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AP in resuscitation and as a sole therapy for physicians in general medicine?

Hi All, & Ickbal Ahamed Dharulshifa

Ickbal Ahamed Dharulshifa wrote:
> Anybody has any idea about REVIVIFICATION in acupuncture or acupressure.

Key emergency points in acupuncture (AP) / acupressure are GV26, KI01, PC06, CV01 but many other points can help.

GV26 +/- KI01 are used mainly to reverse coma, apnoea, shock, hypotension, haemorrhagic shock. The needle is advanced towards the nasal septum until resistance is met. Needling time usually is 10-30 seconds in those conditions.

If there is concurrent cardiac arrest, it is important to add points for heart, of which PC06 is the best researched. In cardiac arrest, needling may need to continue for up to 30 minutes. That may not be practical on a busy trawler.

BTW, ANY point in highly sensitive areas can be used in an emergency; for example all Jing-Well Points (LU11, LI01, ST45, SP01, etc) can be used. These are "torture points" in comscious subjects, and they can reverse shock also.

In drowning, try the Heimlich manoevre to empty the lungs before acupuncture. See http://www.healthy.net/scr/HealthHint.asp?Id=316

I have no experience of using CV01 (Huiyin), but it has been used in China ro revive people who were clinically "dead" from drownng. Indeed, it is said to be the MAIN point for drowning cases: http://www.yinyanghouse.com/acupoints/cv1.html

If you do not know yinyanghouse and acuxo data [excellent online data], see: http://www.yinyanghouse.com/ and http://www.acuxo.com

Also see: PubMed Medline hits for (acupuncture OR acupoints OR acupoint) AND (resuscitation OR coma OR collapse OR shock OR emergency OR convuls*) at http://tinyurl.com/sy722

For Medline hits on [acupuncture AND (asphyxia* OR anoxia OR suffoc* OR resusc*)] see: http://tinyurl.com/h8ntj

See "A comprehensive acupuncture points database" by: Shmuel Halevi Ph.D at http://www.acumedico.com/acupoints.htm
It lists GV26, CV01, PC09 and KI01 for drowning also.

See Google hits for (acupuncture OR acupoints OR acupoint) AND (resuscitation OR coma) at http://tinyurl.com/pas8y

> I heard that an allopathic physician studied AP and after research he
> treats his patients only through AP and that too through NEUTRALISED OR
> BALANCED AP.

AP is a powerful therapy for very many conditions but it is NOT a panacea. No system of medicine or magic can prevent eventual death; we all must die.

IMO, any physician who attempts to treat every condition that he/she might encounter with AP is doing a grave injustice to medicine, to his/her clients, and to society. I do not believe any professional who claims that one system is the only one necessary. NO one system of medicine / therapy can treat all disease effectively.

That is the fundamental reason who open-minded professionals embrace INTEGRATIVE medicine (a system that combines the best aspects of many different medical systems).

In Chinese populations that use traditional CM, herbal medicine is far more widely used (and important) than AP. I have heard that CHM : AP ratio is circa 80 : 20. Also, many Chinese look MAINLY if not SOLELY to Western medicine.

> [That physician] claims and challenges that he cures Cancers and
> Diabetes only through the AP system without any medicine at all.

Though AP can help patients with cancer and diabetes, I am wary of anyone who makes claims that HE/SHE CURES anything. The old adage, "Doctor, cans't thou heal thyself?", comes to mind.

We (therapists, vets, physicians, etc) CURE NOTHING! The body cures ITSELF through the power of the Creator (G_d) and Nature. The best professionals merely ASSIST the natural process; the worst professionals impede it and the mediocre treat symptomatically to block the appearance of S&Ss, thereby driving frustrated processes to transform to other S&Ss.

> Anybody has any idea about these things, kindly let me know the details
> about it if possible. Thank you. Dr.M.A.Ickbal Ahamed Dharulshifa

IMO, there is no shortcut to skill / knowledge in general medicine. It needs the study of basic medicine as the foundation, on top of which one can add one or more of the complementary methods. Thereafter, one needs a lifetime of study to integrate & develop these methods.

There is but ONE True Medicine: It matters not if medicine is old or new / so long as it can cure. / It matters not if theories come from East or West / so long as they be true. [Jen-Hsou Lin, Taipei]

There is but ONE true Medicine, / the Medicine that heals the wounds, / of cosmos, spirit, psyche, soma, earth & time. / Man & creatures merely come & go / in circles, spirals & in time, / & medicine dreamed by mortal minds / can never foil the longterm dream of God. [Anonymous, after Guinness]

Best regards,
Phil Rogers MRCVS (Vet)







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Dear members, Anybody has any idea about REVIVIFICATION in acupuncture or acupressure. Further I heard that a physician from allopathic system of medicines ...
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Hi All, & Ickbal Ahamed Dharulshifa ... Key emergency points in acupuncture (AP) / acupressure are GV26, KI01, PC06, CV01 but many other points can help. GV26...
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