I don't believe that my trigger finger was due to growth hormone.
It seems that it was due to the stress that tennis and weightlifting
placed on my hand and wrist.

[Well, Halleluyah, brother! I'm glad to hear you have concluded
that growth hormone was not the cause of your "trigger finger" !
- Ellis]


Improving my technique in these two activities, taking extra B6, and
acupuncture have improved by trigger finger 70%.

On the other hand, stopping my growth hormone injections did not help
my trigger finger. Moreover, my reduced growth hormone level adversely
affected my health. I had less energy and I my vision deteriorated.

Upon further interrogation of my acupuncturist I discovered that the
two patients, who reported that stopping human growth hormone cleared
up their trigger fingers, had AIDS. They did not resume the growth
hormone because they were taking many other treatments.

Further, I found a group of MIT medical researchers who claim that it
is extremely difficult to relate treatments to symptoms with AIDS
patients. They found that the symptoms often changed and the patients
were taking a variety of treatments.

Thus this anecdotal report of HGH causing trigger finger should be
viewed with much skepticism.

Thanks for your help.

Richard

[Three stars for this post, which is a continuation of another post
in which Richard was unsure if growth hormone might be the cause of
his trigger finger, and his accupuncturist pointed at two AIDS
patients whose trigger finger was improved after they suspended
growth hormone, so presumed that growth hormone was at fault.

I wonder how many other times growth hormone has been incorrectly
blamed for causing trigger finger, or some other side effect... such
as... DIABETES... And then, they ANNOUNCE to the world their new
observation and this misinformation then floats about on the internet.

The same thing happens with INSULIN. I know somebody who has
Diabetes Type 2... his doctor does NOT want him to take his glucose
levels every day, once a month is enough (before breakfast, of
course !!!) So, according to him, his diabetes is under control
because his glucose levels are about 120, on that one time per month
that he checks before breakfast ! According to him or his doctor,
there is nothing to worry about because his glucose is only 120 !
So... he can still take it easy for a few more years.

This person told me that he hopes he will not have to use insulin,
because he REMEMBERS that when his father started to use insulin,
that is when his problems started!

So... just imagine his father, not using insulin for many years
with uncontrolled diabetes raging in his body. When he gets
bad symptoms and nothing else works, his doctor finally allows
him to use insulin. By this time, his pancreas is shot... his
kidneys are shot... his circulatory system is shot... he already
has damaged his nervous system. At this point he starts to take
insulin and it doesn't do much for him, because insulin doesn't
REPAIR the damage, it only might prevent glucose from rising too
high.

But what good does preventing a fire from rising too high do,
if the building has already been on fire for years and nobody
bothered to call the fire department? They want to fight fire
with a few buckets of water, and then when they finally call the
fire department they say it doesn't work because they don't also
repair the building. - Ellis]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Smith & Diana Cook" <smithcook@...>
To: <Rejuvenation@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:17 PM
Subject: [spamcatcher] [Rejuvenation] * * * Trigger Finger & HGH


> Thanks for your great recommendation. After 3 days
> of 200mg B6 my trigger finger is 65% better. A
> stiff big toe, that has bothered me for years, is
> also better. I have restarted my HGH at 0.8IU/day,
> 2/3 of my prior level.
>
> With great appreciation to Flively, Ellis, & the
> Rejuvenation Forum.
>
> Richard
>
> [Hello Richard... Score another point for good
> advice received on Rejuvenation ! Wow! I'm
> impressed! I'm glad that vitamin B helped you
> and that you have almost fixed the problem.
> Maybe you had a vitamin B deficiency?
>
> I got more excited about Vitamin B, myself, after
> I wrote the reply about Sarcopenia. (It has always
> been said that a teacher learns from his students, and
> a writer learns from his own writing.) Vitamin B
> is very good for the nervous system, and I have always
> known that the nervous system is extremely important.
> But until I put together my anti-sarcopenia program,
> I had never really understood that the health of the
> muscular system depends upon the health of the
> nervous system .
>
> (By the way, I think my anti-sarcopenia program
> is the only really good anti-sarcopenia program I
> have found on the internet... the rest are...
> shall I say... elementary... little league... Some
> are written by doctors, but reading them gives me
> the impression they are very shallow, as if they
> didn't really stop to think about it... beyond the
> obvious recommendation to do weight lifting exercises,
> they come up with a score of total BLANK...)
>
> http://www.rajeun.net/sarcopenia.html
>
> Without wishing to brag, I wrote my anti-aging
> program in August, 1998, and the anti-sarcopenia
> program is just a re-statement of six of the
> eight original points I wrote in August, 1998,
> with a focus on nerve loss and consequent muscle
> atrophy. If you have been following my anti-aging
> program, you have also been doing good for your
> nervous system, thus for your muscular system.
>
> Thus, I am sure you have kept your glucose levels under
> control...
>
> you have been doing daily exercise (even if it
> that is only walking...)
>
> you have taken your vitamins and minerals every day
>
> you have had a few EDTA chelation therapies to clean
> out your circulatory system
>
> and you have replaced the important hormones:
>
> growth hormone
>
> testosterone (testosterone is important for women
> and men, in different doses)
>
> estrogen and/or progesterone (estrogen is not good
> for men, progesterone is important for women and men)
>
> EPO
>
> insulin
>
> DHEA
>
> melatonin
>
> thyroid...
>
> And you have taken your Deprenyl, hydregine, piracetam,
> and of course you have taken a few Hyperbaric Oxygen
> therapies...
>
> Yes, I have done all of that, and I'm pretty sure it
> must have helped me a lot, because I really can see
> and feel it.
>
> Sometimes I feel like I am a millionaire, counting my
> money in front of the poor people... but that is
> because GOOD HEALTH is better than all the money in
> the world, any day... John D. Rockefeller and Howard
> Hughes have all the money in the world, except they
> are both DEAD... so anybody reading this is richer than
> John D. Rockefeller or Howard Hughes... get it?!!
>
> And I can't help but notice that I have a million
> dollars worth of good health... no... a billion
> dollars... and many of my peers (nearly 59 years old)
> have much less than I do. It hurts me to see them
> growing old, it really does. I wish I could tell them,
> and many times I do tell them... but they don't
> believe me. They see me, but they still don't believe
> me. They say they will ask their doctor, and then
> I KNOW they will never believe me.
>
> (You probably know my opinion of "doctors"... They know
> more about medicine than I do, but I know more about
> anti-aging therapies than most of them... and as soon as
> somebody says they will ask their doctor, I know their
> doctor will either send the whole idea to hell, or take
> over the "business"... and it IS a business... and
> usually, they do NOT prescribe what I would do... they
> prescribe everything that is very expensive, even if it
> is not important... they even do NOT prescribe growth
> hormone BECAUSE there are OTHER therapies that are MORE
> EXPENSIVE than growth hormone!!! Not BETTER... just,
> more EXPENSIVE!!!
>
> I KNOW THIS IS TRUE. SEVERAL DOCTORS HAVE TOLD ME, THIS
> IS THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T PRESCRIBE GROWTH HORMONE.)
>
> I place ads in different places inviting people to
> find out about anti-aging therapies... and some people
> call me up, but when they hear the word "growth hormone"
> or "testosterone" they run the other way.
>
> "I take INSULIN and I am not a diabetic" is sure to make
> them think I am crazy.
>
> And EPO... that just confirms it.
>
> But I'm not crazy... I am 100% certain I am doing
> good things for my body, and my body shows it.
>
> If YOU haven't done all of that, but you have
> done some of that, I am confident you are better
> off than if you haven't done any of it.
>
> I know that a lot of what I do is "controversial"
> especially taking insulin and taking EPO... but I am not
> trying to convince you to take it, I only want you
> to THINK about it:
>
> If I am so crazy, how come I am so HEALTHY???
>
> I remind you that I do NOT sell insulin, and the reason
> I don't sell insulin is precisely because I don't want
> anybody to say they took insulin because I sold it to them,
> then they misused it. It is simple to learn to use, and I
> will teach you for free in the sincere hope that it will
> help you... but I won't sell it to you. It isn't difficult
> to buy, if you can convince a doctor to give you a
> prescription... (I have read that you can buy insulin
> without a prescription in some states in the U.S.A. but I
> don't know if that is true or false) and most doctors know
> less about insulin than they know about growth hormone, so
> that is another way to say they know ZERO about insulin...
> but they THINK they know a lot... especially, they "know"
> that it is a LAST RESORT... which, in Dr. Bernstein's
> opinion, this is a big mistake.
>
> ANYWAYS... as I was saying... (a long time ago).
>
> I REALLY DO LIKE VITAMIN B!!!
>
> Three stars for this post, so you can find it someday.
>
> Ellis Toussier
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: fllively
> To: Rejuvenation@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rejuvenation] * * * Trigger Finger & HGH
>
>
> vitamin b6 200mg daily. works almost immediately
> Dick Smith & Diana Cook wrote:
>
> I have been injecting 1.2 IU of HGH for the
> past 4 years with excellent results. 8 months
> ago my small right finger become stiff and
> painful. Two months later it started to catch
> when I flexed it and caused a sharp pain.
> An orthopedic MD hand specialist diagnosed it
> as trigger finger. He recommended immobilizing
> it at night, which I did. However, it didn't
> improve. A physical therapist stretched and
> massaged it, which helped some.
>
> Today an acupuncturist I visited said she had
> two trigger finger clients, who didn't respond
> to acupuncture. However, their trigger fingers
> cleared completely within a few weeks when
> they stopped taking HGH.
>
> Has anyone heard of this association? I plan
> to stop HGH for a couple weeks and if my trigger
> finger improves restart HGH at a lower dosage.
>
> I welcome your thoughts and /or suggestions.
>
> [Hello Dick. I have never heard of this, but
> I think you are doing exactly what I would do...
> lower or stop the dose of HGH, and come back
> at a lower dose, later... Also... I suggest you
> should take injectible Vitamin B, which is good
> for the nervous system, and has been said to be
> good for carpal tunnel syndrome. Vitamin B in
> pill form is usually not as effective, because
> Vitamin B-12 is very difficult to absorb into
> body by pill form. (I don't know why that is so,
> but that is what I have read many times.)
>
> Let us know what happens... Thanks for writing...
>
> Three stars for this post, because I think it is
> important if it turns out to be a "side effect"...
>
> Ellis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> See my personal anti-aging program which you are welcome to follow, here:
>
> http://www.rajeun.net/rejuvenation.html
>
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