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Re: * * * HGH and Bone Death (Avascular Necrosis)

As a chronic Lyme disease patient who was misdiagnosed with CFS for many
years, if I were you I would try to see a Lyme knowledgeable physician
to get reliable determination as to whether or not you might have Lyme
disease.

CFS and Lyme can look exactly alike. One of the treatments for Lyme
disease , in addition to antbiotics, has been hyperbaric oxygen .

Ellen

[Thanks for the input... If hyperbaric oxygen can help, then I think
EPO can probably also help... If it works, it is less expensive than
several sessions of hyperbaric oxygen and the benefit of high oxygen
lasts 24 hours per day for several months. It is worth trying, I
think. - Ellis]


From: "Linda H. Wish"
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:51:01 -0400
Subject: [Rejuvenation] * * * HGH and Bone Death (Avascular Necrosis)


I have not been diagnosed with AVN, but I do have CFS and I have
had terrible, terrible pain in my foot bones and ankle and
sometimes up my legs from there; the growth hormone sadly has not
helped the pain at all. I need 180-200 mg a day of morphine, and
have for a long time (I've taken months off and then have to crawl
around on my hands and knees).

[Growth hormone is great, but it can't do everything, and who
knows what is the cause of your pain? Growth hormone helps
some persons like Peter Longmore with pain, perhaps by helping
to heal whatever was broken, but I don't know what causes your
pain or why growth hormone does or does not relieve anybody's
pain. - Ellis]

I do take supplemental oxygen - when I took the pure thing through
a mask it did get rid of the pain altogether for a few months. Then
the pain returned, and after a period of no supplemental oxygen, I
am now on 2-3 liters/min through a nasal cannula (but who knows
what percent of that is actually breathed in overnight), and I
definitely feel better on oxygen than off, and to go solely by
instinct, I'd say my bones were dying of insufficient oxygen
especially without supplemental oxygen.

[Well this certainly is interesting! If hyperbaric oxygen can
relieve your pain, then I think you have to check your hematocrit
and hemoglobin and perhaps it is lower than your body needs and
you could benefit from EPO (erithropoyetin, a hormone that raises
red blood cells.)

Please study these two pages and show them to your doctor.:

http://www.rajeun.net/hb.html

http://www.rajeun.net/bicycle.html

I hope this helps you. - Ellis]







Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:12 pm

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... There is plenty of literature that says that low testosterone causes severe bone loss so, if anything, your bone loss might be caused by the periods when...
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I have not been diasgnosed with AVN, but I do have CFS and I have had terrible, terrible pain in my foot bones and ankle and sometimes up my legs from there;...
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You might want to look into medical ozone if Oxygen is helpful...
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Ellis: My bone density INCREASED on growth hormone as measured by two DEXA tests. [Of course... I will bet you are two or three standard deviations above the...
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As a chronic Lyme disease patient who was misdiagnosed with CFS for many years, if I were you I would try to see a Lyme knowledgeable physician to get...
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There are many studies that relate corticosteroids to AVN. AVN is not easy to treat or recognize. There are no meds and ultimately surgery is required...
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AVN is basically death of bone tissue due to lack of blood supply. Many times the causes are unknown, however the use of prednisone has been asociated with ...
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... medical literature which would indicate whether or not HGH and/or Testosterone could possibly cause or exasperate an Avascular Necrosis (Osteonecrosis)...
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I don't think that anyone can really answer what a "dangerously" high hematocrit would be. It's probably different for each person. I suspect that most...
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I think there is an implicit assumption being made here that is totally false. That is that an MD is all knowing and has the corner on health knowledge. I...
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