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Re: [Rejuvenation] Re:* * * Crossing the U.S. border with HGH

Ellis and Ed,

About the conversation with the customs inspector described below,
in which he talked about how corrupt the FDA is . . . This might be
his sincere opinion, but bear in mind that the inspector is
ultimately a policeman, and his job is to detect crimes. He is
under no obligation to tell the truth.

I read a book called "Verbal Judo," written by a policeman,
about how to get people to agree with you without using direct
physical force on them. One of the things he talks about is
pretending to take the side of the other guy, and being all
sympathetic, in the hope that he will then volunteer information
because he feels like the cop is his friend.

In this case, the Customs inspector might have been trying
to get Jerry to talk about other things he might have brought from
Mexico, to get around the FDA.

Don't ever say anything lightly to a person in authority.

Mike Lenker

Hello Mike... You are absolutely right. I also thought to myself
that it was very strange that a Customs official should talk
badly about the F.D.A., with which he probably has to collaborate
or consult with, sometimes.

In any case, the important thing about this experience is that Jerry
got through Customs without a problem, and without lying or hiding
his growth hormone. It is not an illegal drug, it is made in the
U.S.A. and there is no reason to be scared that you bought it
legally. Jerry Emanuelson also had a prescription. - Ellis

ed conley wrote:

shipping issues? has anybody had a problem crossing the border
with HGH?

Ed Conley

Ellis: Hello Ed... I paste this by Jerry Emanuelson:

From: Jerry Emanuelson
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008
To: Ellis Toussier

Hello Ellis,

Although I didn't have any significant problem in returning with
my Humatrope and Protophin, some unexpected things did happen, and
the information may be useful for others.

The first unexpected thing was that at the standard X-ray search
of carry-on items at the Mexico City airport, the inspector saw the
vials of medicine on the X-ray, and asked that the items be looked
at by another inspector. The other inspector immediately pulled out
one of the vials and inspected it closely. I showed her my
prescriptions. She compared the prescriptions with the labels on
the vials and was satisfied, and I went on my way.

Continental Airlines did their own complete inspection of carry-on
items since they could not be sure that the Mexican inspection would
always meet U.S. Transportation Security Administration standards.

The Continental Airlines inspector found the vials and looked at
them closely. I showed her the prescriptions, and she was immediately
satisfied, and I boarded the plane.

On the flight from Mexico City to my intermediate stop in Houston,
I thought a lot about exactly what to write, if anything, on my U.S.
customs form. I decided that the best thing to do was to declare the
Humatrope and Protophin as "MEDICATIONS PRESCRIBED FOR ME BY A
MEDICAL DOCTOR IN MEXICO" and declared the value at $300. This
turned out to be the very best thing to do.

When going through customs in Houston, most U.S. citizens were let
through after a few seconds of conversation with the customs agent.

When I approached the customs booth, their was a "ding" on an alarm
signifying that it was exactly 3 p.m. At this particular booth, I was
informed that I had been randomly selected for thorough and detailed
screening by customs, and I was sent to a separate area for a
detailed screening.

The customs agent who did the detailed screening asked about the
vials of medicine, I showed him my prescriptions, and he seemed
satisfied about the way that I had declared them on the customs form.
Then the customs agent started talking about how the FDA was a
thoroughly corrupt agency that approved all of the bad medicines, and
blocked all of the good medicines, and that people were wise to buy
their medicines in Mexico. He did a very through inspection of all my
luggage, but during the whole time our entire conversation was about
how awful and corrupt the FDA was, so I wasn't worrying about my
prescription medicine getting through customs.

When I first made my trip, I thought that the worst thing that could
happen would be to be randomly selected for one of these detailed
customs inspections on the return trip; but it turned out that I was
selected, and it was no problem at all.

After going through U.S. customs, everyone had to be re-screened for
dangerous items by the U.S. TSA. The U.S. screener didn't see, or
wasn't concerned by, the vials of medicine that went through the
X-ray screening at Houston.

I would recommend that others returning with medicines purchased in
Mexico make a customs declaration that is very similar to what I did.

I have since learned that customs agents become especially suspicious
of items that they find that are not declared. I think that it was
also a good thing that I only brought the vials of medicine back with
me, and I did not bring the liquid diluyents back with me. The U.S.
TSA is very suspicious of any mysterious liquids brought onto planes.

Jerry Emanuelson



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