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Re: [PulseDiagnosis] Re: Using the eyes to Cultivate Jing

Lonny and Will,

Thanks for the insightful and poetic messages.

With the Three Treasures...
do the 1st 4 channels Lung, LI, ST, SP (earth zone) correspond to post-natal Jing-Qi
the 2nd 4 channels HT, SI, UB, KD (heaven zone) correspond to pre-natal Jing-Shen
and the 3rd 4 channels PC, SJ, GB, LV (human zone) correspond to Ministerial Fire administering the three?

In 5E, the HT is the first channel in the flow, so Heaven would be first.
It would make sense that pre-natal Jing-Shen would arrive before post-natal Jing-Qi.

It seems accepted that the Ren 4-6/ Du 4 (Dan Tian/Ming-men) area corresponds to Jing
what about Qi?    Ren 12 or Ren 17
what about Shen?  Ren 17 or Yin Tang

I've meditated with Ling Zhi and it definitely opens up the Du channel to allow for Shen to have free passage
up and down the spine; in other words, it makes you sit straight and see your nature;
but only when it is cooked properly (in a double ginseng cooker).
I think the loss of essential volatile oils is the loss of the Shen from the mushroom.

   The HT and LV channels are the internal eye vessels guiding Shen and Hun  (Spirit and Soul)
   The HT governs blood as the emperor, the LV stores the mandate of heaven-blood (as a minister).
  
If the blood is included into the Three Treasures equation, where would it fit?

Thanks.

K





On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:58 AM, sppdestiny <revolution@...> wrote:


PS-I see none of the Chinese characters I entered showed up. Yahoo is slow in the draw.....sorry for all the weird code. I posted this on my website with the characters.....Regards, Lonny

http://nourishingdestiny.com/discussions/961




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Lonny and Will, Thanks for the insightful and poetic messages. With the Three Treasures... do the 1st 4 channels Lung, LI, ST, SP (earth zone) correspond to...
john kokko
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Jun 9, 2009
2:56 pm

... In my own understanding, what you have pointed out here would be the "real" Shen. The bright light of healthy Shen that we ordinarily notice is typical...
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Jun 9, 2009
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... Yes Steve, I'm pointing to a light that is absolute and impersonal. -lon...
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This is great dialogue, thank you everyone, commenting on the REAL Shen/ spirit , the Shen that manifests from the unconditioned mind,  shining brightly...
dan johnson
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Jun 9, 2009
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There is the interesting experience of looking out of our eyes verses allowing it to go the other way. Allowing Life in. Steve Schachter On Jun 9, 2009, at...
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Jun 9, 2009
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Daniel - The REAL Shen spirit has material features if we are using the discussion in context of the people who originate the term and the source materials for...
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The REAL Shen spirit has material features Lonny: Can we say "physical correlates"? Because the Daoist cannon is pretty clear on the non-locality of the...
sppdestiny
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Jun 11, 2009
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Hi Lon, I prefer features, since it is suggestive of a unity state. Physical correlates is fine, it does, however suggest a dualism between spirit and body...
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What do we see when our eyes are closed? Stan Brakhage, an experimental film pioneer composed moving art based on this hypnogogic vision that he saw with one...
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HI John, Dan, Lon and Steve, This is great. Dan, I would love to hear more about the practices that you are using to build jing through the eyes. You present a...
William Morris
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Hi all,.. great conversation.. I took a class in survival training based on some Native American practices of tracking. The instructor said that animals tend...
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Steve,   I assert...   This is a great example.   You asked john, "Did you mean to write Jing and not Shen?"  Our discussion with eyes has been about...
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Hi Dan - Nice...taking the play along the way... Consciousness occurs partly in terms of unconscious neural patterning. Only certain features of awareness are...
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Just to push this thing along a little, here is some more of the French philosopher Foucault: The Archaeology of Knowledge & The Discourse on Language We must...
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Will, A bone to pick with Foucault: his form of philosophy atomizes all phenomena into its smallest, most abstract forms, which, ironically, through quantum...
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buck buck luke! nice d ________________________________ From: Luke Terry <evolution.intent@...> To: PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12,...
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Hey Luke, Thanks! I thought that would get someone going. I am no expert on Foucault. I do believe that his analysis of power and institutions - and the way...
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Are they separate "entities-things-objects" so to speak or are they more like the 3 states of water,liquid-ice-steam? Lonny: The hierarchy in CM is that the...
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... I know these possiblities: R = Liv, L = Sp; R =Liv, L = Gb; R= Yin, L= Yang; R=Moon, L= Sun; ergo, R=Mother, L= Father. Tibetan Buddism uses mirror...
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John, did you mean to write Jing and not Shen? Our discussion with eyes has been about Shen. And, not to over step boundaries and protocals, but why are...
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Okay, good one, you got me! I'm not sure that my vision was too "off" though as this paragraph of yours shows: ... You start out with eyes and jing and slip...
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... In the "Shen Gong" I learned, the soft focus is the key. Same for qi gong and tai ji for that matter. I assume based on my experience that "primitive"...
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I think the notion, is of the language that we use in describing the actual methods in our approach in aggregating our data. There is no way to actually strip...
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