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Hi David,
Chapter 53 & 54 both describe pathogen flow, but they differ greatly in the way in which this plays out. regarding Chapter 54, Hsu Ta Ch'un comments, "This paragraph certainly does not agree with the Nei Jing; also, it contradicts the preceding paragraph."
53 suggests that yin organs are subject to both control and generation cycles, where 54 maintains that yin and yang organs are relegated to control and generation cycles exclusively. For me, viewing these paragraphs together brings up more questions than answers.
Clearly though, we agree that Chapter 76 describes wei qi flow through the six channels---but it also describes night time wei qi flowing through the yin organs along the control cycle.
The prescribed movement of evil pathogens through the yin organs as outlined in the Nan
Jing matches the way in which wei qi flows through the yin organs in the Nei Jing. It's my hypotheses that much in the same way, wei qi flows through the yang organs along the generating cycle.
As I'm sure you have experienced, sometimes in extrapolating theories from classical literature for clinical use, decisions have to be made about how to mix and match, not only from differing texts, but even from paragraph to paragraph.
In addition to control cycle assessment of the yin organs, (Per Will's Neoclassical teaching), I have been assessing yang organs via the generation cycle experimentally and have found it similarly efficacious.
In Health,
Joe
flyingstarsfengshui <flyingstarsfengshui@...> wrote:
I believe Nan Ching 53 and 54 need to be viewed together, as they talk
about both five phase cycles and the severity of when a pathogen is
transmitted in each cycle.
But these are not so much about Wei Qi flow but pathogen flow from
internal organs and not channels. More organ than channel (imho)
Channel flow varies, primary channels of meridian clock and as
mentioned before Tendo Channel flow beginning with Bladder and then
Six stages for legs then arms. E
regards,
david
www.healingqi.com
--- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups. , "Joe" <qimoves@...com > wrote:
>
> Hi Marty,
>
> While the Ling Shu suggests the wei qi cascades through the yang
> organs: tai yang, shao yang, yang ming, Difficulty Fifty-Four from
> the Nan Jing describes, "visceral, (yin) disease are hard to treat
> because they transmit to where or what they overcome, (control
> cycle). Bowel, (yang) diseases are easy to treat because they
> transmit to their child, (generation cycle)."
>
> The implication being that qi and marauding "evils" travel through
> yin and yang organs via the generation and control cycles
> respectively.
>
> While it is unclear if this description relates to wei qi
> specifically--- qi is described as traveling through the yang organs
> via the generation cycle: Ub, Gb, Si, St, Li.
>
> In Health,
> Joe
>
>
> --- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups. , "martyeisen" <martyeisen@com >
> wrote:
> >
> > What is the exact flow through the yang channels.
> >
> > Is it UB, SI, TH, GB, CO, ST?
> >
> > It flows 25 times in a 12 hour day period. How long does it spend
> in a
> > Yang channel and the Yin channels?
> >
>
>
>
> --- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups. , "martyeisen" <martyeisen@com >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the information. However, the exact nature of the flow
> > through the Yang channels is still not clear.
> >
> > How does it flow through
> > UB, SI, TH, GB, CO, ST?
> >
> > What is the order of flow and how long does it flow in each of the
> > above channels?
> >
> > How long does it stay in each Yin channel?
> >
>
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