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#55 From: "mystwyngz" <mystwyngz@...>
Date: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:05 pm
Subject: Bad News
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Hi,everyone.It's been quite some time since my last posting.
My stepdad is drinking again.My mom e-mailed me and said that he hasn't
gone to work at all this past week.It really hurts me to know that he's
acting so stupid but I realize that alcoholism is a disease and I
really need to detach from him but I just can't bring myself to do
that yet.I am bipolar and can't drive so that's why I can't go to
regular Alanon meetings.I'm staying with family in Egan,Louisiana and
they are very supportive.

#54 From: "Christine" <ccoughlin@...>
Date: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:40 pm
Subject: New to your group
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Thanks for letting me in and giving me an outlet for which to
share my experiences and learn form yours.  I have an alcoholic husband
to whom I've been married to for 17 years. I have only recently come to
terms and been able to actually admit this to a few people including
family who have now realized what I have been living and dealing with
all this time.  We have 3 kids and I am sure that is the only thing
that keeps us together.  It has taken over my life and I am at a point
now that I do not think I can "accept" as I have read Al-Anon
promotes.  How do you know when it is time to just let go and move on?
I know this would be devastating for the kids if I left him.

#53 From: ying shanhua <dabidzi@...>
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2007 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Hello: Choice and Change
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Hello all,

I am no longer living with an alcoholic. I broke up with my boyfriend almost a month ago. I broke up because i had had enough of his being angry, depressed, and negative. At the end of every day he felt bad for his behavior and apologized, but day after day, there were many hours upon hours where i was not at peace.

i've been going through the transition of not being with him, wondering this and wondering that at times... and at other times just enjoying myself and appreciating (and being mindful of) the relief.

one of the things i wonder about is whether he really knew what i wanted or how i felt about him. He tended to feel more and more guilty after getting sober to the point where he felt guilty about accepting my love and support. Which is one thing that makes him depressed/angry/co-dependent. I find myself wondering, "if he could understand how much i cared, would it alleviate his guilt and distance from me?" Well, although i have the question in my head, i think i know the answer. and it's "No. Not now." I can't keep wondering about "if's". I need to evaluate my life based on what's in front of me. What's real right now. Not what's potential.

I also wrote a song based on how i'm feeling. The first 2 lines are:
"Sometimes I still want to believe in you.
Sometimes I wish I never had."

Well, both of those are certainly still there, but they're both fading. I've been re-evaluating my goals and dreams for my future... that's been a good, fun thing to think about. and that ache of hoping that he'll come through is less present in my mind. Similarly, I was feeling kind of resentful toward him for giving so much of myself to him (and him getting so much out of our relationship) and feeling like our 'gains' were very uneven. Our efforts weren't though. In fact, i'd say his efforts were higher than mine, just by counting the hours he put into his program. Plus, i can move on no matter where i am. Although i had such a difficult last year and a half... my life ahead of me is still my life, and i have a million choices.

good luck all,

Kira
Shanhua

Patrishat Taylor <patrisha-taylor@...> wrote:
Hi everyone, thanks for including me in your group. These messages are very serendipitous. I have an ex-boyfriend who is an alcoholic. We have not been together for 9 months and have spoken for the past three months. He called in the middle of the night a few days ago, drunk, wanting to have contact with me again. I told him to call me when he was sober. It's been a few days and my anxiety is better. It's hard to feel love and anxiety for him and myself at the same time. Thanks for letting me share.
 
-PT

jstracick@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks so much for this group. I to am living with an Alcoholic and to say the least its exhausting. I am engaged and not sure about marriage and recently discovered I am expecting. I am a successful career women own my own home my own car etc and have managed to have some part of my life that has been so difficult to deal with.

Between the everyday struggles that we all encounter whether it be medical with family or yourself or just being stressed its difficult to want to come home to relax and be around your Alcoholic.

Alcohol is a disease so how do we determine when to stop helping our loved ones when they cant help their disease??

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-----Original Message-----
From: Grace Kennedy

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:23:30
To:Recovery-World-Al-Anon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Recovery-World-Al-Anon] Hello


Hi
I have just joined this group and thought i would say hello to everyone. I am married to an alcoholic and have recently joined my local Al Anon. Unfortunately my husband has started drinking again and I have asked him to leave the marital home. However i am finding it difficul to cope with the guilt I feel as i realise he is in great pain. However i know I must take care of me.
I hope to share and support everyone in the group and to be a valued member
 
Grace

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#52 From: "Jamie" <jamielynn41@...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:13 am
Subject: New here
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I am also married to an alcoholic, have been for 26 years and we have 4
kids together. We just kinda ignore him around here and walk on egg
shells and he goes away adventually. My kids aren't real little either
but they did see it growing up that I do feel awful about. He won't
leave  the house being he pays all the bills and I have no family or
friends to turn too. I thought about the church but then he gets really
mad if I start spilling my gutts to other people,as a matter of fact if
he knew i was doing this he would have a fit.Well thanks for letting me
spill my guts.The only peace time I get is while he is at work during
the week.Thanks again

#51 From: Patrishat Taylor <patrisha-taylor@...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:29 pm
Subject: Re: Hello
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Hi everyone, thanks for including me in your group. These messages are very serendipitous. I have an ex-boyfriend who is an alcoholic. We have not been together for 9 months and have spoken for the past three months. He called in the middle of the night a few days ago, drunk, wanting to have contact with me again. I told him to call me when he was sober. It's been a few days and my anxiety is better. It's hard to feel love and anxiety for him and myself at the same time. Thanks for letting me share.
 
-PT

jstracick@... wrote:
Thanks so much for this group. I to am living with an Alcoholic and to say the least its exhausting. I am engaged and not sure about marriage and recently discovered I am expecting. I am a successful career women own my own home my own car etc and have managed to have some part of my life that has been so difficult to deal with.

Between the everyday struggles that we all encounter whether it be medical with family or yourself or just being stressed its difficult to want to come home to relax and be around your Alcoholic.

Alcohol is a disease so how do we determine when to stop helping our loved ones when they cant help their disease??

Anonymous
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-----Original Message-----
From: Grace Kennedy

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:23:30
To:Recovery-World-Al-Anon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Recovery-World-Al-Anon] Hello


Hi
I have just joined this group and thought i would say hello to everyone. I am married to an alcoholic and have recently joined my local Al Anon. Unfortunately my husband has started drinking again and I have asked him to leave the marital home. However i am finding it difficul to cope with the guilt I feel as i realise he is in great pain. However i know I must take care of me.
I hope to share and support everyone in the group and to be a valued member
 
Grace

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#50 From: jstracick@...
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: Hello
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Thanks so much for this group. I to am living with an Alcoholic and to say the
least its exhausting. I am engaged and not sure about marriage and recently
discovered I am expecting. I am a successful career women own my own home my own
car etc and have managed to have some part of my life that has been so difficult
to deal with.

Between the everyday struggles that we all encounter whether it be medical with
family or yourself or just being stressed its difficult to want to come home to
relax and be around your Alcoholic.

Alcohol is a disease so how do we determine when to stop helping our loved ones
when they cant help their disease??

Anonymous
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-----Original Message-----
From: Grace Kennedy <kennedyg1958@...>

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:23:30
To:Recovery-World-Al-Anon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Recovery-World-Al-Anon] Hello


Hi
I have just joined this group and thought i would say hello to everyone. I am
married to an alcoholic and have recently joined my local Al Anon. Unfortunately
my husband has started drinking again and I have asked him to leave the marital
home. However i am finding it difficul to cope with the guilt I feel as i
realise he is in great pain. However i know I must take care of me.
I hope to share and support everyone in the group and to be a valued member
 
Grace

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#49 From: Grace Kennedy <kennedyg1958@...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:23 pm
Subject: Hello
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Hi
I have just joined this group and thought i would say hello to everyone. I am married to an alcoholic and have recently joined my local Al Anon. Unfortunately my husband has started drinking again and I have asked him to leave the marital home. However i am finding it difficul to cope with the guilt I feel as i realise he is in great pain. However i know I must take care of me.
I hope to share and support everyone in the group and to be a valued member
 
Grace


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#48 From: "Michelle Bloom" <mecaylachuck@...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:52 am
Subject: Coping with alcoholism
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Hi. Like many of you here I have had a hard time coping with an
alcoholic loved one. As a result I decided that it was time for me to
take some action. I started a group online for people who want to
understand more about alcoholism and need support in coping with this
disease. It's not an al-anon group, just a group of friends getting
together sharing their stories and hope. In addition I have provided
many articles, links etc to help us better understand this disease.
All of you are welcome here.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/afamilydiseasesupportgroup/.

#47 From: "John Stockton" <recoveryworldinfo@...>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:20 am
Subject: I have banned a few people who are not here for what we are.
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I have banned a few people who are not here for what we are.  If you
know of anyone else let me know???

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#39 From: Patrishat Taylor <patrisha-taylor@...>
Date: Sun May 20, 2007 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hello. New to this group.
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Michelle,
 
I'm so sorry for what you are going through. I will pray for your family...you need to do what is best for you...it's the only way through.
 
-Trish

Michelle Bloom <mecaylachuck@...> wrote:
Hello. I am new to this group as well, and after reading your post,
I realized that I could have written those words myself. Like your
husband, mine has promised to "slow down" too, but not completely
stop drinking. I really do feel your pain. For us, the spouses of
alcoholics, slowing down will not do. We need an end to these crazy
episodes and that will only come with complete and total sobriety.
Nothing less. Like you, I am at my wits end and just do not know how
to deal with this anymore. All I can do is to try to find peace in
the many other great things I have in my life. I love my husband
dearly and continue to try to make things work. I hope some day we
can enjoy a life that is free from alcohol. I wish the same for you
and your spouse.

--- In Recovery-World-Al-Anon@yahoogroups.com, "justrubl"
<justrubl@...> wrote:
>
> Hi. My name is Kerri and I am at my wits end. My husband is an
> alcoholic and refuses to admit it. But he drinks so much that
most of
> the time he has to crawl instead of walk because he can't. I knew
when
> we met he drank, heavily, but I didn't know just how bad the
problem
> was until our wedding. We got married in Arizona at his parents
and
> when he is there he doesn't drink. We got there on Thursday and
got
> married Saturday afternoon. After the reception, about 10 minutes
> before we were goin to get in the car to drive to the hotel that
we
> were booked at before our early flight for our honeymoon, he had 2
> seizues and spent 3 days in the hospital in acute renal failure.
That
> didn't stop him, and as soon as he was home he started again. It
is
> getting worse and when he is drunk is is short tempered and mad.
I
> just don't know what to do anymore. He keeps saying he is going
to
> slow down, not stop but drink less, but he just drinks more. I
love
> him but I am at a loss for what to do.
>



#38 From: "Michelle Bloom" <mecaylachuck@...>
Date: Sun May 20, 2007 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: Hello. New to this group.
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Hello. I am new to this group as well, and after reading your post,
I realized that I could have written those words myself. Like your
husband, mine has promised to "slow down" too, but not completely
stop drinking. I really do feel your pain. For us, the spouses of
alcoholics, slowing down will not do. We need an end to these crazy
episodes and that will only come with complete and total sobriety.
Nothing less. Like you, I am at my wits end and just do not know how
to deal with this anymore. All I can do is to try to find peace in
the many other great things I have in my life. I love my husband
dearly and continue to try to make things work. I hope some day we
can enjoy a life that is free from alcohol. I wish the same for you
and your spouse.



--- In Recovery-World-Al-Anon@yahoogroups.com, "justrubl"
<justrubl@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.  My name is Kerri and I am at my wits end.  My husband is an
> alcoholic and refuses to admit it.  But he drinks so much that
most of
> the time he has to crawl instead of walk because he can't.  I knew
when
> we met he drank, heavily, but I didn't know just how bad the
problem
> was until our wedding.  We got married in Arizona at his parents
and
> when he is there he doesn't drink.  We got there on Thursday and
got
> married Saturday afternoon.  After the reception, about 10 minutes
> before we were goin to get in the car to drive to the hotel that
we
> were booked at before our early flight for our honeymoon, he had 2
> seizues and spent 3 days in the hospital in acute renal failure.
That
> didn't stop him, and as soon as he was home he started again.  It
is
> getting worse and when he is drunk is is short tempered and mad.
I
> just don't know what to do anymore.  He keeps saying he is going
to
> slow down, not stop but drink less, but he just drinks more.  I
love
> him but I am at a loss for what to do.
>

#37 From: rarlene benske <blueeyesbenske2001@...>
Date: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: Hello. New to this group.
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wish i could find dream that i could love and shure a life with out drinking all the time

rarlene benske <blueeyesbenske2001@...> wrote:
well i wish i could help some one , but i am shure in a mess my self i wish could find a new man that would love me for ever , there is alot of lost love and hurt here i would be gone but i have no 1 who cares i no good family no friends thanks to my hubby and he a hates when i go some and do some thing fun , he love to bitch about every thing

Miranda Camp <mirandaluvseric@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Kerri
Have you attended any face to face al anon meetings?  If not I would definatly recommend some I am going to post a chapter from The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous called To Wives  I hope it helps some.  I would encourage a face to face meeting for you and your family to help you deal with this issue... Welcome to the group and please keep coming I will email that chapter to you seperatly.  Please feel free to email me with any questions and I will do my best to answer them or point you in the direction of someone who can (((((Big Hugs)))))
 A grateful recovering addict/alcoholic and member of al anon,
Miranda

justrubl <justrubl@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi. My name is Kerri and I am at my wits end. My husband is an
alcoholic and refuses to admit it. But he drinks so much that most of
the time he has to crawl instead of walk because he can't. I knew when
we met he drank, heavily, but I didn't know just how bad the problem
was until our wedding. We got married in Arizona at his parents and
when he is there he doesn't drink. We got there on Thursday and got
married Saturday afternoon. After the reception, about 10 minutes
before we were goin to get in the car to drive to the hotel that we
were booked at before our early flight for our honeymoon, he had 2
seizues and spent 3 days in the hospital in acute renal failure. That
didn't stop him, and as soon as he was home he started again. It is
getting worse and when he is drunk is is short tempered and mad. I
just don't know what to do anymore. He keeps saying he is going to
slow down, not stop but drink less, but he just drinks more. I love
him but I am at a loss for what to do.



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#36 From: rarlene benske <blueeyesbenske2001@...>
Date: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: Hello. New to this group.
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well i wish i could help some one , but i am shure in a mess my self i wish could find a new man that would love me for ever , there is alot of lost love and hurt here i would be gone but i have no 1 who cares i no good family no friends thanks to my hubby and he a hates when i go some and do some thing fun , he love to bitch about every thing

Miranda Camp <mirandaluvseric@...> wrote:
Hi Kerri
Have you attended any face to face al anon meetings?  If not I would definatly recommend some I am going to post a chapter from The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous called To Wives  I hope it helps some.  I would encourage a face to face meeting for you and your family to help you deal with this issue... Welcome to the group and please keep coming I will email that chapter to you seperatly.  Please feel free to email me with any questions and I will do my best to answer them or point you in the direction of someone who can (((((Big Hugs)))))
 A grateful recovering addict/alcoholic and member of al anon,
Miranda

justrubl <justrubl@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi. My name is Kerri and I am at my wits end. My husband is an
alcoholic and refuses to admit it. But he drinks so much that most of
the time he has to crawl instead of walk because he can't. I knew when
we met he drank, heavily, but I didn't know just how bad the problem
was until our wedding. We got married in Arizona at his parents and
when he is there he doesn't drink. We got there on Thursday and got
married Saturday afternoon. After the reception, about 10 minutes
before we were goin to get in the car to drive to the hotel that we
were booked at before our early flight for our honeymoon, he had 2
seizues and spent 3 days in the hospital in acute renal failure. That
didn't stop him, and as soon as he was home he started again. It is
getting worse and when he is drunk is is short tempered and mad. I
just don't know what to do anymore. He keeps saying he is going to
slow down, not stop but drink less, but he just drinks more. I love
him but I am at a loss for what to do.



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#35 From: Miranda Camp <mirandaluvseric@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:17 am
Subject: Re: Hello. New to this group.
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Hi Kerri
Have you attended any face to face al anon meetings?  If not I would definatly recommend some I am going to post a chapter from The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous called To Wives  I hope it helps some.  I would encourage a face to face meeting for you and your family to help you deal with this issue... Welcome to the group and please keep coming I will email that chapter to you seperatly.  Please feel free to email me with any questions and I will do my best to answer them or point you in the direction of someone who can (((((Big Hugs)))))
 A grateful recovering addict/alcoholic and member of al anon,
Miranda

justrubl <justrubl@...> wrote:
Hi. My name is Kerri and I am at my wits end. My husband is an
alcoholic and refuses to admit it. But he drinks so much that most of
the time he has to crawl instead of walk because he can't. I knew when
we met he drank, heavily, but I didn't know just how bad the problem
was until our wedding. We got married in Arizona at his parents and
when he is there he doesn't drink. We got there on Thursday and got
married Saturday afternoon. After the reception, about 10 minutes
before we were goin to get in the car to drive to the hotel that we
were booked at before our early flight for our honeymoon, he had 2
seizues and spent 3 days in the hospital in acute renal failure. That
didn't stop him, and as soon as he was home he started again. It is
getting worse and when he is drunk is is short tempered and mad. I
just don't know what to do anymore. He keeps saying he is going to
slow down, not stop but drink less, but he just drinks more. I love
him but I am at a loss for what to do.



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#34 From: "justrubl" <justrubl@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:13 am
Subject: Hello. New to this group.
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Hi.  My name is Kerri and I am at my wits end.  My husband is an
alcoholic and refuses to admit it.  But he drinks so much that most of
the time he has to crawl instead of walk because he can't.  I knew when
we met he drank, heavily, but I didn't know just how bad the problem
was until our wedding.  We got married in Arizona at his parents and
when he is there he doesn't drink.  We got there on Thursday and got
married Saturday afternoon.  After the reception, about 10 minutes
before we were goin to get in the car to drive to the hotel that we
were booked at before our early flight for our honeymoon, he had 2
seizues and spent 3 days in the hospital in acute renal failure.  That
didn't stop him, and as soon as he was home he started again.  It is
getting worse and when he is drunk is is short tempered and mad.  I
just don't know what to do anymore.  He keeps saying he is going to
slow down, not stop but drink less, but he just drinks more.  I love
him but I am at a loss for what to do.

#33 From: Christopher Naylor <menails@...>
Date: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: Trying to Figure Out How to Do Alanon Online
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what  are u looking frist?

ying shanhua <dabidzi@...> wrote:
I'm not exactly sure to whom this email is going, but I am looking for a way to do online Alanon meetings, or just simply find people to talk to -- a support group of some sort. Thanks, in advance, to anyone who responds to this.

K

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#32 From: ying shanhua <dabidzi@...>
Date: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:44 pm
Subject: Trying to Figure Out How to Do Alanon Online
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I'm not exactly sure to whom this email is going, but I am looking for a way to do online Alanon meetings, or just simply find people to talk to -- a support group of some sort. Thanks, in advance, to anyone who responds to this.

K


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#31 From: Miss Floor <missfloor@...>
Date: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: Bad News
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> mystwyngz@... writes:
>
> I  don't know what to do.
>
>
> There's nothing you can do, it's not up to you.
> Just pray for  him.

What about confronting him?  What about talking to
your mom about leaving him?  What about getting proof
that he is drinking?  What about talking to a
counsellor or someone that you know that is in AA
about what to do?  I'm just brainstorming, and agree
that praying is a good plan, I just think that you
probably need to do something so that you feel better
about the whole thing.




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#30 From: fern163590@...
Date: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:25 pm
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In a message dated 2/15/2007 8:29:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mystwyngz@... writes:
I don't know what to do.
There's nothing you can do, it's not up to you.  Just pray for him.

#29 From: "mystwyngz" <mystwyngz@...>
Date: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:27 am
Subject: Bad News
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I think that my stepdad is drinking again cause my mom found a half
empty bottle of Scope in his car.I'm scared that he's going to do
something stupid.I don't know what to do.

#28 From: "yellowfinch821" <yellowfinch821@...>
Date: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:49 pm
Subject: Thought for today in CTC
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When I think of other people being my mirrors I can see the progress I
have made.  I can see how I used to be, how I am today and then
qualities that I would like to develope. The other part that hit home
is when I have a hard time coping with another persons choices, it
usally has history to it. I have made unhealthy choices or just passive
aggressive choices.

#27 From: susan b <yellowfinch821@...>
Date: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:34 pm
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Hello, I would like to be a member of the group and be able to post some comments. Thank You, Susan B


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#26 From: "dhamisati" <dhamisati@...>
Date: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:40 am
Subject: chat rooms
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does anyone know chat rooms in australia that I can go online to.
sometimes i feel i waould like answers or someone to talk to straight
away when i'm feeling down in the dumps. the one i have now is US
based and due to time difference its not easy to always find someone
on line.

thanks 4 this

#25 From: Christopher Naylor <menails@...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Confused
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suggestion have your own program. and face that your husband may or may not come with you and how important that is to you.

altered001 <bandpage@...> wrote:
Thank you, I too believe in a power higher than you or I. However I
am
not very strong in my faith. I know many of you may try to enlighten
me. I just need someone to talk to who is going through the same
thing.
How do I move on when my husband cant see past the alcohol? I would
love to move on with him. Not much success.

--- In Recovery-World-Al-Anon@yahoogroups.com, "altered001"
<bandpage@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, were do I start. Never ever have I been in a chat room to
seek
> help. I dont even know were to start. I could write a book. Husband
of
> 21 years is an alcoholic. Im scared, confused and very lonley. I
sound
> like a wimp, I know. But I have been through this before with him
17
> years ago. I dont think I want to go down that road again, but I am
> afraid to divorce him. Ok, I'll be honest. I'm afraid to be on my
own.
> I'm afraid to be alone. I do still love him, but he seems to love
his
> addictions. Just need to talk to someone.
>




please be advise that do to my print disablity with small text I need to work large print. Christopher has no intention etc of shouting etc. so you are enlightened.
Confessio. Generalis ab universa Congregatione, Ministro pręcunte, dicenda, genibus flexis.
Tempore Belli.
OMNIPOTENS Deus, Rex regum, et omnium gubernator, cujus potentię nulla creatura resistere potest, cui proprium est peccatores punire, et eorum misereri qui vere agunt pœnitentiam, serva et libera nos, suppliciter te petimus, a manu inimicorum, reprime eorum superbiam, minue malitiam, dissipa illorum machinationes et astutias, ut nos tuis armis muniti semper servemur ab omnibus periculis, ad glorificandum te, qui es unicus victorię largitor : propter merita unigeniti Filii tui Domini nostri Jesu Christi. Amen.


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#24 From: "altered001" <bandpage@...>
Date: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: Confused
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Thank you, I too believe in a power higher than you or I. However I
am
not very strong in my faith. I know many of you may try to enlighten
me. I just need someone to talk to who is going through the same
thing.
How do I move on when my husband cant see past the alcohol? I would
love to move on with him. Not much success.

--- In Recovery-World-Al-Anon@yahoogroups.com, "altered001"
<bandpage@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, were do I start. Never ever have I been in a chat room to
seek
> help. I dont even know were to start. I could write a book. Husband
of
> 21 years is an alcoholic. Im scared, confused and very lonley. I
sound
> like a wimp, I know. But I have been through this before with him
17
> years ago. I dont think I want to go down that road again, but I am
> afraid to divorce him. Ok, I'll be honest. I'm afraid to be on my
own.
> I'm afraid to be alone.  I do still love him, but he seems to love
his
> addictions. Just need to talk to someone.
>

#23 From: Christopher Naylor <menails@...>
Date: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: Confused
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breath and believe that I believe in you and power greater than you or I apart or together.   I understand more than words can say my father was same way for over 19 years.

altered001 <bandpage@...> wrote:
Hello, were do I start. Never ever have I been in a chat room to seek
help. I dont even know were to start. I could write a book. Husband of
21 years is an alcoholic. Im scared, confused and very lonley. I sound
like a wimp, I know. But I have been through this before with him 17
years ago. I dont think I want to go down that road again, but I am
afraid to divorce him. Ok, I'll be honest. I'm afraid to be on my own.
I'm afraid to be alone. I do still love him, but he seems to love his
addictions. Just need to talk to someone.




please be advise that do to my print disablity with small text I need to work large print. Christopher has no intention etc of shouting etc. so you are enlightened.
Confessio. Generalis ab universa Congregatione, Ministro pręcunte, dicenda, genibus flexis.
Tempore Belli.
OMNIPOTENS Deus, Rex regum, et omnium gubernator, cujus potentię nulla creatura resistere potest, cui proprium est peccatores punire, et eorum misereri qui vere agunt pœnitentiam, serva et libera nos, suppliciter te petimus, a manu inimicorum, reprime eorum superbiam, minue malitiam, dissipa illorum machinationes et astutias, ut nos tuis armis muniti semper servemur ab omnibus periculis, ad glorificandum te, qui es unicus victorię largitor : propter merita unigeniti Filii tui Domini nostri Jesu Christi. Amen.


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#22 From: "altered001" <bandpage@...>
Date: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:33 pm
Subject: Confused
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Hello, were do I start. Never ever have I been in a chat room to seek
help. I dont even know were to start. I could write a book. Husband of
21 years is an alcoholic. Im scared, confused and very lonley. I sound
like a wimp, I know. But I have been through this before with him 17
years ago. I dont think I want to go down that road again, but I am
afraid to divorce him. Ok, I'll be honest. I'm afraid to be on my own.
I'm afraid to be alone.  I do still love him, but he seems to love his
addictions. Just need to talk to someone.

#21 From: "lacey_jy" <lacey_jy@...>
Date: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Newcomer
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Hi Maggie,

I'm also new to this group.  I was a little concerned when I first
looked through the posts on here, and so many of them seem to be about
people's husbands/wives.  It's a very different situation when it's
your family.

My mom has been an alcoholic for 11 years, and in that time, she has
gone from being a very afluent health professional to jobless,
pennyless and living in a friends trailor which is falling apart.

I know how you feel - every time the phone rings, your heart stops and
your stomach twists into knots... but you just can't stop yourself
from picking up the phone.  I've said to my husband so many times, it
would be so much easier if my mom didn't show me any love or
attention, because then I could walk away.  She provides just enough
love to keep me hanging onto this toxic situation.

My mom has been telling me that she is going to die this year and
begging me to promise that I will spread her ashes in a certain
place... I just try not to feed into her hysteria, by distracting her
or changing the subject if possible.

I'm sure, like you, I thought if I removed myself from her (I moved to
England with my husband) that it would be easier - it is in a way, but
its surprising how much an alcoholic can hurt you, even at a distance.
  Now I'm spending a small fortune returning her frantic phone calls
(she can't call me because she can't afford to - she just calls me at
all hours, even the middle of the night, and begs me to call her back,
or lies and says its an emergency).  I don't know if you feel like
your wasting half your life on the phone when they just keep going
over and over the same issues without listening or making any progress
forward.  Its very frustrating and upsetting.



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<mystwyngz@...> wrote:
>
> My name is Maggie Dailey and this is my first post here.My stepdad is
> an alchoholic and he recently moved out.He was becoming verbally
> abusive towards me and it really hurts me to know that the man that I
> called dad for so many years is doing something so stupid.Even though
> he has moved out,he is calling and threatening to kill himself.I am so
> scared that one day the phone will ring and it will be the coroner
> telling me that he killed himself.I know that I don't have any control
> over his drinking.I live with my mother and my younger sister in
> Lafayette Louisiana and am unable to get to meetings because I cannot
> drive.
>

#20 From: "brandi_1956" <misskitty_1999@...>
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:38 pm
Subject: I have just gone through what some of you are right now. All I can say is
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I told my husband of 5 years, that by the time I got home from work
the day he told me everything he had been doing, he had to be out of
the house.  I would NOT tolerate the lies, the stealing (in a way)
and the shooting coke.  I knew when I married him that he was a
recovering addict and alcoholic.  He had been clean for 16 yrs.  Then
all of a sudden, this little old man of 53yrs decided to go back to
that crap.  That was almost 3 months ago.  He still isn't back home
but he comes over every day to see me and the dogs (our children!)
He is staying at his sponsers house and he goes to AA/NA meetings 2-3
times a week.  Right now is his busiest time at work, he is a heating
and air guy, so he has little time to do anything but work, go to
meetings, and see me for an hour or so a day.  But he is working on
his problem.  Big time.  So that shows me that he really wanted the
help as well as keeping our family together.  I live in an area where
there are no meetings for us (spouses) to go to.  I read these
postings as well as others in other groups every day.  They get me
through all of this.  It let me know that I was not alone even though
I felt like it.  If you ever need a shoulder, there are so many here
for you to lean on.  Me included!  I lean too at times.  Believe this
or not, this is the first time I think I have ever posted in this
group!  But I felt your pain.  I felt your heartbreak.  I felt your
fear.  Be strong.  You know what is the best for you. No one can tell
you what that is.  If he is asking for help, help him find it.  He
sounds like a good man with a bad habit.  You can support him as well
as standing strong for what's right.  We are all here for you, dear.

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