Hi Will,

With the various models, there is the possibility for different
interpretations. A good reason to study a few.

Generally, when Jim and I talked about knotting, it was about the
movement spinning in place. Finding a person who has cancer or some
tumor-like growth is (obviously) the best way to feel this type of
movement and locate it in the positions.

Martha

In Jim's own words:
The (knotting) movement is described by Li shi zhen as one that misses
a beat at irregular intervals. It is an irregular pulsation indicative
of energy blockages and aggregation of yin such as seen in tumor,
cancer, or blood clots. The Li shi zhen definition, while including the
correct clinical significance, overlooks its shape in the width or
z-dimension. A Normal pulse not only has full extension of length
in the x-dimension and amplitude in the y-dimension but can rotate
clockwise in the z-dimension as it moves forward. A Knotting movement,
on the other hand, rotates through the z-dimension but
does not always move forward as it rotates - it seems to crest,
flatten, or stop. Actually it is this geometry that gives this pulse
its sensation of intermittent quality.

But while it is stopping or flattening at the top there is still some
movement going on inside it. Sometimes when pulse rises at the top of
its arch you can feel a vibration or spinning quality without any
descending motion, like a small tornado on its side— nicknamed
spinners. This spinning quality indicates that the energy is
concentrating and creating the blockage, and can be interpreted in
several ways. If the movement knots irregularly, you can suspect a cyst
or hematoma. But if it knots with each beat, you should suspect cancer.

The yin/yang interpretation is that it is an example of yang reaching
its maximum and turning into yin.
A second, 5-Phase, interpretation is that the strong ascending growth
movement of wood along with spinning quality without any descending
motion is indicative of the increased metabolism of the growing mass of
cells and the lack of control. The pulse indicates that there is some
kind of blockage in the organism—a cyst, a tumor, internal hematoma, or
cancer. If this finding cannot be corroborated by physical testing,
then it indicates that the body is in the process of forming it.


On Dec 31, 2005, at 12:30 PM, wmorris116 wrote:

> Hi Martha -
>
> There is a picture of what Jim called the 'knotting' pulse in the
> files section of pulsediagnosis@yahoogroups.com.
>
> http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MNW2Q9pOAKiSRI1LUR-PZqxK-
> 0UwBCCeCDDEaVjPHxQGjQ2S5qlYEaCauGBXBRaBkIAa2Ma-
> a8aSnFQuzq69/Knotting.bmp
>
> I had many conversations with Jim about this, and the standard term
> is the 'spinning bean.' I hadn't realized it at the time and our
> discussions focused on the fact that the 'knotted' pulse usually
> refers to a slow irregularly irregular pulse.
>
> Will
>