Ellis, Metformin is definitely not sugar! I don't know where
you got that information.

There's not even 6 carbon atoms in one molecule of metformin,
while glucose has a 6 carbon cycle.

See, metformin's chemical formula here:

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/metformi.htm

= ltkpn

[Hello ltkpn... well... as I said... I was guessing... but I
will tell you why this occurred to me... As I wrote, I bought a
1985 edition of "Joslin: Diabetes Mellitus"... There is a
chart of the "best" secretagogues for insulin release...
I was surprised to find the word "secretagogue" used for insulin
release, as until now I had only found it used to refer to HGH
release... but here it is in a 1985 diabetes textbook for doctors.

It says at the top of the chart: "Metabolism and Insulin Release
with combinations of Glucose and Fructose" and then it has
different combinations of Glucose and Fructose "stimulus
combination" and then the results. The "combination" that
worked the "best" was 8 parts glucose, 27.5 parts fructose
which is why I decided I would even bet metformin is two parts
glucose to seven parts fructose.

In any case, it would be rather Machiavellic, wouldn't it, to
give diabetics SUGAR to stimulate a release of insulin? I
thought to myself that would be just like an unscrupulous
person or company, to sell diabetics a little poison and claim
it is good for them. It would definitely stimulate the release
of insulin, so I thought to myself: why didn't I think of this
before?

So, ltkpn, if metformin isn't sugar then what IS metformin?
And how and why does it cause release of insulin? Is it possible
that once it combines with water in the intestines it forms
sugar? Because "sugar" or glucose is definitely what stimulates
the pancreas to release insulin.

In any case, I am against stimulating the pancreas to release
insulin, since I don't think that is very wise. I am trying to
prevent my pancreas from overworking on the theory that I might
be extending its life by keeping it still if I can inject the
right amount of insulin at the proper time.

It would really be extra-cruel to give diabetics "Glucophage" if
it is or becomes a type of sugar, wouldn't it? Please set my mind
at ease and tell me how you would describe metformin, does it even
look like a type of sugar or carbohydrate minus water to you?

(I can read that chemical structure in the link you give us, but I
don't know enough about the structure of sugar or carbohydrates, or
what becomes when you add water to metformin... I know that
carbohydrates means: "carbon plus water..." Would "metformin
hydrochloride plus water" give you "carbon plus water"?

- Ellis ]



Ellis wrote:

> Do you know what metformin IS??? Surprise! Read my next post,
> coming soon. Again, I am guessing, but: metformin is SUGAR!!!
>
> Pure, unadulterated GLUCOSE + FRUCTOSE, which is 100%
> SUGAR in my book... I will even bet it is two parts Glucose
> to seven parts Fructose! (I'll tell you soon how I reached
> this conclusion, in a different post....)