comments below...

--- In Rejuvenation@yahoogroups.com, Randy Ice wrote:

> Hi Ellis:
>
> Here is the kind of continuing nonsensical propaganda being
> thrown out at MD's by our so called "advanced" medical care system
> here in the US! HGH hasn't cost "$1000 a month" for over 10 years,
> but that number is constantly bandied about to scare folks away
> from it.
>
> Enlightenment will come very SLOWLY here in "the land of the free!"
>
> Randy Ice P.T., C.C.S.
> Vintage Medical Group
> Temecula,Calif
> www.lookfeelyoung.com
>
> Click here to go directly to the article:
http://www.ivanhoe.com/channels/p_channelstory.cfm?channelid=CHAN-
100000&storyid=15334
> (AOL users <A
HREF="http://www.ivanhoe.com/channels/p_channelstory.cfm?
channelid=CHAN-100000&storyid=15334">click here</A>.)
>
>
> [Hello Randy... Whooops! So then I guess it isn't true that
> I am aging as slowly as I thought... - Ellis]


Isn't it amazing, they have now gone from the original compilation
of the 31 studies totaling 221 subjects to 500.

I sincerely believe that this type of misinformation is put out by
the insurance companies.

fgddd



[I don't know who likes to put out this misinformation, but it
is sad that nobody takes leadership to gather and show the
opposite, which I think is the truth: that thousands of people
are using growth hormones and other hormones and getting
excellent results, and no side effects of any kind much less
CANCER, ACROMEGALIA, DIABETES, and all the other side effects
they think we might get.

Insurance companies should actually be in favor of HGH and
other hormones because I think they will cause fewer or delayed
claims for life insurance, and fewer and less costly claims for
major medical expenses.

But where are the statistics of the hundreds of thousands of
persons who have used HGH for many years now, which I think
would show a DECREASE in the incidence of cancer, and maybe
a DECREASE in the incidence of diabetes? (there is no reason
that I can think of that HGH, itself, should decrease the
incidence of diabetes... nor does it increase it... but I think
people who are taking HGH might also be interested in eating
correctly...)

In 8 years as moderator of Rejuvenation, and thousands of posts
and thousands of persons who have reported using HGH for several
years, there has only been ONE PERSON who blamed getting cancer
because he said he had received HGH as a child (that was somebody
who had HGH deficiency, and who had NOT USED HGH for 6 years
prior to his discovery of cancer in his body.... so I argued that
perhaps he got cancer BECAUSE HE HAD NOT used HGH for several
years.)

Where is the American Academy of Anti Aging Medicine? Where is
Life Extension Foundation?

Where is Ellis Toussier? Here I am. Why don't we try to
gather some statistics here? I'll see what I can do... Maybe
there is a survey software or a database that I can set up.

- Ellis]