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Re: Was halusinogenic drugs: Now Hesitant Pulse

I can definitely understand that. To some degree it is contingent upon
perspective. For example, one can see the representative formula for treating
Hesitant and HT yin deficient pulse as Sheng Mai San (which also treats HT shock
which is almost always found with a Hesitant wave). Sheng Mai San can be
analyzed to be a ST yin supplementing formula (Ren Shen nourishes fluids, Mai
Men Dong nourishes ST yin; Wu Wei Zi astringes fluids and sometimes referred to
as the 5 flavor herb to affect all zang) and indeed HT shock can be seen as
affecting the Emperor which impacts the rest or the empire, or, significantly
affecting one's center (stability/groundedness) rooted in the SP/ST and source
of post-natal qi. It all comes down to experience and clinical success in that
regard.

Ross


--- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com, "sppdestiny" <revolution@...> wrote:
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> Ross,
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> I appreciate the context you're providing here. Still, I have to stand by
my observations over quite some time that the earth element is strongly
implicated in the hesitant pulse. Of course the heart radical is the foundation
foe the yi and si so there would seem to be an interesting relationship.-Lon
>





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Hi Peter and Lon - The term hesitant arose in the Essential of Acupuncture and is, I believe still used in Chinese Acupuncture and Moxibustion. The California ...
William Morris
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Jul 2, 2009
12:51 pm

Very interesting regarding the hesitant pulse. Again, I've found it to be highly correlated with earth constitution or significant imbalance. I think of it as...
sppdestiny
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Jul 2, 2009
5:12 pm

Hi Peter, Lon, Will... Sorry for the delay. Busy with patients. In terms of the Hesitant pulse wave, we generally consider this to be a Heart yin deficient...
rossrosen
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Jul 2, 2009
10:38 pm

Ross, I appreciate the context you're providing here. Still, I have to stand by my observations over quite some time that the earth element is strongly...
sppdestiny
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Jul 3, 2009
3:05 am

I believe that the "pecking" pulse in Kiiko style is found on the stomach position (right middle- guan). The pecking pulse lacks horizontal movement and root, ...
john kokko
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Jul 3, 2009
5:25 am

Lon - As I relayed before, I concur with your thought that there is an involvement of the *yi. *And, we are speaking about Leon Hammer's hesitant pulse. There...
William Morris
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Jul 3, 2009
6:13 am

I can definitely understand that. To some degree it is contingent upon perspective. For example, one can see the representative formula for treating Hesitant...
rossrosen
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Jul 3, 2009
1:07 pm

OK - let's mix our metaphors. The hesitant pulse has a shortened time for automaticity and refractory period. These notes are extrapolated from studies with...
William Morris
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Jul 3, 2009
2:18 pm

Ross, I can see the heart yin component that you are pointing to and it makes perfect sense. With herbs I've often used Gan Lu Yin when hesitant is seen in...
sppdestiny
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Jul 4, 2009
11:15 am

Lon Yes. Hesitant wave can accompany any other pulse qualities, not necessarily Tight. Tight on Uniform Impressions would suggest systemic yin defic, while the...
Ross Rosen
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Jul 5, 2009
1:33 am

Hi Ross, Lon and Peter, I am on vacation in Southern OR and have time for posting. ;-) The wave analysis method for Hammer's 'hesitant' pulse also confirms ...
William Morris
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Jul 3, 2009
3:55 am

As for constitution, I really like palpating the source point of the channel that I correlate with the constitution. The most weak, the most strong, the...
Eric Waltemate
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Jul 4, 2009
5:43 am

 That might be closer. As I see it, and learned it, its not an uncommon term,.. the hesitance is when feeling the rythym, the breakover wave is late and...
mystir
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Jul 3, 2009
3:42 am

Hi Mystir -I think it is important to highlight that the hesitant pulse under discussion is specific to Leon Hammer's nomenclature. It does not correlate with...
William Morris
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Jul 3, 2009
4:19 am

Hi Will. Looking back thru the discussion, I can see you all are speaking, identifying the specific use of the term, from Mr Hammers view. I'll look and maybe...
mystir
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