Hi Ellis:

HCG injections were used in "Weight Loss Clinics" for many years
in the 1970's and early 1980's, fell out of popularity when studies
showed that the diet and exercise portions of these programs were
the real reason for the weight loss.......and they disappeared.

For probably financial reasons only, combined with gullible and
naive overweight women these HCG weight loss clinics seemed to have
made a comeback in the last few years.

I reviewed the scientific articles on the effectiveness of HCG in
promoting bodyfat loss, and I found there was NONE.

Lost "19 pounds" of what?.... more than likely water.

This gal is estrogen, DHEA, and testosterone deficient. The
progesterone value makes no sense and is either a typing error,
or the lab is really way off. Maybe she meant to say 0.29, which
would be pretty typical for a post-menopausal woman which this
woman is.


That her doctor is recommending Sermorelin and not bio-identical
Bi-Est, Progesterone, Testosterone and DHEA creams indicates that
he is clueless.

Randy Ice P.T, C.C.S.
Vintage Medical Group
Temecula, Calif.
(951) 676-3748


Ellis: Hello Randy. I AGREE WITH YOU: her doctor is clueless.
Linda, I suggest you should consult with Randy Ice, see telephone
and address above. Randy, thanks for your comments. As usual,
you and I are both on the same wavelength.

I have learned A LOT from Randy Ice. If I would ever be
seriously ill, he would be one of the first persons I would
consult, and I would listen to his advice because in this
world of doctors and experts who contradict each other, you
have to decide WHO WILL I BELIEVE...

As I have said many times before: I believe the Glucose Meter...

and I also believe Randy Ice...- Ellis



________________________________________________________________________
1. So many options, I'm confused...
Posted by: "Linda"
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:24 pm ((PST))

Hello Ellis,

Linda: First, I have to say how much I enjoy this group!! Your
information is greatly appreciated.

Ellis: Thanks for the nice words. - Ellis

Linda: Okay, I just finished HCG 3 weeks ago. Lost 19 lbs. GREAT!

Ellis: Wait... You took HCG and you LOST 19 lbs... ? I didn't
know that HCG ("human corionic gonadotropin"... a hormone found
in the urine of pregnant women, that helps a woman to ovulate
and helps males to produce more testosterone...) is good for
weight loss... Why does it cause weight loss?


Linda: After doing the shots for 2 weeks, "I" just couldn't do it
to myself any more, so I went to the Dr.'s place where I signed up
for it and made them do it, or my girlfriend would. I felt like a
pin cusion. Rubbing my legs right after helped alot! Too bad they
don't tell you that at first. I had to start doing my hips too,
to alternate.

Ellis: Too bad they didn't tell you WHAT?


Linda: Heres my stats:

I'm 46, Female

3 menstral periods in the last 2 years, (hotflashes yeah!)

5'5", 126 lbs.

Hematocrit 44.5 Hemoglobin 15.5

total Testosterone 21

IGF - 1 132

DHEA 156

Estrogen total - 27

progesterone, serum - 29

HDL - 74

HDL - 122

total cholesterol- 215

triglycerides 93

Linda: My Dr. said that I would be a good candidate for Sermorelin
since cancer doesn't run in my family.


Ellis: Your doctor doesn't know what he is saying, but he says it
anyways. What would he say if "cancer does run" in your family?

Linda: Same think that Dion said...


I'm totally confused with all the products. However, I do like
the cool click idea, can that be used with Sermorelin?

Ellis: The feed back that we have received on Rejuvenation from
persons who used HGH and then used Sermorelin is that Sermorelin
does not compare to HGH. Your doctor doesn't know what he is
saying, but of course he says it anyways.


Linda: And is that the right thing for me to take?? I have no idea.

Ellis: I would not recommend Sermorelin (growth hormone stimulating
hormone)... but your doctor recommends it... so please try it...
then try injectible growth hormone... I am curious to know who you
will think is right, after you have tried both: your doctor, or
Ellis.

Thanks for writing. - Ellis