and restoring the
   digestive chemistry with Betaine HCl. Enzymatic therapy although
   effective is the third step in the digestive process. The acid in the
   stomach is necessary for proper digestion. It is the lack of acid that
   fails to stimulate the release of enzymes.

   Some would say it doesn't matter. However, remember chemistry class in
   college. When you did a reaction to break stuff down, it required the
   proper temperature, pH, dilution and mixing in the proper pH and amount
   of acid/base for each stage of the process. If you missed a step, the
   reaction didn't occur.

   This will also require the use of the CO2 technique to get the gas out
   of the system.

   Dr. Dave

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Michael Hughes [mailto:mrhughesdc@...]
   Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:39 AM
   To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Re: Patient with hearing loss



   Dr. Dave,

   Her hearing loss has been going on for approximately 6 months.
   I just started studying CMRT for a few months now, and am not
   familiar with it all yet, so I am not entirely sure of what you mean
   by V-V-S reflex.  Would that pertain to, for the example that you
   state, an area 3/line 2 fibre that involves both T5 and L1, rather
   than one or the other?

   Thanks,
   Mike


   --- In SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com, David Peterson
   <bapooh@e...> wrote:
   > Michael,
   >
   > How long has the loss be going on? I had a similar case with
   hearing loss. In addition to what you used, I performed the First Aid
   Earache technique which helped. I also found reference to a Stomach
   reflex causes hearing loss in some of the earlier work. This is due
   to dysbiotic gas production in the gastrointestinal tract. This
   patient did have a visceroviscerosomatic reflex occuring. She had a
   Stomach/ICV reflex going on. This patient had a OF area 3, line 2
   with no tenderness at the tip of the TP but did have Line 3 active
   for L1.
   >
   > Note: Line 3 begins a cortical changes at the pedicle lamina
   junction due to the stress placed on the vertebrae. It indicates a
   chronic dysfunction leading into pathology.
   >
   > I have had some succes with neutralizing a V-V-S reflex by sedating
   the secondary visceral reflex first. I do the Line 3 neutralization,
   then start with the sternal contact while monitoring tissue tension
   with the inferior hand. I use about 10 pounds pressure on the
   sternum. Next, I do the appropriate CMRT for that organ ending with
   the trap contact. Keeping my hand on the trap, I then move directly
   into the primary visceral CMRT ending with the sternal contact.
   >
   > Dave Peterson
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Michael Hughes <mrhughesdc@f...>
   > Sent: Oct 18, 2004 1:28 AM
   > To: SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com
   > Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] Patient with hearing loss
   >
   >
   >
   > Fellow SOT practitioners - I have a patient who has been suffering
   > with hearing loss in her left ear.  Before I had a chance to treat
   > her, an MD thought it might be fusion of the ossicles and did
   > exploratory surgery, but found nothing - probably scarring her ear
   > drum in the process.  When I performed the tuning fork test on the
   > vertex of her head, she stated that she could hear the sound much
   > better in the ear with the hearing loss, but could hardly hear it
   > when placed just outside her ear opening, indicating that their is
   > some kind of obstruction rather than nerve damage.  I have blocked
   > her and have performed some cranial adjustments(occipital and
   > temporal were indicated), TMJ adjustments, and eustachian tube
   > adjustments, but to no avail.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
   > anything else I can check?  Thanks - Michael Hughes
   >
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Hi Jocelyn!

My experience with hiccups has been that Category 2 pelvic blocking is
usually indicated. If this correction does not clear the tight psoas, then
manual correction, even possibly a kidney lift on the tight psoas side is
indicated, and check and correction of a pseudo hiatal hernia (most often
found with a Category 2). The ultimate goal is to free the diaphragm from
psoas pull and stomach encroachment.

It has worked 100% of the time for me. As with most symptom expressions,
there may be other useful techniques and findings from other practitioners.
I eagerly await other responses.

Doc Hand
----- Original Message -----
From: <jocelynkdc@...>
To: <SacroOccipitalTechnicForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:11 PM
Subject: [SacroOccipitalTechnicForum] hiccups


>
> Dear SORSI docs,
>
> Does anyone have a reference for treating the hiccups?
> My patient's husband, mid-50's, type II diabetic, overweight, high current
> stress level, has had hiccups for 1 1/2 weeks.   The doctors at Kaiser
> have done
> all kinds of testing, CT scan, etc., only found a slightly enlarged heart.
> They put him on Thorazine so he could sleep.
>
> My first thoughts were obviously that he is a CMRT candidate, and the
> psoas.
>
> Any manual references or experiences would be helpful.   He is not
> currently
> my patient, but may be in the future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jocelyn Kirnak, D.C.
> (503) 335-0449
>
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Hi Dave,

Can you go through the biological plausibility regarding the relationship of
the ICV, indigestion and hearing loss?   I can't seem to follow the
relationship.

Charles

>
> In the Vasomotor book, recently republished Dr. De Jarnette wrote about
> hearing problems be caused by ileocecal valve problems. I have found
> this is a viscero (stomach) - viscero (ICV) - somato (ear) reflex. It's
> not just a simple matter of the ICV being either shut or closed
> (depending upon which thought process a person ascribes to). Rather it
> is a gas problem that starts with the digestive chemistry of the stomach
> being inadequate to properly digest the food causing fermentation and
> putrification (gas being the by-product) blowing the colon up like a
> balloon.
>
> This requires repairing the structure (Category II) and restoring the
> digestive chemistry with Betaine HCl. Enzymatic therapy although
> effective is the third step in the digestive process. The acid in the
> stomach is necessary for proper digestion. It is the lack of acid that
> fails to stimulate the release of enzymes.
>
> Some would say it doesn't matter. However, remember chemistry class in
> college. When you did a reaction to break stuff down, it required the
> proper temperature, pH, dilution and mixing in the proper pH and amount
> of acid/base for each stage of the process. If you missed a step, the
> reaction didn't occur.
>
> This will also require the use of the CO2 technique to get the gas out
> of the system.
>
> Dr. Dave
>





Charles L. Blum, DC
drcblum@...
Santa Monica, CA
www.SOTO-USA.org


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Noel,

You mean you don't have a chromoclast?   {;-)

Get with the times.

Actually I guess Dr. DeJarnette used the chromoclast and color therapy for
his first aid and other procedures.   Sure would have been great to see a
chromoclast in action.

Charles

>
> Charles:
>
> What colors are 1030 Angstroms and 50 Angstroms?  Is 50 in non-visible
> UV?
>
>         --Noel
>





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www.SOTO-USA.org


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