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Interesting information regarding using insulin to keep blood sugar
levels between 80 and 90. I guess I have been extremely fortunate
in that every year when my blood sugar levels are tested the highest
they have been after fasting is 85.

Do I still need a glucose meter and insulin?


Ellis: [That depends on how much you want to know what your
blood glucose levels are. "According to Ellis" you will learn
a lot more if you check your blood glucose 5 or 6 times per day
every day for one year, than once every year. Usually, that
once per year is BEFORE BREAKFAST... that gives a useful figure,
but it doesn't give enough information.

For example... The DOCTOR that I wrote about a few days ago
told me that he is VERY PLEASED that he has his diabetes "under
control" because he takes METFORMIN... He bases his satisfaction
on the fact that his MORNING FASTING GLUCOSE level is about 90
(says he... I'll bet 100 to 1 that this isn't true...)

But, SUPPOSING that his morning fasting blood glucose is 90...

This still does not mean that his diabetes is under control
because I think he is getting HIGHS of 160 or 180 or maybe even
higher... so his pancreas is releasing insulin which is enough
to lower his blood glucose in (let's say...) EIGHT HOURS... but
"according to Ellis" he is having DAMAGE during those hours when
his blood glucose is HIGH.

He doesn't think this is as bad as how I describe it... And I
believe this person who is 68 years old who is diabetic and who
I think (because I see how he eats) that he is getting blood
glucose levels of 160 and 180 or higher for MANY HOURS every day
is in BIG DANGER of dying of having a heart attack or stroke in
twenty years or less.

So... Your single blood test each year only tells us that you
are not a Diabetic Type I... You might be a Diabetic Type II...

Or you might be getting high blood glucose levels and they come
down in two hours, so you are ON THE ROAD TO DIABETES, even
though you are not a diabetic as defined by the A.D.A.
(this is also my case...)

In my opinion, it would be SMART if you would slow down the
advance to diabetes on the Road to Diabetes.

You can only do this if you KNOW what are your blood glucose
levels AFTER you eat, and if you know HOW FAST it takes for a
high level to come down... You can only do that if you check your
blood glucose levels several times a day...

So go and buy a blood glucose meter and maybe 250 test strips and
start to take notes... I suggest the Freestyle, by Abbott...
or the AccuCheck, by Roche... - Ellis]




I have been injecting HGH for 6 months at 3 ius per day and I got
side effects of extreme knee pain for several months... so I dropped
the amount to 1.5 iu every other day...

I just went through 2 months of neck pain after the knee quit.

I Don't know if I have traveling pain, or what?!

I am going to wait a few months and go back up to the higher level.

[Why do you want to go back to the higher level if it caused you
extreme knee pain for several months? Are you getting benefits
at 1.5 iu WITHOUT knee pain? Then, WHO CARES what are your
IGF-1 levels? Decide your dose by the benefits you get...

And if you are not getting good benefits, then perhaps change
your BRAND of growth hormone. - Ellis]


My IGF-1 was 180 last month and I am hoping to go back up to 300.

Any suggestions??

Georgia

[Yes. Don't get confused about what you want to do. You want
to get good benefits and you want to have good health. You don't
care one bit what anybody says that blood tests should be if you
have PAIN when you get that level. - Ellis]




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Interesting information regarding using insulin to keep blood sugar levels between 80 and 90. I guess I have been extremely fortunate in that every year when...
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New research has shown that Alzheimer's disease may be the result of insulin resistance of neuron synapses in the brain. High levels of insulin accelerates...
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Dec 2, 2007
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... Dr. Marley: You are missing the point. People with insulin resistant diabetes are ALREADY flooding their bodies with insulin. Adding more insulin only...
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Dec 4, 2007
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Dear Ellis: Thank you for a most illuminating explanation of diabetes, HB-A1C, insulin, etc. I have a question for you. Do you think that many over the age of...
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Ellis, The pancreas does produce insulin when one takes metfomin, but to get the same results it produces less insulin. Over time the pancreas does not have...
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Dec 10, 2007
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I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the use of metformin prophylactically. It's a great idea to use it. As far as the insulin is concern not all...
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