[Hello Dick... As I read your post, below, I wasn't sure if
YOU had written it, or if I had written my comments, because
your experience is so exactly like mine... so I will comment
a little, in CAPITAL LETTERS... - Ellis]



I just finished my first eight months on HGH. I will be 62 in
January. I am 6'3" and 205 lbs.

In 2005 I weighed 224 and prior to taking HGH I started to get my
weight down and did it get it down to 207 even before taking HGH.
Yes, I was eating too much and got sick of not looking and feeling
good.

Even though I was overweight a bit, I always exercised normally four
times a week so cutting down on the food allowed me to quickly lose
the weight over just 3 1/2 months.

However, I did not lose that much around my waist. I was still
wearing 36 pants and sometimes they felt a bit snug.

I started on HGH this past March. I felt good prior to HGH but now I
feel invincible. I also take hormones. So my sex life is as good as
it was when I was 30. Ask my wife!

[YESSIR... THAT IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL TOO... EXCEPT I **AM**
INVINCIBLE... I WILL BE 62 IN AUGUST, SO WE ARE ABOUT THE SAME
AGE... - ELLIS]




And luckily, although she is not taking HGH yet, but is an
exercise instructor and also lifts weights, at 58 and taking
no hormones she has a very high sex drive. We cannot figure out
why. All we figure is that taking DHEA it may have increased her
testosterone.

Fast forward to two weeks ago when I went shopping with my wife for
some new jeans. I asked if they had 35 waist hoping I could get
into a smaller size and they said no. So I thought I would try 34. I
have not been a 34 waist since my twenties. I bought two pair of 34
jeans with some room to spare. I walked out of that store really
high and excited.

I have at least a dozen pair of jeans from 36-38 that I will be
giving away.

I am now officially a 34 and I have some room there. That is one of
the most exciting things about HGH. Body fat has disappeared around
my waist and my chest. Because I exercise and lift weights five to
six days a week I am mostly all muscle but not like some body
builder because I am trim.

I just spent nearly $500 bucks on three pair of jeans. One pair was
$185. I cannot afford to be a 32. What the heck happened to $50
jeans? These jeans are made for young people.

Why not look young and feel young!

I had to see a doctor, whom I did not know, for a blood test. When
he saw my age on the chart he almost choked on his coffee. He was
really shocked. He was 57 and thought I was ten years younger than
him.

[DOCTORS CAN BE SOME OF THE MOST IGNORANT PEOPLE YOU WILL
MEET IN YOUR LIFE... OF COURSE, THEY CAN ALSO BE SMART... AND
IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE ANTI-AGING DOCTORS THEY USUALLY ARE SMART...
JUST NEVER ASK AN ENDOCRINOLOGIST... ABOUT 99% OF THEM ARE
AGAINST US USING GROWTH HORMONE FOR ANTI AGING PURPOSES BECAUSE
THEY ALREADY KNOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FEEL AND LOOK LIKE YOU
AND I DO... - ELLIS]

I take 2 units a day in the morning usually with no breaks and my
most recent I-GF1 was 287 up from 179. My anti-aging doctor was
excited.

Ellis what is the latest on whether I should take a day off a week
or not. It's like I hate taking a day off.

[ME TOO... THE FACT IS THAT NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHICH IS THE
BEST DOSE, OR THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE GROWTH HORMONE... HGH IS SO GOOD
THAT EVERYBODY IS GETTING GOOD RESULTS, WHETHER YOU TAKE 14
UNITS IN 7 DAYS OR 14 UNITS IN 6 DAYS, OR 4 UNITS EVERY OTHER
DAY AND 2 ON THE SEVENTH... EVERYTHING WORKS... WE'RE NOT SURE
WHICH IS THE BEST DOSE IN THE LONG RUN, EITHER... IN MY OPINION,
THE IDEAL DOSE IS THE HIGHEST DOSE THAT WE CAN TAKE IN THE LONG
RUN THAT DOES NOT CAUSE ANY SIDE EFFECTS... SO... TAKE WHATEVER
DOSE OF HGH YOU WANT TO TAKE, AND TAKE IT 6 OR 7 DAYS OR 5
DAYS OR ONCE A WEEK OR TWICE A WEEK... WHATEVER AND HOWEVER YOU
WANT TO TAKE IT, THE RULE OF THUMB IS: ANY AMOUNT IS BETTER
THAN ZERO... ABOUT 15 IU PER DAY WILL CAUSE CARPAL TUNNEL
SYNDROME AFTER A FEW MONTHS, AND MAYBE ACROMEGALIA AFTER ABOUT
8 MONTHS... I HAVE KNOWN PERSONS WHO USED 15 IU PER DAY EVERYDAY
FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS, TO MAKE CARTILAGE GROW ON THEIR KNEES,
AND THEY DID **NOT** GET CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME (AND OF COURSE,
THEY DIDN'T GET ACROMEGALIA EITHER... ACROMEGALIA COMES AFTER
CARPAL TUNNEL...) I HAVE TAKEN 2 IU PER DAY EVERY SINGLE DAY
FOR ABOUT 9 YEARS, WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS... AND STILL SOME
DOCTORS WILL TELL ME THAT I SHOULD STOP BECAUSE "WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE LONG RUN"!!! NO, WE DON'T... BUT WE
KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE "LONG RUN" IF WE **DO NOT** TAKE
GROWTH HORMONE, AND I WILL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH THE UNKNOWN RATHER
THAN WITH WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW (WHICH IS: WE GROW OLDER...)
- ELLIS]

Oh, I also never thought I could give myself an injection. How
foolish! On the pain scale of a flu shot (which I will never take)
of 1-10 with 10 being the worst pain, injecting HGH is 0.5. Most
times it's 0.0.

[I AGREE ABSOLUTELY, AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW I DESCRIBE IT:
ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, MOST OF THE TIME IT IS A ZERO... !!!
- ELLIS]

I have had zero side effects from taking HGH.

[ME TOO... ZERO SIDE EFFECTS, AFTER 2 IU EVERY DAY FOR 9 YEARS...
- ELLIS]


I took the Real Age test recently online and it says I am 49. That
dissapointed me. They don't know I take HGH.

[THEY DON'T ASK THE QUESTION... THAT IS WHY THEIR TEST IS NOT
AS GOOD AS IT COULD BE... THEY ASK WHAT YOU EAT... I WANT TO
ANSWER THAT I HAVE "GROWTH HORMONE FOR BREAKFAST..."

I look great and feel unbelievable. I have not had any sickness for
two years. None.

[ME TOO... I HAVE HAD TWO COLDS IN NINE YEARS, AND NEITHER OF
THEM KNOCKED ME DOWN... A FEW SNEEZES, AND THAT IS ALL... POOR
GERMS THAT CAUSE COLDS, THEY HAD BETTER NOT TRY TO GIVE ME A
COLD BECAUSE THEY ARE SIGNING THEIR DEATH SENTENCE!!! - ELLIS]

Unless you are taking HGH you won't know what I am talking about.

Does anybody think I am hooked on this stuff!

Dick

[WE'RE NOT EXACTLY HOOKED... WE COULD QUIT ANYTIME WE WANT TO,
WE ARE NOT **ADDICTED** TO GROWTH HORMONE... WE ARE ADDICTED TO
LIKING TO LOOK AND FEEL GOOD, AND WE ARE ADDICTED TO GOOD HEALTH...
THE REASON WHY THEY BAN GROWTH HORMONE AND OTHER GROWTH HORMONE
FROM ATHLETIC SPORTS IS BECAUSE IT IS **GOOD** FOR THE ATHLETES,
NOT BECAUSE IT IS **BAD** FOR THE ATHLETES... IF I WAS AN ATHLETE,
I WOULD QUIT THE SPORT RATHER THAN LET THEM DICTATE THAT I SHOULD
ALLOW MY BODY TO DETERIORATE... IN FACT, I HAVE DECIDED THAT I WOULD
LIKE TO TRY TO CLIMB MT. EVEREST SOMEDAY, JUST SO THAT I CAN HAVE
THE PLEASURE OF SAYING THAT I COULD DO IT **BECAUSE** I AM IN BETTER
PHYSICAL SHAPE THAN OTHER "OLD" MEN MY AGE... AND I WOULD LIKE TO
TELL THEM THAT IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF MY SUPERIOR GENES, BUT BECAUSE
I TAKE ALL THE HORMONES THAT ARE BANNED FROM SPORTS... IT DOESN'T
REALLY MATTER IF I DO CLIMB EVEREST OR IF I ONLY TRY TO CLIMB
MT. EVEREST, I AM GOING TO TRY TO CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST... HOW MANY
OLD MEN AGE 61 OR MORE CAN SAY THEY EVEN TRIED THAT???

I ONLY KNOW ONE... AL HANNA... HE TRIED TO CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST
WHEN HE WAS AGE 71, AND HE ALMOST MADE IT... HE CLIMBED A PEAK
THAT IS 300 METERS LOWER THAN EVEREST, NEAR EVEREST, BUT NOT
EVEREST... THAT IS FABULOUS, I CONGRATULATE HIM... I AM GOING TO
TRY TO HELP HIM TO BE THE OLDEST MAN TO CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST, IF I
CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM... WITH WHAT HE KNOWS, AND WITH WHAT I
KNOW, MAYBE I CAN HELP HIM AND HE CAN HELP ME, AND WE CAN BOTH
CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST...

DICK... I ALSO TAKE TESTOSTERONE, AND ERITHROPOYETIN, AND INSULIN...
THOSE ARE THE "MAJOR LEAGUES" HORMONES... AND I ALSO TAKE
DHEA, AND MELATONIN, BUT NOT SO RELIGIOUSLY AS I TAKE HGH,
TESTOSTERONE, EPO, AND INSULIN... OF THE BIG FOUR, THE SINGLE
MOST IMPORTANT HORMONE IS INSULIN... IT IS ALSO THE LEAST EXPENSIVE
TO LEARN TO USE... TESTOSTERONE IS VERY GOOD... AND E.P.O. IS
FANTASTIC... AND OF COURSE GROWTH HORMONE IS PROBABLY THE MOST
DRAMATIC...

SOMEBODY ASKED ME WHICH HORMONE I THINK WILL GIVE THE BEST
RESULTS FOR ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE... GROWTH HORMONE, OR TESTOSTERONE,
OR EPO??? I GAVE HIM AN INTERESTING ANSWER, WHICH I WILL REPEAT
HERE: THEY ARE EACH TOTALLY DIFFERENT HORMONES... AND THEY EACH GIVE
TOTALLY DIFFERENT RESULTS... IN TERMS OF A RACE CAR:

1. TESTOSTERONE BUILDS STRENGTH... IT IS LIKE CHANGING A
FORD FOR A FERRARI...

2. GROWTH HORMONE REPAIRS EVERYTHING... IT IS LIKE CHANGING ALL
THE WORN OUT BALL BEARINGS OF THE WHEELS TO BRAND NEW BALL BEARINGS...

3. EPO INCREASES THE OXYGENIZATION IN THE BLOOD AND SO MORE
OXYGEN CAN GET TO ALL THE BODY... IT IS LIKE USING HIGH OCTANE
GASOLINE INSTEAD OF REGULAR GASOLINE...


4. INSULIN... IT IS NOT SO DRAMATIC IN THE SHORT RUN, BUT IT IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE IT PREVENTS OR SLOWS
DOWN DAMAGE TO THE CIRCULATORY SYSTEM, AND TO THE KIDNEYS, AND TO
THE NERVOUS SYSTEM... IT IS LIKE CAR WAX, AND AN OIL CHANGE, AND
A GOOD PAINT JOB, AND FLUSHING OUT THE RADIATOR...

READ THIS PAGE:

http://www.rajeun.net/sarcopenia.html

THANKS FOR WRITING...

- ELLIS]


P.S.... I AM NOW IN MADRID, IN A FEW DAYS I WILL RETURN TO
MEXICO... I AM IN AN INTERNET CAFE, TRYING TO ANSWER MORE POSTS
BEFORE YAHOO ERASES THEM... IF YOUR POST IS ERASED AND RETURNED
TO YOU, PLEASE SEND IT BACK...

P.P.S. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE IS DR. WARD DEAN? I WOULD
LIKE TO SEND HIM A MESSAGE... - ELLIS]