This is my personal opinion only. I have noticed that US based recruiters in
general, do not pay well (UK standards) in the GOM area anyway. The main
requiremment is a state registered Paramedic, with a current ACLS certificate.
In general, salaries would depend on how much the client company is willing to
pay...then again, sometimes not and this is where it is up to you to see how
much you can squeeze out of a company.

Whether you are a nurse with a degree, ex-military medic or paramedic, unless
you have a valid Offshore Medic Certificate (quite expensive), you will not be
allowed to work for most UK recruitment companies. Some of the course modules
consist of clinical medicine, which Paramedic courses do not teach. In the UK,
they will not accept a Paramedic offshore, but they would in the GOM.

If you do not have sufficient equipment on board, it is the fault of the client
company. You can take the horse to the water...It all depend on what they are
willing to spend, and sometimes just enough to cover legislation. I have worked
for Frontier in the past, and if they can supply your installation with all the
equipment you desire (even a sauna), they will not hesitate, as they do have
their own medical supply company.

Just make sure your end is covered, meaning that you report or highlight, in
writing, any short-comming with your equipment status.

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am sure we would all be very interested to know who
sourced,and who provided the kit.
Fraser

--- "peter.dryden" <peter.dryden@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> For those of you wishing to work in Libya - a
> warning note. Recently
> I have just spent six weeks working there as a
> Remote Paramedic. Now
> initially the organisation that myself and two other
> colleagues
> (different sites and crews) were led to believe that
> the work would
> be prolonged.
>
> On arrival, the standards are SHOCKINGLY poor. Now
> when I say poor,
> really, that is the very best that they can be
> described as. We were
> briefed that we should advise of any discrepancies
> that existed in
> the equiment provided and remedy a list for order.
> This was done. Now
> ordering was not particularly extensive nor
> excessive by any means.
> Still, nonetheless, it was laughed at "You can order
> what you like
> but don't expect it soon or even to be what you
> ordered" was the
> comment, literaly word for word.
>
> "This is Libya" is the standard reply. So how is
> this? Well the
> situation is quite simple, if the items can be
> ordered locally they
> MUST be purchased locally, even if the quality is
> that of a really
> useless chea and nasty import from China or other
> 'copytastic'
> country. We all know the scenario of dud kit.
>
> Items ordered take weeks, usually measures in 5+
> such weeks to arrive.
> The items that I ordered involved i.v. meds such as
> Salbutamol,
> Haloperidol, Dexamethasone, Phenergan, and other
> such items,
> specifically stated in mg/ml format as well as
> Perfit ACE adjustable
> cervicall collars and a Macintosh size 3 and 4
> Laryngoscope blades
> with corresponding handle.
>
> So what arrived, well after 5 1/2 weeks two
> orthopaedic thoracic
> anchored head support braces arrived - now that's
> the ones with the
> big metal flat bar right over the midline of the
> neck (great for
> surgical airways then - aem - NO), 240 Salbutamol
> tablets, yes that's
> mg/ml for i.v. use so they send tablets. Perhaps the
> worst example,
> after the collars, is the ring cutter ordered (high
> liklehood of
> finger avulsion injuries from the mechanics) and
> what arrived, a pair
> of - NAIL CUTTERS - just what I needed then!
>
> The list is endless. What should have costed less
> than £450GBP if
> purchaesd in the U.K. cost £4029.25 based on 10052
> Libyan Dinars
> converted at xe.com
>
> Not only did the items arrive incorrect but the
> original list was
> edited to reflect nothing like what I needed. When
> the list that cost
> that amazing £4029.25 arrived as a manifest, MOST of
> the items
> charged for were missing.
>
> So what is the punchline here? Well there exists
> significant
> corruption in Libya, really extensive, from paying
> bags of money to
> get kit through customs, to being forced to use
> really poor copied
> kit from ultra cheap sources and expecting it to
> take MONTHS for kit
> that cannot be sourced locally to be provided.
>
> Attitudes towards the Paramedics in-situ are poor.
> Safety is NOT a
> real priority there although they talk as though it
> really is.
>
> If you are considering an opportunity in Libya,
> really do the
> following: Get your own kit, take everything you
> need (but remember
> drug import to Libya is VERY akward and needs great
> care). Organise
> your company to accept full and unequovical
> liability for any kit
> that is confiscated by the Libyan Customs staff -
> who make the rules
> up as they go, or get a "facilitator" to be there
> when you get there
> to meet you AND your kit - PRE-CUSTOMS.
>
> Exect attitudes towards ordering to be lax, kit to
> take ages, and
> above all, expect nothing like what you ordered (no
> matter how clear
> it is detailed on the order) to arrive and expect
> attitudes towards
> you to be seen as a "tick in the box".
>
> Obviously, there will be some exceptions to this,
> however "This is
> Libya" will recur again and again and you will
> mostly be seen as a
> costly accessory to allow a company to make the
> statement "We have
> Paramedics in place". Looks good on a profile, but
> if you don't get
> or have the kit to do your job, remember - People on
> site will EXPECT
> Paramedic level support, if you don't have the kit -
> hell that's not
> their problem, just fix the guy - what with five
> months out of date
> fluids, no monitoring, wrong drugs, no major trauma
> dressings and so
> on, Oh and a five hour off road trip to manage the
> patient, just to
> get to the first airfield.
>
> Sure guys, opportunities exist out there, but do
> EXTENSIVE pre-
> deployment work and get everything in writing. If
> they will not
> provide an accurate list of provided kit, in writing
> and assurances
> of the support logistics, again in writing, forget
> it, they are
> likely to be unable to support you.
>
> Been there - done that and really worried about
> those guys looking to
> go out there.
>
> The best on - Laryngoscope arrived, fantastic,
> second hand, broken
> (yes really physically broken) and ..... PAEDIATRIC
> blades, you know
> the really tiny ones. Oh well blind digital
> intubation it is then,
> hang on, need tubes to do that!
>
> Pete
>
>
>


Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Good thoughts and Tips of the trade, At least you can
express your views on how things are over there and
warm us remote medics about it, when I did it with UK
company very cheep in wages one of the  RATS or
bootlickers forwarded my complaint to management, (ask
me if I care) I think on this forum we should be able
to express or view on jobs past jobs and employers, to
keep us all informed of what is happening , company's
, danger areas etc and to vent if we need to, we have
been stressed out one time or the other and it Great
to have a site like this and support form  for fellow
remote medics when you are at your boiling pointto
talk to and give you there advise.
  In the USA we have sort of the same thing where if
one person goes to work for a company and it turns out
bad he or she will tell us the conditions of the barge
rig etc and who they were working for  but when it
comes back several times for other medic working for
the same company then it is goo, for you don't want to
go to an unsafe area or company or work with sub
standard equipment, here in the USA they are Law suit
happy (JONES ACT) the UK is following close behind and
guess who get sued if a company sends you out as a
Paramedic not a basic but medic and you don't have the
proper equipment and don't walk away and something
goes wrong  you get sued and loose your license that's
just the way it goes in the GOM and Texas I sit on the
EMS board of Texas and we here horror stories everyday
about lack of equipment, so all I can tell the USA
medics is have it on paper that you requested it so
when it hits the fan you can say I requested it but
they refused

--- andrewgough <andrewgough@...> wrote:

> Would you mind taking me off your mailing list. Ill
> monitor the mesages for the web site.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy Gough
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: peter.dryden
>   To: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:13 PM
>   Subject: [Remotemedics.co.uk] Paramedic Work in
> Libya
>
>
>   Hello everyone,
>
>   For those of you wishing to work in Libya - a
> warning note. Recently
>   I have just spent six weeks working there as a
> Remote Paramedic. Now
>   initially the organisation that myself and two
> other colleagues
>   (different sites and crews) were led to believe
> that the work would
>   be prolonged.
>
>   On arrival, the standards are SHOCKINGLY poor. Now
> when I say poor,
>   really, that is the very best that they can be
> described as. We were
>   briefed that we should advise of any discrepancies
> that existed in
>   the equiment provided and remedy a list for order.
> This was done. Now
>   ordering was not particularly extensive nor
> excessive by any means.
>   Still, nonetheless, it was laughed at "You can
> order what you like
>   but don't expect it soon or even to be what you
> ordered" was the
>   comment, literaly word for word.
>
>   "This is Libya" is the standard reply. So how is
> this? Well the
>   situation is quite simple, if the items can be
> ordered locally they
>   MUST be purchased locally, even if the quality is
> that of a really
>   useless chea and nasty import from China or other
> 'copytastic'
>   country. We all know the scenario of dud kit.
>
>   Items ordered take weeks, usually measures in 5+
> such weeks to arrive.
>   The items that I ordered involved i.v. meds such
> as Salbutamol,
>   Haloperidol, Dexamethasone, Phenergan, and other
> such items,
>   specifically stated in mg/ml format as well as
> Perfit ACE adjustable
>   cervicall collars and a Macintosh size 3 and 4
> Laryngoscope blades
>   with corresponding handle.
>
>   So what arrived, well after 5 1/2 weeks two
> orthopaedic thoracic
>   anchored head support braces arrived - now that's
> the ones with the
>   big metal flat bar right over the midline of the
> neck (great for
>   surgical airways then - aem - NO), 240 Salbutamol
> tablets, yes that's
>   mg/ml for i.v. use so they send tablets. Perhaps
> the worst example,
>   after the collars, is the ring cutter ordered
> (high liklehood of
>   finger avulsion injuries from the mechanics) and
> what arrived, a pair
>   of - NAIL CUTTERS - just what I needed then!
>
>   The list is endless. What should have costed less
> than £450GBP if
>   purchaesd in the U.K. cost £4029.25 based on 10052
> Libyan Dinars
>   converted at xe.com
>
>   Not only did the items arrive incorrect but the
> original list was
>   edited to reflect nothing like what I needed. When
> the list that cost
>   that amazing £4029.25 arrived as a manifest, MOST
> of the items
>   charged for were missing.
>
>   So what is the punchline here? Well there exists
> significant
>   corruption in Libya, really extensive, from paying
> bags of money to
>   get kit through customs, to being forced to use
> really poor copied
>   kit from ultra cheap sources and expecting it to
> take MONTHS for kit
>   that cannot be sourced locally to be provided.
>
>   Attitudes towards the Paramedics in-situ are poor.
> Safety is NOT a
>   real priority there although they talk as though
> it really is.
>
>   If you are considering an opportunity in Libya,
> really do the
>   following: Get your own kit, take everything you
> need (but remember
>   drug import to Libya is VERY akward and needs
> great care). Organise
>   your company to accept full and unequovical
> liability for any kit
>   that is confiscated by the Libyan Customs staff -
> who make the rules
>   up as they go, or get a "facilitator" to be there
> when you get there
>   to meet you AND your kit - PRE-CUSTOMS.
>
>   Exect attitudes towards ordering to be lax, kit to
> take ages, and
>   above all, expect nothing like what you ordered
> (no matter how clear
>   it is detailed on the order) to arrive and expect
> attitudes towards
>   you to be seen as a "tick in the box".
>
>   Obviously, there will be some exceptions to this,
> however "This is
>   Libya" will recur again and again and you will
> mostly be seen as a
>   costly accessory to allow a company to make the
> statement "We have
>   Paramedics in place". Looks good on a profile, but
> if you don't get
>   or have the kit to do your job, remember - People
> on site will EXPECT
>   Paramedic level support, if you don't have the kit
> - hell that's not
>   their problem, just fix the guy - what with five
> months out of date
>   fluids, no monitoring, wrong drugs, no major
> trauma dressings and so
>   on, Oh and a five hour off road trip to manage the
> patient, just to
>   get to the first airfield.
>
>   Sure guys, opportunities exist out there, but do
> EXTENSIVE pre-
>   deployment work and get everything in writing. If
> they will not
>   provide an accurate list of provided kit, in
> writing and assurances
>   of the support logistics, again in writing, forget
> it, they are
>   likely to be unable to support you.
>
>   Been there - done that and really worried about
> those guys looking to
>   go out there.
>
>   The best on - Laryngoscope arrived, fantastic,
> second hand, broken
>   (yes really physically broken) and .....
> PAEDIATRIC blades, you know
>   the really tiny ones. Oh well blind digital
> intubation it is then,
>   hang on, need tubes to do that!
>
>   Pete
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>




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I was the companies Senior Medic (FMS that is) for a few years and
my advice to you is go and find another company to work for.

FMS are well know for poor pay, crap support and allowing
personality to conflict with professional.

Scan the web as there are plenty of other companies out there that
treat people corrcetly and pay a going wage for a professional medic.

Good luck - Roger S

--- In RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com, Boom Jackson
<macrattas@...> wrote:
>
> Hello All:
> Just needed so advise, I went to work for Frontier
> Medical service for 5 weeks, well I did my tour and
> even got a letter from the Capt of the boat telling me
> what a good job I did (shocked).
> Well during the trip FMS is telling me that have all
> these assignment's lined up for me, and when I finish
> my tour , it would be a quick turn around, well then
> they got the GOM contract and they wanted me to  go
> work it for a lot less than any GOM  medic would work
> for, I explained that when working in USA waters you
> had better have all your ACLS equipment in line
> because if you fly off with a chest pain or anything
> that's the first thing they will be looking for when
> you land and the hospital and that no medic would risk
> his cert by no adhering to the rules of being a medic
> weather it be offshore or on an ambulance and will
> want the right equipment to work with. they were
> offering 250 USD a day the going rate is 300-300 a day
> +health benefits so I said no I will not work for that
> price No NHS here Guys which we had it but it does not
> look like it will ever happen.
> Well then when I am asking them if there are any
> assignment's other than the GOM they say NO, I look at
> there web site and guess what recruiting medics for
> the GOM and other places, it the other places I want
> to go to, there I can work under there medical control
> and not worry about loosing my license for not having
> the right equipment.
> Bottom any advise for this out of work Medic All
> comments welcome
> Regards
> Fred
>
>
>
>
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Would you mind taking me off your mailing list. Ill monitor the mesages for the
web site.

Thanks

Andy Gough




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: peter.dryden
   To: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:13 PM
   Subject: [Remotemedics.co.uk] Paramedic Work in Libya


   Hello everyone,

   For those of you wishing to work in Libya - a warning note. Recently
   I have just spent six weeks working there as a Remote Paramedic. Now
   initially the organisation that myself and two other colleagues
   (different sites and crews) were led to believe that the work would
   be prolonged.

   On arrival, the standards are SHOCKINGLY poor. Now when I say poor,
   really, that is the very best that they can be described as. We were
   briefed that we should advise of any discrepancies that existed in
   the equiment provided and remedy a list for order. This was done. Now
   ordering was not particularly extensive nor excessive by any means.
   Still, nonetheless, it was laughed at "You can order what you like
   but don't expect it soon or even to be what you ordered" was the
   comment, literaly word for word.

   "This is Libya" is the standard reply. So how is this? Well the
   situation is quite simple, if the items can be ordered locally they
   MUST be purchased locally, even if the quality is that of a really
   useless chea and nasty import from China or other 'copytastic'
   country. We all know the scenario of dud kit.

   Items ordered take weeks, usually measures in 5+ such weeks to arrive.
   The items that I ordered involved i.v. meds such as Salbutamol,
   Haloperidol, Dexamethasone, Phenergan, and other such items,
   specifically stated in mg/ml format as well as Perfit ACE adjustable
   cervicall collars and a Macintosh size 3 and 4 Laryngoscope blades
   with corresponding handle.

   So what arrived, well after 5 1/2 weeks two orthopaedic thoracic
   anchored head support braces arrived - now that's the ones with the
   big metal flat bar right over the midline of the neck (great for
   surgical airways then - aem - NO), 240 Salbutamol tablets, yes that's
   mg/ml for i.v. use so they send tablets. Perhaps the worst example,
   after the collars, is the ring cutter ordered (high liklehood of
   finger avulsion injuries from the mechanics) and what arrived, a pair
   of - NAIL CUTTERS - just what I needed then!

   The list is endless. What should have costed less than £450GBP if
   purchaesd in the U.K. cost £4029.25 based on 10052 Libyan Dinars
   converted at xe.com

   Not only did the items arrive incorrect but the original list was
   edited to reflect nothing like what I needed. When the list that cost
   that amazing £4029.25 arrived as a manifest, MOST of the items
   charged for were missing.

   So what is the punchline here? Well there exists significant
   corruption in Libya, really extensive, from paying bags of money to
   get kit through customs, to being forced to use really poor copied
   kit from ultra cheap sources and expecting it to take MONTHS for kit
   that cannot be sourced locally to be provided.

   Attitudes towards the Paramedics in-situ are poor. Safety is NOT a
   real priority there although they talk as though it really is.

   If you are considering an opportunity in Libya, really do the
   following: Get your own kit, take everything you need (but remember
   drug import to Libya is VERY akward and needs great care). Organise
   your company to accept full and unequovical liability for any kit
   that is confiscated by the Libyan Customs staff - who make the rules
   up as they go, or get a "facilitator" to be there when you get there
   to meet you AND your kit - PRE-CUSTOMS.

   Exect attitudes towards ordering to be lax, kit to take ages, and
   above all, expect nothing like what you ordered (no matter how clear
   it is detailed on the order) to arrive and expect attitudes towards
   you to be seen as a "tick in the box".

   Obviously, there will be some exceptions to this, however "This is
   Libya" will recur again and again and you will mostly be seen as a
   costly accessory to allow a company to make the statement "We have
   Paramedics in place". Looks good on a profile, but if you don't get
   or have the kit to do your job, remember - People on site will EXPECT
   Paramedic level support, if you don't have the kit - hell that's not
   their problem, just fix the guy - what with five months out of date
   fluids, no monitoring, wrong drugs, no major trauma dressings and so
   on, Oh and a five hour off road trip to manage the patient, just to
   get to the first airfield.

   Sure guys, opportunities exist out there, but do EXTENSIVE pre-
   deployment work and get everything in writing. If they will not
   provide an accurate list of provided kit, in writing and assurances
   of the support logistics, again in writing, forget it, they are
   likely to be unable to support you.

   Been there - done that and really worried about those guys looking to
   go out there.

   The best on - Laryngoscope arrived, fantastic, second hand, broken
   (yes really physically broken) and ..... PAEDIATRIC blades, you know
   the really tiny ones. Oh well blind digital intubation it is then,
   hang on, need tubes to do that!

   Pete





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello everyone,

For those of you wishing to work in Libya - a warning note. Recently
I have just spent six weeks working there as a Remote Paramedic. Now
initially the organisation that myself and two other colleagues
(different sites and crews) were led to believe that the work would
be prolonged.

On arrival, the standards are SHOCKINGLY poor. Now when I say poor,
really, that is the very best that they can be described as. We were
briefed that we should advise of any discrepancies that existed in
the equiment provided and remedy a list for order. This was done. Now
ordering was not particularly extensive nor excessive by any means.
Still, nonetheless, it was laughed at "You can order what you like
but don't expect it soon or even to be what you ordered" was the
comment, literaly word for word.

"This is Libya" is the standard reply. So how is this? Well the
situation is quite simple, if the items can be ordered locally they
MUST be purchased locally, even if the quality is that of a really
useless chea and nasty import from China or other 'copytastic'
country. We all know the scenario of dud kit.

Items ordered take weeks, usually measures in 5+ such weeks to arrive.
The items that I ordered involved i.v. meds such as Salbutamol,
Haloperidol, Dexamethasone, Phenergan, and other such items,
specifically stated in mg/ml format as well as Perfit ACE adjustable
cervicall collars and a Macintosh size 3 and 4 Laryngoscope blades
with corresponding handle.

So what arrived, well after 5 1/2 weeks two orthopaedic thoracic
anchored head support braces arrived - now that's the ones with the
big metal flat bar right over the midline of the neck (great for
surgical airways then - aem - NO), 240 Salbutamol tablets, yes that's
mg/ml for i.v. use so they send tablets. Perhaps the worst example,
after the collars, is the ring cutter ordered (high liklehood of
finger avulsion injuries from the mechanics) and what arrived, a pair
of - NAIL CUTTERS - just what I needed then!

The list is endless. What should have costed less than £450GBP if
purchaesd in the U.K. cost £4029.25 based on 10052 Libyan Dinars
converted at xe.com

Not only did the items arrive incorrect but the original list was
edited to reflect nothing like what I needed. When the list that cost
that amazing £4029.25 arrived as a manifest, MOST of the items
charged for were missing.

So what is the punchline here? Well there exists significant
corruption in Libya, really extensive, from paying bags of money to
get kit through customs, to being forced to use really poor copied
kit from ultra cheap sources and expecting it to take MONTHS for kit
that cannot be sourced locally to be provided.

Attitudes towards the Paramedics in-situ are poor. Safety is NOT a
real priority there although they talk as though it really is.

If you are considering an opportunity in Libya, really do the
following: Get your own kit, take everything you need (but remember
drug import to Libya is VERY akward and needs great care). Organise
your company to accept full and unequovical liability for any kit
that is confiscated by the Libyan Customs staff - who make the rules
up as they go, or get a "facilitator" to be there when you get there
to meet you AND your kit - PRE-CUSTOMS.

Exect attitudes towards ordering to be lax, kit to take ages, and
above all, expect nothing like what you ordered (no matter how clear
it is detailed on the order) to arrive and expect attitudes towards
you to be seen as a "tick in the box".

Obviously, there will be some exceptions to this, however "This is
Libya" will recur again and again and you will mostly be seen as a
costly accessory to allow a company to make the statement "We have
Paramedics in place". Looks good on a profile, but if you don't get
or have the kit to do your job, remember - People on site will EXPECT
Paramedic level support, if you don't have the kit - hell that's not
their problem, just fix the guy - what with five months out of date
fluids, no monitoring, wrong drugs, no major trauma dressings and so
on, Oh and a five hour off road trip to manage the patient, just to
get to the first airfield.

Sure guys, opportunities exist out there, but do EXTENSIVE pre-
deployment work and get everything in writing. If they will not
provide an accurate list of provided kit, in writing and assurances
of the support logistics, again in writing, forget it, they are
likely to be unable to support you.

Been there - done that and really worried about those guys looking to
go out there.

The best on - Laryngoscope arrived, fantastic, second hand, broken
(yes really physically broken) and ..... PAEDIATRIC blades, you know
the really tiny ones. Oh well blind digital intubation it is then,
hang on, need tubes to do that!

Pete

Pete Galway at operations at msl dash libya dot com
<mailto:operations@...>


________________________________

From: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com on behalf of peter.dryden
Sent: Sun 05/11/2006 00:56
To: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Remotemedics.co.uk] Re: Fwd: Libya



Hi Ian,

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com etc... ) many thanks Ian.

Pete




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Hi Ian,

The email address you supplied of Pete Galway has been truncated. Any
chance you can text it out (i.e. not in the email format directly but
in the form of it. viz, name - dot - name - at - organisation - dot -
com etc... ) many thanks Ian.

Pete

Hello All:
Just needed so advise, I went to work for Frontier
Medical service for 5 weeks, well I did my tour and
even got a letter from the Capt of the boat telling me
what a good job I did (shocked).
Well during the trip FMS is telling me that have all
these assignment's lined up for me, and when I finish
my tour , it would be a quick turn around, well then
they got the GOM contract and they wanted me to  go
work it for a lot less than any GOM  medic would work
for, I explained that when working in USA waters you
had better have all your ACLS equipment in line
because if you fly off with a chest pain or anything
that's the first thing they will be looking for when
you land and the hospital and that no medic would risk
his cert by no adhering to the rules of being a medic
weather it be offshore or on an ambulance and will
want the right equipment to work with. they were
offering 250 USD a day the going rate is 300-300 a day
+health benefits so I said no I will not work for that
price No NHS here Guys which we had it but it does not
look like it will ever happen.
Well then when I am asking them if there are any
assignment's other than the GOM they say NO, I look at
there web site and guess what recruiting medics for
the GOM and other places, it the other places I want
to go to, there I can work under there medical control
and not worry about loosing my license for not having
the right equipment.
Bottom any advise for this out of work Medic All
comments welcome
Regards
Fred



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Tim

Take a look at this website http://www.rushcliff.com/pps/index.html

They produce a medical records database for multiple locations, with
central data storage, which may just be what your looking for.

This is something that I looked at some time ago for a similar situation as
yourself, although it didn't develop into anything due to lack of support
from onshore.

I had some communcations with the company and it looked as if it would do
the job

The licencing isn't too expensive.

Best regards

Colin Marshall

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Tim Betts tim.betts@...
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:33:41 -0000
To: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Remotemedics.co.uk] Medical Records



Good morning all from a stormy North Sea.  I am currently looking into
the issue of medical records software for use in the field.



What we are after is a database for recording patient consultations,
examinations, health surveillance etc.  We do not need anything too
complex - simple is always good in my opinion... We require a system
which will allow all patients to be logged centrally as we like many
have a large number of personnel moving about the field.



One of my colleagues is looking at bespoke systems whereas I am trying
to find an off the shelf system that will meet our needs.



If any of you could share any thoughts, leads or advice on this I would
be very grateful.



Thanks in anticipation



Tim



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HI all

Not wishing to teach grandma - but the slides on susp trauma are all
fundementally flawed since they all reffer to the death on rescue being
as a result of toxins - HYPER KALAEMIA OR Myoglobin release - yet we
know that from data on  Crush syndrome these do not kill intantly
without

Prolonged exposure - 4 + hours

all that happens in less time is that kidneys can be damaged due to
maybe the issues above, but
It is more likely that kidneys are damaged by lack of fluid - dumping up
to 60% of total blood into legs causes equivalent of catastrophic shock
- and Kidney perfusion therefore poor...

The actual physiology to death upon rescue....is related to the
splinting of the Right Heart and over stretch of the starling curve - by
pouring back an extra 60% of blood into the heart - instantaneous fluid
overload... From our data we know that the heart becomes splinted with
more than 25% extra volume - and therefore becomes asystole....

So back to the help i need - has anybody seen one of these - if so what
was presenting rhythm?

Are there any experts out there in the subject of ORTHOSTASIS? I am
trying to set up experiments - ehics permitting and need a bit of design
assistance...

tHANKS ALL

Dave Halliwell MSc Paramedic




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The link was probably "clipped" it happens sometimes.

Go to www.groups.yahoo.com, search for remotesupportmedics, and locate
the files link manually.

Rgs

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Ian, I get a msg.
The requested file or directory is not found on the server.
Iam I doing something wrong?


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The files promised by John have been uploaded to the files area of the
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From%20Jo hn%20Quinn/

One file unfortunately was too large to upload.

Rgs

Ian

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Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.

For the Fallen - 1914. Laurence Thomas Binyon (1869-1943)

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Ian, I get a msg.
The requested file or directory is not found on the server.
Iam I doing something wrong?


----- Original Message ----
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To: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
Cc: JOHN QUINN <cuinne@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 3:02:46 PM
Subject: [Remotemedics.co.uk]

The files promised by John have been uploaded to the files area of the
group.

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RemoteSupportMed ics/files/ From%20Jo
hn%20Quinn/

One file unfortunately was too large to upload.

Rgs

Ian

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Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

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CVs required from experienced medics, ideally with desert/North Africa
experience for a number of upcoming posts in Libya for a variety of clients.
Good dayrate. These are not open to US citizens as it is virtually
impossible to obtain Visas for them at present. Do not reply directly to
this email - there is no further information. Email CVs to Pete Galway at
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The files promised by John have been uploaded to the files area of the
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hn%20Quinn/

One file unfortunately was too large to upload.

Rgs

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  They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

For the Fallen - 1914. Laurence Thomas Binyon (1869-1943)






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Hey guys - thank you for all of the offers of good ideas for me to better
disseminate these ppts



I got an email from Ian and he is helping me with getting them to a better
format so everyone can get to them



More to follow.



Talk soon



John Quinn

cuinne@...

+420 608 246 032

+1 630 747 9081



   _____

From: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of A Austin
Sent: 01 November 2006 01:08
To: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Remotemedics.co.uk]



I'm sure you thought of it already, but you could try to upload them
to the files area of the group. Other places would be any of the
major filesharing sites like Rapidshare.de (now Rapidshare.com). You
can upload anything up to 100MB and then post a download link to the
group--though unless you have a premium account things will expire
after 30 days without a download, I think.

On Oct 31, 2006, at 12:09 PM, gerry keenan wrote:

> john,
> thanks these are great.
> gerry
>
> --- JOHN QUINN <cuinne@gmail. <mailto:cuinne%40gmail.com> com> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys - I have got a lot of requests for a lot of
> > the teaching supplies
> > (PowerPoint's) I use for education (mass casualty
> > stuff, photos of Iraq
> > etc). Only problem is that the files are MASSIVE
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if I could post them all to a website? I
> > am not so hot to be
> > able to put something like that together but you
> > guys were really fast and
> > efficient with the website for jobs and stuff -
> > making the website, finding
> > out how to do it.I have no idea
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, if we had a site where I could upload a lot of
> > stuff to, it may help
> > our CME/CE etc as well as just knowledge in general
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > John Quinn
> >
> > cuinne@gmail. <mailto:cuinne%40gmail.com> com
> >
> > +420 608 246 032
> >
> > +1 630 747 9081
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: RemoteSupportMedics <mailto:RemoteSupportMedics%40yahoogroups.com>
@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:RemoteSupportMedics
<mailto:RemoteSupportMedics%40yahoogroups.com> @yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Rod Eglin
> > Sent: 30 October 2006 15:22
> > To: RemoteSupportMedics <mailto:RemoteSupportMedics%40yahoogroups.com>
@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Remotemedics.co.uk] Mass Casualty
> > Presentation
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like one, also?
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > Mass Casualty Presentation
> >
> > > Does anybody have a good Mass Cas presentation...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Good morning all from a stormy North Sea.  I am currently looking into
the issue of medical records software for use in the field.



What we are after is a database for recording patient consultations,
examinations, health surveillance etc.  We do not need anything too
complex - simple is always good in my opinion... We require a system
which will allow all patients to be logged centrally as we like many
have a large number of personnel moving about the field.



One of my colleagues is looking at bespoke systems whereas I am trying
to find an off the shelf system that will meet our needs.



If any of you could share any thoughts, leads or advice on this I would
be very grateful.



Thanks in anticipation



Tim



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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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iansharpeuk <Ian@...>

I'm sure you thought of it already, but you could try to upload them
to the files area of the group. Other places would be any of the
major filesharing sites like Rapidshare.de (now Rapidshare.com). You
can upload anything up to 100MB and then post a download link to the
group--though unless you have a premium account things will expire
after 30 days without a download, I think.

On Oct 31, 2006, at 12:09 PM, gerry keenan wrote:

> john,
> thanks these are great.
> gerry
>
> --- JOHN QUINN <cuinne@...> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys - I have got a lot of requests for a lot of
> > the teaching supplies
> > (PowerPoint's) I use for education (mass casualty
> > stuff, photos of Iraq
> > etc). Only problem is that the files are MASSIVE
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if I could post them all to a website? I
> > am not so hot to be
> > able to put something like that together but you
> > guys were really fast and
> > efficient with the website for jobs and stuff -
> > making the website, finding
> > out how to do it.I have no idea
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, if we had a site where I could upload a lot of
> > stuff to, it may help
> > our CME/CE etc as well as just knowledge in general
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > John Quinn
> >
> > cuinne@...
> >
> > +420 608 246 032
> >
> > +1 630 747 9081
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Rod Eglin
> > Sent: 30 October 2006 15:22
> > To: RemoteSupportMedics@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Remotemedics.co.uk] Mass Casualty
> > Presentation
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like one, also?
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > Mass Casualty Presentation
> >
> > > Does anybody have a good Mass Cas presentation...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>



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