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RE: [Rejuvenation] Can anyone recommend a compounding Pharmacy for Testosterone Gel/cream?

Cathy-

I am an 80 year old male with five years experience with Testosterone;
first with sublingual lozenges then transdermal cream and now
Intramuscular injections (upper quadriceps region) of Testosterone
Cypionate.

The first two caused an astronomical increase in my DHT
(dihydrotestosterone) to over 6000. Testosterone Cypionate does not
have this effect.

I inject, on a weekly basis, 80mg (0.40ml of a 200mg/ml mix) of
Testosterone Cypionate. This brings my Free Testosterone into the
upper half of the reference range and restores my libido to where
it was decades ago.

From what I have read, the half life of Testosterone Cypionate in
the body is about one week.

The initial cost of T Cyp through my doctor was $40 for a 10ml vial
which is good for 25 injections. T Cyp is generic and cheap. As far
as I know, it does not have any adverse side effects and is used by
the Cenegenics Medical Institute in Las Vegas in their male hormone
replacement program.

It now costs me a $10 copay through BC/BS insurance
for a 10ml vial. I use a 25G 5/8 inch needle syringe.

Lee

[Hello Lee... I suggest you should also test for estradiol, and
if it is "high" which it might be because you are taking
testosterone, then take Arimidex which will lower estradiol
without any side effect. Otherwise, you are right on the button.

Are you also taking injectible growth hormone, or any other
hormones? Since you are 80 years old and well, I want you to
stay well. See your doctor and ask for a blood test and get a
Complete Blood Count, and a blood chemistry, and a PSA... also
test for INSULIN, (do not confuse with "glucose") and Hb-A1c.

If all is well there, then you are in great shape. If hematocrit
and hemoglobin are low, you have to tell your doctor to please
get them up.

Congratulations for being well and staying well longer than
most men your age... "When I grow up, I want to be like Lee
Sims..."

Thanks for writing.

- Ellis]






Fri Jun 3, 2005 9:13 pm

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My business partner and I share the same primary care physician. He was the first to ask her if she would recommend HGH in his case. She declined absolutely...
Don De Shon
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May 22, 2005
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Hello Chuck, Thanks for sending us these three studies, below, all of which oppose the idea that growth hormone causes diabetes. To me, the biggest support...
CHUCK FRASHER
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May 31, 2005
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Ellis, Metformin is definitely not sugar! I don't know where you got that information. There's not even 6 carbon atoms in one molecule of metformin, while...
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Jun 2, 2005
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Metformin does NOT stimultate insulin secretion, is not a sugar, and does not turn into a sugar. It is a hydrochloride. Metformin improves glucose tolerance...
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Jun 3, 2005
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Ellis, below is the chemical structure of metformin. As you can see, it looks nothing like a sugar. Sugars don't contain nitrogen, and metformin only has...
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My doctor wrote my husband a prescription for Androgel 5% but it costs $225 for a months supply, I heard it is much less expensive from compounding pharmacist,...
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Cathy- I am an 80 year old male with five years experience with Testosterone; first with sublingual lozenges then transdermal cream and now Intramuscular...
LeeSims
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Jun 5, 2005
2:46 pm

My brother is diabetic and was enrolled in a clinical trial about a year ago to test whether HGH would reduce insulin needs. He told me they attached an...
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May 31, 2005
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Ellis wrote: I think only one person has written to say that they discovered diabetes in him and asked if it might have been caused by having taken growth...
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