Warmly,

Will  

In my Classical Five-Element Classes it was taught that if one needles the source points of the CF at least 10 of the 12 pulses (except the CF pulses)  should balance out if not all 12.

Eric


On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, rossrosen <rossrosen@gmail. com> wrote:
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> Hi Peter, Lon, Will...
> Sorry for the delay. Busy with patients.
>
> In terms of the Hesitant pulse wave, we generally consider this to be a Heart yin deficient sign, not Spleen/Stomach. According to Leon, he has stated that Dr. Shen associated this with obsessive thinking (Heart Yin deficiency) and totally unrelated to the Spleen involvement with the mind except in that it supplies blood to the HT. The role of the Spleen (Yi)in this regard is to assist the Heart in its job of controlling the mind. We have never considered this to be related to an earth constitution. As far as I know, this was a Dr. Shen finding from the many years of his experience with an enormous patient base.
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> I know that Kiiko calls this same pulse the 'pecking' pulse and uses the 'ST qi line' to treat it. From my understanding of this, her description is more akin to HT and circulatory functions, ie arterial flow and veinous return.
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> Warmly,
> Ross
>
> --- In PulseDiagnosis@ yahoogroups. com, William Morris <wmorris33@.. .> wrote:
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> > Hi Peter and Lon -
> > The term hesitant arose in the Essential of Acupuncture and is, I believe
> > still used in Chinese Acupuncture and Moxibustion. The California
> > Acupuncture Board continues to use the term hesitant as a translation of
> > the rough pulse (*sè mài, *澀脈)
> > http://www.acupunct ure.ca.gov/ students/ exam_preparation .pdf. In this
> > instance, the notion of hesitant sprang from what I consider to be an
> > excessive focus upon time based distortions in the wave: "faltering and
> > balking".
> >
> > I describe Leon's hesitant pulse as a wave with such a rapid arrival and
> > departure that it feels like a line straight up and down. If we apply the
> > Pulse Classic and divide the arrival into the yang portion and the departure
> > into the yin portion of the wave, then Hammer's hesitant suggests both both
> > yin and yang are affected. It is one of Shen's push pulses related to
> > obsessive overworking and we can see it in government and stock market. It
> > reminds me of the trader who has monitors in the kitchen and the bathroom so
> > as not to miss a trade.
> >
> > Ross, what are your thoughts on this matter? It has been 9 years now since
> > my years of co-teaching masters courses with Leon. I wonder if that the
> > dialog has developed.
> >
> > Warmly,
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM, sppdestiny <revolution@. ..>wrote:
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> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > Now that you mention, I vaguely remember having discussed this before. I
> > > meant deep for the water pulse. Leon uses the term "hesitant" to describe a
> > > pulse with predominantly vertical movement. It's about the only term he uses
> > > which doesn't really describe directly what the pulse feels like (as far as
> > > I'm concerned). I don't know what Chinese character it corresponded to..
> > > perhaps only Dr. Shen knew. I'm never able to get constitution from pulse
> > > only physiology, but the weakest/strongest (most functional/least
> > > functional) does seem to apply.
> > >
> > > Warm regards, Lon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > William R. Morris, PhD, DAOM, LAc
> >
> > http://www.aoma. edu/
> >
>
>


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William R. Morris, PhD, DAOM, LAc

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