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Re: [PulseDiagnosis] Question on a pulse picture

Not sure about how to relate the other descriptions of the pulse within my own CM framework but the pulse rate is interesting if only 45bpm. Rate is coordinated by the heart Yang (heart rhythm is coordinated by the heart qi).  the heart within a Five Phase (Wu Xing) context relates to joy.  In this sense, is it the heart Yang - the internal emotional warmth aspect, that is vacuous/deficient and so being reflected in the pulse?

Additionally, if heart Yang is vacuous then the pulse wave will not expand and so the pulse may additionally be felt deep - of course this also relates to the level of depth of the 'illness' ie internal.  Tense (as in increased tension in the arterial wall?) could in this instance relate to the constrained flow of Qi (or hyperactivity of the Liver Yang) - ie Liver related.  From a Five Phase context is this constrained Liver Qi not feeding the Fire phase. 

But, increase arterial tension (ie tense?) could equally indicate pain or Cold - this could confirm the Yang vacuous diagnosis (but Yang vacuity is often accompanied by cold signs and symptoms - not to mention fluid or oedematous type conditions if heart function is being affected).

Restful sleep requires the Shen to be nourished/housed.  Again this relates to the heart and the Blood.  Disturbed sleep results when the Shen isn't housed, Blood isn't suitably nourishing (ie aneamia) or there is emotional constraint agitating the Shen (ie Liver).  (More information is required on the actual pattern of sleep disturbance to understand to which pattern it is relating to). 



Dr Sean Walsh, Ph.D.
Lecturer
College of TCM
Dept Medical and Molecular Biosciences
University of Technology, Sydney



Dr Sean Walsh, Ph.D.
Lecturer
College of TCM
Dept Medical and Molecular Biosciences
University of Technology, Sydney

----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Henryk Wallmark <carlhenryk.wallmark@...>
Date: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:33 pm
Subject: [PulseDiagnosis] Question on a pulse picture
To: PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com

>
> Hi all
>
> I have a question for you regarding the pulse picture of a patient of
> mine..
>
> The rate is about 45 bpm
> LDP is deep, feeble (4), no vibrations
> The entire pulse is tight (4)
>
> The patient does not have any physical symptoms except some sleep
> difficulties (never sleeps through a whole night), and appears to be
> well. Her main complaint is a feeling of not being able to be
> happy, no
> matter what good happens to her. She (and I) do not classify her as
> depressive, but more a "lack of joy" .
>
> Any suggestions regarding the pulse?
>
> BR
> Carl Wallmark
>



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Hi all I have a question for you regarding the pulse picture of a patient of mine.. The rate is about 45 bpm LDP is deep, feeble (4), no vibrations The entire...
Carl Henryk Wallmark
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Aug 31, 2006
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Not sure about how to relate the other descriptions of the pulse within my own CM framework but the pulse rate is interesting if only 45bpm. Rate is...
Sean Walsh
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Sep 1, 2006
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Hi Sean, Good to 'hear' from you. Carl, who are you studying with? I assume it is the current stock of teachers who are certified by Dragon Rises. If that is...
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Sep 2, 2006
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Hi Will and Sean! Many thanks for your answers! Yes, I am following the Shen/Hammer system, studying with Scott Towers and using their terminology. The problem...
Carl Henryk Wallmark
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Carl - I saw a patient like this once before, they worked in a factory with chemical exposures [the pulse had blood unclear (it gets slightly wider and then...
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Hi Carl, Speaking of chemical exposures, a very slow rate is also a finding associated with poisoning (whether through malice or industry or both). Of course...
Brandt Stickley
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Sep 4, 2006
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Hey there Brandt, Thanks for the input and the hand-heart circulatory system/heart analysis. Yes , it is good to see activity on the list. It has an...
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Hi Will, That's a tough question. I favor quality over quantity; Nevertheless an accounting of membership, such as introductions, would be interesting. I...
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