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Re: [PulseDiagnosis] Re: new poll/pulse classes

My experience in Australia since 1991 (regarding pulse diagnostics) has been exactly the same as Ross'. Unfortunately for the new students in Australia, there is little choice in CM pulse education. The few accredited university colleges here are TCM and reflect a type of modern Chinese arrogance about their monopoly. Thank God for www and web groups like this one!

rossrosen <rossrosen@...> wrote:
As with most of you, I had virtually no training in pulse diagnosis
while in school. At the same time, however, looking back I am not so
sure how valuable it would have been given that most schools teach
strict TCM and have faculty with barely any pulse training themselves.
Everything in the school clinic was slippery or wiry just as others
have alluded to in prior posts. To have attempted to learn pulse
diagnosis with no way of receiving adequate feedback and guidance from
faculty (as they were not trained in pulse) probably would have been
more frustrating than waiting to learn it after graduation. Studying
with Dr. Leon Hammer has been, and is, an eye-opening experience into
the subtleties of what can be revealed from the pulse. As a certified
teacher in this system, I have been on both sides of the dilemma of
teaching and learning pulse diagnosis. I feel that to properly teach
the pulse in a school setting, the system of education needs to some
degree revolve around the theoretical framework that the pulse
provides. Dr. Hammer's school, Dragon Rises, is an excellent model
for this. But to do it well, one needs to break out of the confining
mould of TCM and western-defined Chinese medicine.

Another issue is attracting enough practitioners with a strong desire
to learn the pulse. School models revolve around western disease
differentiation and don't value the pulse enough as a method of
diagnosis, relegating it to simply validate a pattern of imbalance.
Why spend years studying pulse for that? Many don't want to dedicate
years to this endeavor, favoring a quickly applied form of diagnosis.
Much of this stems from misinformation or lack thereof.

Hopefully, as enough practitioners with skill in pulse diagnosis
emerge (and teach), this interest will again rise in the student body.



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Hi I teach at Bastyr University in Seattle. I teach a 2 credit (22 hrs) advanced tongue and pulse diagnosis class as an elective. 3/8 of the class is TCM ...
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Jul 28, 2007
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The few hours devoted to didactic study of pulse when I was in school were laughable. So I heeded Robert Johns' sage advice to study with Dr. Leon Hammer....
Brandt Stickley
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Jul 30, 2007
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As with most of you, I had virtually no training in pulse diagnosis while in school. At the same time, however, looking back I am not so sure how valuable it...
rossrosen
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Aug 3, 2007
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My experience in Australia since 1991 (regarding pulse diagnostics) has been exactly the same as Ross'. Unfortunately for the new students in Australia, there...
mark phillips
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Aug 3, 2007
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Thanks all our friend for the responses - they are continuing to trickle in. We have 21 responses to on the survey page. We need more power in order to ...
William Morris
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Aug 3, 2007
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Dear Group, I do not believe there was enough pusle training as part of the core curriculum at the college I attended. The only core training happened during...
Joseph adams
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Aug 3, 2007
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Dear Group, I agree with Joe. I attended the same school he did and also do not believe there was enough pusle training as part of the core curriculum. I...
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Aug 3, 2007
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Will, I applaud your initiative and insight. You are leading from the front. God willing we'll actually meet some day in the not-too-distant future. Thank...
Brandt Stickley
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Aug 4, 2007
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Hi, I have taught the Shen-Hammer system of Pulse diagnosis for the last nine years as an advanced seminar. I must say that the classes that benefit the...
Robbee Fian
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This is the reason I voted that the current education is "enough". The difficulty is not the learning it is the examples to learn from. Even when I took...
Darby Valley, L.Ac.
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