Ellis how much test do you use in mgs ?


Ellis: I take 200 mgs. Enanthate, or 250 mgs. Sostenon
(which is a mix of cypionate, propionate, enanthate, and
nandralone), and one pill of Arimidex whenever I inject
testosterone.

Kasey: What forms of exercise do you use? If any ?

Ellis: I have some barbells and some dumbbells in my
home, and I am a member of a sports club with a very
complete gymnasium, which I go to about 20 or 30 times
per year. I often lift weights in my house, but not a
lot of weight and not for very long... but I walk fast
when I have occasion to walk... and I go up stairs
fast when I have occasion to go up stairs..

That's not a lot of what you would call exercise,
but I'm still very nimble.

Kasey: JC, how long have you been on your cuurent
cycle 3 on 2 off? How much gear? I am 46 215 20 % BF l
ooking to run a similar program. Goal 215 10% bf w
excellent labs and feel geat. thanks - Kasey Tibor
kaseytibor(at)yahoo.com


Ellis: Well, I am 63 and I think I look about 50, (or
45...) and in my opinion I feel like 25. The single
most important point of my eight point program is KEEP
YOUR BLOOD GLUCOSE IN CHECK... That means EAT CORRECTLY.

The next most important is TAKE THE CORRECT DOSE OF
GROWTH HORMONE EVERY DAY, and THE CORRECT DOSE OF
INSULIN SEVERAL TIMES EVERY DAY (which helps keep blood
glucose in check, together with eat correctly...) and
THE CORRECT DOSE OF TESTOSTERONE perhaps 30 times per
year, and THE CORRECT DOSE OF EPO about once a month.

You will notice that "DO EXERCISE" is NOT one of the
most important parts of my program, although I am
totally in favor of it... I applaud you if you do
a lot of exercise, but I am too lazy to do it myself.
But sometimes I get the urge to lift weights and I
lift weights for a while, in my home.

The ULTIMATE GOAL of my program is "DO NOT LOSE
YOUR BRAIN AND NEURONS (practically, the same...)"
Eating correctly, and taking the Big Four (there
are Five, but I only take four...) Hormones helps
not to lose neurons. Each of the four hormones I
take is probably very important in order not to
lose neurons.

In principle, exercise also helps to keep blood
glucose in check, but I hardly do organized exercise,
I do what comes without much effort.

I have A LOT OF CUSTOMERS who do a lot of exercise,
and they have a lot better looking body than I do.
But at age 63, I have the best looking body that * I *
have ever had in my life, and that is good enough for
me. I have 17% body fat, and that is not so good, but
it is not so bad. That probably puts me in the upper
10% of the population, which is not going to win any
beauty contests, but I'm well enough, thanks. As
long as my girl friend likes me, I don't need to
win any contest.

And... I have not gotten ONE bad cold in 10 years.
Sometimes a few unlucky germs venture into my body and
cause me to sniffle a bit, but they die soon after...
but they have not knocked me down in 10 years. That
is pretty good. I don't worry that growth hormone
"might" cause me to get cancer... I will worry about
cancer AFTER I have gotten a bad cold, someday.

And I am still a sex fiend... and I don't need viagra
to function properly. That is a sign that I am still
well, physically. I would like to go down in history
books as the OLDEST DIRTY OLD MAN, with emphasis on
the DIRTY OLD MAN.

Confessions of The Amazing Dirty Old Man
http://www.rajeun.net/confessions.html

If I should die tomorrow, I would be grateful that
my 8 point program has extended my youth and good
health for at least 10 years, because I have never
been an Old Man in my life, not even one day of my
63 year old life. That is unbelievable...

But mostly, it is "EAT CORRECTLY" and "TAKE YOUR
HORMONES" that you have to concentrate on.

See my pages:
The Big Five
http://www.rajeun.net/big5.html

Rejuvenation
http://www.rajeun.net/rejuvenation.html

Glucose Theory of Aging
http://www.rajeun.net/glucose.html

Using Insulin
http://www.rajeun.net/usinginsulin.html

Using Lantus
http://www.rajeun.net/usinglantus.html

Anti Aging Diet
http://www.rajeun.net/aadiet.html

Carbohydrate Thermometer
http://www.rajeun.net/carbotherm.html

Pretty Incredible pages, don't you think?
ESPECIALLY, the Glucose Theory of Aging, and
The Carbohydrate Thermometer, those pages
are un-be-lievable... in outer space...

- Ellis
The Man With the legendary Ego
http://www.rajeun.net/ego.html





----- Original Message ----
From: Gerald Cassidy
To: Rejuvenation@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:26:20 PM
Subject: [Rejuvenation] * * * Cycles or No Cycles: HGH, EPO, Insulin, and
Testosterone


Hello Ellis.
I have a question I think you haven't addressed. I am a
bodybuilder and I believe in your studies.

My question is: I don't read of any cycles. For instance, I use
test for 3 months... Arimidex, Winstrol or deca, then I stop. I let
my natural test build up with HCG or mentropin then I will start in
2 months again, always using 2iu of HGH.

I'm 48 yrs old, 9% fat, 200 lbs

Can you shed some knowledge? thanx jc

Ellis: Hello JC,

You didn't ask a question. You said I don't have any cycles,
and so I suppose you want me to give you a cycle. I don't
have any cycles. I take growth hormone every single day, I
don't cycle it. I have taken growth hormone every single day
without fail, for more than 10 years (since June, 1998)

So... that leaves other hormones.

I don't cycle EPO. I take the amount that is necessary to keep
my red blood cells up to 52% to 54%. In seven or eight years
since I began to use EPO, I have kept my red blood cells in this
range with about one shot of EPO every month, sometimes a little
bit more than one month...

I monitor my blood for red blood cells ("Hematocrit" and
"Hemoglobin" ) about once a year, and I look at myself in the
mirror every day so I can see how my red blood cells are doing
(I can tell, by the color of my skin... If I look "sun tan" that
means I have a good amount of red blood cells... If my face
looks a bit too sun tanned, a bit too brown, that means my red
blood cells are at about 55% red blood cells, so I don't take
any more EPO.

So... that is not a cycle, that is the amount of EPO that I need
to keep my red blood cells between 52% and 55%, 365 days a year,
for the rest of my life if possible.

As for insulin... I don't "cycle" insulin. I take Lantus,
slow acting long lasting insulin, once in the morning, every
morning, and once before I go to sleep. And I take Humalog,
fast acting short lasting insulin, either before I eat or after
I eat, if I have a peak in my glucose levels. I have taken
so many blood glucose tests (probably more than 15,000 in
nearly 8 years) that I can predict how much a meal that I am
going to eat will raise my blood glucose... If I was Dr. Bernstein,
I simply wouldn't eat it... but I am not Dr. Bernstein. So I eat
it anyways... (maybe fruit with cottage cheese and yoghurt for
dessert... maybe chocolate ice cream... maybe a bit of
bread and cheese... etc.)

I know what is my poison, and I eat it anyways, but I don't eat
a lot of it. If I do not take insulin, my blood glucose might
rise to 130... if I do take insulin, my blood glucose stays
below 100. Ideally, I would like to have my blood glucose about
85 mg/dl.

To put this into perspective: if I would drink ONE GLASS OF ORANGE
JUICE, my blood glucose goes to about 150 or 160... If I would
eat ONE SLICE OF PIZZA, my blood glucose goes to about 160, and
higher with a second slice. If I would ask a DIABETES SPECIALIST
(God forbid) of the American Diabetes Association persuasion his
opinion of 130, he would say that 130 is GREAT and it is NORMAL...

Dr. Bernstein would say it is too high, and I agree with Dr.
Bernstein, it is too high... so I inject the correct dose of fast
acting insulin to get it down to 85 mg/dl as fast as possible.

I inject insulin several times every day, so that is not "cycling".

And I don't cycle testosterone. Body builders cycle testosterone,
but that is because they are taking a much higher dose than I am.
I take about 30 shots of testosterone per year, with one pill of
Arimidex at the same time I take the shot... and I have done that
for about 7 years, with almost no side effect.

The side effect that I have noticed is that it has made my
testicles smaller... not the size of a small marble... they are
about the size of a large pigeon egg. Sometimes I stop taking
testosterone completely for three months, and I take HCG and
this makes my testicles grow a bit... but there is nothing that
feels as nice as being alive and horney with testosterone. When
I see a pretty woman I still get wild thoughts in my mind... if
I can do something about it, I do... and if I can't, it stays in
my mind... but that is GOOD because it means I am ALIVE and WELL.
I am happy to say, I really AM a Dirty Old (63 years old) Man, if
only in my (wet) dreams.

So that is the reason why I don't have cycles. But if you would
like to discuss a cycle of testosterone, go ahead and send it to
us. I am not a good person to comment on it, because I am not a
body builder... but it will be interesting for us to learn from
you, so you be the expert and teach us.

Thanks for writing. - Ellis