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Re: [PulseDiagnosis] new poll/pulse classes

Hi, 
I have taught the Shen-Hammer system of Pulse diagnosis for the last nine years as an advanced seminar.  I must say that the classes that benefit the students the most are the ones taught to practitioners with five or more years of experience.   Teaching students or recent graduates has been extremely difficult as they do not have the experience to understand what they do not know.   They also do not have the capacity to quickly apply the information.  Of course the other issue is that once a student is back in the school clinic, if they do not have a teacher to confirm their findings they quickly become lost.

As far as my own education, I was lucky enough to attend acupuncture school in the early 80's.  At that juncture, the in school class time was not enough, but our Chinese teachers were more than willing to offer extra lectures during the weekends and evenings.  Where ever there was an educational gap, we could fill it in by going outside of the basic school curriculum.  (of course the cost of tuition was much less then than it is now!)  

Robbee Fian L.Ac.

On Jul 28, 2007, at 11:04 AM, shadjody@... wrote:

Hi
I teach at Bastyr University in Seattle.  I teach a 2 credit (22 hrs) advanced tongue and pulse diagnosis class as an elective.  3/8 of the class is TCM pulses, 1/4 is Japanese Sho system (Japanese Meriden Therapy), 1/8 is 8 Extra Vessel (based on Will's class/ article form Acupuncture today) and 1/8 is a 3 hr . slide show on tongue diagnosis and of course exams..  About a half of each class is spent in lab setting where myself and a TA go around and check technique.  I have taken Will's class but don't feel competent to teach Dr. Hammer's system. 
About 10 years ago I tried teaching the 1st year class where students learn tongue and pulse.  I found all they could do is memorize and learn a few simple pulses.  Even  a complex discussion of tongues(obviously much simpler than pulses) was beyond them at that level.  Tongue and pulse needs to be revisited  after students are in clinic and actually working with patients,
Shad Reinstein LAc MAc




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Hi I teach at Bastyr University in Seattle. I teach a 2 credit (22 hrs) advanced tongue and pulse diagnosis class as an elective. 3/8 of the class is TCM ...
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Jul 28, 2007
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The few hours devoted to didactic study of pulse when I was in school were laughable. So I heeded Robert Johns' sage advice to study with Dr. Leon Hammer....
Brandt Stickley
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Jul 30, 2007
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As with most of you, I had virtually no training in pulse diagnosis while in school. At the same time, however, looking back I am not so sure how valuable it...
rossrosen
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Aug 3, 2007
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My experience in Australia since 1991 (regarding pulse diagnostics) has been exactly the same as Ross'. Unfortunately for the new students in Australia, there...
mark phillips
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Aug 3, 2007
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Thanks all our friend for the responses - they are continuing to trickle in. We have 21 responses to on the survey page. We need more power in order to ...
William Morris
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Aug 3, 2007
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Dear Group, I do not believe there was enough pusle training as part of the core curriculum at the college I attended. The only core training happened during...
Joseph adams
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Aug 3, 2007
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Dear Group, I agree with Joe. I attended the same school he did and also do not believe there was enough pusle training as part of the core curriculum. I...
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Aug 3, 2007
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Will, I applaud your initiative and insight. You are leading from the front. God willing we'll actually meet some day in the not-too-distant future. Thank...
Brandt Stickley
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Aug 4, 2007
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Hi, I have taught the Shen-Hammer system of Pulse diagnosis for the last nine years as an advanced seminar. I must say that the classes that benefit the...
Robbee Fian
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Jul 31, 2007
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This is the reason I voted that the current education is "enough". The difficulty is not the learning it is the examples to learn from. Even when I took...
Darby Valley, L.Ac.
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