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Re: [PulseDiagnosis] Re: Using the eyes to Cultivate Jing

Hi Lon -

I am happy to post on your site. I agree that we see with our own eyes
and shen. That implied in my question, "Look in the eyes - what arises
in you? How is the focus and light refraction?" I think it is very
important, the idea the you convey about the status of the shen under
pressure and the hazy moon of enlightenment - if it is that and not
phlegm misting the mind. I see the light of the sun, moon and stars as
a refractory from the wu ji into a three fold notion of existence. So,
in "essence" they are part of the unfolding of the creative itself.

Warmly,

Will




On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:55 AM, sppdestiny<revolution@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi Will,
>
> Will you consider posting this with the formulas on my site? Great post! I
> just want to comment on the notion that "shen is the brightness in the
> eyes". Of course that is true but we will see that shen with our own
> eyes/shen. On a lower level it's easy to see light in another's eyes and
> notice that they are happy and creative. The real question is how much light
> is coming through when there internal experience is clouded and they are
> under pressure indicating that they are rooted in light? Beyond that the
> real light is one that consumes us. When mind is really out of the way the
> "light coming through the eyes" is of another order entirely. This is a
> light that "sees through us" and leads us to see through ourselves. This is
> a light not of "the moon, the stars, and the sun" but the unified source
> beyond those manifestations. It is the light of "the creative" itself.
>
>



--
William R. Morris, PhD, DAOM, LAc

http://www.aoma.edu/



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Jon, I like what you've written it's all interesting to consider. What I'm pointing to is a "light" that's ultimately free of physiology. I'd equate this light...
sppdestiny
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Jun 9, 2009
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Hi Lon - I am happy to post on your site. I agree that we see with our own eyes and shen. That implied in my question, "Look in the eyes - what arises in you?...
William Morris
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Jun 9, 2009
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Could you say something about the "hazy moon of enlightenment"? I'm not familiar with the notion. -Lon...
sppdestiny
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Jun 9, 2009
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I first encountered the notion of the hazy moon of enlightenment from Trungpa Rinpoche. Meditation practice is the heart of hazy moon. Maezumi Roshi discusses...
William Morris
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Hey Will Thanks for this post. This is very helpful. But I have a question on one of the formulas.You have the formula for Yang Xin Tang as follows Yang aspect...
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Hi Jay - I put this together about 10 years ago. The thing about the first formula is the gram of rou qui. That brings home the yang. Hope you are doing well. ...
William Morris
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pls put point in numerical form   thank u ... From: William Morris <wmorris33@...> Subject: Re: [PulseDiagnosis] Using the eyes...herb formula To:...
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... From: dan johnson <flyfunktionable@...> Subject: [PulseDiagnosis] Using the eyes to Cultivate Jing To: PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday,...
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Vision is a metaphor for paying attention to reality. The original name for Bl-1 is mingmen &#21629;&#38272;, Gate of Destiny. Ming &#21629; "destiny", ming...
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PS-I see none of the Chinese characters I entered showed up. Yahoo is slow in the draw.....sorry for all the weird code. I posted this on my website with the...
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Lonny and Will, Thanks for the insightful and poetic messages. With the Three Treasures... do the 1st 4 channels Lung, LI, ST, SP (earth zone) correspond to...
john kokko
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... In my own understanding, what you have pointed out here would be the "real" Shen. The bright light of healthy Shen that we ordinarily notice is typical...
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... Yes Steve, I'm pointing to a light that is absolute and impersonal. -lon...
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This is great dialogue, thank you everyone, commenting on the REAL Shen/ spirit , the Shen that manifests from the unconditioned mind,  shining brightly...
dan johnson
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There is the interesting experience of looking out of our eyes verses allowing it to go the other way. Allowing Life in. Steve Schachter On Jun 9, 2009, at...
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Daniel - The REAL Shen spirit has material features if we are using the discussion in context of the people who originate the term and the source materials for...
William Morris
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The REAL Shen spirit has material features Lonny: Can we say "physical correlates"? Because the Daoist cannon is pretty clear on the non-locality of the...
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Hi Lon, I prefer features, since it is suggestive of a unity state. Physical correlates is fine, it does, however suggest a dualism between spirit and body...
William Morris
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What do we see when our eyes are closed? Stan Brakhage, an experimental film pioneer composed moving art based on this hypnogogic vision that he saw with one...
john kokko
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HI John, Dan, Lon and Steve, This is great. Dan, I would love to hear more about the practices that you are using to build jing through the eyes. You present a...
William Morris
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Hi all,.. great conversation.. I took a class in survival training based on some Native American practices of tracking. The instructor said that animals tend...
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Steve,   I assert...   This is a great example.   You asked john, "Did you mean to write Jing and not Shen?"  Our discussion with eyes has been about...
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Hi Dan - Nice...taking the play along the way... Consciousness occurs partly in terms of unconscious neural patterning. Only certain features of awareness are...
William Morris
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Just to push this thing along a little, here is some more of the French philosopher Foucault: The Archaeology of Knowledge & The Discourse on Language We must...
William Morris
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Will, A bone to pick with Foucault: his form of philosophy atomizes all phenomena into its smallest, most abstract forms, which, ironically, through quantum...
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buck buck luke! nice d ________________________________ From: Luke Terry <evolution.intent@...> To: PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12,...
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Hey Luke, Thanks! I thought that would get someone going. I am no expert on Foucault. I do believe that his analysis of power and institutions - and the way...
William Morris
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Are they separate "entities-things-objects" so to speak or are they more like the 3 states of water,liquid-ice-steam? Lonny: The hierarchy in CM is that the...
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... I know these possiblities: R = Liv, L = Sp; R =Liv, L = Gb; R= Yin, L= Yang; R=Moon, L= Sun; ergo, R=Mother, L= Father. Tibetan Buddism uses mirror...
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John, did you mean to write Jing and not Shen? Our discussion with eyes has been about Shen. And, not to over step boundaries and protocals, but why are...
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