Hi Will:

I am well and hope you and your family are well.

The whole area of shen in my view has been very ambigous in common
literature. I would propose much of the five shen and their
imbalances are really emotional issues, where we attach our belief
or consciousness to an emotional or feeling or sensation, this
distinction is important in clincal practice. Classically it is
bleeding of the Luo points and channels that releases this
pathology, it releases the Qi/Blood/Jing we use to maintain the
emotion. But it does not change the underlying energetics of how the
intensity manifested, the Shen level.

I would propose shen issues are more constitutional and require
treating the eight extraordinary channels eventually, to change
chronic or yuan level conditions.

I distinguish between emotional issues and Shen issues, even though
common literture and practice tends to lump them together. Its
possible the compass method and the five phase points can relieve
stresses/emotions, not convinced it is an effective treatment of
Shen or the optimal method. These antique points clearly move Qi and
that will give relief, but change one's Shen to restore back to its
Yuan condition?

To me if it is a Shen issue it will take time to change and
maintain it and most likely needs other modalities: qi gong,
meditation, therapy, etc. But we can get quick releases from
emotional intensities in a variety of methods. So I'm distinguishing
between superficial/Wei/emotions and Deeper/Yuan/Shen conditions.

It seems the Outer Shu points were first mentioned as ways to treat
Shen about the Ming Dynasty, so they are not part of classical
methods for treating shen.

Study of Nei Gong clearly presents practices that focus on releasing
and transforming emotions and deeper practices for the shen, they
make clear distinctions between the two. Just to summarize, I
beleive there is a difference between treating emotions and working
with Shen, even though emotions influence our state of Shen or state
of awareness. If its just some short term emotions to me its juest
superfical layers pathology, a Shen disturbance is a more chronic
condition, if it is a Shen condition, after we release the emotion
we are now ready to address the Shen, it layers.

Just my thoughts on this, I have many more but no space.

Regards,

David










--- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com, "Will Morris"
<WMorris116@...> wrote:
>
> Hi David -
>
> I hope you are well. Thanks for this question. I am taking the
> assumption that: the liver houses the hun, lung houses the po, the
> spleen houses the yi, kidney houses the zhi, and the heart houses
the
> shen. We can see the doors to the shen along the outer bladder shu
> points. Taking these assertions and then applying the doctrine of
> correspondences, those points that correct an imbalance in an
organ,
> allow that organ to more effectively provide domicile to that
aspect
> of shen and the self.
>
> I see shen as a part of self - and this notion of self is both
> consciousness and physical presence in the form of stable movement.
>
> So - the compass model allows one to assess from a perspective that
> transcends self: the directions. Returning to this methodology, it
is
> via the doctrine of correspondences that the shen are assessed
here.
> This is especially so given the use of the compass in the heart
> position where the shen are housed. Then one goes to the
corresponding
> organ. The imbalance within that organ which contributes to a
problem
> with the shen settling there is addressed. It is profound to watch
the
> shen visually change in the eyes.
>
> Please let me know your further thoughts.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Will
>
>
> --- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com, "flyingstarsfengshui"
> <flyingstarsfengshui@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Will:
> >
> > From a classical view of Shen it is the luo points and blood
that was
> > presented for treating emotions and shen, its interesting the
five
> > elelement points do not contain Luo Points, the most important
from
> > the classics.
> >
> > And the idea of treating shen, one would think it is more a
> > consitutional condition, would you distinguish it from emotions?
For
> > Shen issues would it be safe to assume they are more
constituional
> > than the intenties of emotions.
> >
> > The points I am making is does this model offer a way to treat
shen or
> > just emotions? In either case do you think it is the most
efective
> > group of points for treating Shen?
> >
> > regards,
> > david
> >
> >
> > -- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com, "Will Morris"
<WMorris116@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > As promised,her is a method of diagnosing the Shen that is
proving to
> > > be very promising.
> > >
> > > http://www.pulsediagnosis.com/PulseDiagnosisoftheShen.htm
> > >
> > > Warmly,
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> >
>