bikeice@... wrote:

>It really is not necessary to know my HbA1c and fasting
>glucose levels to decide if using insulin has been good for
>me or not. IT HAS NOT BEEN BAD FOR ME, so it has to have
>been GOOD for me. There is no other possibility.


Ellis, your logic is faulty. There is good, bad and NEUTRAL.
And I am doubtful that you are in a position to judge what the
long term effects of adding extra insulin to your system will be.

Since you are using HGH, which DOES increase insulin resistance,
it is probably not doing anything immediately harmful to you, and
since you are already in your seventh decade, it is unlikely to
cause an overt problem during your lifetime.


Ellis: {Ha! Now it is an ADVANTAGE to be in MY SEVENTH DECADE?!!!
Thanks.

I am not in a position to judge what the long term effects of
adding extra insulin to my system will be, but neither are
you, since it has never been done before. But I am in a position
to be able to judge what higher blood glucose levels does to
DIABETICS, and since the extra insulin added to my system
LOWERS my blood glucose, and since I AM FORTUNATE NOT TO NEED
A DOCTOR's APPROVAL to do what I am doing, I decided that IT
MAKES SENSE to keep my blood glucose levels 30 points lower
for the next 60 years. (I think I have a chance to live to
age 100, well... and to age 120, not so well, but better than
anybody who has lived to age 120 before me...)

So between NOT KNOWING what the added insulin will do to my
body, and KNOWING what the lower blood glucose will do for
my long term health, I think it makes sense to inject insulin
the way I do.

IN ANY CASE, I LOOK PRETTY GOOD, and I FEEL PRETTY GOOD, so
the proof is in the pudding as they say... I will not complain
if I should die suddenly for any reason at all, I can't die
"young" anymore, so I have already lived a nice and full and
healthy life... . I am THANKFUL that I have lived 62 years,
in a healthy and YOUNG body.

Last week I went SNORKELLING into the jungles in Yucatan, to
2 CENOTES... that is, underground rivers, and into a cave
that looked like it was a castle of jewels... Of course I was
the only 62 year OLD MAN on the excursion, everybody else was
a lot younger than me.

Some of my good health is due to the fact that I use insulin.
- Ellis}







But you cannot legitimately suggest this as a lifelong
practice to younger people.

Ellis: {Why not? But none of them listen to me anyways. But it
is a great anti aging therapy to keep your blood glucose levels
controlled since you are young. - Ellis}

>I have used insulin 5 or 6 or more times per day, every single
>day, for about 7 years... that is 6 x 365 = 2000 per year x 7
>years... that is 14,000 times that I have used insulin. And
>EACH TIME it has lowered my blood glucose...
>
>So you have to decide if lower blood glucose is a good thing,
>or if it is not important, or if it is a bad thing... There are
>no other possibilities.
>
Low blood glucose is NOT a good thing, high blood glucose is NOT a good thing.
Normal blood glucose - that goes UP after meals and returns to normal fasting
levels in an appropriate amount of time
IS a good thing.


Ellis : {Dr. Bernstein keeps HIS blood glucose at 83 mg/dl
BEFORE, and DURING, and AFTER eating. So that is the IDEAL
for ME.

I am not as strict as Dr. Bernstein. I don't inject Humalog
45 minutes before eating, and I don't eat exactly at the time
I am supposed to, and I don't measure the food I eat as
precisely as Dr. Bernstein does... etc. so I DO have some
UPS and DOWNS... but I don't have many PEAKS above 110...
and I never have lows below 70, and very few between 70 and
80 unless I purposely try to get them...
and the few peaks that I do have, come DOWN sooner because
I inject INSULIN a few minutes before I eat, so it is acting
about half an hour after I finish eating.

Anyways... we'll know if it works, 30 years from now... when I
am 92 we'll decide if it was a good thing for me to do. - Ellis}



>And... FOR CERTAIN, it is GOOD for blood glucose to be between 70
>and 100, than for blood glucose to be between 100 and 130... or
>worse.
>
>WE KNOW this, because WE KNOW that SUGAR IN THE BLOOD STICKS
>to HEMOGLOBIN and damages it. But if we KNOW this, then we
>CAN GUESS that it also is sticking to THE KIDNEYS, and to
>THE NERVES IN THE EYES.
>
>So that is all we need to know.

NOT BY A LONG SHOT ! If only biology were as simple as your notions
of it are!

{Yes... ignorance is bliss... but my simple notions make life
easier for me to decide something that I have to decide now with
a simple YES or NO...

And it is FOR ME, so what's the problem? I don't want to wait
until A COMMITTEE of scientists investigates to see if it is
SAFE... I have used it safely and without incident for 7 years,
so I think it is safe enough for me... And I teach anybody
who asks me, so they get over the learning curve without a
problem, too. - Ellis}

>Using insulin has NEVER caused me hypoglycemian, brain damage,
>shut down my pancreas, caused insulin resistance, or any of the
>other supposed dangers that doctors are so afraid of... so maybe
>those fears and dangers are not real.


WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF THEM. WE KNOW THEY OCCUR. In fact, hypoglycemia, caused
by insulin administration is one of the
leading causes of emergency room visits by older people.



Ellis {Yes, it occurs in diabetics, who don't know how to use
insulin correctly because THEIR DOCTORS don't know how to use
insulin correctly. Their doctors start by telling them to eat
a high carb meal, as the American Diabetes Association has
recommended, and they can keep their HbA1c below 7.0, as the
American Diabetes Association recommends... So they have to
take LARGE DOSES OF INSULIN...

I am taking a tiny dose of 0 or 1 or 2 or 3 iu of insulin.
And Dr. Bernstein recommends tiny doses of insulin to his
patients, not huge doses... or is it a coincidence that his
patients are not the ones that are ending up in emergency room
visits?

I SAID USING INSULIN CORRECTLY is not a problem... Using insulin INCORRECTLY is
a big problem. - Ellis}



>The first HbA1c's that I got when I began to use insulin were
>about 6.2... Now they are about 5.2 ONE POINT less is about
>30 mg/dl less on the average, 24 hours per day, for perhaps 6
>or 7 years.


6.2 is a diabetic level. So as I gather from your data, you are
diabetic and have been successfully treating yourself with insulin.
That is fine. You would save on syringes and needles if you used
pioglitizone or metformin.


{Thanks. But if I save on syringes and needles now, and if I
would use pioglitizone or metformin, later I might have to spend
more on kidney dialisis and hospitals and doctors...

I CALL MYSELF A DIABETIC, but I am NOT a diabetic, as defined by
the American Diabetes Association. If I do NOT use insulin, and
if I eat a HIGH CARB meal, my blood glucose goes UP and then it
comes DOWN below 100 in less than 120 minutes.

http://www.rajeun.net/35minutes.html

And my morning fasting blood glucose USED TO BE between 105 and
115... that is called "glucose intolerance" which is sort of
"pre-diabetes"...

In my "Assess your pancreas" page, I suggest that you drink
a glass of ORANGE JUICE and then test your blood glucose every
few minutes for TWO HOURS, to get A GRAPH of how your blood
glucose goes up and down... then, compare that graph with the
graphs on my Typical Glucose Tolerance Tests results page, and
you can get an idea of HOW MANY ENGINES YOUR AIRPLANE HAS...

http://www.rajeun.net/assess.html

http://www.rajeun.net/gtt.html

I am LIKE AN AIRPLANE WITH 4 ENGINES, FLYING OVER THE ATLANTIC,
and ONE ENGINE IS CONKED OUT... I am not quite in big danger yet,
but I have to pray a little bit... and I hope that a second engine
doesn't conk out over the Atlantic in which case I would have
to start praying a lot.

THAT IS WHY I AM USING INSULIN... (so that I don't have to pray
a lot... yet...)

- Ellis