Hello Ellis!!

I've always had mild Carpel tunnel Symptoms (CTS) and seeing

as CTS can be a side effect of taking HGH I was a little concerned.



I  started taking HGH about 6 months ago (2 UI/day). After about

6 weeks my CTS was  beginning to get worse so I dropped to 1 uI/day

then finally to 1/2 day.  Then I stopped entirely.



I have been to my Doctor and had the nerve conductivity test done

-the results were a recommendation to have Carpel tunnel release

surgery. I currently have continuous tingling fingers/numbness.

and  have been assured that I will be able to regain feeling If

I have the surgery  done.



Other than the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome I had good results from

using HGH.



Do you or other members of Rejuvenation have experience/knowledge

with HGH and CTS?  Can you give me any advice on restarting HGH

after I have the surgery?



Much Thanks!!!



Live long and prosper

Pat



Hello Pat,



We have only had a few cases of persons who reported carpal

tunnel syndrome, in 10,000 posts... and they all got better

by dropping the dose to about half...  What I have learned is

that Vitamin B complex, especially vitamin B-12 is good for

carpal tunnel.  I suggest you should try it before you get the

surgery done, maybe it will help you to avoid surgery.



When you start HGH again (I hope you will, soon...) I

suggest you should take 1/2 iu, one day yes, one day no...



See if that does anything bad, and if does not, if it is only

good benefits, then write to me again and let's see what we do.



Good luck, and keep us posted.   If anybody else has advice

for Pat, anything that is good for carpal Tunnel, please let

us know.

Ellis wrote:



> Good luck, and keep us posted.   If anybody else has advice

> for Pat, anything that is good for carpal Tunnel, please let

> us know.

>





Hi Ellis

   I have heard or read that diuretics have a very good effect on carpal

tunnel...I would at least try it and see if it helps..I would surely

not agree to surgery unless all other options are explored.



Diana



Ellis: Hello Diana.  Thanks for sending this.  I'll forward

it to the group. - Ellis

Ellis, My wife was helped using B-6 for carpal tunnel (CTS).

She took 25 - 50mg, plus a standard low dose B- complex

(to balance the supplement). Her CTS has never returned and

she has continued the B-complex and eliminated the B-6.



I am taking GH (3 clicks on a Humatrope pen ) and have a

'side effect' which started ( at a 1 click dose ) as a light

headache concentrated just under my skull (as if my brain

covering had become tender to the point of discomfort/pain).



Now at 3 clicks I have a constant mild stiff neck at the

base of my skull. I am 70+ and under M.D. supervision, having

failed the arginine test. Have you heard of side effects

like mine?



I enjoy your generous sharing of mission and content.  // Burt



Ellis: Hello Burt: No, I have never heard of a side effect

like yours... and I have received 10,000 posts on Rejuvenation

and many thousands more comments and feedback by e-mail.



I am not sure what "three clicks" on the Humatrope pen is

equivalent to in iu's... how many clicks are there total, and

how many milligrams of HGH powder are there in the cartridge?

Or how many iu's are there in the cartridge, and how many

doses do you get out of it?



A constant mild stiff neck at the base of your skull?  What

could it be?



I think you should try hyperbaric oxygen, and also EPO, and also

EDTA chelation.  If it does not help your stiff neck, it will be

good for you anyways. And I think cleaning the circulatory system

with EDTA plus getting some oxygen all over your body might help

your stiff neck.



In any case, it will surely help the rest of your body.



Thanks for writing... keep us informed.  Good luck. - Ellis



   _____



Hello Ellis!!



I've always had mild Carpel tunnel Symptoms (CTS) and seeing

as CTS can be a side effect of taking HGH I was a little concerned.



I started taking HGH about 6 months ago (2 UI/day). After about

6 weeks my CTS was beginning to get worse so I dropped to 1 uI/day

then finally to 1/2 day. Then I stopped entirely.



I have been to my Doctor and had the nerve conductivity test done

-the results were a recommendation to have Carpel tunnel release

surgery. I currently have continuous tingling fingers/numbness.

and have been assured that I will be able to regain feeling If

I have the surgery done.



Other than the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome I had good results from

using HGH.



Do you or other members of Rejuvenation have experience/knowledge

with HGH and CTS? Can you give me any advice on restarting HGH

after I have the surgery?



Much Thanks!!!



Live long and prosper

Pat



Hello Pat,



We have only had a few cases of persons who reported carpal

tunnel syndrome, in 10,000 posts... and they all got better

by dropping the dose to about half... What I have learned is

that Vitamin B complex, especially vitamin B-12 is good for

carpal tunnel. I suggest you should try it before you get the

surgery done, maybe it will help you to avoid surgery.



When you start HGH again (I hope you will, soon...) I

suggest you should take 1/2 iu, one day yes, one day no...



See if that does anything bad, and if does not, if it is only

good benefits, then write to me again and let's see what we do.



Good luck, and keep us posted. If anybody else has advice

for Pat, anything that is good for carpal Tunnel, please let

us know.

Results

Many people continue to have some carpal tunnel symptoms after
surgery, but most report that the operation reduced their
symptoms significantly. Grip strength is often reduced
immediately after surgery, but usually rebounds within a few
months. Your scar, however, may feel tender for up to a year.
Massaging your scar can help desensitize it.

The time off work after carpal tunnel surgery depends on many
factors. A right-handed factory worker with open-release surgery
on the right hand and no option for light-duty work might be off
work six weeks or more, while a left-handed executive with a
right open-release surgery may not miss any time from work. Most
people are off work for at least a month after open-release
surgery.

At least 10 percent of the people who have either variety of
carpal tunnel surgery never return to their original line of
work — especially if their jobs involved heavy manual
labor. Be sure to discuss return to work with your surgeon
before surgery.

End of quote.

Mike Lenker
(P.S.: I am not a surgeon)

Ellis: Hello Mike. Thanks for the great advice for Pat,
and your insights. Your advice that there is the possibility
of endoscopy surgery that is better than the traditional
surgery is worth a million dollars for her if she didn't
already know it and would have gotten the traditional surgery.

And as for me... I learn from you... now I have learned
something useful that I might tell somebody else someday.
200 years ago I might have been considered a doctor because
I have learned so much that heals from good doctors!

Thanks for writing. Thanks for a great post. Three stars
for this post. (three stars means: "this is a very good post...
I think you should read this post because you will learn
something interesting.") Again, three cheers for Dr.
Mike Lenker.

rbwplwjd@... wrote:

Hello Ellis!!
I've always had mild Carpel tunnel Symptoms (CTS) and seeing
as CTS can be a side effect of taking HGH I was a little concerned.

I started taking HGH about 6 months ago (2 UI/day). After about
6 weeks my CTS was beginning to get worse so I dropped to 1 uI/day
then finally to 1/2 day. Then I stopped entirely.

I have been to my Doctor and had the nerve conductivity test done
-the results were a recommendation to have Carpel tunnel release
surgery. I currently have continuous tingling fingers/numbness.
and have been assured that I will be able to regain feeling If
I have the surgery done.

Other than the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome I had good results from
using HGH.

Do you or other members of Rejuvenation have experience/knowledge
with HGH and CTS? Can you give me any advice on restarting HGH
after I have the surgery?

Much Thanks!!!

Live long and prosper
Pat

Hello Pat,

We have only had a few cases of persons who reported carpal
tunnel syndrome, in 10,000 posts... and they all got better
by dropping the dose to about half... What I have learned is
that Vitamin B complex, especially vitamin B-12 is good for
carpal tunnel. I suggest you should try it before you get the
surgery done, maybe it will help you to avoid surgery.

When you start HGH again (I hope you will, soon...) I
suggest you should take 1/2 iu, one day yes, one day no...

See if that does anything bad, and if does not, if it is only
good benefits, then write to me again and let's see what we do.

Good luck, and keep us posted. If anybody else has advice
for Pat, anything that is good for carpal Tunnel, please let
us know.

Cynthia: I have a different type of tendinitis.  I have found that

taking female hormones helps.  And Capsaicin Cream applied directly

to the joint provides instant relief.



My doctor had me take Tylenol, which was not very useful.



Ellis: Hello Cynthia... Pat, more good advice for you.  Try

female hormones, and Capsaicin Cream.  I looked up Capsaicin

cream and I found this:



================

What is capsaicin cream? Other names: cayenne pepper, chili

pepper, hot pepper, paprika, pimiento, red pepper



Capsaicin (pronounced cap-SAY-sin) is the active ingredient in

chili peppers. It's what gives chili peppers their kick.



Why do people use capsaicin cream?  Capsaicin cream is primarily

used to relieve pain and itching. Conditions it is used for include:



ETC...

===============



Ellis: YES!  Definitely try capsaicin cream.  Chili peppers are

great for many things... and of course, having lived in Mexico

for 49 years, I am a devoted fan and eater of chili peppers.



Chili... it is good for the chili...



An Englishman to a Mexican, in a men's bathroom on a cold day:



"Pretty chili, ol' chap!"



"Oh?!!... Tank you!  Tank you!"



Three stars for this post.  - Ellis







On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:12 AM,  <rbwplwjd@...> wrote:

> Hello Ellis!!

> I've always had mild Carpel tunnel Symptoms (CTS) and seeing

> as CTS can be a side effect of taking HGH I was a little concerned.

>

> I started taking HGH about 6 months ago (2 UI/day). After about

> 6 weeks my CTS was beginning to get worse so I dropped to 1 uI/day

> then finally to 1/2 day. Then I stopped entirely.

>

> I have been to my Doctor and had the nerve conductivity test done

> -the results were a recommendation to have Carpel tunnel release

> surgery. I currently have continuous tingling fingers/numbness.

> and have been assured that I will be able to regain feeling If

> I have the surgery done.

>

> Other than the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome I had good results from

> using HGH.

>

> Do you or other members of Rejuvenation have experience/knowledge

> with HGH and CTS? Can you give me any advice on restarting HGH

> after I have the surgery?

>

> Much Thanks!!!

>

> Live long and prosper

> Pat

>

> Hello Pat,

>

> We have only had a few cases of persons who reported carpal

> tunnel syndrome, in 10,000 posts... and they all got better

> by dropping the dose to about half... What I have learned is

> that Vitamin B complex, especially vitamin B-12 is good for

> carpal tunnel. I suggest you should try it before you get the

> surgery done, maybe it will help you to avoid surgery.

>

> When you start HGH again (I hope you will, soon...) I

> suggest you should take 1/2 iu, one day yes, one day no...

>

> See if that does anything bad, and if does not, if it is only

> good benefits, then write to me again and let's see what we do.

>

> Good luck, and keep us posted. If anybody else has advice

> for Pat, anything that is good for carpal Tunnel, please let

> us know.

>

>