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#30 From: "cheryl_c47" <cherylamarillo@...>
Date: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:42 am
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--- In Recovery-World-OCD@yahoogroups.com, Programgal@... wrote:
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> I eat compulsivley too. I will look into this other group. I am happy to be
>  talking to you but dissapointed that no one else here shares.  love,Joy
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I am compulsvie with shopping, eating  and have a problem with discpline,
looking for a group for support

#29 From: Programgal@...
Date: Tue May 5, 2009 2:56 pm
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Thanks !! love,Joy

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I eat compulsivley too. I will look into this other group. I am happy to be talking to you but dissapointed that no one else here shares. love,Joy

#27 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Tue May 5, 2009 3:24 pm
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and another group ocd

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pure_o_ocd/

maybe you can finde there something for you

love
Dorota


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Envoyé le : Dimanche, 3 Mai 2009, 5h36mn 19s
Objet : Re: [Recovery-World-OCD] Re

Dear Dorota, I do understand what is going on. When I get overwhelmed about anything my anxiety increases so much and my OCD acts up. Anymore it is all up everyday. All I can do is to say to try to take the day an hour at a time if you need to. Try not to think about what you have to do all day or all morning. Sometimes it helps me to calm down some if I can do that.
There are days when I feel like giving up. But somehow I find some hope. I try to think about my daughter and how much she needs me and how I hope to get better.
Is there anyone else here on this loop ? We can all use some experience, strength, and hope. love,Joy



#26 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Tue May 5, 2009 3:11 pm
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Hi  Joy
yesterday and today I was eating very very compulsively

I loose control

I have found another group OCD and that one is very active
I invite you to join this group with me

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/OCD-Support/

good day
Dorota


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Objet : Re: [Recovery-World-OCD] Re

Dear Dorota, I do understand what is going on. When I get overwhelmed about anything my anxiety increases so much and my OCD acts up. Anymore it is all up everyday. All I can do is to say to try to take the day an hour at a time if you need to. Try not to think about what you have to do all day or all morning. Sometimes it helps me to calm down some if I can do that.
There are days when I feel like giving up. But somehow I find some hope. I try to think about my daughter and how much she needs me and how I hope to get better.
Is there anyone else here on this loop ? We can all use some experience, strength, and hope. love,Joy



#25 From: Programgal@...
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 11:36 pm
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Dear Dorota, I do understand what is going on. When I get overwhelmed about anything my anxiety increases so much and my OCD acts up. Anymore it is all up everyday. All I can do is to say to try to take the day an hour at a time if you need to. Try not to think about what you have to do all day or all morning. Sometimes it helps me to calm down some if I can do that.
There are days when I feel like giving up. But somehow I find some hope. I try to think about my daughter and how much she needs me and how I hope to get better.
Is there anyone else here on this loop ? We can all use some experience, strength, and hope. love,Joy

#24 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 8:42 pm
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Dear Joy
today I was obsessive by the clothes, I wanted to finish to iron but there was too many clothes
I was scared that if I won't do this all will be destroyed, I even don't know why I am scared so much
I feel I must finish it
I haven't finished, I was so tired that I simply could't do nothing
I let go now
I think that for me many things which are very easy for others are very difficult for me
this panick and obsession makes me tired and exhausted
I hope that the world won't be finished because of this

that's true that my childhood was a hell
and I am still in this hell, but now it is much better anyway

love
Dorota


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Objet : Re: [Recovery-World-OCD] thanks

Dear Dorota, I always worry about doing things perfectly. That comes from childhood and being punished for not doing things to their liking. I always second guess myself about things and get obsessed about if I am doing something good enough or the right way.  I have a great meditation book for ACOA called Days of Healing, Days of Joy, there is great stuff in it. Our childhoods were terrible. I grew up in an alcoholic home plus was sexually abused. I know that partly why I have the OCD and other disorders. At least we have each other to share with. love,Joy


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#23 From: Programgal@...
Date: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:47 am
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Dear Dorota, I always worry about doing things perfectly. That comes from childhood and being punished for not doing things to their liking. I always second guess myself about things and get obsessed about if I am doing something good enough or the right way.  I have a great meditation book for ACOA called Days of Healing, Days of Joy, there is great stuff in it. Our childhoods were terrible. I grew up in an alcoholic home plus was sexually abused. I know that partly why I have the OCD and other disorders. At least we have each other to share with. love,Joy


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#22 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:36 am
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Dear Joy
thanks for you
thanks that you are here for me

today I was cleaning the loundry,
I have done it very well
but I was doing it compulsively
there is always fear anybody I do
I don't know why
maybe that I wouldn't do it good and I will be punished
maybe that it has to be done very quickly because there is so many things that I have to control

I just read the book "From Survival to Recovery" for adult children of alcoholics
it's true that my childhood was like this: how to survive?

all the suffer from the childhood like this is inmaginable

that's good that you are here
thanks
Dorota



#21 From: Programgal@...
Date: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:59 pm
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Dear Dorota, I really understand how you feel. Some days I feel so discouraged with having this illness, today is one of them, I feel hopeless sometimes but I try my best to do what I can, I care about you, please keep in touch with me. I am here for you, I care. love,Joy


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#20 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:42 am
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Dear Joy
I have gone out for my weekend
I have spent a good time with my friends, maybe it's better to say I could spend very good time with my friends, but I am incapable to profit my time

this weekend I have realized how much I am ill
and that I don't really know how long I can live with it
I am so scared all the time


the message of hope is that I decided to do what I can even if it is almost nothing, because it is already very good to have good will and to try
it makes that I can feel much more safe with me

thanks
Dorota


#19 From: Programgal@...
Date: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:10 am
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Dear Dorota, Your share touched me a lot. I do tell myself at times that I have an illness just like the person who has diabetes,etc, except that this is mental. How could I not have problems with having been sexually abused for five years while growing up,etc. Its not my fault that I have this problem. I agree that I need to have more compassion for myself just like I would have compassion for anyone else who suffers this way. love in recovery,Joy


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#18 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:47 am
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Dear Joy,
for me it is so difficult too,
all my life I wanted to be perfect
and it was not possible for me to accept that there is something wrong with me
I needed to be strong

I am now 33 and I feel I have lost everything and it will never be better
now I learn to love me with my illness, and even because of my illness
I try to learn to don't want to be perfect
I try to learn to don't need to be perfect
when there is something about what I loose control; for example my thoughts, my obsessional behaviors, I simply try to feel compassion with myself
I talk to me, I tell me that I am very ill and that I understand how much I suffer and that if I could do something to make me better I would do it but I can't
sometimes the compassion is all that we can do
sometimes the compassion is all that we need

I think that that little girl within me won't be better until I give her my compassion
she wants to find somebody who can understand how much she suffers, because it shouldn't be forgotten
she wants to hear that she is ill, and because of this illness I will deal with her in a special manner
it means that I won't expect that she does things which are impossible for her; and that I will give her more love and more care

love
Dorota


#17 From: Programgal@...
Date: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:50 am
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Dear Dorota, I think I am having a hard time with accepting the OCD. I have had it since childhood and I am 47 now. I know I should think of it like someone who has diabetes, high blood pressure,etc, that its an illness that I just have to deal with. But it is so tiring, especially all of the unwanted thoughts that go through my head. I wish there was a magic pill to make it all go away !! love,Joy


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#16 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:33 am
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Hi everybody
Hi Joy
there is nobody who write
but today I need to write

I am completely lost
the things are powerfull over me
I start to wash my clothes and I can't finish it because I think that maybe I HAVE TO also wash my coverlet, and my mattress etc
I start to cleen my room and I can't finish it because I HAVE TO do it perfectly, in every corner
I feel that I HAVE TO burn my personal notes, and I do that even if I am not sure of it, and after that I am scared that I did something wrong; and that I have lost something important

I have something to do and I NEED TO do it just now; I am scared that it is not done

I COULD NOT STOP

I COULD NOT WAIT

one thing that I can try to do that is to accept my illeness and to forgive me all that I do wrong because of it

have a nice day

Dorota


#15 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:49 pm
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Hi Joy
Yes I think my meds help
they are only the meds, they will not heal me, but they can help me to do my therapy
without the meds I could't find the strength for looking at me in my recovery process

but unfortunately I am also an alcoholic, and for me maybe it's not good to take the meds; because my obsession to drink come back
but otherwise I think that the meds can be very useful
sometimes without them things are unbearables

for me also take a decision to buy or to chose something to wear; to eat etc it's makes me crazy, and after it I am allways mad, angry at me, discontented with me etc
I am just sick and I am just tired with my sickness
I know very well what you feel and you know very well what I feel
and thanks for this

hi
Dorota



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Dear Dorota, My obsessions make my life misreable too. Even with simple things like choosing what to wear or buy, there is always an unwanted or intrusive thought that goes with it, like you will die of you wear that,etc. I too take meds for panic and also depression, Do you find your meds help? love,Joy


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#14 From: Programgal@...
Date: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:59 pm
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Dear Dorota, My obsessions make my life misreable too. Even with simple things like choosing what to wear or buy, there is always an unwanted or intrusive thought that goes with it, like you will die of you wear that,etc. I too take meds for panic and also depression, Do you find your meds help? love,Joy


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#13 From: Chen Zhen <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:55 pm
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Dear Joy
thanks for your answer
I have visited Yahoo groups and now I know a little how it works
I saw that there are not many post
I need to listen and to write
I need to support of somebody
my life is unmanageable, that's sure
I have many issueses and I am very chaotic person

my obsessions make my life very difficult
sometimes that are not big things but they are so many
for example today I had an idea to call my family
I had started and I couldn't finished because each time I remembered another person to whom I MUST CALL,
the result was that I couldn't enjoy the company of my friends because during the easter party I was all the time on the phone
then I was very tired and nervous, I took the medecines for panic attacs
then I started to call again

I feel it wasn't good, even if the people were very glad that I call them
I was just very scared that if I will not call them they will be mad, nervous, they will be angry at me etc

it's impossible to phone all people
I am not responsible for the sentiments of others

thanks
Dorota



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Objet : Re: [Recovery-World-OCD] hello

Dear Dorata, I dont know if this group is usually quiet or if its just because of the holidays. Please feel free to write to me privatley if you wish. It would be nice to have a friend who knows what this is like. Love,Joy  programgal@aol. com.


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#12 From: Programgal@...
Date: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:51 am
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Dear Dorata, I dont know if this group is usually quiet or if its just because of the holidays. Please feel free to write to me privatley if you wish. It would be nice to have a friend who knows what this is like. Love,Joy  programgal@....


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#11 From: "chengmiumoon@..." <chengmiumoon@...>
Date: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:25 am
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Hi. My name is Dorota.
I am 33 years old.
I am new there and I don't understand yet how it works

like Joy I have OCD, I was sexually and emotionally abused, I grew up in an
alcoholic home, I suffer from panic disorder and PTSD

I hope I could find some help there
Dorota

#10 From: Programgal@...
Date: Wed Apr 8, 2009 12:02 pm
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Hi. My name is Joy. I am 47 years old and I have had OCD a long time, since childhood. I  had a lot of childhood trauma,. sexual abuse, much emotional abuse and other physical abuse. I grew up in an alcoholic home. I also suffer from anxiety/panic disorder and PTSD. I am looking forward to meeting others here. I need to be able to talk to others who understand what its like to have OCD. My biggest problem right now is unwanted and intrusive thoughts that are disturbing to me. I do some re-checking and ritual things but not as badly as I used to. Is this group 12 step based? love to all,Joy


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#5 From: "Linda Callahan-Zimmerman" <linda.czimm@...>
Date: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:09 am
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#4 From: "Gail Gerald" <gera9000@...>
Date: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:35 pm
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I have actually forgotten what it is like having fun for myself,
especially on the internet.  I am a stick in the mud.  I am 33 going
on 5...or even older.  I would just like to be happy for one day and
act as if there are no thoughts, no mood swings, no work to be done,
and people just to talk to.

I need to do a spring cleaning of my life.  My thoughts come in
different forms.  They are thoughts not based on my real life, like
the infidelity thoughts.  I have no experience with cheating on
someone or being cheated on.  Thank goodness I don't.  That will
always be a mystery as to why exactly I have these thoughts.

Then there are some obsessions that I have problem with, but they end
up making my other obsessions worse in the long run, such as the
obsession with Mexican actor Sergio Basanez.  I confess that I have
been obsessed with this man.  It has gotten too much.  I confess that
I have obsessed with other men for years and some last a few days,
and others last much longer.  Sergio Basanez lasted two years.  It is
time for me to start concentrating on someone I will actually meet.

It seemed a lot safer for me to obsess.  But I realize that it has
gotten too far.  I allowed it to spiral out of control to a point
where it criss-crossed wtih other obsessions like the one about
infidelity.  For example there is a scenario where I am married to
him and I am cheating on him.  There is another example where it can
criss-cross as in the case of him not getting along with another
actor.  It is upsetting that he does not get along with someone else
because it ruins the illusion that I have based on the obsessions.

There is scrupulosity where I have the thoughts that "I am not
saved", "You are not doing it right", "You are going to Hell", etc.
Those are the ones that attack what is very personal and are the most
frigtening because eternal is what it is: forever and ever.  Those
are the most difficult to break out of because they are not based on
things that are based on fables.  But they are based on truth, on
fact.
Then there are the ones that are exaggerated and are based on life
events.  I was teased when I was younger and those obsessions have
brought on guilt and bitterness.  I have become more compassionate
yet angry at the same times.  When I hear someone make a rude comment
or make fun of somebody.  Anything that triggers something about the
past is upsetting to me.

Then there are obsessions that don't have any of these effects,
though they are not of any concern like racism.  It doesn't take over
or upset me.  Then there are those that are not upsetting or cause
any concern but they did in the past.  The one about the end of the
world are one of those things.

I am now in therapy and taking medication.  I have taken medications
for depression, bipolar, and anxiety over the years.  I have taken
Wellbutrin, Lithium, Paxil, Lamictal, Risperdal, Zoloft, Celexa,
Effexor, BuSpar, Tegretol, etc.  I wonder if the rest of you can
relate.

I have even thought or wondered if I could be schizophrenic or have
aspberger.  But I have been diagnosed as having GAD, Bipolar,
Depression, and OCD over the years.  I have even been hospitalized
twice over the years.  Because of my illness, I have been teased,
laughed at, considered "weird" or "crazy" by others, and have had to
change schools once because my counselor thought I wasn't getting any
better.  I recognized all of this when I went to college at 17 when I
first began to not remember other people's names.  It has affected
life in college, life in high school, my grades.  I have difficulty
focusing at times.

Talking about them helps.  I was wondering if diet play a role in the
severity of mood swings and obsessive thoughts.  I was also wondering
if stress play a role.  How do I begin to change my ways?
Sincerely,
Gail Gerald

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Date: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:59 pm
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Hello.  This is rather like jumping into an ongoing jump-roping game, with 2 ropes in opposite directions. 
    I'm looking forward to feedback, support, ideas, and some gentle encouragement to do just 1 thing a day, if that's all the capacity I have.
    To introduce myself:  I'm a disabled/ retired psychologist and loved my career until Gastroparesis, Fibromyalgia, and several other chronic diseases took me down 7 years ago.  Like most Fibro people, I thought my time and energy unlimited, and multi-tasking was taking it easy.  I'm also a life-time subscriber to psychotherapy, which keeps me relatively sane.  I'm working there on my need to have things around me for emotional safety - a barrier from pain.  Lots of things.  I'm also a magpie who can't resist a sparkly anything.  I have multiple hobbies, with all the tools and supplies, which I haven't been able to do these 7 years.  I'm also a collector - name a book in psychology and I have it.  Especially mythology, history, humanity, religion, spirituality, reference, writing, art, poetry, etc.  3 of the 6 rooms of our home have bookshelves, full.  And the halls.  It takes a professional to outdo me on cooking and baking equipment and supplies.
    In the past 15 years I have raised my teenager granddaughter, also a collector and messiness expert, had several other young people live with us, changed my home office first to Jessica's room, then a guest room, now a storage/guest room, had the ceiling collapse (Chicken Little was right!), and been bed-ridden for almost 3 years, and am now mostly confined to my recliner and motorized scooter.
   My husband is an aesthetic..  Early in our marriage he asked when I was going to clean my desk.  I replied, astonished, "I just did."  I would ask him when he's going to USE his desk, but I know he does.  (I made sure before accepting his proposal that he could live w/ my clutter, and he does well.) 
   How many of you are also OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)?  These 2 often go hand-in-hand.  They do for me.
    I'd like to have a neat, orderly (read "pretty") home, but being in one drives me to distraction.  I'd love to have a butler who could bring me whatever I need when I need it, but I set up for my jobs and projects, which makes for a lot of "stuff" within arm's reach, so I don't have to disturb anyone nor forsake a project.
How many of you have read George Carlin's book on Stuff?  I found it a wonderfully entertaining and educational take on, well, Stuff.
I do 'too much' of most anything, including writing/talking, as you can tell if you've gotten this far.  So I end now and hope to hear from at least one other member.  Thanks for the chance to vent.  Linda CZ
 

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Date: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:08 pm
Subject: For Sure if You or Someone You Know Has OCD
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Everybody experiences worries and doubts during their life and many
of us have superstitions and funny little habits.
But for some people ... maybe even for you or a loved one... these
feelings can become so strong that they literally take over your
life.
OCD-sufferers can become trapped in a pattern of repetitive thoughts
and behaviors that are senseless and distressing but extremely
difficult to overcome.
Here's how OCD works: a person has the same disturbing thoughts,
ideas, or impulses over and over again. These are called obsessions.
To relieve the anxiety and worry that result from the obsessions, the
person begins doing certain things over and over again. These are
called compulsions.
For example, a person with germ fears (obsession) may wash his hands
(compulsion) again and again and again and again.
In the past, OCD-sufferers didn't have easy access to information on
their disorder. And many were too ashamed and embarrassed to seek
medical help.
Today, the Obsessive-Compulsive Foundation says that the average
obsessive-compulsive spends more than nine years searching for
help... and is diagnosed by three to four doctors BEFORE finally
getting the right diagnosis!
http://ocd.2itb.com/t.htm

#1 From: "prxenfsuvbtn" <prxenfsuvbtn@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:43 pm
Subject: For Sure if You or Someone You Know Has OCD
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Everybody experiences worries and doubts during their life and many
of us have superstitions and funny little habits.
But for some people ... maybe even for you or a loved one... these
feelings can become so strong that they literally take over your
life.
OCD-sufferers can become trapped in a pattern of repetitive thoughts
and behaviors that are senseless and distressing but extremely
difficult to overcome.
Here's how OCD works: a person has the same disturbing thoughts,
ideas, or impulses over and over again. These are called obsessions.
To relieve the anxiety and worry that result from the obsessions, the
person begins doing certain things over and over again. These are
called compulsions.
For example, a person with germ fears (obsession) may wash his hands
(compulsion) again and again and again and again.
In the past, OCD-sufferers didn't have easy access to information on
their disorder. And many were too ashamed and embarrassed to seek
medical help.
Today, the Obsessive-Compulsive Foundation says that the average
obsessive-compulsive spends more than nine years searching for
help... and is diagnosed by three to four doctors BEFORE finally
getting the right diagnosis!
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